Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Hi Michael, This is what comes up when I click on the link you gave: You are not allowed to edit this post. --- Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B.

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Dogan Gocmen
I got it Michael, it is on the front page of your web site. - Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, LondonNew York 2007

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-06 Thread Louis Proyect
Néstor Gorojovsky wrote: The day you overcome your liberal-progressive worship of those national movements that, in fact, seek to destroy larger national movements that tend to supersede imperialist domination, that day, you will begin to understand something in this terrain. In the

[Marxism] Life insurance now being bundled like subprime mortgages

2009-09-06 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, September 6, 2009 Back to Business Wall Street Pursues Profit in Bundles of Life Insurance By JENNY ANDERSON After the mortgage business imploded last year, Wall Street investment banks began searching for another big idea to make money. They think they may have found one. The

[Marxism] Socialist Voice: China / Fidel / Class / US Health Care

2009-09-06 Thread Ian Angus
SOCIALIST VOICE Marxist Perspectives for the 21st Century http://www.socialistvoice.ca September 6, 2009 SUFFERING AND STRUGGLE IN RURAL CHINA http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=584 Is China killing the goose whose golden eggs have financed its economic upsurge? John Riddell reviews “Will the Boat

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff
At 19:54 05/09/09 -0700, michael perelman wrote: One of the keys to Green Technology may be buried in China. Just responding to the alarmist title of this post Peak Rare Minerals, I don't see that there is a peak anything. When you point out that China produces ... 95 percent of neodymium that

[Marxism] Working Poorer; Increased Accumulation, Reduced Reproduction; Or Why the Recovery IS the Contraction

2009-09-06 Thread S. Artesian
From the Financial Times of September 5/6: Families Take Up Food Stamps as Wages Shrink The number of working Americans turning to free government food stamps has surged as their hours and wages erode ...some 40 percent of the families on food stamps have 'earned income,' up from 25

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care

2009-09-06 Thread Greg McDonald
Fred Feldman wrote: About 50 million people are reported to have no health insurance of any kind. Source please? Greg McDonald YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Michael Perelman
Jeff, I agree with everything you said except your point about the word, peak. Mathematically, as long as a fixed supply exists, there will necessarily be a peak point in extraction. The debates about peak oil revolve around the question of the size of that fixed supply. You obviously

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care S. Artesian

2009-09-06 Thread Ralph Johansen
S. Artesian wrote: In 2003, US Census Bureau reported 45 milllion US residents without health insurance. http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/p60-226.pdf Don't you agree that it should not be difficult to construct an extrapolation from these official 2003 estimates that would establish that,

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care

2009-09-06 Thread Ralph Johansen
Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care S. Artesian I'm sorry, Les, I did it again. I forget to remove the name from my cut and paste. etter next time. Ralph YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care S. Artesian

2009-09-06 Thread S. Artesian
Sure. Actually more than sure. Like unemployment figures, I'm certain non-insured numbers are under-reported. Census Bureau has probably updated its figures. I just downloaded the 2003 figures years ago. - Original Message - From: Ralph Johansen mdriscol...@charter.net To: David

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care

2009-09-06 Thread Greg McDonald
Ralph Johansen wrote: Don't you agree that it should not be difficult to construct an extrapolation from these official 2003 estimates that would establish that, with the rise in layoffs and plant closures, the reduction in working hours and benefits generally in the past 4 years, including

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-06 Thread Tom Cod
Why do you say that? Clearly one can have differences with their tactics and strategy, but to say they were not a leftist group or were not to the left of Peron seems dubious and sectarian. Moreover, why then did the Peron regime and its successors do so much to repress and kill them?

[Marxism] *ANTI-POSCO STRUGGLE* - *APPEAL FOR SUPPORT*

2009-09-06 Thread marxistfront
ANTI-POSCO STRUGGLE* - *APPEAL FOR SUPPORT* *Friends,* For more than four years the Posco Pratirodh Sangram Samity (PPSS) has been bravely resisting attempts to displace over 30,000 people in Jagatsinghpur District of Orissa by POSCO, a South Korean company, which wants to set up a steel company

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Jeff
At 09:04 06/09/09 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote: Jeff, I agree with everything you said except your point about the word, peak. Mathematically, as long as a fixed supply exists, there will necessarily be a peak point in extraction. Well you've obviously studied the economics of this, but what I

Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-06 Thread brad bauerly
I am sorry but that is not a good critique of Benn Michaels. Like yours Louis it too is filled with strawperson arguments based on things that he never said. I am not going to get into specifics of his arguments, which I personally think he does not present very well, because it is clear that

Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-06 Thread Louis Proyect
brad bauerly wrote: I am sorry but that is not a good critique of Benn Michaels. Like yours Louis it too is filled with strawperson arguments based on things that he never said. I am not going to get into specifics of his arguments, which I personally think he does not present very well,

Re: [Marxism] Socialist Voice: China /Fidel /Class/ U.S. Health Care

2009-09-06 Thread S. Artesian
I don't know that all that is necessary. 2009 Statistical Abstract of the US shows that for 2006, 47 million without health insurance, 15.8% of the population [est. at 250 million in 06]. So now we have a Census estimate of 300 million in the US-- 15.8% of with is what 47.4 million. Close

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Michael Perelman
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 08:39:16PM +0200, Jeff wrote: I think the discussion of such shortages has to do with the short-term price fluctuations that may concern industry and speculators, but the specter of any one country (or even a few countries) having long-term control of one essential

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Michael Perelman
Agreed. On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 12:02:33PM -0700, nada wrote: Don't confuse rare earths elements and compounds with precious metals. One can say that all precious metals are rare earths but not all rare earths are precious metals. Most rare earths are sold by by the lbs/kilo and all

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

2009-09-06 Thread Michael Perelman
If Sartesian means that the extraction rates need not conform to the bell curve. I agree, but extraction must reach a peak before the supply is exhausted. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-06 Thread Néstor Gorojovsky
Of course we should have given them all our solidarity. But they were certainly NOT TO THE LEFT OF Perón. Been explaining this on the list long ago. When and if I have time again will expand fully in the future. 2009/9/6 Tom Cod t...@hotmail.com: Why do you say that?  Clearly one can have

[Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Mark Lause
In a nutshell: * modern humans separated from Neanderthals around 300-400,000 years ago rather 500-600,000 years. * modern humans migrated out of Africa between 55-60,000 years ago rather than 70-80,000 years. * our African ancestral mother, the mitochondrial Eve lived around 110-130,000 years

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Greg McDonald
Mark Lause wrote: The second point, revising the out of Africa timing is of particular interest. Could you elaborate on this? Greg McD YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to:

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:32:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, saboca...@gmail.com writes: The second point, revising the out of Africa timing is of particular interest. Could you elaborate on this? Greg McD Comment They also got more recent dates for other crucial events such as the

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Mark Lause wrote: * our African ancestral mother, the mitochondrial Eve lived around 110-130,000 years ago, rather than 150,000-200,000 years ago. I have no idea how solid this idea of a mitochondrial Eve is. However, assuming that it is valid, what follows is

Re: [Marxism] The German Auto Bubble-WSJ

2009-09-06 Thread Lüko Willms
johnaimani (johnaim...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-02 at 13:29:51 in about [Marxism] The German Auto Bubble-WSJ: AUGUST 31, 2009 Germans Debate Whether Car Trade-In Plan Will Backfire By GEOFFREY T. SMITH The car scrappage program, which subsidizes new car purchases on old

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread S. Artesian
You're right, you have no idea how solid this idea is. And your catastrophe theory proves it. First the mitochondrial Eve and the primal Adam did not exist at the same time. Secondly, the mitochondrial Eve is not every human's common ancestor. She is the Most Recent Common Ancestor of all

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Mark Lause
Again, I claim to be nothing but a rank amateur in following these things. And I'm not entirely sure what the point of confusion is here... Let's start by throwing out the entire Biblical language the media used to spin the original story. The term Eve was in the post because it was in the

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Waistline2
I have no idea how solid this idea of a mitochondrial Eve is. However, assuming that it is valid, what follows is that at some time in the evolution of *homo sapiens sapiens* there occurred such an enormous catastrophe that in the whole world only one *hss* couple survived, and so all the

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread S. Artesian
First, you mentioned a single couple, I was pointing out that the mitochondrial Eve had nothing to do with a notion of a single, founding couple. As for the rest-- you really need to look at this from the biological, genetic view, not from your ideological point of view. Most Recent Common

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:06 AM, S. Artesian wrote: Yes, Eve had sisters-- guess what? They all had the same mitochondrial DNA. And if they did, they all had the same female ancestor. You may send us from Eve to Lilith, but the Lilith and her sisters problem remains the same as the Eve

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Mark Lause
Of course it can, Shane. The way to think of this is to go back before the Eve and ask how those lines disappeared. Every time a new human is created, it'll have the mitochondrial DNA of its mother's mother and that of its father's mother isn't passed on. Every role of the dice loses 50%. So,

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 9/7/2009 12:07:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: But what is the probability that, out of an interbreeding population large enough to speciate, all but *one* maternal line will gradually become extinct? Darwinian evolution can't handle the

Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-06 Thread Tyler Zimmer
A good critique would take what he actually says and show how some of it is empirically wrong and politically a bad tactic. Well, what he sloppily insinuates about income inequality and New Left movements being the cause of it, is easily refutable. But as far as tactics are concerned, I'd

[Marxism-Thaxis] *ANTI-POSCO STRUGGLE* - *APPEAL FOR SUPPORT*

2009-09-06 Thread marxistfront
ANTI-POSCO STRUGGLE* - *APPEAL FOR SUPPORT* *Friends,* For more than four years the Posco Pratirodh Sangram Samity (PPSS) has been bravely resisting attempts to displace over 30,000 people in Jagatsinghpur District of Orissa by POSCO, a South Korean company, which wants to set up a steel