2009 6:34 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking
because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may
be ... the iphone is quite usable. That does
Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking
because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may
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] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking
because unless there is something I am missing
do this with one
hand, which I don?t think I could dowith the IPhone.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
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Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking
because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may
be ... the iphone
the IPhone.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
No one can possibly know without having inside information, whether or not
APple will have a new version out in the next few months. There is a lot of
speculation, but Apple tends to keep things so quiet, that no one knows for
sure.
On Mar 28
, which I don?t think I could dowith the IPhone.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
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Hello Simon and all:
I
Walker
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:05 AM
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This is my point exactly. Know one knows. lol. I wouldn't be shocked if they
did make some changes to the hardware. They usually do. Changes to the
hardware. like, Faster
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 2:05 a.m.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
This is my point exactly. Know one knows. lol. I wouldn't be shocked if
they did make some changes to the hardware. They usually do
the IPhone.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go
Hi:
Yes I had he same experience. Now I only type
with the phone in portrait mode. I find the
landscape mode slows me down considerably.
Cheers,
Kamal
At 05:13 PM 19/07/2009, you wrote:
On Jul 19, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Tasha Raella Chemel wrote:
Just curious -- have people tried using the
Hi,
Late to reply, but I'm a low vision RP user of the iPHone, but I run
it with the screen off to save power. So, I'm low vision, but
there's absolutely no screen to see and I think it's the best device
I've ever not seen.
So, I think your assumption is misplaced. I was in the You've got
19, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it
new but the n eighty two does everything that does
Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the
entire
User interface, a far broader scope
There are a number of SSH terminals for the iPhone but I don't know how
accessible they are. With that you could ssh to your host and vi or
emacs to your heart's content.
CB
Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
sounds like you know more about it than i do. I do have hopes of
traveling to italy and
dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is
so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's
probably
tough to get fixed on it right away
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking because
unless there is something I am
.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I
.
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I will refrain from answering the question pertaining to battery life
because that is a variable thing depending upon usage. I will leave that to
others (smile).
However, in regard to messaging one
but I’m always open to
change.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:39 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I will refrain from
purchasing it
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 11:59 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon,
I'm totally blind
, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
and that I need it to.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Honestly given what I
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Fleischer
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 8:37 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hi:
I'm totally blind and use the Iphone 3gs. I use the mail, the phone,
the notes
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough
July 2009 8:37 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hi:
I'm totally blind and use the Iphone 3gs. I use the mail, the phone,
the notes and the voice recorder. I love the Ipod and reading books
from audible and playing games when sitting around
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Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
about the old wisdom or at least set it aside
: Re: IPhone accessibility
Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it
new but the n eighty two does everything that does
Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the entire
User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI that
can
.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
about the old wisdom or at least
Hi,
Being able to play with my cousin's iPhone, I am totally blind and was
able to do most everything. Still learning how to type on it and I
don't have the ability to use it every time but every time I do type
on it I notice a bit of a speed increase. So yes, while it may be
easier for
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed
does
everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone
Hi Will,
On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it new but the n
eighty two does everything that does
The iPhone has over 60,000 applications available for it, and I can
guarantee you the N82 does not, and what apps it does
that the iphone does and that I need it to.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what
equivalent.
-Original Message-
From: Simon Fogarty [mailto:si...@blinky-net.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:12 PM
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Subject: RE: IPhone accessibility
Thanks again, I'm getting a good feeling about this device, I wish I could
use one
, July 19, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
For anyone it may help, I want to share my experience on the typing
aspect of the IPhone which have gotten really good over a short time.
At first you have to trust what dozens of others have said although it
won't seem like your
since the
virtual keys would be bigger.
- Original Message -
From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
For anyone it may help, I want to share my experience on the typing
aspect
On Jul 19, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Tasha Raella Chemel wrote:
Just curious -- have people tried using the option that allows
you to
use a wider keyboard? i'm assuming that this would be easier since the
virtual keys would be bigger.
Early on, the wider landscape keyboard was what I found to
simon which s sixty phone do you use?
On 18 Jul 2009, at 12:10, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Hi folks,
Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person
Hello Simon,
I'm totally blind and no longer young, but I'm gettng on great with my
iPhone. I can read mail, compose and send mail, check the weather,
surf the Net using Safari, get directions to where I want to go using
either Maps or Navigon, listen to music and audio books, read and
Hello Simon had a good question. Now, I would like to add to it.
Would the totally blind iphone users also tell us which of the
features they are using. I'm especially wanting to hear about emails
or any feature where you have to type. My brother tells me the two
finger system that it
Games? i'm glad to hear of everyone's success. Since my falling out
with sprint over their converting my unlimited data plan to a soft cap
and then cancelling me all together, I've been looking for my next
mobile internet solution. I was thinking the iphone might just do
it. On the 32
I am totally blind and have no trouble using my iPhone.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
Email, t...@optonline.net
Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
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Honest opinion? You can definitely use IPhone because everything you
touch is spoken to you. So there is really no inherent reason why a
totally blind person cannot use it. Whether it's efficient is a
different question. I think this will depend on how good your spatial
imagination is and how
I actually find that using IPhone's keyboard is easier for a blind
person than for sighted guys. The reason is that sighted people have to
look at the keys and, with their fingers covering every key they have to
hit, it becomes a bit of an annoyance. Since we are used to the layout
of the
Max,
Keep in mind that Apple/ATT gang lock you into a monthly data plan. But
this is OK since you are not buying IPhone just to call your grandma;
for that there are other phones on the market.
The only bummer, and correct me if I am wrong, is that you cannot swap
sim cards if you are
Hello Patrick,
On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:36 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
I have a question. Does Navigon cover all of Europe and is there
noise about when it is heading towards North America?
It covers most of Europe apart from Russia and Ukraine, and it's
supposed to be heading for North
Hello Anne:
Thank you for your response.
Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many languages
navagon takes advantage of and in your opinion how well do the
languages function.
Thank you again.
On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Patrick,
On Jul
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this
and start from
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honest opinion? You can definitely use IPhone because everything you
touch is spoken to you. So there is really no inherent reason why a
totally blind person cannot use it. Whether it's efficient
Hi:
I'm totally blind and use the Iphone 3gs. I use the mail, the phone,
the notes and the voice recorder. I love the Ipod and reading books
from audible and playing games when sitting around for a few minutes.
I find it easier to use twitter and facebook with my phone than with
my
Hello Patrick,
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:44 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many
languages navagon takes advantage of and in your opinion how well do
the languages function.
Navigon is available in the languages of the iPhone and also,
p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon,
I'm totally blind and no longer young, but I'm gettng on great with my
iPhone. I can read mail, compose and send mail, check the weather,
surf the Net using Safari, get directions to where I want to go using
.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I am a totally blind user and use the iphone quite a bit for work and play.
It truly offers accessibility out of the box and it offers accessibility to
a wide variety of apps.
I will not rave
Hello Anne and all:
Thank you so much for your responses. You have done it again (smile).
Take good care.
On Jul 18, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Patrick,
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:44 PM, patrickneazer wrote:
Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many
I'm also a totally blind iPhone user. It works great, and is far more
accessible and efficient than MobileSpeak with Windows Mobile, which I
used previously. I recommend joining the VIPhone list at the below
link if you want a really good idea of how access is for the totally
blind. There
Typing takes some getting used to on the iPHone, but it works very
well once you get comfortable with it. I'm texting, Twittering,
emailing, and all the rest just fine.
My most used apps, as far as those which come with the phone, are, in
no particular order:
Text Messaging
Calendar
Email
Actually the link is:
http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone
lol not as intuitive as Josh's. Hth
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Josh de Lioncourt
overl...@lioncourt.com wrote:
And go me! I forgot to include the link to the VIPhone list.
Brilliant, I am. Here it is.
Hello; How dificult was it to set up the first time you used it?
Were you able to transfer your existing address book folders and
such? Glad to hear you like it. Take care, Max
On Jul 18, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Typing takes some getting used to on the iPHone, but it
Matt,
I saw an article titled Nike+, VoiceOver coming to iPhone 3.0? at
ilounge a couple of days ago, but hesitated to pass this on in view of
some previous drawn out discussions. I'll paste in the article, since
the ilounge pages are not the easiest to navigate:
Good afternoon,
I haven't heard of any plans for VO support in iPhone 3.0, due out
later this year. It is possible that it hasn't leaked yet, but y best
gues would be that it won't be until the next update to the iPhone
platform.
HTH,
Everett
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