Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2017-02-15 at 22:40 -, John Levine wrote: > I like DO for web hosting and their provisioning is great, but I > wouldn't try to send mail from DO. DO block port 25 outbound on IPv6. So I wouldn't, either. (I was going to put a monitoring box on a new DO VPS, away from my regular colo, but

Re: [mailop] (weird) Gmail deliverability issues

2017-02-15 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
Without specifics (domains, IPs, the sessionid you 'd out), I'm not able to help. Brandon On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > So I have a bunch of domains (about 20) that I use for mail. I run my own > mail server, and keep the OS and the

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread John Levine
>One thing I'm wondering: If deliverability with Hetzner is already bad is >there any chance to deliver anything at all from a OVH/DigitalOcean/AWS ip? >(just to get a sense of how problematic Hetzner is) OVH used to be hopeless but after some firm whacks they have started to clean up, and their

[mailop] (weird) Gmail deliverability issues

2017-02-15 Thread Aleksandr Miroslav
So I have a bunch of domains (about 20) that I use for mail. I run my own mail server, and keep the OS and the MTA software up to date. All of my domains have SPF and DKIM setup properly. None of my domains send spam. Most of my domains are used for small mailing lists of various sorts. I host

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
The test was for the rbl DSN rfc clueless, they were attempting to test whether we accepted mail with an empty mail from, ie bounces, which of course we do... but their test is clueless. Brandon On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:59:36 +, Phil Pennock said: > I believe Brandon's point is that this is a probe _of_ Gmail, not _by_ > Gmail, and the service purporting to be testing RFC conformance is > instead doing a very old-style message with no headers at all. Right. The test sends something

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Al Iverson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:46 PM, G. Miliotis wrote: > On 15/2/2017 19:06, Al Iverson wrote: >> >> Yes, that is what most of us who are paid to send email do. Email >> Service Providers (ESPs) help their clients monitor this sort of >> thing, by signing up for SNDS,

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread G. Miliotis
On 15/2/2017 19:06, Al Iverson wrote: Yes, that is what most of us who are paid to send email do. Email Service Providers (ESPs) help their clients monitor this sort of thing, by signing up for SNDS, using seedlist testing from companies like Return Path and 250OK, monitor for blacklistings, and

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread G. Miliotis
On 15/2/2017 18:46, Laura Atkins wrote: The statement I was replying to said MS should announce what they’re blocking. I pointed out that MS does provide that information to the appropriate parties. The sign up process is about ownership and confirming that the person asking for the data has

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 17-02-15 08:45 AM, Felix Schwarz via mailop wrote: Am 15.02.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins: If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list of all the IPs that were currently blocked. They do that already (as Hetzner customers can see when registering a

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > There's what, 3 major providers? Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo. > > That's not a lot to sign up for. baidu, web.de, gmx.de, t-online.de, the french players, . There's a lot out there... -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 3 years to go !

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Laura Atkins
> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Mi den 15. Feb 2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins: >> >>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:51 AM, G. Miliotis wrote: >>> >>> On 15/2/2017

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

2017-02-15 Thread Felix Schwarz via mailop
Am 15.02.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Laura Atkins: > If Hertzner cared they could sign up for the MS SNDS program and see a list of > all the IPs that were currently blocked. They do that already (as Hetzner customers can see when registering a Hetzner IP in SNDS). AFAIK they also monitor IP

Re: [mailop] Enforcement of RFCs [was: GoDaddy Email admins' in the house?]

2017-02-15 Thread Brian Reichert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 05:59:36AM +, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2017-02-15 at 00:24 -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > So your post un-wordraps into: > > > DATA > > 354 Go ahead d7si5125389wjc.145 - gsmtp > > Testing. . > > 550-5.7.1 [2001:4830:11aa:106:c23f:d5ff:fe67:5ce1 11] Our

Re: [mailop] Alice delivery issues

2017-02-15 Thread Lindani Tshabangu via mailop
I have not heard back from a human there, but I tried a contact we had with their associated domain @it.telecomitalia.it. He, unfortunately has left and said he had forwarded the message to "other people" *Kind regards* *Lindani Tshabangu* Deliverability EMEA Groupon