Re: [mailop] [E] $GOOG

2022-04-18 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 15/04/2022 17:55 Graeme Fowler via mailop ha scritto: > > Obviously we’ve had a great deal of discussion of OVH over the years, most of > which wasn’t favourable. YMMV, obviously. OVH is the second biggest hoster in Europe. Unless we want to assume that Europe is a continent of

Re: [mailop] [E] $GOOG

2022-04-18 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 15/04/2022 16:43 Laura Atkins via mailop ha scritto: > > > > All of the complaints I’ve seen about google track back to: the person was > either actively sending spam (possibly unknowingly, but that doesn’t exactly > reflect well on the sender) or they’re using a free service that is

[mailop] When RBLs go bad, now with sexist attacks in public

2021-03-02 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
Hello, I wish we could stop discussing about UCEPROTECT, but I just discovered that they recently published on their website a disgusting "ad feminam" attack against a person that dared to complain about their methods. It is an incredibly sexist piece in which this person is publicly blamed

[mailop] UCEPROTECT and Gmail (was Re: When RBLs go bad)

2021-02-16 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 14/02/2021 07:42 André Peters via mailop ha > scritto: > > > Hi, > > Have you guys already read this? > https://blog.sucuri.net/2021/02/uceprotect-when-rbls-go-bad.html > > I have seen the discussion and found it fits. Will you remove UCL from > your servers? > I am

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-21 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 21/01/2021 15:03 Jim Popovitch via mailop ha scritto: > > Neither of those situations describe the reality of what uceprotect is > doing. They are saying that if you choose to operate in a shady area, The problem here is that they are defining on their own the criteria to identify a

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-20 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 20/01/2021 13:29 Hetzner Blacklist via mailop ha > scritto: > > Looking back on my infrequent checking of UCEPROTECT, that means OVH > will probably be permanently on level 3. > > In fact, a number of other large, well-known providers are now listed on > level 3 as well. I host my

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 23/12/2020 13:13 Laura Atkins via mailop ha > scritto: > > > The discussion is simpler than that. Sendgrid owns their network. > Sendgrid gets to make the rules about what is allowed on their network. > > Spam isn’t illegal, yet they prohibit it. > > Gambling related

Re: [mailop] Gosh, I love sendgrid

2020-12-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 22/12/2020 21:56 Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop ha > scritto: > > > There are clear, existing, unambiguous laws against this, and nobody > questions any entity who not only declines to facilitate this but actively > purges it from their platforms. > > Where I have a problem

Re: [mailop] BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 23/07/2020 03:24 Matt Corallo via mailop ha scritto: > > > The standard appears to provide no protection whatsoever, but the specific > implementation announced by Google relies on > CAs to "authenticate" the domains' logo. Seems like there should be a > standard for that, too. It's

Re: [mailop] Is DNS-over-HTTPS bad? Sure. (was: Happy Holidays Everyone!)

2020-07-06 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 06/07/2020 09:41 Andrew C Aitchison via mailop ha > scritto: > > I have mixed feelings about Mozilla defaulting the world (or the USA) to DoH > (technically I don't like it, but I sympathize with the philosophical > idea) but that doesn't explain why DoH itself is a bad idea. DoH is not

Re: [mailop] Messages from small personal SMTP server being marked as junk by Google

2020-02-03 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 03/02/2020 06:03 Tom Wong-Cornall via mailop ha > scritto: > > In the end I gave up and used a (hopefully reputable) smart host to > handle delivery, as you can probably tell from my headers. This doesn't > sit comfortably with me however; if nothing else, my engineer's > efficiency

Re: [mailop] BIMI

2019-12-10 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 06/12/2019 17:14 John Levine via mailop ha scritto: > > The BIMI group claims senders will have to validate their logos and > get a certificate before recipient systems will display them. This > always seemed to me the weakest part of the plan. It's easy enough to > do for Paypal and a

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 23 ottobre 2019 08:51 Sébastien Riccio via mailop ha > scritto: > > > Hi, > > We also have a lot of trouble with mails being sent to the junk folder on > Microsoft hosted accounts. > We have no problems with gmail or yahoo. > > There is no apparent reason for this, we constantly

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-14 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
Il 12 ottobre 2019 01:31 Brandon Long via mailop ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 2:09 AM Chris Woods via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: Has the prevailing method of deciding worthiness now

Re: [mailop] DANE validation

2019-07-12 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
At this point, for mail sending, Gmail does not support DANE, though we do support STS and TLSRPT.  I imagine DANE is somewhere on their TODO list, but couldn't give any time frame for that. It is supported by a bunch of

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

2019-04-24 Thread Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> Il 24 aprile 2019 alle 14.29 Mike Hammett ha scritto: > > I think a lot of the thought is that "everyone" uses Comcast, Google, > Microsoft, Yahoo, etc. for the client side and the other side of the coin is > Mailgun, SendGrid, Mandrill, SES, etc. The concept of there being a server >