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   Hehehe. Apple only markets what they believe we want after all. Of 
course they are one step ahead of us and let us think its our idea.


   That said, as long as we have choices its ok. If I was on the move a 
lot I could see using Match. Or if I only cared about new music, then 
Apple Music might work.


   I do want to watch those subscriptions. They could easily add up. 
There are two I will explore. Qello and Netflix


   I don't think 'resistance is futile' applies to me any more for I 
have been assimilated.


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Of course.  With Apple, everything is obvious when you have consumed the 
appropriate mind-bending drugs. :)

Well, with iCloud Match or Apple Music Library, I was thinking that since one 
feature is to show you an online library, you could take advantage of Home 
Sharing when you’re home, but iCloud when away or when you need to download 
some tracks.  Of course, syncing is a pain, and of course the cloud is where 
Apple wants you to go.  And hey, if you have the bandwidth, and if you make 
changes infrequently enough that you won’t notice the synchronisation, why not? 
 I’d prefer not to have to depend on Apple for that, but I’ll concede that 
they’ve got me here; it’s hard to deny the convenience of having access, 
magically, to all my stuff even when iTunes isn’t running.  Even if, honestly, 
I’d prefer Apple make a media server available whereby iOS could download and 
not just stream, and preferably where iTunes did not have to be running, and 
better yet that it work on commodity hardware, this is still a workable 
compromise.

I don’t need bespoke music streaming though.  Only Match.  Match is billed 
annually.  If I wanted streaming, it’s Apple Music, and I wouldn’t get Match 
too because I always keep my music in my primary library without DRM.  If you 
want to stream the latest mind-numbing tripe without actually having to buy it, 
though, you’ll want Apple Music. :)

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-29 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Of course.  With Apple, everything is obvious when you have consumed the 
appropriate mind-bending drugs. :)

Well, with iCloud Match or Apple Music Library, I was thinking that since one 
feature is to show you an online library, you could take advantage of Home 
Sharing when you’re home, but iCloud when away or when you need to download 
some tracks.  Of course, syncing is a pain, and of course the cloud is where 
Apple wants you to go.  And hey, if you have the bandwidth, and if you make 
changes infrequently enough that you won’t notice the synchronisation, why not? 
 I’d prefer not to have to depend on Apple for that, but I’ll concede that 
they’ve got me here; it’s hard to deny the convenience of having access, 
magically, to all my stuff even when iTunes isn’t running.  Even if, honestly, 
I’d prefer Apple make a media server available whereby iOS could download and 
not just stream, and preferably where iTunes did not have to be running, and 
better yet that it work on commodity hardware, this is still a workable 
compromise.

I don’t need bespoke music streaming though.  Only Match.  Match is billed 
annually.  If I wanted streaming, it’s Apple Music, and I wouldn’t get Match 
too because I always keep my music in my primary library without DRM.  If you 
want to stream the latest mind-numbing tripe without actually having to buy it, 
though, you’ll want Apple Music. :)

HTH.

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Re: Home Sharing

   Of course? Really? I never ever would have reached that conclusion. 
(smiles) Syncing something seems to act like a key.


   iTunes Match, does that allow one to listen to content because its 
in the cloud? So it can be accessed anywhere anytime? Crazy to pay Apple 
for that. Maybe I am a Scrooge. But Apple then will know what kind of 
music I like. In that case, let them pay me to share.


   Yes its nice to resolve one more thing. Now to play with Apple TV 
(the 3rd. I may look at the 4th, or wait a while and check out the 5th).


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That checkbox in Preferences is irrelevant to Home Sharing; it only control 
sharing of music to other Macs/Windows/DAAP clients, i.e. iTunes running on a 
computer (but not iOS) or an iOS DAAP app.  The control you want is in File, 
Home Sharing as you know.

Put music on your iOS device, eh?  Of course, because you’d never want to use 
Home Sharing without first syncing or using iCloud Library.  Apple can be 
amazingly obtuse sometimes.  If that’s what it takes, it’s absolutely 
ridiculous.

Now that you know, you could consider doing what Apple wants, syncing something 
over or signing up for iTunes Match (resistance is futile, for me).  You’d get 
a little benefit from having a cloud of your music, or something local.  
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-29 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

That checkbox in Preferences is irrelevant to Home Sharing; it only control 
sharing of music to other Macs/Windows/DAAP clients, i.e. iTunes running on a 
computer (but not iOS) or an iOS DAAP app.  The control you want is in File, 
Home Sharing as you know.

Put music on your iOS device, eh?  Of course, because you’d never want to use 
Home Sharing without first syncing or using iCloud Library.  Apple can be 
amazingly obtuse sometimes.  If that’s what it takes, it’s absolutely 
ridiculous.

Now that you know, you could consider doing what Apple wants, syncing something 
over or signing up for iTunes Match (resistance is futile, for me).  You’d get 
a little benefit from having a cloud of your music, or something local.  
Anyway, I’m glad you’ve found the solution.

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Re: Home Sharing

   Crazy as it sounds, the solution was to actually put some music on 
the iPhone!


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Well I forget the wording of the ad just now, but one of the buttons should be 
something like “Show my music” or some such thing.  The other starts the 
subscription process for Apple Music.  Press the continue to your library 
button and you’ll be in your music.

Pretty slimy behaviour by Apple, that.  If you don’t want Apple Music, go to 
Settings and then Music and turn it off.  It doesn’t get rid of the ad, but it 
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Re: Home Sharing

   Videos work. When I open Videos I see my library under the Shared 
heading.


   I verified that Share entire library is checked in iTunes preferences.

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Well I forget the wording of the ad just now, but one of the buttons should be 
something like “Show my music” or some such thing.  The other starts the 
subscription process for Apple Music.  Press the continue to your library 
button and you’ll be in your music.

Pretty slimy behaviour by Apple, that.  If you don’t want Apple Music, go to 
Settings and then Music and turn it off.  It doesn’t get rid of the ad, but it 
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Re: Home Sharing

   Apple Music is off. On the My Music screen, there are no buttons you 
mention. This is really getting to me now. (smiles) Home Sharing is on, 
I have signed out and back in again. Its like my iPhone does not even 
see anything on my network. It sure ios not seeing the library.


   With Apple Music on, the My Music heading changes to Library / 
Playlists. The Don't miss a beat screen never changes though.


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Well I forget the wording of the ad just now, but one of the buttons should be 
something like “Show my music” or some such thing.  The other starts the 
subscription process for Apple Music.  Press the continue to your library 
button and you’ll be in your music.

Pretty slimy behaviour by Apple, that.  If you don’t want Apple Music, go to 
Settings and then Music and turn it off.  It doesn’t get rid of the ad, but it 
does rearrange the tabs nicer.



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2016-05-29 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Well I forget the wording of the ad just now, but one of the buttons should be 
something like “Show my music” or some such thing.  The other starts the 
subscription process for Apple Music.  Press the continue to your library 
button and you’ll be in your music.

Pretty slimy behaviour by Apple, that.  If you don’t want Apple Music, go to 
Settings and then Music and turn it off.  It doesn’t get rid of the ad, but it 
does rearrange the tabs nicer.

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-28 Thread E.T.


   "Don't miss a beat." How do I dismiss it?

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It’s not an empty library or an ad for Apple Music, is it?  You might have to 
dismiss that.

But definitely, once you’re in a list of your stuff, you should find the 
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2016-05-28 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

It’s not an empty library or an ad for Apple Music, is it?  You might have to 
dismiss that.

But definitely, once you’re in a list of your stuff, you should find the 
category button to switch with.

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Re: Home Sharing

Hi,

It sounds like you have everything set correctly.  The difference at the 
moment, is that I have my Music app showing my iTunes in the Cloud purchases.  
That shouldn't really make a difference, but I'll test things some a little 
later and get back to you.

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On May 28, 2016, at 13:05, E.T.  wrote:

  I must still not have something set correctly. Everything is on the same 
network, same Apple ID and signed in, iTunes on the Mac is open, not using 
firewall. Home Sharing is on on both Mac and iPhone.

  With Music app open, My Music is selected. Swiping from My Account, I get My 
Music heading, Search. a screen talking about iTunes and then My Music tab 
selected.

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> 
> Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just 
> changed the way it's accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your 
> computer and iDevice, then using your iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move 
> your finger to the top of the screen where VO announces "My Account".  Swipe 
> right a number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, Songs, button". 
>  Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home Sharing.  
> Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream content 
> from.  The Category button is kind of centred on the screen closer to the top 
> after the Recently Added section.  It's not particularly intuitive since you 
> need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  Once you locate it 
> though, you're good to go.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support 
> articles also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that 
> it's either an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.
> 
> See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Think you need the remote app for iOS.
>> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
>> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
>> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, 
>> I do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
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2016-05-28 Thread christopher hallsworth

I apologize, but glad all is sorted now.
> On 28 May 2016, at 16:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support 
> articles also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that 
> it's either an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.
> 
> See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Think you need the remote app for iOS.
>> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
>> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
>> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, 
>> I do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-28 Thread E.T.

   I must still not have something set correctly. Everything is on the 
same network, same Apple ID and signed in, iTunes on the Mac is open, 
not using firewall. Home Sharing is on on both Mac and iPhone.


   With Music app open, My Music is selected. Swiping from My Account, 
I get My Music heading, Search. a screen talking about iTunes and then 
My Music tab selected.


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On 5/28/2016 8:42 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just changed the way it's 
accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your computer and iDevice, then using your 
iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move your finger to the top of the screen where VO announces 
"My Account".  Swipe right a number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, 
Songs, button".  Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home Sharing.  
Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream content from.  The Category 
button is kind of centred on the screen closer to the top after the Recently Added section.  It's 
not particularly intuitive since you need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  Once 
you locate it though, you're good to go.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support articles 
also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that it's either 
an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.

See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Think you need the remote app for iOS.

On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:

Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from the 
Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set up for 
Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I do not 
see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-28 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Yep, Tim has it right.  The trick is the categories selector.  Home Sharing 
will appear only when there is a Home Sharing iTunes library, i.e. iTunes is 
running and Home Sharing was switched on.

Now, if Apple would allow the download of material to an iOS device from a home 
share, that would make it all worthwhile.  But alas …

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-28 Thread Donna Goodin

Ah, makes sense.  thanks!
Donna

> On May 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> If you have a large media collection on your Mac that just won't fit on your 
> iPhone, and if the majority of this media is not purchased so not available 
> in iCloud without an Apple Music or iTunes Match subscription, then streaming 
> music from your Mac through your iPhone may be desirable.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 10:20, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why would anyone want to do this?  I 
> mean, if the music on your Mac and your phone are the same, why not just 
> homeshare from your Mac?
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just 
>> changed the way it's accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your 
>> computer and iDevice, then using your iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move 
>> your finger to the top of the screen where VO announces "My Account".  Swipe 
>> right a number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, Songs, 
>> button".  Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home 
>> Sharing.  Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream 
>> content from.  The Category button is kind of centred on the screen closer 
>> to the top after the Recently Added section.  It's not particularly 
>> intuitive since you need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  
>> Once you locate it though, you're good to go.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support 
>> articles also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that 
>> it's either an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.
>> 
>> See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Think you need the remote app for iOS.
>>> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
>>> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
>>> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, 
>>> I do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Home Sharing

Hi Donna,

If you have a large media collection on your Mac that just won't fit on your 
iPhone, and if the majority of this media is not purchased so not available in 
iCloud without an Apple Music or iTunes Match subscription, then streaming 
music from your Mac through your iPhone may be desirable.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 10:20, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why would anyone want to do this?  I 
mean, if the music on your Mac and your phone are the same, why not just 
homeshare from your Mac?
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just 
> changed the way it's accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your 
> computer and iDevice, then using your iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move 
> your finger to the top of the screen where VO announces "My Account".  Swipe 
> right a number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, Songs, button". 
>  Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home Sharing.  
> Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream content 
> from.  The Category button is kind of centred on the screen closer to the top 
> after the Recently Added section.  It's not particularly intuitive since you 
> need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  Once you locate it 
> though, you're good to go.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support 
> articles also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that 
> it's either an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.
> 
> See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Think you need the remote app for iOS.
>> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
>> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
>> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, 
>> I do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
>> 
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2016-05-28 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi all,

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why would anyone want to do this?  I 
mean, if the music on your Mac and your phone are the same, why not just 
homeshare from your Mac?
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just 
> changed the way it's accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your 
> computer and iDevice, then using your iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move 
> your finger to the top of the screen where VO announces "My Account".  Swipe 
> right a number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, Songs, button". 
>  Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home Sharing.  
> Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream content 
> from.  The Category button is kind of centred on the screen closer to the top 
> after the Recently Added section.  It's not particularly intuitive since you 
> need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  Once you locate it 
> though, you're good to go.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support 
> articles also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that 
> it's either an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.
> 
> See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Think you need the remote app for iOS.
>> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
>> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
>> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, 
>> I do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
>> 
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Hi,

Figured it out.  It's not a bug, nor a blocked port issue.  They've just 
changed the way it's accessed.  If Home Sharing is set up correctly on your 
computer and iDevice, then using your iPhone, go to the My Music tab, move your 
finger to the top of the screen where VO announces "My Account".  Swipe right a 
number of times until you hear VO announce "Category, Songs, button".  
Double-tap on this button then swipe right until you hear Home Sharing.  
Double-tap on it then select the iTunes Library you wish to stream content 
from.  The Category button is kind of centred on the screen closer to the top 
after the Recently Added section.  It's not particularly intuitive since you 
need to swipe past some songs before you can find it.  Once you locate it 
though, you're good to go.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 09:15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support articles 
also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that it's either 
an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.

See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Think you need the remote app for iOS.
> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I 
> do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
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Hi,

In the past, we never used to need the Remote app and Apple's support articles 
also don't claim that the Remote app is needed.  I would guess that it's either 
an iOS bug or that there are ports blocked that need open.

See https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202190 and any related links.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 28, 2016, at 00:27, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Think you need the remote app for iOS.
> On 27 May 2016, at 03:01, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
> the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set 
> up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I 
> do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-28 Thread christopher hallsworth

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> do not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-27 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

According to my research, the Shared button should be available within the My 
Music tab of Music on your iPad.  It's different on the iPhone though.  I used 
to see it as a separate tab, but it's been a while since I used it and without 
my real home network to test things on, I'm unable to verify what the support 
articles are saying.  Regarding the Apple TV, note that you normally go to 
Computers, then your specific computer, then you have access to the media.  
this would be similar if the Share button was there for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On May 27, 2016, at 14:23, E.T.  wrote:

  Oh wait, that content is on the iPad itself. Sighs.

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>   An update, Tim. This works fine on the iPad. Am signed in under Home
> Sharing on both.
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I believe that you may be misunderstanding things a little.  The My
>> Music tab simply shows the music either on your device, or the music
>> available in iCloud through your Apple ID.  Normally, there is a
>> Shared tab for accessing music or other media from another device in
>> the Home Sharing group.  I'm using a temporary network right now so
>> can't locate the exact location of the Shared item.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 26, 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing
>> content from the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone
>> which is also set up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and
>> select the My Music tab, I do not see that content. What did I
>> overlook? Thanks.
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-27 Thread E.T.


   Oh wait, that content is on the iPad itself. Sighs.

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   An update, Tim. This works fine on the iPad. Am signed in under Home
Sharing on both.

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On 5/27/2016 10:17 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I believe that you may be misunderstanding things a little.  The My
Music tab simply shows the music either on your device, or the music
available in iCloud through your Apple ID.  Normally, there is a
Shared tab for accessing music or other media from another device in
the Home Sharing group.  I'm using a temporary network right now so
can't locate the exact location of the Shared item.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:

  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing
content from the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone
which is also set up for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and
select the My Music tab, I do not see that content. What did I
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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-27 Thread E.T.

   An update, Tim. This works fine on the iPad. Am signed in under Home 
Sharing on both.


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Hi,

I believe that you may be misunderstanding things a little.  The My Music tab 
simply shows the music either on your device, or the music available in iCloud 
through your Apple ID.  Normally, there is a Shared tab for accessing music or 
other media from another device in the Home Sharing group.  I'm using a 
temporary network right now so can't locate the exact location of the Shared 
item.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:

  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set up 
for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I do 
not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-27 Thread E.T.

   Yes I must be misunderstanding what Home Sharing is. It works on the 
Apple TY, why not the iPhone? I found information on Apple's support 
page that seems to suggest I have it right and that I should see the 
content on the My Music tab in the Music app.


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Hi,

I believe that you may be misunderstanding things a little.  The My Music tab 
simply shows the music either on your device, or the music available in iCloud 
through your Apple ID.  Normally, there is a Shared tab for accessing music or 
other media from another device in the Home Sharing group.  I'm using a 
temporary network right now so can't locate the exact location of the Shared 
item.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:

  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set up 
for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I do 
not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.

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Re: Home Sharing

2016-05-27 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

I believe that you may be misunderstanding things a little.  The My Music tab 
simply shows the music either on your device, or the music available in iCloud 
through your Apple ID.  Normally, there is a Shared tab for accessing music or 
other media from another device in the Home Sharing group.  I'm using a 
temporary network right now so can't locate the exact location of the Shared 
item.

Later...
  
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 26, 2016, at 20:01, E.T.  wrote:

  Have probably missed a step. I have Apple TV setup and sharing content from 
the Mac. I also want to share that content with my iPhone which is also set up 
for Home Sharing. When I open the Music app and select the My Music tab, I do 
not see that content. What did I overlook? Thanks.

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Re: Home Sharing

2014-09-20 Thread Joe Quinn

Yes you do.

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 Do I have to leave iTunes open for home share to work?
 
 
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Re: Home sharing?

2013-06-09 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Mark,

HomeSharing is a method of sharing media between devices using the same Apple 
ID within the same subnet.  Therefore, this HomeSharing is done via ethernet or 
a WIFI connection within that network.  You must first ensure that HomeSharing 
is turned on on each device.  You can confirm this on your iPhone from within 
the Music pane of your Settings, just make sure that it has HomeSharing 
attached to your Apple ID.  On the Mac, it is done from within iTunes itself 
from within the File menu.

From your iDevices, you can access iTunes Libraries on your Mac or Macs to 
play media stored there.  The reverse is not possible as far as I can tell.  
To access media stored on your Mac from your iPhone using HomeSharing, do the 
following:

• Make sure that your Mac is turned on with iTunes open.
• Open the Music app on your iPhone.
• Open the More button in the bottom right corner.
• Navigate until you find the Shared tab and open it.


This is where things are not as accessible as they should be.  VO will read the 
label for your iPhone as My iPhone but will not properly announce the 
HomeSharing items.  I checked with my daughter and it appears that the 
HomeSharing choices are there alphabetically so as you swipe right, you will 
ascend through any HomeSharing choices.  

Now, for ease of explanation, I will assume that only one iTunes Library is 
available, so double-tap on the first item that VO stops at but does not 
announce and wait a few seconds as the Library is loaded.  After it has loaded, 
you will be presented with a list of available playlists.  Double-tap on the 
one you wish to gain access to and then you can play the music from that 
playlist.

The limitations of HomeSharing from the iPhone prospective is that it seems 
that you only have access to the music from your HomeSharing Mac whereas when 
you do this between Macs, all media is sharable.

Regarding your girlfriend's iPhone, the only way that you can sync her device 
with your Mac is if you either set it up from your Mac or if it has never been 
connected to any other Mac thus the initial pairing is performed to your Mac. 
 Now, if all you wish to do is give her access to your iTunes Library on your 
Mac, then you can accomplish this by having her iPHone connect to your 
HomeShare with the same Apple ID as your HomeShare.  This will allow streaming 
of music from your Mac to her iPhone but does not allow for copying of this 
music to her iPhone.

Hope this makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Hi list.
 
 I'm trying very hard to understand home sharing. I have a MacBook Pro and 
 iPhone 5, both sharing in Apple ID, but I cannot get to home share anything 
 over Wi-Fi or USB. Also, my girlfriend's iPhone 4S should be able to sync 
 with My mac and iPhone 5, but I cannot figure out how to do this.
 
 Can someone please walk me through the steps to shut up home sharing? I have 
 home sharing over Wi-Fi turned on on my MacBook. 
 
 Thanks a lot. Hope everyone's weekend is great. :-)
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

2012-02-08 Thread Sean Murphy

Hi,

some NAS devices have a iTunes Server. Qnap does have this. But I haven't used 
it yet. 


This is a interesting thread since it is what I wanted to do myself as well.  I 
want to access all the movies, audiobooks, music, etc via the NAS on the ITv. 
But if I cannot control what is seen by who. Then I might have to look at 
another solution.

Sean 
On 07/02/2012, at 4:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
 something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
 iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
 possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
 and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
 creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
 out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library 
 with settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as 
 her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how 
 I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are 
 saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
 to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
 and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
 users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes 
 Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and 
 you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be 
 golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, 
 you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation except, at the 
 moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  
 You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could 
 interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
 which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
 So, that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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That's the same reason I first figured it out was to keep the kids from
messing up my wife's laptop when they were watching movies and such. I
also did the parental controls stuff to keep them from accidentally
deleting things.

On 2/6/12 6:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Well I answered my own question and thanks a lot gents. I set this up and it
works exactly as I had hoped. In fact the really great side benefit is the
library has only those things my wife and kid want which is the movies. Now we
don't even need the DVD player. :)

On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of
iTunes has it's own library and preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an account I
called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. Then on another Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both
Chris Blouch's Library and Test's Library as choices. You'll want to turn on Show fast
user switching menu in the Preferences Users Groups Login Options. Then you'll have a new user
menu to the right of the clock in the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right a couple times). You should be
able to pick each user in turn there to switch back and forth. As a new account you'll need to turn voiceover on
again along with any other favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.

On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and
both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a
second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the
current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with settings
all its own.

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library
actually active. Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden. I was also
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows. You might also have volume
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from
the same machine. I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

Ricardo,

I thought about that, but here is a question that perhaps you will have an 
answer for. So, I have to use my APple ID to setup the Home Sharing. If I were 
setup a separate iTune library, how do I tell the Apple TV which library to 
use? In particular because the APple TV is connecting to the machine where all 
the media lives. I have not been able to find an answer to this, so all 
thoughts welcome.

THanks,

On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Why not set up another iTunes library just for this purpose?  Its sounds like 
 the easiest way to segregate your content.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
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 I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home Sharing. 
 I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific videos 
 etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these videos so 
 they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any suggestions on how 
 I can just share the content I want instead of everything?
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

Hi Tim,

As I said to Ricardo, this idea crossed my mind, but I am not sure how to tell 
the APple TV once I use my iCloud/iTunes ID which library needs to be used. I 
assume the first order of business it is to simply create the library by 
holding down the option key at startup and setting up the library should be no 
problem. In fact I could put it on the external drive with the video content. 
So, just need to know how to get the APple TV to only see that library and 
especially since it will be on the same machine.
Of course I'm sure this will be a ah moment once I hear the solution. :)

Thanks,

On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 
 I've only been able to restrict things when using the Sharing pane of iTunes 
 Preferences, not when using Home sharing.  The problem is that the Apple TV 2 
 uses Home sharing so I, so far, think the second Library idea is your best 
 option.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-05, at 2:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home Sharing. 
 I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific videos 
 etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these videos so 
 they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any suggestions on how 
 I can just share the content I want instead of everything?
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

2012-02-06 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi,

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to use the same apple ID your using now 
in the new library.  I'm not 100% certain of this but, I would think your Apple 
TV would share with whatever library happens to be active at the time.  I'm 
pretty curious to know how this turns out. lol

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Ricardo,
 
 I thought about that, but here is a question that perhaps you will have an 
 answer for. So, I have to use my APple ID to setup the Home Sharing. If I 
 were setup a separate iTune library, how do I tell the Apple TV which library 
 to use? In particular because the APple TV is connecting to the machine where 
 all the media lives. I have not been able to find an answer to this, so all 
 thoughts welcome.
 
 THanks,
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why not set up another iTunes library just for this purpose?  Its sounds 
 like the easiest way to segregate your content.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 5, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to figure out how I can share specific content via Home 
 Sharing. I do not want to expose my entire music catalog, but only specific 
 videos etc. I have not found a way to do this. The idea is to share these 
 videos so they can be played on the Apple TV. Does anyone have any 
 suggestions on how I can just share the content I want instead of 
 everything?
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

2012-02-06 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
 work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
 cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't 
 gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can 
connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output 
from DVDs and such.


That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with 
two users logged in.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

Hey Tim,

Well for now I scrapped the entire idea and just have to accept that everything 
is exposed. I wish I could use my NAS device for this, but apparently it will 
not work because the APple TV 2nd generation has to authenticate back to a 
running version of iTunes. Apple really needs to do a bit of work on Home 
Sharing in order to ensure a little bit more control. After all you might have 
small children that you would like to have access to some content and not other 
content. Of course you are correct in that I could run a VM and I could avoid 
running windows by instead running Linux and setting up DAAP, but this seems 
like a lot of workaround for no good reason. :)
Of course any other ideas I'm more than happy to hear them.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
 once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
 actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need 
 sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was 
 also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to 
 use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only 
 applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have 
 volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows 
 though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
 work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
 cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea 
 ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
 real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack 
 is actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
 surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work 
 was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in 
 running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could 
 share two libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work 
 as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
 actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need 
 sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was 
 also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to 
 use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only 
 applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have 
 volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as 
 well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows 
 though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing 
 work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I 
 cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea 
 ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same 
Mac and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
creating a second account and then switching to that user without 
logging out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a 
pristine library with settings all its own.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is 
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was 
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running 
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and 
 both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a 
 second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the 
 current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with 
 settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as 
 her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I 
 could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are 
 saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone 
 jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any 
 typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work 
 was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in 
 running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I 
 could share two libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work 
 as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes 
 Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you 
 need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  
 I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be 
 able to use a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it 
 only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might 
 also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this 
 idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active which 
 means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, 
 that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each 
running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of iTunes has it's own library 
and preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an 
account I called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. 
Then on another Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both Chris Blouch's 
Library and Test's Library as choices. You'll want to turn on Show 
fast user switching menu in the Preferences Users  Groups Login 
Options. Then you'll have a new user menu to the right of the clock in 
the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right a couple times). You should be 
able to pick each user in turn there to switch back and forth. As a new 
account you'll need to turn voiceover on again along with any other 
favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.


CB

On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.

On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac and 
both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by creating a 
second account and then switching to that user without logging out of the 
current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library with settings 
all its own.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm done 
buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as her 
and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how I could 
have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are saying is 
you have two different Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you want 
real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The headphone jack is 
actually a digital optical output which you can connect to any typical 
surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.

That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did work was 
setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user logged in running 
iTunes. That instance had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.

CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would work as 
once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes Library 
actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and you need sighted 
assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also 
thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a 
matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it only applies to 
iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume 
restrictions from your ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.

Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you could 
run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running simultaneously from 
the same machine.  I don't particularly care for Windows though, even though I 
have to use it at work sometimes.

I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I suspect 
there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring thing work you 
have to have iTunes running and that library active which means I cannot use my 
library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.

THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

2012-02-06 Thread TIM KILBURN

Hi Scott,
 
 If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
 actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be able 
 to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using Fast User 
 Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users by selecting 
 them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.
 
 Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running a 
 second OS.
 
 Later...

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
 something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
 iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not be 
 possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
 and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
 creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
 out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine library 
 with settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in as 
 her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know how 
 I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you are 
 saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
 to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
 and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
 users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the iTunes 
 Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find now and 
 you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, you'd be 
 golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, 
 you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation except, at the 
 moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  
 You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could 
 interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
 which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
 So, that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a need for 
fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, doughnuts, and 
coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I use my Apple ID, does 
that other user have to be me or can I make it a test user if I wanted?

THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 
 If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
 actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be able 
 to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using Fast User 
 Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users by selecting 
 them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.
 
 Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running a 
 second OS.
 
 Later...
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
 something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
 iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not 
 be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
 and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
 creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
 out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
 library with settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
 as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know 
 how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you 
 are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
 to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
 and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
 users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
 iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
 now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
 you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen 
 Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
 except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie 
 and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP 
 that could interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
 which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
 So, that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: Home Sharing question

I guess that depends on how much content you have tied to that ID. For 
me I would keep it the same.


CB

On 2/6/12 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a 
need for fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, 
doughnuts, and coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I 
use my Apple ID, does that other user have to be me or can I make it a 
test user if I wanted?


THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:


Hi Scott,


If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you 
can actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should 
then be able to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned. 
 When using Fast User Switching, you can just go between the various 
logged in users by selecting them under the Users menu which is 
accessed in the Status menu, VO-M-M.


Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory 
running a second OS.


Later...


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com 
mailto:scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:



Chris,

Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am 
missing something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that 
user and launch iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as 
myself because it would not be possible to effectively have two 
instances of iTUnes running.


On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the 
same Mac and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give 
it a try by creating a second account and then switching to that 
user without logging out of the current user. If you launch iTunes 
you'll find a pristine library with settings all its own.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris,

Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that 
route. I'm done buying computers for a while. :)
So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously 
log in as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, 
I do not know how I could have us both logged into the same 
machine and I think what you are saying is you have two different 
Macs in this scenario?
Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that 
library active. If I could get around that I probably would solve 
my problem. :)


THanks,
On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer 
if you want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get 
you. The headphone jack is actually a digital optical output 
which you can connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get 
the full 5.1 output from DVDs and such.


That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and 
run two instances, but no luck, they share the same preference 
files. What did work was setting up another user on my Mac and 
having that second user logged in running iTunes. That instance 
had it's own library and preferences so I could share two 
libraries from the same machine with two users logged in.


CB

On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Scott,

If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this 
would work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to 
have the iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, 
they're hard to find now and you need sighted assistance to set 
them up, but after that, you'd be golden.  I was also thinking 
about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use 
a matched Library in that situation except, at the moment, it 
only applies to iTunes music files, not movie and TV shows.  You 
might also have volume restrictions from your ISP that could 
interfere with this idea as well.


Not helping much, am I?

Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so 
that you could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two 
Libraries running simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't 
particularly care for Windows though, even though I have to use 
it at work sometimes.


I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


Tim and Ricardo,

I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem 
that I suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this 
Home SHaring thing work you have to have iTunes running and 
that library active which means I cannot use my library. So, 
it amounts to all or nothing. So, that idea ain't gonna work.


THanks,

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

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Re: Home Sharing question

Well I answered my own question and thanks a lot gents. I set this up and it 
works exactly as I had hoped. In fact the really great side benefit is the 
library has only those things my wife and kid want which is the movies. Now we 
don't even need the DVD player. :)

On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 You can be logged into one box multiple times as different users, each 
 running a copy of iTunes. Each instance of iTunes has it's own library and 
 preferences. So I was logged into my laptop both as myself and an account I 
 called Test. Each one ran iTunes and had sharing turned on. Then on another 
 Mac I pulled up iTunes and saw both Chris Blouch's Library and Test's 
 Library as choices. You'll want to turn on Show fast user switching menu in 
 the Preferences Users  Groups Login Options. Then you'll have a new user 
 menu to the right of the clock in the menu bar (VO-M twice and the VO-right 
 a couple times). You should be able to pick each user in turn there to switch 
 back and forth. As a new account you'll need to turn voiceover on again along 
 with any other favorite preference changes since it will all be stock.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 12:03 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am missing 
 something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user and launch 
 iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because it would not 
 be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
 and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
 creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
 out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
 library with settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. I'm 
 done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
 as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not know 
 how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think what you 
 are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that library 
 active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if you 
 want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can connect 
 to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output from DVDs 
 and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with two 
 users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
 iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
 now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
 you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd Gen 
 Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
 except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not movie 
 and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your ISP 
 that could interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that you 
 could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that I 
 suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this Home SHaring 
 thing work you have to have iTunes running and that library active 
 which means I cannot use my library. So, it amounts to all or nothing. 
 So, that idea ain't gonna work.
 
 THanks,
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
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Re: Home Sharing question

2012-02-06 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Scott,

The Username of the user account is immaterial to the Apple ID.  If most of 
your media content is tied to your Apple ID, and in order to use Home sharing 
properly, you'll probably need to use the same Apple ID.  This will not use up 
a computer authorization as that is already handled via the MAC Address of the 
machine.  You may, though, need to make copies of the media you wish in the 
second library which will use up HD space, but I think that's the best option.

Later...

On 2012-02-06, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I guess that depends on how much content you have tied to that ID. For me I 
 would keep it the same.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Ah, now you two gents are just to clever. See I had not really had a need 
 for fast user switching, but now knowing this I can have my cake, doughnuts, 
 and coffee as well. Now the only final question is since I use my Apple ID, 
 does that other user have to be me or can I make it a test user if I wanted?
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:34 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you turn Fast User Switching on in system Preferences, then you can 
 actually have two users logged in at the same time.  You should then be 
 able to run iTunes from both accounts like Chris mentioned.  When using 
 Fast User Switching, you can just go between the various logged in users 
 by selecting them under the Users menu which is accessed in the Status 
 menu, VO-M-M.
 
 Very ingenious idea, much better idea then using up so much memory running 
 a second OS.
 
 Later...
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Yes I understand that is possible, but unfortunately and unless I am 
 missing something here, the issue is I would have to log in as that user 
 and launch iTunes. THis means I could not be logged in as myself because 
 it would not be possible to effectively have two instances of iTUnes 
 running.
 
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I'm saying you can have two different users both logged into the same Mac 
 and both with their own instance of iTunes running. Give it a try by 
 creating a second account and then switching to that user without logging 
 out of the current user. If you launch iTunes you'll find a pristine 
 library with settings all its own.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:45 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Yes a Mini would work in this case, but not looking to go that route. 
 I'm done buying computers for a while. :)
 So, with that said my wife is a user on my Mac. I could obviously log in 
 as her and setup iTunes and that would work great. However, I do not 
 know how I could have us both logged into the same machine and I think 
 what you are saying is you have two different Macs in this scenario?
 Seems to me the problem is that iTunes has to be running and that 
 library active. If I could get around that I probably would solve my 
 problem. :)
 
 THanks,
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 As an aside, an old MacMini would also make a nice media computer if 
 you want real storage and more than what an AppleTV will get you. The 
 headphone jack is actually a digital optical output which you can 
 connect to any typical surround-sound stereo to get the full 5.1 output 
 from DVDs and such.
 
 That said, I did try just duplicating the iTunes app to try and run two 
 instances, but no luck, they share the same preference files. What did 
 work was setting up another user on my Mac and having that second user 
 logged in running iTunes. That instance had it's own library and 
 preferences so I could share two libraries from the same machine with 
 two users logged in.
 
 CB
 
 On 2/6/12 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 
 If you had a 1st Generation Apple TV with the built-in HD, this would 
 work as once the Apple TV is synced, you wouldn't need to have the 
 iTunes Library actually active.  Now, of course, they're hard to find 
 now and you need sighted assistance to set them up, but after that, 
 you'd be golden.  I was also thinking about iTunes Match on the 2nd 
 Gen Apple TV, you'd be able to use a matched Library in that situation 
 except, at the moment, it only applies to iTunes music files, not 
 movie and TV shows.  You might also have volume restrictions from your 
 ISP that could interfere with this idea as well.
 
 Not helping much, am I?
 
 Hmmm, you could stoop to putting Windows on your Mac as well so that 
 you could run Fusion or Parallels, thus having two Libraries running 
 simultaneously from the same machine.  I don't particularly care for 
 Windows though, even though I have to use it at work sometimes.
 
 I'll think some more and let you know if I come up with anything.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-02-06, at 4:34 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Tim and Ricardo,
 
 I figured out how to do this, but sadly I ran into one problem that 
 I suspect there is no solution for. In order to make this

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