Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-05-12 at 16:52:38 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 May 2023 13:52:38 -0700) Brandon Long via mailop is rumored to have said: On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:54 AM Bill Cole via mailop wrote: On 2023-05-12 at 09:40:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 May 2023 13:40:14 +) Paul Gregg via mailop is rumored to have

Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:54 AM Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > On 2023-05-12 at 09:40:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 May 2023 13:40:14 +) > Paul Gregg via mailop > is rumored to have said: > > > I suspect with verp/bounce addressing widely in use now, 64 octets > > just > > isn't enough these days. >

[mailop] GMX/Mail.com contact?

2023-05-12 Thread Mike Hillyer via mailop
Anyone have a contact? I have someone with an accountant.com address trying to run a check scam on me. Mike Hillyer ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Bill Cole via mailop said: >On 2023-05-12 at 09:40:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 May 2023 13:40:14 +) >Paul Gregg via mailop >is rumored to have said: > >> I suspect with verp/bounce addressing widely in use now, 64 octets >> just isn't enough these days. > >Hogwash. 64 mail-safe

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread Mark Alley via mailop
Here's a few prominent services I know of sending from this 54.224.0.0/11 subnet. (Whether or not these are spam in your eyes is up to you, I'm just noting actual legitimate senders.) * Amazon Business (no-re...@amazon.com) * Amazon DE (donotre...@amazon.de) * Adobe

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread Mary via mailop
not yet :D On Fri, 12 May 2023 19:11:53 +0100 John Devine via mailop wrote: > Indeed so I think………. > > I would so like to block as you have, any legit mail lost yet? > > JD ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
To be fair it sounds like they're providing fine customer service, their customer is just trash. On 2023-05-12 12:39, Mary via mailop wrote: No they haven't, but I don't expect them to do so. Don't they have the same zero-customer-support policy like every other major tech company? On

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread John Devine via mailop
Indeed so I think………. I would so like to block as you have, any legit mail lost yet? JD > On 12 May 2023, at 18:39, Mary via mailop wrote: > > > No they haven't, but I don't expect them to do so. > > Don't they have the same zero-customer-support policy like every other major > tech

Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 12. mája 2023 13:40:14 UTC používateľ Paul Gregg via mailop napísal: >4.5.3.1. Size Limits and Minimums When you read RFC, you MUST read all, not only interesting parts. Yes, sometime it is hard, but notice the sentence in this section: Every implementation MUST be able to receive

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread Mary via mailop
No they haven't, but I don't expect them to do so. Don't they have the same zero-customer-support policy like every other major tech company? On Fri, 12 May 2023 17:40:18 +0100 John Devine via mailop wrote: > Have Amazon commented at all? > > JD

Re: [mailop] Suggestions for Researching Gmail/Google Workspace Issue

2023-05-12 Thread Jenny Nespola via mailop
Great question, yes authentication is all set and they are at (checking) a quarantine policy. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 12:30 PM Julian Bradfield via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On 2023-05-12, Jenny Nespola via mailop wrote: > > Hope you are well. I was wondering what else I may be

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread John Devine via mailop
Have Amazon commented at all? JD > On 12 May 2023, at 17:28, Mary via mailop wrote: > > > Because all amazon spam seems to originate from within that block. > > The decision to block larger blocks than /24 is based on: > > - faster and more efficient to block at the firewall level > - /24

Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Steve Atkins via mailop
> On 12 May 2023, at 14:40, Paul Gregg via mailop wrote: > > I'd like to start a discussion on folks opinions(*) on enforcing > Envelope Sender/Recipient local-part length limits. > > *opinions - because no mail operator seems to agree what it should be. > > For context, RFC5321 defines

Re: [mailop] Amazon please stop your outgoing spam

2023-05-12 Thread Mary via mailop
Because all amazon spam seems to originate from within that block. The decision to block larger blocks than /24 is based on: - faster and more efficient to block at the firewall level - /24 block are just not enough these days - better than doing cpu intensive content filtering - covers all

Re: [mailop] Suggestions for Researching Gmail/Google Workspace Issue

2023-05-12 Thread Julian Bradfield via mailop
On 2023-05-12, Jenny Nespola via mailop wrote: > Hope you are well. I was wondering what else I may be missing when > researching a Gmail/Workspace placement issue. I have a client that [ snip ] > Once you engage, the mail will stay in the inbox or if you pull from spam, > but anyone new (with

Re: [mailop] Suggestions for Researching Gmail/Google Workspace Issue

2023-05-12 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 12.05.2023 o godz. 11:14:25 Jenny Nespola via mailop pisze: > > Hope you are well. I was wondering what else I may be missing when > researching a Gmail/Workspace placement issue. I have a client that > rebranded with a new domain about 4 months ago (maybe it's 5 now) and from > day 1 hit

Re: [mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-05-12 at 09:40:14 UTC-0400 (Fri, 12 May 2023 13:40:14 +) Paul Gregg via mailop is rumored to have said: I suspect with verp/bounce addressing widely in use now, 64 octets just isn't enough these days. Hogwash. 64 mail-safe octets is adequate for every domain to give a unique

[mailop] Suggestions for Researching Gmail/Google Workspace Issue

2023-05-12 Thread Jenny Nespola via mailop
Hi all! Hope you are well. I was wondering what else I may be missing when researching a Gmail/Workspace placement issue. I have a client that rebranded with a new domain about 4 months ago (maybe it's 5 now) and from day 1 hit the spam folder. Their IP looks to have changed as well (but using

[mailop] Thoughts on envelope address local-part length limits

2023-05-12 Thread Paul Gregg via mailop
I'd like to start a discussion on folks opinions(*) on enforcing Envelope Sender/Recipient local-part length limits. *opinions - because no mail operator seems to agree what it should be. For context, RFC5321 defines local-part (the bit of an envelope address to the left of the @ in an email