Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Question about Mailman feature
CHANG,HENRY wrote: There is an option that states preserve message for site admin Until yesterday I was under the impression that this meant the messages in the pending request queue would remain there untouched. But I was testing it out with this option checked and the messages are always deleted from the pending requests page unless you select the defer option. When they specify that a copy is kept for the site administrator do they actually mean that the pending message is deleted from the page but saved on the machine housing the list messages? Yes. Is this only accessible only by those with direct access to the hardware it's stored on and not the list admin/mods? Yes The message is saved as a plain text file with a .msg extention in a directory which by default is $prefix/spam (where $prefix is the home directory of the mailman installation), but it can be any directory (on the mailman installation machine) as defined by the mm_cfg.py SPAM_DIR variable. If you want it to remain in the admindb interface, you need to 'hold' it. Otherwise, you can discard it and forward to the list admin. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RE: Question about Mailman feature
Hello, I had a question about a particular Mailman feature. There is an option that states preserve message for site admin Until yesterday I was under the impression that this meant the messages in the pending request queue would remain there untouched. But I was testing it out with this option checked and the messages are always deleted from the pending requests page unless you select the defer option. When they specify that a copy is kept for the site administrator do they actually mean that the pending message is deleted from the page but saved on the machine housing the list messages? Is this only accessible only by those with direct access to the hardware it's stored on and not the list admin/mods? Hopefully you can clarify things for me a bit. Thank you for your time! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Question about MailMan
Handicapper.net wrote: I have an opt-in mailing list of about 7,500 readers. I need to send e-mails at least weekly and sometimes daily, on occassion more than one in a day. Is there a way your service can help me? How long does it usually take to deliver this number of e-mails? Can can I be assured that the mailing list is kept private? How can users be added and removed? Visit the FAQ wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read article 1.17 for a pointer to places that offer Mailmain list hosting. Other FAQ articles may help with your other questions. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Question about MailMan
At 9:14 PM -0700 2004-08-26, Handicapper.net wrote: I have an opt-in mailing list of about 7,500 readers. I need to send e-mails at least weekly and sometimes daily, on occassion more than one in a day. Is there a way your service can help me? We don't run a service. We're just a bunch of fellow mailing list admins at various sites around the world. If you want a mailman hosting service, please see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.017.htp. How long does it usually take to deliver this number of e-mails? Depends on the size of the list, how many users are at which sites, how fast those sites are, how fast their networks are, how fast your machine is, how fast your network is, if there are any problems in the network between your site and their sites, and a whole host of other issues. Can can I be assured that the mailing list is kept private? That would be up to your provider. How can users be added and removed? There is a web administration interface, but if you've got access to the command-line, there are also tools you can run there. But you should talk to your hosting provider first. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Question about Mailman !!
Erich Fuchs wrote: the only idea i have is to do a parallel installation of Python 2.2.2 - and point MailMan to this installation - but i'm NOT sure about this ! it's also a little dangerous and timecomsuming task (expect 2-3 hours) - and i did't want to break your servers config !!! I am also looking at having to do this, and would love to hear from anyone who has done it. You are correct that updating Python will trash Ensim. My Ensim has two versions of Python (neither is high enough) and I can point things to the other one just fine - so it is possible to have two installations. Now I just need to figure out how to install a second version without messing with the other ones. Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Question about Mailman !!
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:46:12 -0600 Paul H Byerly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erich Fuchs wrote: the only idea i have is to do a parallel installation of Python 2.2.2 - and point MailMan to this installation - but i'm NOT sure about this ! it's also a little dangerous and timecomsuming task (expect 2-3 hours) - and i did't want to break your servers config !!! I am also looking at having to do this, and would love to hear from anyone who has done it. You are correct that updating Python will trash Ensim. My Ensim has two versions of Python (neither is high enough) and I can point things to the other one just fine - so it is possible to have two installations. Now I just need to figure out how to install a second version without messing with the other ones. Paul It's been so long since I installed a new version of Python, so I don't remember it all. However, it seems that in the ./config there's an option to place the new installation somewhere other than over the old installation. Have you tried reading the Build Instructions in the README file? Reading instructions is good. -- Raquel The greatest and noblest pleasure which we have in this world is to discover new truths, and the next is to shake off old prejudices. --Frederick II, the Great -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Question about Mailman !!
Barry wrote: I don't know anything about Ensim, but if it's even remotely Unix-y, Ensim is software that is used to make a server do virtual hosting. There are both Linux and Windows versions. Mine, and many, run with Red Hat Linux 7.x. you should be able to do an altinstall of Python 2.2.2 in /usr/local. E.g.: ./configure make make altinstall I love this list! Never seen an altinstall mentioned, but they I'm still crawling. Apparently this does the same thing as make install except it does not create (or replace) a hard link of the new version to python. Doing some searching on this I'm seeing reference to using the --prefix option with configure to name the directory that it will be installed to. Is this necessary, or is it only for installing the files in a directory other than the current one? Thanks for any enlightenment! Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Question about Mailman !!
PHB == Paul H Byerly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PHB Barry wrote: I don't know anything about Ensim, but if it's even remotely Unix-y, PHB Ensim is software that is used to make a server do PHB virtual hosting. There are both Linux and Windows versions. PHB Mine, and many, run with Red Hat Linux 7.x. Thanks for the info! you should be able to do an altinstall of Python 2.2.2 in /usr/local. E.g.: ./configure make make altinstall PHB I love this list! Never seen an altinstall mentioned, PHB but they I'm still crawling. Apparently this does the same PHB thing as make install except it does not create (or replace) PHB a hard link of the new version to python. Exactly. It lets you have multiple versions of Python living in the same directory. Do a regular make install for you main one, and altinstalls for all your alternatives. You don't wanna know how many are in my /usr/local/bin! :) PHB Doing some searching on this I'm seeing reference to using PHB the --prefix option with configure to name the directory that PHB it will be installed to. Is this necessary, or is it only PHB for installing the files in a directory other than the PHB current one? --prefix on either Python's or Mailman's configure just says to put *everything* under the specified directory. By default Python's prefix is /usr/local while Mailman's is /usr/local/mailman. Using --prefix is a good way to make sure that Python is completely distinct and separate from any other, so it's another way to go if you want. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
