in order to get closer to A?
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friend of mine) might know
Welsh?
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I want to read one or two up to date books on the general history of Rome
that might help to illuminate my enjoyment of Virgil.
I would be grateful to subscribers for any suggestions or recommendations.
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not exactly the right age
group).
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into Dido's mouth (I tried to find such and failed)?
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if this is so or if you
have, indeed, forgotten something.
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of this alternative version of the founding
of Rome.
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of the great Roman writers. I am sure they did a bit
more than compose for 'oaten pipes'.
It is just that I would like to get some sort of mental picture of what sort
of sound Amaryllis, for example, in Eclogue I might have been hearing.
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sounded like? I ask partly because I heard
someone on the radio today playing a Stone Age bone whistle and it made a
very acceptable sound.
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to find any specific references via the normal
searches and I should be grateful if anyone could point me in the right
direction if he did indeed mention the topic.
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This one isn't quite so obscure. I believe that the i spelling
came to be in
the 5th century AD (http://www.bartleby.com/65/ve/Vergil.html),
when the Aeneid
was used as a sort of magic 8-ball. People would randomly open
the Aeneid and
interpret the first line upon which their eyes
identifications.
See:
http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri1996/nov1996/gr_103134_1996.html
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at what these words might have meant?
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The full text is at:
http://www.remue.net/cont/prigent02.html
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There may be a clue here, though probably just coincidence. Cézanne was a
great enthusiast for Delcroix and the latter painted Dante and Virgil in
Hell, the former in a red cloak and Virgil in a blue one.
Some details are here:
http://www.uta.fi/FAST/BIE/BI5/lk-dela.html
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' really a hendiadys?)
I suspect all this was aimed at his friend and Classics tutor Horace
Moule, rather than the general public whom he hoped would be reading
his novel.
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In chapter 12 of 'A Pair of Blue Eyes
/thomas_hardy/a_pair_of_blue_eyes/11/
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available in full. L.D. Reynolds tracks what was
available when (insofar as our evidence shows): see his Texts and
transmission : a survey of the Latin classics. Chretien was probably
not an unusually learned fellow, but he appears to have known the big
chestnuts.
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Dear Manzer
, often in a very lively and
accessible way, on TV and radio programmes, plus, of course, the
amazing access to resources that the Internet has allowed.
I think many others, like myself, agnosco veteris vestigia flammae
and very enriching it is too as it underpins so much of our culture.
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and read
them with attention and interest.
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This discussion seems to be everywhere, also here in Germany.
Some standards are so clear, that they might be out of discussion:
In classical period (Cicero-time)
c was always spoken as guttural explosive (in Germany: k)
- absolutely
phrase 'lumen
purpureum' signifying 'the light of love'.
Can anyone tell where in Virgil this comes from and whether it was a
general Roman expression, or one coined by V?
And why was the 'light of love' thought to be purple?
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done to him, or is this so
unnatural that it would be better to read the material in translation?
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Many thanks for these interesting and helpful comments. My own
favourite from Shakespeare is Much as the waves
reasonably well-educated Roman
contemporary with Virgil have picked up his works and said this is
splendid stuff, I must read on or, more likely, this is all too
difficult for me, I am going to stick with Ovid and Catullus?
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Perhaps we should continue this debate privately, or over
lunch
, D., Deviant Focalisation
in Virgil's Aeneid, PCPS 36 (1990)? I found this via a web search
and haven't a clue what PCPS is.
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I am generally in favour of looking at ancient literature
with modern
methods: at least there is some useful terminology. I read
an article
recently
the Aeneid. The fact
that I remember this after 50 years is a testament to his teaching
ability, but I still do not understand why he found it so fascinating
and powerful. Can anyone enlighten me ('nox deruit' as one might
say?)
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Also, I believe, L.P
probably be completely
unintelligeable to a Roman of the 1st century BC.
Is there a generally accepted view of the way the language might have
been spoken by Virgil? And is this recorded anywhere?
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I have been re-reading Aeneid 8.306-341 and was struck by the 6
instances of 5
it have a long and respectable
history as a Roman name?
If anyone wants to look at The Gododdin it is at:
http://camelot.celtic-twilight.com/poetry/aneirin10.htm
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of his contemporaries
say thaat of him?
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understood the Celtic
language(s) spoken there and been familiar with some of the
traditional pan-Celtic stories. I would be most interested to know
what current thinking is on this Celtic dimension of Virgil.
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Subject: VIRGIL: Re: Greek origins of the Irish?
Dear Virgilians,
I hope
be nice if
there were something from the lips of Dido.
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