Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, no mail goes out, no bounces come back
All right... A sendmail configuration change caught me. in Sendmail 8.12.9, it seems to have moved the stuff in /etc/smrsh to /usr/adm/sm.rsh. Now I need to figure out why sendmail is ignoring the setgid on the script... -- http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD -- The key is realizing the whole world is stupid and being happy anyway http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, no mail goes out, no bounces come back
Now I need to figure out why sendmail is ignoring the setgid on the script... Grrr... You know how it says in the INSTALL file: By default, the value is the list `mailman other mail daemon'. That appears to be wrong. In the Makefile, it only said mailman. -- The universe is not only stranger than we (can) imagine, it's stranger than we CARE to imagine! http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD -- Twist that stump kitty Twist it! Thump! Kitty's dead now He's hamster hors d'oerves http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, no mail goes out, no bounces come back
Hi, Hacksaw wrote: Now I need to figure out why sendmail is ignoring the setgid on the script... Grrr... You know how it says in the INSTALL file: By default, the value is the list `mailman other mail daemon'. That appears to be wrong. In the Makefile, it only said mailman. In the same INSTALL file, just before the quoted sentence: The first value in the list that resolves to an existing group is used. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, no mail goes out, no bounces come back
Ooops. Right, it's configure that sets that up. Duh. Okay, I'll go back under my rock now. -- Sleepy, Dopey, Sneezy, Bashful, Grumpy, Happy, Doc Just in case you'd forgotten... http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
Friends, I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list. Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of mailing lists. Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? Thank you again! Regards, Talora = Esta mensagem pode conter informação confidencial e/ou privilegiada. Se você não for o destinatário ou a pessoa autorizada a receber esta mensagem, não deverá utilizar, copiar, alterar, divulgar a informação nela contida ou tomar qualquer ação baseada nessas informações. Se você recebeu esta mensagem por engano, por favor avise imediatamente o remetente, respondendo o e-mail e em seguida apague-o. Agradecemos sua cooperação. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, change, take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. = -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Investigating Bounces
I have several list owners with large lists. They get a bunch of bounces each time they mail. Occasionally, they get lots more bounces than they expect. Is there any way to get Mailman to save the reason for the bounce? The bounce log contains only the list name, email address and the bounce score. I can infer whether the bounce was hard or soft by whether the score increased by 1.0 or 0.5. There is no way to tell if the bounce was mailbox full or no such user or perhaps horrors my SMTP server was refused because it's become blacklisted somewhere. It's not even possible to tell if the bounce came from the distant SMTP server or my local one. How do others deal with this situation? /edg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Help, let me out of here
First, all my announcements to my new mailman list were bounced back, and I couldn't figure out how to correct it. Then my postings (like this one) to the mailman-users list were also held up. Now, I'm unable to unsubscribe from the mailman-users list. Somebody help me, I'm trapped. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] False Moderator Requests?
Greetings, We have just begun using mailman and are discovering it's mysteries. Please be patient with ignorant questions! I have a dozen lists, none actively used yet, that are set up ready to convert people from our old list processor. This morning each list sent an email from the listhame-bounces address to the listname-owner with the following message: -- The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://domain/mailman/admindb/listname Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. -- When I go to the URL and try to resolve the waiting request I encounter the following message: -- Database Updated... Administrative requests for mailing list: Listname This page contains a summary of the current set of administrative requests requiring your approval for the Listname mailing list. First, you will find the list of pending subscription and unsubscription requests, if any, followed by any postings being held for your approval. For each administrative request, please select the action to take, clicking on the Submit All Data button when finished. More detailed instructions are also available. You can also view the details of all held postings. -- As far as I can see there are NO requests waiting for the moderator and nothing to resolve. What's going on? Thanks in advance for the assistance. - Mike Cullum Director of Infrastructure and Instructional Technologies Northshore School District 3330 Monte Villa Parkway Bothell, WA 98021-7215 Telephone: (425)489-6322 Fax:(425)489-6317 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help, let me out of here
Harv Teitelbaum wrote: First, all my announcements to my new mailman list were bounced back, and I couldn't figure out how to correct it. Then my postings (like this one) to the mailman-users list were also held up. Now, I'm unable to unsubscribe from the mailman-users list. Somebody help me, I'm trapped. From the headers sent in list messages: List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you saying you've tried these things and they don't work, or just that you don't know what to do? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
On 8/23/2004 5:55, Luis Fernando C. Talora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list. Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of mailing lists. It's not autoresponders generally that are the problem...it is poorly written ones which don't know how to avoid sending to list messages. Often it's people using MUA rules or self-written scripts. You can try with content filters, but the creators of these bad autoresponders are endlessly creative. Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? As list owner, you are: unsubscribe the errant user (or if you insist on being more gentle, mark the user as Nomail). Send whatever explanation you feel is appropriate. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote: I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list. Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of mailing lists. Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? Not in advance as far as I know. After the fact, the list admin can always disable delivery to the offending user. Also see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.006.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] False Moderator Requests?
On 8/23/2004 8:21, Mike Cullum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, We have just begun using mailman and are discovering it's mysteries. Please be patient with ignorant questions! I have a dozen lists, none actively used yet, that are set up ready to convert people from our old list processor. This morning each list sent an email from the listhame-bounces address to the listname-owner with the following message: -- The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://domain/mailman/admindb/listname It's a bug in the present version of Mailman. Arrange for each list to have a real message which needs the moderator's attention, and deal with that. Things will be OK after that. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] False Moderator Requests?
Mike Cullum wrote: I have a dozen lists, none actively used yet, that are set up ready to convert people from our old list processor. This morning each list sent an email from the listhame-bounces address to the listname-owner with the following message: -- The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://domain/mailman/admindb/listname Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. -- Visit the FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read article 3.38 -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 07:55, Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote: Friends, I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list. Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of mailing lists. Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? Thank you again! Regards, Talora You could set the moderation (mod) bit, under 'Membership Management' for the offending list member(s) until they turn off their autoreply. There is also a spam filter under 'Privacy options' in the admin web interface. David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
On Aug 23, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote: Friends, I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list. Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of mailing lists. That's not necessarily so. Properly written auto-responders do not pose a threat to mailing lists. Unfortunately the one people use the most (the one in Outlook/OE) is about as broken as they come. Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? You can play around with the spam filtering to catch a lot of these messages. IMHO, it's best to just stop munging the Reply-To. See this page: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html. -Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Changing hostname for a list: solved!
Fellows, The list archives helped me solving the problem. The following link holds the answer I was looking for: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-January/034073.html Hope it helps somebody else in the future. Regards, Talora = Esta mensagem pode conter informação confidencial e/ou privilegiada. Se você não for o destinatário ou a pessoa autorizada a receber esta mensagem, não deverá utilizar, copiar, alterar, divulgar a informação nela contida ou tomar qualquer ação baseada nessas informações. Se você recebeu esta mensagem por engano, por favor avise imediatamente o remetente, respondendo o e-mail e em seguida apague-o. Agradecemos sua cooperação. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, change, take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. = -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] From a computer-numbskull who needs a Rosetta Stone
Hi! I was referred to your site by a nice guy at our ISP who thinks you might be able to help us. So I logged on. Now I know what it feels like when you're in Rome but can't talk like the Romans do (to analogize an old proverb). Now please don't get me wrong -- I think you're site is wonderful. I'm just not sufficiently computer-literate to make heads or tails of it. Anyway, here goes. We have a collection of some 170 essays that we want to send out in the form of e-mail messages, starting with our current e-mail address list, one at a time, weekly. I've attached a generic pdf file (done in PageMaker, but we'll have it converted to HTML when we're ready to go), generic in the sense that it'll be exactly the same in each mailing except that the essay title, the essay itself, and the related quotation will be different. The TO: field should show only the name of the recipient and the FROM: field should be Mens Sana Foundation although the Mens Sana Foundation doesn't have an e-mail address per se -- I do. Please now focus on the bottom of the attached file. The four buttons you see will (obviously) be at the bottom of each e-mail message that'll be sent out during this campaign. The two middle ones are for the purpose of unsubscribing and subscribing, respectively. So not only would you have to send out the e-mails weekly (every Sunday night) if we sign up with you, but you'd also have to delete and add e-mail addresses to our list as people unsubscribe and subscribe. Another thing. Whenever someone subscribes, we would want a message (that we would provide you with) to be automatically sent to him or her. The same would be true for anyone who unsubscribes (a different message, or course). And finally, could every message open with a voice greeting? OK, having given you the specs, more or less, the big question: can we do all the foregoing with Mailman? Also, assuming that the answer is Yes, given that we're a 501(c)(3) (which means there's never any money around here to hire help) and given that my grandchildren know infinitely more about computers and the Internet than I'll ever know but they never have enough time to help out Grandpa, is there someone there who'd be willing to take us under his/her wing all the way through the process until we can do it ourselves without worrying about the outcome? Gratefully, Dr. Shapiro ~~~ Dr. Irving David Shapiro ~ LyceumOnline/Mens Sana Foundation Voice: 510-835-2946 Address: 492 Staten Avenue, #1102, Oakland, CA 94610, USA Web: http://www.menssana.org ~ http://www.menssana.org/books E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] need help in instalation mailman
I want to install mailman 2.1.5 in machine with use o/s solaris 9. I have do what I read in INSTALL file but I have error when I run this : $ make install this is the error message : bash-2.05# make install Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /home/mailman//archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix; \ do \ /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /home/mailman//bin; \ done for f in crontab.in; \ do \ /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 $f /home/mailman//cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled; \ do \ /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /home/mailman//cron; \ done /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ./*.jpg ./*.png /home/mailman//icons for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/home/mailman//$d; \ /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 755 mailman /home/mailman//scripts /opt/sfw/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /home/mailman//data for p in email-2.5.5 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.10 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/home/mailman//pythonlib /opt/sfw/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /home/mailman//pythonlib --install-purelib /home/mailman//pythonlib --install-data /home/mailman//pythonlib); \ done unable to execute /export/builds/s9-release/s9_u4ccd_03/usr/src/tools/gcc: No such file or directory error: command '/export/builds/s9-release/s9_u4ccd_03/usr/src/tools/gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /home/stt04/mailman-2.1.5/misc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall' can somebody help me about this error, thanks for solution. - Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] help with installation
http://www.thebeavers.net (B (B (B (BI am a novice with frontpage and want to install mailman on my site. Do you (Bknow of anyone who can help me with my installation. (B (BThanks, (BCurt Beavers (B770-313-2624 (B404-818-9068 fax (B818-9068 voice-com (B http://www.thebeavers.net/ www.TheBeavers.net (B (B http://www.juiceplusatlanta.com/ (B (B (B (BCurt Beavers$B!|(B1135 Bridgewater Walk, Snellville, GA 30078$B!|(B770-982-1839 (B (B-- (BMailman-Users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users (BMailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py (BSearchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Spaces in Email Addresses
I have and address that is too long. How do I get my address book to take it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It won't let me get past churc. Ruby Shutt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Question
Will this program allow someone to send email to more than 30 people at a time since most ISPs consider spamming with more than 30 people. I have a client who has many clients that he sends email to regarding his business. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] help!!!!!
I am a webmaster for my school and we are migrating from sendmail and minimalist to mailman and exim. We currently are running a daily announcement mailing list with a perl script. there is a long list of members and the perl script sends the message to each one. we want to use mailman but keep the same interphase. Can mailman automatically go out to a text file and sync itself with it. We would use rysnc but the problem is mailman's listing of users are encrypted. please help Its always SUICIDE MISSION this, or SAVE THE WORLD that. No one just stops by to say hi anymore! -Col. Jack O'Neill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Configuring Mailman with Postfix and Postfix Admin
I have just setup Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.8 and have found that the installation does not integrate by default with the postfix admin which stores all users and domains in MySQL. When I send an email to the list I successfully setup, I receive this error: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: test Sent: 22/08/2004 5:01 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 22/08/2004 5:01 PM 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table How might I be able to integrate the mailman python script to filter out the mailman users into my setup? Regards, Nathan. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] False Moderator Requests?
Hello Mike, On Monday, August 23, 2004, You wrote to subject: [Mailman-Users] False Moderator Requests? The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: As far as I can see there are NO requests waiting for the moderator and nothing to resolve. Look at this: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.38 Bye Markus -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kachelonline.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Configuring Mailman with Postfix and Postfix Admin
I have just setup Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.8 and have found that the installation does not integrate by default with the postfix admin which stores all users and domains in MySQL. When I send an email to the list I successfully setup, I receive this error: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: test Sent: 22/08/2004 5:01 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 22/08/2004 5:01 PM 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table How might I be able to integrate the mailman python script to filter out the mailman users into my setup? Regards, Nathan. - Nathaniel Steven Henry Brown t: 604.444.9942 | c: 604.724.6624 Inimit Innovations Inc. | www.inimit.com Purefame Entertainment Corporation | www.purefame.com NSHB - Digital Portfolio | www.nshb.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages
On Aug 23, 2004, at 8:57 AM, Jeff Barger wrote: Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message? You can play around with the spam filtering to catch a lot of these messages. IMHO, it's best to just stop munging the Reply-To. See this page: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html. true. if you're coercing reply-to, you're funnelling all of that traffic onto the list. have fun. As Jeff noted -- well-behaved vacation bots don't cause a problem, because they follow the rules and don't send those messages to lists. The ones that don't -- are broken. And trying to stop them up front will fail, because they don't follow the rules you could use to catch them (because if they do follow the rules, they don't send the messages!). since there are an infinite variation of out of ... or on vacation or away from... or etc ... ways people write those messages, attempting to string-trap them will simply waste endless amounts of your time and energy,a dn still fail (leaving you pissed and frustrated). Here's how I suggest handling it. In your list policy docs, make it clear that it's a person's responsibility to use vacation bots appropriately. my policy is simple: if one shows up on a list, or sending vacation notices to a list admin or the listserver, that address is unsubscribed. Immediately. no warnings, no followups. Just an unsubscribe. it's then the person's responsibiltiy to figure it out and subscribe again if they want. If the same address resubscribes, and then we get MORE vacation notices from it, they're unsubscribed and banned. Users are allowed to make one mistake and fix it. if they don't, they're not welcome. that gives them the responsibility ot fix it, and some motivation to do so. if you don't? they won't. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with installation
On Aug 19, 2004, at 6:13 AM, Curt Beavers wrote: http://www.thebeavers.net I am a novice with frontpage and want to install mailman on my site. Do you know of anyone who can help me with my installation. FrontPage has nothing to do with Mailman. Perhaps you may be asking how to install Mailman on a Windows-based server? See: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.002.htp for information on installing onto Win 2k. -Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] help!!!!!
On Aug 22, 2004, at 7:11 PM, Cameron Tuckerman wrote: I am a webmaster for my school and we are migrating from sendmail and minimalist to mailman and exim. We currently are running a daily announcement mailing list with a perl script. there is a long list of members and the perl script sends the message to each one. we want to use mailman but keep the same interphase. Can mailman automatically go out to a text file and sync itself with it. We would use rysnc but the problem is mailman's listing of users are encrypted. please help You can use a script calling 'sync_members' to sync against a sendmail-style include file. -Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring Mailman with Postfix and Postfix Admin
On Aug 22, 2004, at 11:06 PM, NSHB wrote: I have just setup Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.8 and have found that the installation does not integrate by default with the postfix admin which stores all users and domains in MySQL. When I send an email to the list I successfully setup, I receive this error: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: test Sent: 22/08/2004 5:01 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 22/08/2004 5:01 PM 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table How might I be able to integrate the mailman python script to filter out the mailman users into my setup? I expect you'll need to add the aliases by hand (or modify Mailman to add the aliases to database). -Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help, let me out of here
Yes Mark, I tried those things, and they don't work. I followed the same URL you show below and followed the instructions. Twice. The page that loaded then had the message A confirmation email has been sent... but I never received anything, and am still subscribed. Harv Mark Sapiro wrote: From the headers sent in list messages: List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you saying you've tried these things and they don't work, or just that you don't know what to do? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] need help in instalation mailman
teuku hasbullah wrote: unable to execute /export/builds/s9-release/s9_u4ccd_03/usr/src/tools/gcc: No such file or directory error: command '/export/builds/s9-release/s9_u4ccd_03/usr/src/tools/gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /home/stt04/mailman-2.1.5/misc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall' can somebody help me about this error, thanks for solution. Your gcc compiler isn't where the makefile says it is. The configure script should have set it up. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Investigating Bounces
Ed Greenberg wrote: The bounce log contains only the list name, email address and the bounce score. I can infer whether the bounce was hard or soft by whether the score increased by 1.0 or 0.5. There is no way to tell if the bounce was mailbox full or no such user or perhaps horrors my SMTP server was refused because it's become blacklisted somewhere. It's not even possible to tell if the bounce came from the distant SMTP server or my local one. How do others deal with this situation? I wait until the subscription is disabled at which time Mailman sends me a copy of the bounce message. I know this isn't necessarily the best solution. For example, the other day on one list every (I think) AOL subscriber bounced one message and only one. I'll probably never know why, but I've learned not to obsess about it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] From a computer-numbskull who needs a Rosetta Stone
Dr. Irving David Shapiro wrote: I was referred to your site by a nice guy at our ISP who thinks you might be able to help us. So I logged on. Now I know what it feels like when you're in Rome but can't talk like the Romans do (to analogize an old proverb). ... This list is not generally for people who offer Mailman hosting. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PythonHosting for pointers to organizitions that do. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spaces in Email Addresses
At 10:14 AM -0400 2004-08-20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have and address that is too long. How do I get my address book to take it. Address book? There is no address book in Mailman. Moreover, space characters are not allowed in e-mail addresses. Just what program are you thinking of here? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] domain equivalence
At 12:36 AM -0400 2004-08-22, Toby Butzon wrote: If there's already a good way to work around this issue, fill me in. Subscribe both sets of addresses, then set one of them to NOMAIL. User can post from either address, only one will actually get a copy of all posts to the list. Of course, you have to do this for each and every problematic user, which could be a pain. You might need to do some scripting and make use of the command-line tools, if you want to minimize the amount of work required. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
At 6:27 PM -0400 2004-08-21, Monetary Values wrote: Will this program allow someone to send email to more than 30 people at a time since most ISPs consider spamming with more than 30 people. I have a client who has many clients that he sends email to regarding his business. Mailman will send to as many or as few addresses in a single message as you configure it to use. What your ISP thinks of this is a totally different matter. Most ISPs do not look kindly at their users trying to run mailing list servers, and if you are in that situation you should seriously consider looking to have your mailing list hosted somewhere else. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spaces in Email Addresses
On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 10:03:09PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: Moreover, space characters are not allowed in e-mail addresses. Actually, according to RFC822 (section 3.4.1), spaces are allowed in email addresses: Note: In particular, quoting is NOT permitted within atoms. For example when the local-part of an addr-spec must contain a special character, a quoted string must be used. Therefore, a specification such as: Full\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not legal and must be specified as: Full Name@Domain Moreover, I've encounted several bone-headed sys admins that are assigning email addresses that are of this format. Of course, when I complained to them that they are idiots for choosing such email addresses, they pointed me to RFC822. I still think they are idiots... Later, John -- No one is listening until you make a mistake. Have a great day and don't forget to laugh! http://www.gcfl.net (The Good, Clean Funnies List): Good, clean daily funnies you can safely tell your mom! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] domain equivalence
Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:36 AM -0400 2004-08-22, Toby Butzon wrote: If there's already a good way to work around this issue, fill me in. Subscribe both sets of addresses, then set one of them to NOMAIL. User can post from either address, only one will actually get a copy of all posts to the list. Or just add the second address to the non-members allowed to post filter. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Problem with archives
Hi, I am having troubles with the archives displaying for the month of August. When I run arch in the bin directory everything shows up working great. Do I need to setup a cron job to do this for me or should this automatically work by default. Thanks in advance Jared ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with archives
Jared Nyland wrote: I am having troubles with the archives displaying for the month of August. When I run arch in the bin directory everything shows up working great. Do I need to setup a cron job to do this for me or should this automatically work by default. bin/arch is only intended for importing archives from elsewhere or rebuilding the archive from scratch (--wipe option). It is not normally required for day to day archive maintenance. Presumably at least part of archiving is working since you have a file for bin/arch to work from (listname.mbox/listname.mbox or ?). Also, at this point your listname/2004-August/ directory exists even if it was bin/arch that created it. Do messages (nn.html) get added? Do the author, date, subject and thread .html files get updated? How about the listname/2004-August.txt? Maybe it's a permission issue? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help, let me out of here
Harv Teitelbaum wrote: Yes Mark, I tried those things, and they don't work. I followed the same URL you show below and followed the instructions. Twice. The page that loaded then had the message A confirmation email has been sent... but I never received anything, and am still subscribed. I don't know why you don't receive the confirmation. I think it is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with an envelope sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you follow the same link to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, enter your e-mail and click unsubscribe or edit options and then instead of clicking unsubscribe on the next page, enter your password and click log in, you will be taken to your options page where you can unsubscribe without confirmation. If you don't know your password, you can always request it, and even if you don't request it, it is normally mailed to you on the 1st of each month. If none of this works, try mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and explaining what you've done and maybe the owner will remove you, Mark Sapiro wrote: From the headers sent in list messages: List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you saying you've tried these things and they don't work, or just that you don't know what to do? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
