Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailmanctl -s

2003-12-12 Thread Vivek Khera
WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WY What do most folks do so that Mailman will restart when the system is WY restarted uncleanly? Could having the system's startup script (assuming WY a FreeBSD style or SysV style startup script) default to -s cause any WY major problems? When the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailmanctl -s

2003-12-12 Thread Vivek Khera
WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the system goes down uncleanly, you *want* manual intervention to ensure things are really ok. Otherwise, why bother even having that check in place? WY In theory, perhaps. But in reality, what we want is for Mailman to WY start. WY If the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving existing archive into NNTP server

2003-12-10 Thread Vivek Khera
JC == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC You can use the formail command to resend all the mail in an mbox. JC # To resend the mail in a spool to a users new adress: JC formail -Y -s /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ JC /var/spool/mail/user_name On the CPAN

Re: [Mailman-Users] The causing a problem

2003-12-03 Thread Vivek Khera
SW == Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW The in shell has a special meaning, it would have to be escaped, SW because If you read Business Week, the Tech You column has a comment email address of tech[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just because the unix shell does something with doesn't mean it is

Re: [Mailman-Users] The causing a problem

2003-12-03 Thread Vivek Khera
e == ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: e parameter. Apache / IIS would be significantly confused for sure. 's are e not valid in HTML file names as they specify a part of a parameter list on e the url. If the code isn't URI escaping things when needed, then it is a security breach waiting to

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL and spam reports

2003-11-10 Thread Vivek Khera
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman AOL's Client TOS notification

2003-11-04 Thread Vivek Khera
. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman AOL's Client TOS notification

2003-11-04 Thread Vivek Khera
RK == Ricardo Kustner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RK So my current situation is that my ISP is risking to get blacklisted and RK I can't do anything about it except for shutting down the lists or RK remove block all AOL users :( Yes, they are at risk. You had better find a way to unsubscribe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: AOL issue

2003-10-29 Thread Vivek Khera
. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-24 Thread Vivek Khera
? they'll block those, too. My logs show message flowing just fine from Mailman to AOL at 9:24 am US Eastern Time, with the VERP'd return addresses. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] downloading problems

2003-10-16 Thread Vivek Khera
be surprized if the not authorized came from such a filter. But it is hard to tell based on the exact error text given. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Vivek Khera
site postmaster.info.aol.com, and see what they have to say about blocking and filtering. Check your mail server logs too for some AOL deliveries and see what they say. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications

Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
sitting about for someone to write such a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data). Please contact me offlist if interested. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek

Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID

2003-10-02 Thread Vivek Khera
MS == Michael Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS Are you confused by my question? If so, Mailman has to be told which MTA MS is is being built with, and that was done with make MAIL_GID=65535 install MS clean because in 'make options' postfix had a designation of 65535. No, it does not:

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.3

2003-10-02 Thread Vivek Khera
is released. Almost sounds like freebsd's ports system ;-) Personally, for stuff I don't build from ports with default settings, I just keep notes in a text file on what I did. Documentation... who'd a thunk it? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID

2003-09-30 Thread Vivek Khera
using MAIL_GID=mailman since the aliases and virtual files are owned by mailman, and postfix will do delivery as that user. If you use the FreeBSD port to install Mailman, it will tell you this ;-) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix MAIL_GID

2003-09-30 Thread Vivek Khera
d == dikshie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: d cd /usr/ports/mail/mailman d make options d make MAIL_GID=mailman install clean d after that I got: d RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/local/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) make sure

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance

2003-09-18 Thread Vivek Khera
to multiple MTA's? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman performance

2003-09-18 Thread Vivek Khera
PN == Peter Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you make mailman submit a single message to multiple MTA's? PN You don't. why on earth would you want to do that? load balancing. redundancy. etc. I've got two really fast outbound servers with SSD mail spools. Why not send parts of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using VERP to avoid sobig bounces?

2003-09-12 Thread Vivek Khera
JO == Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JO bounces using a real subscriber as the return address and JO -bounces@ as the recipient. JO Will turning on VERP avoid this headache? Doubtful. The reason the -bounces@ address is the recipient is because it is in people's LookOut! address books as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman v 2.0.13

2003-08-26 Thread Vivek Khera
JM == Joseph Mina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JM I want to use the program mailman to manage my e-mail list. I'm JM using OS X, Jaguar. However, when I attempt to download the file JM via Safari I'm told the download manager can't download the file JM mailman-2.0.13.tgz Perhaps downloading the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python error message...

2003-08-14 Thread Vivek Khera
, but it still appears to work. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber tracking

2003-08-14 Thread Vivek Khera
TM == Todd Morrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TM It seems that a user subscribing via mailman's webform thing gets all TM this info logged in $MAILMANROOT/logs/subscribe. However the vast TM majority of my subscribers subscribe via a custom webform (integrated TM with a catalog request page).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman performance / sends per hour

2003-07-25 Thread Vivek Khera
JS == John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JS With a dedicated Pentium 4 2GHz / 1 GB RAM server / JS 10Mbs, what sort of performance should be possible JS with Mailman? Sends per hour / max subscribers. I think it depends on your MTA and whether you have personalization on in Mailman (which

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating from Lyris to Mailman - Looking forfunctionality and/or workarounds

2003-07-17 Thread Vivek Khera
MF == Miles Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MF We are in the process of migrating from Lyris to Mailman/Sendmail. We MF are very excited about this migration however we loose some Good move! I did this about 7 months ago and never regretted it. MF - Create virtual servers so Overview of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.2 + Apache 2.0.47

2003-07-17 Thread Vivek Khera
DB == Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DB Has anyone got latest release of mailman working with apache2? If so, DB how? And if not, what problems did you have? When will mailman support DB for apache2 be official? Works just fine. Mailman is just a CGI program as far as apache

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

2003-07-16 Thread Vivek Khera
do something like this, but I can't image it being all that hard once you figure out which function needs to do it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

2003-07-16 Thread Vivek Khera
CTS == Customer Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CTS And you cant say that more and more people are NOT getting tired CTS of having the mail they receive all cluttered up with look CTS pretty garbage and less real content. I have a vendor who believes that a 4-point checklist for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

2003-07-16 Thread Vivek Khera
JC == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC That seems like it would accommodate 99% of the situations discussed JC here. The coding for that would also be fairly straightforward. JC Jon in ignorance Carnes Works some/most of the time. Assumes your HTML is correct, for some value of

Re: [Mailman-Users] So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman

2003-07-06 Thread Vivek Khera
S == SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: S Anyone have a better mailing list tool than Mailman that you can S recommend? I'd like to have something that I don't have to babysit so S much. As much as I hate to do it, I might just have to go back to S Majordomo (it has much better documentation,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redirect AOL subscribers

2003-07-02 Thread Vivek Khera
server. The brackets are important! Check the man pages for details. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] FreeBSD 5.1, Python 2.1.3, Mailman 2.1.2 Install

2003-06-16 Thread Vivek Khera
. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] FreeBSD 5.1, Python 2.1.3, Mailman 2.1.2 Install

2003-06-16 Thread Vivek Khera
CA == Christopher Allen [BigFatPipe.Net] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is to use the vipw command. You can also add users using the pw program. CA Actually, editing the /etc/master.passwd then rebuiding the DB is an okay CA route to go. Issuing the command: CA /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb

Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Vivek Khera
DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG According to the README.BSD I used: DG make DIRGETGID=: install DG But make comes back with: Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid. It is less painful to do so. Even though the setgid bit is unnecessary in the BSD file system,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Vivek Khera
DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG At 1:57 PM -0500 4/2/03, Vivek Khera wrote: Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid. DG [snip] ...if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman port -- that's what I do ;-) DG You're the man! In the README.BSD file

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MX Record?

2003-03-31 Thread Vivek Khera
record, but if one exists you *must* honor it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http

Re: [Mailman-Users] RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias

2003-03-18 Thread Vivek Khera
SMA == Shannon M Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SMA That was my first thought, I even went as far as making the perms on thoses file a little lighter for testing. SMA -rw-rw-rw-1 mailman mailman 1176 Mar 18 11:07 aliases SMA -rw-rw-rw-1 mailman mailman 12288 Mar 18 10:48

Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming a list

2003-03-14 Thread Vivek Khera
JF == Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JF Renaming the list would effectively have the MTA bounce all the SPAMS. JF One way I thought of when composing this email would be to leave JF everything on mailman as it is, and simply change the alias. I did this by renaming the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] https for admin pages only question

2003-03-10 Thread Vivek Khera
. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and home pages

2003-03-04 Thread Vivek Khera
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is the default homepage for the virtual server. The closest I've come is displaying listinfo as a binary. I'm running redhat 8, apache 2.0.40, and mailman 2.1.1. RB I would try using an Apache mod_rewrite RewriteRule. For instance: RB

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread Vivek Khera
the postfix 'magic' entry to identify a domain to virtualize in the maps it generates, it is necessary to list them in the virtual_alias_domains variable. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1

2003-02-20 Thread Vivek Khera
RB == Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RB I confess I cheat by doing test runs: I installed MM 2.0.13 with all the RB patches I was using on my production MM 2.0.13 system onto my secondary RB server, added some sample lists and then did a trial upgrade to MM 2.1 RB (initially beta).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Full Personalization to Hotmail?

2003-02-19 Thread Vivek Khera
SW == Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW Don't know if this helps, but Hotmail checks headers, and if the hotmail SW address isn't on the To: or CC: line, it goes to the Trash folder. So nobody having a hotmail.com address can receive this list? Sounds too bizarre to be true.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella List Spam Protection

2003-02-12 Thread Vivek Khera
LaM == Links at Momsview [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LaM I currently have a VERY large ( 100k) announce only list (always LaM moderated) running mailman 2.1 under Postfix. It seems to me if you turn off personalization, turn off VERP, and turn off anything else that would cause individual

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping Out-of-office Messages

2003-02-10 Thread Vivek Khera
WH == Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WH Is there a way, or can somebody recommend a technique, to trap/delete WH Out-of-office messages. They do have a defined syntax (actually several). No, it is generally impossible because there are so many ways to do it, and there are so many bad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions -- HELP

2003-02-07 Thread Vivek Khera
WH == Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WH 1. We're migrating ~1500 users from Lyris - and half of them have digest WH specified. We have two files of subscribers - one with digest subscribers Make sure your lyris export script skips over unsubscribed members... I almost had a fiasco

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with listinfo and advertised in global virtual host setup(I did my homework)

2003-02-04 Thread Vivek Khera
SW == Steve Werby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SW I recently installed Mailman 2.1 on a machine running Apache 1.3.20. SW Mailman is installed in a central location and made available to all virtual SW sites via an Apache ScriptAlias directive. The lists function properly and SW all are

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 / ssl / admin

2003-02-03 Thread Vivek Khera
GS == Gregg Siegfried [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS By turning SSL off, requests can be processed as expected. If you redirect a POST using mod_redirect, you lose the data. The workaround is to capture the POST data from the original request, convert it to a GET and redirect to that. But then

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM doesn't send mail

2003-02-03 Thread Vivek Khera
runner process with mailmanctl? Sounds like you did not. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting mailman to use the same smtp connectionfor messages sent to the same domain

2003-01-31 Thread Vivek Khera
no problems accepting at least 50,000+ individual SMTP transactions per connection. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM

Re: [Mailman-Users] cgi-user / create.py

2003-01-30 Thread Vivek Khera
f == friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: f No, running postalias as user www generates a Permission denied error on the aliases f file. Hence my question: should I change the file ownership, it's permissions or is there a f way to run postalias under the user mailman? I just stepped in,