[Marxism] NZ workers among longest hours in First World

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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" I could have found other aging radicals like me to write for North Star who 
would have met with your approval but I have another agenda."
First, I, for one am glad to see Michael's post. It is one of the great aspects 
of the North Star that there are activists, whom we were once very much like, 
willing simply to say what they need to say and say it forcefully without 
decorum.
Second, I see Michael's points as more of a call to arms rather than a call to 
cuss. I believe he is dead on to call out the timidity of the liberals but ,as 
is patently clear from some the "claptrap" denouncing his post here, it is not 
only bourgeois liberals but "aging radicals" (sic in some cases) who seem think 
that we will win the struggle for liberation from capitalism with well-chosen 
verbiage and erudite logic, the "sophisticated" turn of phrase. Claptrap 
indeed. What Michael, in my view, is saying is that the gloves need to come 
off, both in our styles of debate, but also in the streets. What do you think? 
That we're going to "challenge" the "alt-right" with well-chosen demands and 
inspiring speeches? That the masses are just going to step in line once we stop 
"maligning" and "organize"? Organize what? Good informational picket lines and 
orderly marches? Organize whom? Nice liberals who want to "disagree but not be 
disagreeable" and "workers" in union jackets behind their lo
 cal banners? Do you really believe that is what a struggle for power is 
actually going to look like? More important, do you really believe that we did 
"back when" is going work now? With young people on the bring of lunacy in 
Black and Brown communities under jackboots of police occupations, with young 
women who now believe that they are threatened with sexual abuse and harassment 
without seeming impunity? With immigrant workers and their families feeling 
under threat of deportation; as the most desirable outcome in the face of right 
wing and police--and governmental--complicity? Or how about all us "aging 
radicals" along with our generations under the threat of poverty and misery as 
the social contract for the elderly and the infirm is shredded before our eyes?
Do you really believe that it will take all of us being "nice" and get along 
with each other to show that we are the "better people"?

I for one am with Michael and his generation. We Need To Fight and We Need To 
Fight Dirty and Mean and By Any Means Necessary.

But, please, by all means, continue with lovely turns of phrases and "strong 
economic analyses" demonstrating (sic) how much better educated you are than 
the monsters baring their teeth in front of us.
Perhaps you will create enough of a distraction so that the actual organized 
masses, led by the Michaels and Brandys, the Black Lives youth and the Dream 
Defenders can come behind or flank them. With swords drawn.

The "siempre" in La Victoria is about Amandla, not "speaking truth to power"

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[Marxism] Fwd: The Rojava Project | Jacobin

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Perceptive take by Alex de Jong

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/rojava-syria-kurds-ypg-pkk-ocalan-turkey/
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[Marxism] Fwd: The return of “Christendom” as a political civilisation: The US alliance with Russia in Syria, why it’s difficult for so many to believe, and the resumed Clash of Civilisations | The Et

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[Marxism] Fwd: Mariela Castro's March: Cuba's LGBT Revolution l HBO Documentary Films l HBO

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Only available to HBO subscribers unfortunately.

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[Marxism] Fwd: Marxism and the Struggle Against Counterrevolution in Syria – Hummus For Thought

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Re: [Marxism] No concern for the opposition

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:01 PM, wytheholt--- via Marxism 
>  wrote:
> 
> The real problem is that this claptrap -- the use of over-the-top language, 
> racist, sexist, homophobic, and maligning -- mirrors what is going on in the 
> world of "journalism."  Insults and name-calling are getting built into 
> regular "political" speech and commentary.  Anger and meanness suffuse all 
> characterization.  This 21-year-old Montanan believes that, in the future, 
> ONLY insulting name-calling prose will even be listened to.

There’s a good reason Roosevelt’s famous line about “speaking softly” finds 
resonance: Most people intuitively understand (even if they typically behave 
otherwise) how easily speaking loudly can be mistaken for carrying a big stick. 
They also intuitively understand such a mistake can be fatal if you’re the one 
doing the ranting, empty handed, and your adversary has come to the fight 
prepared.

Trump may have a thin skin, but I don’t think the same is true about the people 
he’s discovering he now works for.

“Don’t malign, organize!” (Sorry, Joe.)
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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You people have to understand that the North Star operates on two 
levels, both as a journal like any other blog and as a networking tool 
to connect with young leftists. There are things about Michael Siebert 
that are not revealed in the brief description at the end of his piece 
that makes his participation essential as an activist involved with some 
of the most burning issues of the day. I could have found other aging 
radicals like me to write for North Star who would have met with your 
approval but I have another agenda.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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"Great minds have great faults."

Lord Macaulay; History Of England from the Accession Of James II [1848]

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>It is true, Bill, that sometime Louis's 3-pointers fall out of bounds,
>carried a bit too far by his tendency for sarcasm. But, overall, he is a
>good trooper.
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>On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:28 PM, William Quimby via Marxism <
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>> Louis, that was a pretty shitty comment.
>>
>> - Bill
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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It is true, Bill, that sometime Louis's 3-pointers fall out of bounds,
carried a bit too far by his tendency for sarcasm. But, overall, he is a
good trooper.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition,

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It's a crappy, immature article and Louis knows it. But he *adapted* to
some youth who wants to hurl insults at the ruling class as if this means
anything.  Reaching youth doesn't mean *adapting* to immature and the
childish insults of the Trump camp, which is what our 21 year old write on
northstar is advocating. In fact I'd say it's downright condescending to
*not* treat this young writer as an adult, which is what Louis is doing
here...and correct him. And that means calling him out.

I left my actual comments on the blog instead of posting them here.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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Louis, that was a pretty shitty comment.

- Bill


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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The real problem is that this claptrap -- the use of over-the-top language, 
racist, sexist, homophobic, and maligning -- mirrors what is going on in the 
world of "journalism."  Insults and name-calling are getting built into regular 
"political" speech and commentary.  Anger and meanness suffuse all 
characterization.  This 21-year-old Montanan believes that, in the future, ONLY 
insulting name-calling prose will even be listened to.



 Louis Proyect via Marxism  wrote: 

More than any other buzzword, the term heard most throughout the 2016 
election cycle was “political correctness.” The American public was 
obsessed with the idea of words and their connotations — what was, and 
wasn’t okay to say. Republicans and the burgeoning far-right vehemently 
opposed the notion that any words were off-limits, and gleefully 
insulted their opposition with reckless abandon.

Curiously, liberals did not fight back. Instead, a smug sense of 
detachment came over the movement’s key voices, and a new set of rules 
for how to delegitimize conservative arguments arose. We could certainly 
call them racist, homophobic and xenophobic, but attacks on their 
appearance, for instance, were uncouth. Liberals were above the right’s 
vulgarity, and they would beat them based on the tenets of decency and 
our superior morality.

full: http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=13012
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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I wonder what you were writing 50 years ago that was so brilliant. North 
Star is trying to relate to young radicals not people like you who 
probably put their teeth in a jar before going to sleep at night.


On 12/1/16 2:25 PM, Dennis Brasky wrote:

What a stupid, immature, non-political article!

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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What a stupid, immature, non-political article!

>
> The left’s inability to meaningfully antagonize will allow those rising to
> power to continue to call them weak. The first steps toward truly combat
> the coming fascism must involve not just outspokenness and protest, but
> vulgarity and cruelty. It is not in our interest to humanize our enemies,
> because they are not human. Their near-cartoonish evil affects the entire
> world, and their concern for our feelings on the matter has proven to be
> nonexistent.
>


> Now is not the time to wonder if fat shaming Chris Christie is
> counterrevolutionary. When we discuss Steve Bannon, simply calling him a
> neo-Nazi will not do. He knows what he is — we must also call him a
> spineless, bloated, gas-filled corpse. Donald Trump is not merely orange,
> and calling him “Drumpf” will not phase him. He must instead be a
> repulsive, childish, damp, limp-dicked slimeball. We must ruthlessly mock
> their appearances, and disrespect them the way they disrespect us.
>
> full: http://www.thenorthstar.info/?p=13012
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[Marxism] Fwd: No concern for the opposition

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More than any other buzzword, the term heard most throughout the 2016 
election cycle was “political correctness.” The American public was 
obsessed with the idea of words and their connotations — what was, and 
wasn’t okay to say. Republicans and the burgeoning far-right vehemently 
opposed the notion that any words were off-limits, and gleefully 
insulted their opposition with reckless abandon.


Curiously, liberals did not fight back. Instead, a smug sense of 
detachment came over the movement’s key voices, and a new set of rules 
for how to delegitimize conservative arguments arose. We could certainly 
call them racist, homophobic and xenophobic, but attacks on their 
appearance, for instance, were uncouth. Liberals were above the right’s 
vulgarity, and they would beat them based on the tenets of decency and 
our superior morality.


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Re: [Marxism] Erwin Baur, veteran socialist and trade unionist, died

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Comrades can type his name in the Search field at marxists.org for numerous
mentions/interviews/articles about and by him.
Now that he's gone, anything he has written can be uploaded to MIA if
someone is willing to take charge of an Erwin Baur archive.

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> Erwin Baur died last night December 1, 2016 at 101 years old. Erwin was a
> tireless fighter for the working class, labor unions, and socialism. He
> placed himself deep in the trenches, modest, but intensely dedicated to
> promoting social change and the cause of labor. We owe to him and people
> like him much of the progress that was made in the US around working
> conditions and workers rights in the 1930s and later on. Born in Hilden
> (Düsseldorf) Germany, he was brought to North America at age 11 by his
> parents and after years of work in Ohio and Michigan retired to California
> where he died. Erwin Baur Presente!
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> My interview with Erwin:
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[Marxism] Erwin Baur, veteran socialist and trade unionist, died

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Erwin Baur died last night December 1, 2016 at 101 years old. Erwin was 
a tireless fighter for the working class, labor unions, and socialism. 
He placed himself deep in the trenches, modest, but intensely dedicated 
to promoting social change and the cause of labor. We owe to him and 
people like him much of the progress that was made in the US around 
working conditions and workers rights in the 1930s and later on. Born in 
Hilden (Düsseldorf) Germany, he was brought to North America at age 11 
by his parents and after years of work in Ohio and Michigan retired to 
California where he died. Erwin Baur Presente!



My interview with Erwin:

https://vimeo.com/83099367
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Re: [Marxism] finance and planning?

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As far as I can tell, Mason's proposals for the financial sector as a
potential savior are no more progressive than those currrent in the
mid-1930s, such as "social credit"; see:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/novack/1934/11/utopia1.htm (George Novack
writing under a pseudonym).

Which, on further digging, is no surprise, Mason being a defender of David
Graeber:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/09/in-defense-of-david-graebers-debt/


On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Andrew Pollack  wrote:

> There's a new article at Jacobin entitled "Socialize Finance: We already
> live in a planned economy. Why not make it a democratic one?"
>
> Unfortunately the article is about pretty much everything except that.
>
> It has much useful information on how finance currently functions, and
> speculation on how it could be reformed under capitalism, but virtually
> nothing on how a socialist democracy would use finance for planning.
>
> As I've said before, the hypermegasupercharged computers currently used to
> trade stocks are far, far more powerful than would be needed to allocate
> resources and plan for the future from the shopfloor to the world as a
> whole. And in fact those computers used by logistics and retail giants
> already have a handle on the distribution and production steering wheels.
>
> Expropriation of the big banks would allow conversion of current financing
> computations into qualitatively simpler, product-by-product calculations
> aggregated up to a society-wide plan - one voted on in essentials at the
> lowest possible level, from central government down to
> factory/office/neighborhood.
> From calculating safe and equitable healthcare and education
> worker-per-student/patient ratios, to calculation of a minimum wage that
> would allow sufficient household income for fulfilling lives, it ain't
> rocket science.
>
> https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/finance-banks-
> capitalism-markets-socialism-planning/
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[Marxism] Fwd: The Sundown Town Vote in Wisconsin: Race-ing the Trump Victory

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Coming myself from a “sundown town”—that is, one which for most of the 
twentieth century remained whites-only, in part by disallowing even 
visits by African Americans after nightfall—I had read the work of the 
sociologist James Loewen on such places with great care. In the massive 
volume, Sundown Towns, and on the website accompanying and updating it, 
Loewen paid special attention to Wisconsin. Partly this was because, 
proportionately, so many of its towns fit into the sundown category and 
partly because their histories were so typical. Many had an early Black 
presence that was removed over time or in a hot moment. Some featured 
billboards warning of their policies. They included small towns, but 
also growing industrial ones, whose good, sometimes union, jobs became 
the property of whites.


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[Marxism] review of Tax on Rojava

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By the ever-on point Alex de Jong.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/rojava-syria-kurds-ypg-pkk-ocalan-turkey/
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[Marxism] Hezbollah and the Workers

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Extremely thorough detailing of the party's class composition and program
and what that has meant for labor mobilizing and organizing:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/12/hezbollah-lebanon-iran-islamic-revolution-labor/

After reading, order the book, which also examines other aspects of the
party's politics and practice.

The chapter on Hezbollah's military policies is very useful for
understanding its counterrevolutionary role in Syria. But of course that
role is intimately integrated with the party's overall bankruptcy, as shown
in the Jacobin article (and in the book). One could even say that
Hezbollah's fight against independent labor politics was key in leaving the
region subject to dominance by various bourgeois - including Islamist -
forces.
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[Marxism] finance and planning?

[Andrew Pollack via Marxism]

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There's a new article at Jacobin entitled "Socialize Finance: We already
live in a planned economy. Why not make it a democratic one?"

Unfortunately the article is about pretty much everything except that.

It has much useful information on how finance currently functions, and
speculation on how it could be reformed under capitalism, but virtually
nothing on how a socialist democracy would use finance for planning.

As I've said before, the hypermegasupercharged computers currently used to
trade stocks are far, far more powerful than would be needed to allocate
resources and plan for the future from the shopfloor to the world as a
whole. And in fact those computers used by logistics and retail giants
already have a handle on the distribution and production steering wheels.

Expropriation of the big banks would allow conversion of current financing
computations into qualitatively simpler, product-by-product calculations
aggregated up to a society-wide plan - one voted on in essentials at the
lowest possible level, from central government down to
factory/office/neighborhood.
>From calculating safe and equitable healthcare and education
worker-per-student/patient ratios, to calculation of a minimum wage that
would allow sufficient household income for fulfilling lives, it ain't
rocket science.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/finance-banks-capitalism-markets-socialism-planning/
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