Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

In article <058514aa25614fc0923be875ddc8d...@ex1.obs.local> you write: >It would really help to have for example an interface for mail system admins >you can sign-up to, to diagnose >what triggered this. >Some program you can subscribe to, filling some agreement or I don't know what. But the

Re: [mailop] All mx?.hotmail.com down?

Those mx[1..4].hotmail.com IPs have been deprecated for a couple of years now I think. I forwarded this on to the team that owns the DNS records for msidentity.com to be addressed. -Original Message- From: mailop On Behalf Of Benoit Panizzon Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 12:40 AM To:

Re: [mailop] Error message from Hotmail

Making inquiries. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop On Behalf Of Christopher Vitulski via mailop Sent:

Re: [mailop] Error message from Hotmail

Hello Mail op community, We are still seeing similar issues as mentioned above. It has started to go away, and then has picked back up again, most recently it started to accumulate more bounces starting Monday April 22 and continues to grow today. It seems we see the bulk of these bounces from

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

I did that a week ago and they didn't respond. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:42 AM Udeme Ukutt wrote: > Josiah - send an email to supp...@fbl.zoho.com with your domain(s), IPs, > and FBL email address. They could give you some direction. > > Udeme > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:11 PM Josiah Ritchie

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

Josiah - send an email to supp...@fbl.zoho.com with your domain(s), IPs, and FBL email address. They could give you some direction. Udeme On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:11 PM Josiah Ritchie < jritc...@churchcommunitybuilder.com> wrote: > I have "Domain Status: Unconfirmed" because I can't confirm my

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

I have "Domain Status: Unconfirmed" because I can't confirm my ownership because I don't get the confirmation email. My inbound mail logs show nothing in the logs for both the strings "postmaster" and "zoho". There is no active filtering against the postmaster@ address I requested this come to.

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 08:38 -0600, Josiah Ritchie wrote: > I'm trying to sign up for the Zoho feedback loop and am finding that I > never get a confirmation email so I can move forward. I know Yahoo is > also having problems, checked again this morning and seems to be still be > a thing, but I

Re: [mailop] Fwd: Re: The utility of spam folders

Not sure what freemail provider that would be. When we showed ads on messages, it was only ever shown when the user was reading it. Now, the only ads are in the thread list, but still require a user to view the ui. The storage for inactive users hasn't really been an issue yet, as a percentage

Re: [mailop] Gmail contact or ideas

Thank you! I'll reply off thread. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 12:10 PM Brandon Long wrote: > Happy to look, no guarantees > > Brandon > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 3:33 AM Jenny Nespola wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Does anyone have a Gmail contact that I could discuss current issues with >> (this

Re: [mailop] Gmail contact or ideas

Happy to look, no guarantees Brandon On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 3:33 AM Jenny Nespola wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone have a Gmail contact that I could discuss current issues with > (this is my hail Mary pass as I know we need to stick to tickering)? > Without getting into the gory details (I'm

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 4:27 AM Laura Atkins wrote: > > On 23 Apr 2019, at 06:26, Brandon Long via mailop > wrote: > > > > The second is that it is impractical to ascertain whether a message is >> > spam or not during delivery time in all cases. A decade ago, the reason >> > was because we had

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest Zoho and Yahoo were related. I have not been able to confirm any sort of filtering or blocking with this email coming inbound to our postmaster account. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 8:51 AM Kent McGovern wrote: > To my knowledge Yahoo and Zoho have nothing to do with

Re: [mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

To my knowledge Yahoo and Zoho have nothing to do with one another, this sounds like an issue with the confirmation email being blocked or filtered. Kent McGovern On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:40 AM Josiah Ritchie < jritc...@churchcommunitybuilder.com> wrote: > I'm trying to sign up for the Zoho

[mailop] Zoho Feedback Loop

I'm trying to sign up for the Zoho feedback loop and am finding that I never get a confirmation email so I can move forward. I know Yahoo is also having problems, checked again this morning and seems to be still be a thing, but I haven't heard that Zoho was. I tried contacting their support email

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

On 23 Apr 2019, at 1:26, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: and also unfortunately, enough people now think of email as unreliable, As they always should and always should have, at least for email crossing administrative borders. The major root causes of unreliability in email have evolved over

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 06:26, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > The second is that it is impractical to ascertain whether a message is > > spam or not during delivery time in all cases. A decade ago, the reason > > was because we had to OCR images contained in power point presentation > > spam,

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

On 23/4/2019 08:26, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: and also unfortunately, enough people now think of email as unreliable, I wonder why that is. --GM ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

Fascinating discussion the last few days. > Yes, as our spam filtering has improved, that does reduce the amount that > user's spend in their spam > folder, and we get less signal. No one said this was easy. My own experience suggests that there’s possibly a sweet spot in terms of getting

[mailop] Gmail contact or ideas

Hi All, Does anyone have a Gmail contact that I could discuss current issues with (this is my hail Mary pass as I know we need to stick to tickering)? Without getting into the gory details (I'm happy to off thread if needed), we migrated 60 to 70 clients to new MTAs, but three of them are just in

Re: [mailop] Fwd: Re: The utility of spam folders

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 4/22/19 6:19 PM, Dave Warren wrote: I strongly disagree here, the freemail providers have a product (your eyeballs) to sell to their customers (the advertisers). Their customers aren't particularly interested in advertising on a service without

[mailop] All mx?.hotmail.com down?

Hi List A customer told us he is getting timeouts trying to send emails to a recipient under @accountprotection.microsoft.com. It looks like he is trying to reply some sort of challenge response system which I guess is not meant to be used by email. mail.msa.msidentity.com mail is handled by 5

[mailop] Fwd: Re: The utility of spam folders

On 4/22/19 6:19 PM, Dave Warren wrote: I strongly disagree here, the freemail providers have a product (your eyeballs) to sell to their customers (the advertisers). Their customers aren't particularly interested in advertising on a service without users. Yes and no. By not closing inactive