Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note

2010-12-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == As one of the ballistics, I have no intention of making any additional comments on

Re: [Marxism] Visa, Mastercard and PayPal's funding Illegal Israeli Settlements? Priceless.

2010-12-16 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Thanks. I feel so much better now. - Original Message - From: Dennis

Re: [Marxism] Islamophobia and France's NPA

2010-12-16 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Not hard at all. Ask Dan. But I would point out that these people are not being

Re: [Marxism] re : Islamophobia and France's NPA

2010-12-16 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't think people are dumb and immature. I think you're acting in a dumb and

Re: [Marxism] re : Islamophobia and France's NP

2010-12-16 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Right paternalistic slaveholder because I oppose the French government's attempt

[Marxism] The Right of Nazi-ons to Self-Determination

2010-12-14 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Report: KLA behind deadly human kidney trade JAMEY KEATEN From Associated Press

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but WTF? Who cares who wins the Nobel

Re: [Marxism] So Much for Left Wing Solidarity in South America

2010-12-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And the working people of Britain knew that the Labor Party was their party. They

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't give a damn about his Nobel-- MLK marched with the sanitation workers of

Re: [Marxism] Nader is losing it

2010-12-11 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Nader's piece reeks of respectful, objective, admiration. I find nothing

Re: [Marxism] Obama Isn't Spineless, He's Conservative

2010-12-11 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Heaven forbid we should merge politics and logic, that would be so unlike Marx--

Re: [Marxism] More Facts (Dirt) on Anna Ardin and how She Destroyed Assange Case Evidence Over And Over Again

2010-12-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's slick. Thorstad's on the right track-- meaning this is a case of feminism

[Marxism] Ignorance is Bliss

2010-12-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Words written to be eaten From the Financial Times December 9: Germany: A 'real

Re: [Marxism] Flash: Royal convoy attacked as English students revolt

2010-12-09 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == God save the Queen She aint no human being There is no future In England's

Re: [Marxism] A letter from a spurned lover

2010-12-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Have you been paying attention at all to what's been happening over the past 3, or

Re: [Marxism] My employer reverses itself on Wikileaks

2010-12-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Author of the very good Growth Against Development: The Economic Impact of

Re: [Marxism] Guardian Headline -Surprise - Not

2010-12-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Oh, they definitely want to get rid of him. He served his purpose, and now it's

Re: [Marxism] Fed Explains...

2010-12-05 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't know... I've been hearing about this trend for 35 years... ever since the

Re: [Marxism] Assange: Australia has abandoned me

2010-12-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Naive, no? - Original Message - From: Stuart Munckton

Re: [Marxism] Assange: Australia has abandoned me

2010-12-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I mean it's not like there isn't lots of evidence of Australia towing the US line

Re: [Marxism] Support /any/ struggle of the oppressed: a question whichI feel is scathing.

2010-12-03 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Let's keep that in mind when it comes to endorsing spontaneous manifestations of

Re: [Marxism] Swedish trolls and sex by surprise

2010-12-03 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Every time I have sex I'm surprised. I mean, somebody actually wants to sleep

[Marxism] Fed Explains Consensual Surprise Sex Date Rape

2010-12-03 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The Fed has released the details of all its transactions/programs to combat the

Re: [Marxism] A comment by Diana Johnstone on A Serbian film, Croats and Muslims, and the left

2010-12-02 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What a trip: Everyone, ok maybe not everyone, but many of those who disagree with

Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note

2010-12-02 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Here's what I get when I follow the links and try to search: Not Found The

Re: [Marxism] re : Voline, Mahkno, and the Bolshevik

2010-12-02 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I didn't know you were channelling Woody Allen. That makes ever so much

Re: [Marxism] Inequality on the Diamond

2010-12-02 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Let's be careful. We're talking about the New York Yankees, not some jerkwater

Re: [Marxism] Of Perhaps Some Small Interest

2010-12-01 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And speaking of German debt: WSJ of 11/30 published a breakdown of German bank

Re: [Marxism] Washington considers espionage charges against Assange

2010-11-30 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Wait a minute... what does any of that matter? What matters are the documents,

Re: [Marxism] Washington considers espionage charges against Assange

2010-11-30 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's like saying Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon Papers to get a date with Jane

Re: [Marxism] an asshole economist chimes in on how to get the economy going

2010-11-28 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It was already time to do that in 1973, when the Chicago Boys turned Chile into

Re: [Marxism] The Irish bailout and the necessity for the United Socialist States of Europe

2010-11-24 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Don't think To the barricades really captures the content of the struggle right

Re: [Marxism] China extends development success abroad,

2010-11-22 Thread S. Artesian
discussed this the other day with our resident expert. S. Artesian, chiming in to give some details. To show how dependent China is on coal and how it has screwed up it's railroads, China is now expanding it's intercoastal fleet of coal haulters to export coal to itself by shipping coal by boat

Re: [Marxism] China extends development success abroad,

2010-11-22 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Forgot to add: Michael Karadjis' report on the costs of HSR in Vietnam-- $54

Re: [Marxism] Bolivia's Army Declares itself Socialist

2010-11-21 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The delicate balancing act requiring the grasp of Marxism and revolutionary

Re: [Marxism] Bolivia's Army Declares itself Socialist

2010-11-21 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes that's what you wrote. What exactly does defending his [Morales'] government

Re: [Marxism] A new spectre haunts the WSJ

2010-11-21 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Nope. No explanations for strangeness. No explanation for the strangeness that

Re: [Marxism] Bolivia's Army Declares itself Socialist

2010-11-21 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Good job of avoiding the real questions... or providing any real answers. If you

Re: [Marxism] Bolivia's Army Declares itself Socialist

2010-11-21 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Who said anything about your revolutionary principles? I asked you to explain

Re: [Marxism] Bolivia's Army Declares itself Socialist

2010-11-20 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yeah, right--socialist, anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist-- so much so that I'm

Re: [Marxism] A new spectre haunts the WSJ

2010-11-18 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == As an example, Eurostar does allow dedicated freight trains to operate through the

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: [MLL] Archival material of Revolutionary Democracyexpanded

2010-11-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I can't decide which one to read first: should it be Zhdanov, Molotov, People's

Re: [Marxism] A new spectre haunts the WSJ

2010-11-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The solar panels themselves are using an older, less efficient technology. The

Re: [Marxism] A new spectre haunts the WSJ

2010-11-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's true. For every economist who calls for a review, there's another who says

[Marxism] US Industrial production

2010-11-16 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION AND CAPACITY UTILIZATION Industrial production was unchanged

Re: [Marxism] If only...

2010-11-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Dan: So, as our common human heritage, all historical artifacts up to the 19th

Re: [Marxism] If only ...

2010-11-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Come on Dan-- this has nothing to do with genetics, and everything to do with

Re: [Marxism] The Irish crisis - any comments???

2010-11-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == 1.Essentially, the Irish government turned the entire country into a bad bank to

Re: [Marxism] Tick-tock, tick-tock

2010-11-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I like my version better. But then, I would say that, wouldn't I? - Original

Re: [Marxism] In Search of Pictures of Stanley Diamond

2010-11-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Long shot... but Getty images might have something: http://www.gettyimages.com/

Re: [Marxism] If only....

2010-11-12 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == If protection has nothing to do with Shane's argument, right has even less to do

[Marxism] Demonstration Against Proposed Fee Hikes in Britain

2010-11-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Tory headquarters appears to have been occupied.

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-08 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == We should not forget how this discussion started-- which was about discrimination

Re: [Marxism] The Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == No way you can compare the MFA in Portugal with the soviets of soldier's and

Re: [Marxism] On the Ferreyra murder

2010-11-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Very interesting. My Spanish isn't the best, to put it mildly, but do I have this

Re: [Marxism] Lincoln Elected 150 Years Ago This Day

2010-11-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes, I guess it takes events 150 years in the past for Nestor and myself to agree

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Those are very good points about the transformation of the military with the

Re: [Marxism] Great cartoon spoofing gays in the military

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == IMO that's exactly the reason we don't defend participation in the military--

Re: [Marxism] What is so hard to understand?

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Exactly. We oppose discrimination. We defend those who are attacked because of

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Take it easy, Dan. That's hardly the point of disagreement. Nobody is arguing

[Marxism] Pledge to America [Bank of] by those populist small town, non-elite Republicans

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == From the Financial Times of 4 November. Opening salvo from Spencer Bachus, a

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in awhile. - Original Message -

Re: [Marxism] the USA are buying their own T-bonds

2010-11-03 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yep, ECB is doing it. JCB has been doing it for maybe what? 10 years? Buy the

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: [EcoRev] Crisis in France: 3rd Report by RichardGreeman

2010-11-03 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Is there a link for this? - Original Message - From: Carol Brown

Re: [Marxism] Marxists, bourgeoisie and railroad unions in Argentina [Re: Now is not the time to be a marxist, on Kirchner]

2010-11-01 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Actually, I'd like to go back to my original question. Where is the evidence,

Re: [Marxism] Who cares who wins the elections

2010-11-01 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Wow. And more than one enemyway more. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Marxism] Now is not the time to be a marxist, on Kirchner

2010-10-31 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Thanks to LK for this. And I would like to re-emphasize that Argentina did not

Re: [Marxism] Now is not the time to be a marxist, on Kirchner

2010-10-31 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == An inability to understand what is being said does mpt automatically mean that

Re: [Marxism] Now is not the time to be a marxist, on Kirchner

2010-10-31 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Nobody's asked Fidel Castro to write in the style of anybody-- but two years ago,

Re: [Marxism] MRZine, Che Guevara and Iran

2010-10-30 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Pointless specualation, on a par with tweets about Lady Gaga, the noise from your

Re: [Marxism] Nov. 6 (NYC): Conference on Economic Crisis Left Response

2010-10-30 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Procreation. And naming his son after himself. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Marxism] No double-dip

2010-10-29 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The article doesn't say there won't be a double-dip, but rather that even if it

Re: [Marxism] A nice complement from Alexander Cockburn

2010-10-29 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Get your money back. - Original Message - From: Louis Proyect

Re: [Marxism] A nice complement from Alexander Cockburn

2010-10-29 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == You don't understand, you have to send ME the money. Then you get the tirade.

Re: [Marxism] Realist ontology

2010-10-28 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Dan, Your realist ontology sounds too much, IMO, like epistemology to be derived

Re: [Marxism] Artesian's Bring In The Paper, Bring On The Torches

2010-10-28 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Aw shucks, you're making me blush. I highly recommend the US Dept of Commerce's

Re: [Marxism] Reflections on the situation in France

2010-10-28 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == From a friend .I am not familiar with the Red Star Society, or Workers Party .

[Marxism] Speaking of ultra-left

2010-10-28 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Issue 2 of Insurgent Notes is available, finally, [have I ever told anyone how

Re: [Marxism] Argentine Trotskyist of the PO murdered by Peronists onWeds.

2010-10-26 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Been away a couple of days. Petroni a liar? I don't recall any incidents of him

Re: [Marxism] Postscript on Anti-Muslim Racism Re: Question for Moishe Postone

2010-10-24 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I, for one, am very gratified to note the symbiotic schmuck alert cross-monitoring

Re: [Marxism] Excerpt from Michael Hudson's new book

2010-10-22 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Interesting-- better style, same approach. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Marxism] News from France

2010-10-20 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I think the crucial thing is to move from strikes, from paralyzing the economy, to

Re: [Marxism] A simple slogan [Re: American-style]

2010-10-20 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == We don't need a Father Gapon.

Re: [Marxism] A simple slogan [Re: American-style]

2010-10-20 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Here's what was written by NG: I am not USAmerican, of course, and I am not prone

[Marxism] Everything you need to know about China's internationalism

2010-10-19 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == WSJ of 10/18/10 reported that 11 coal miners were shot by two Chinese supervisors

Re: [Marxism] Why is an economy benefited by exporting?

2010-10-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't see it either, but not for those reasons. An export-driven economy, like

Re: [Marxism] Larry Clark censored in Paris

2010-10-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Hey Shane-- have I ever told you what a disingenuous jerk you are on the Polanski

Re: [Marxism] Larry Clark censored in Paris

2010-10-17 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: NO POLANSKI STUFF On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, S. Artesian

Re: [Marxism] Eva Golinger, narconews, upsidedownworld, EcuadorSolidarity Network

2010-10-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Cool story, bro. Nice attempt to distort the 'real issue' in the exchange of

Re: [Marxism] was the Ecuador coup an amateur job?

2010-10-15 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Oh that's rich-- comparing the discussion here to the capitulation by the social

Re: [Marxism] Report on French Strike

2010-10-14 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Strikes are continuing-- SNCF reports 40% absenteeism yesterday, and I think 25%

Re: [Marxism] Eva Golinger, narconews, upsidedownworld, EcuadorSolidarity Network

2010-10-14 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == If you read the report that I read, that Eva Golinger submitted as evidence, and

Re: [Marxism] Positive development in Ecuador?

2010-10-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And I wonder would the nations of Latin America forming this anti-imperialist army

Re: [Marxism] National armies in Latin America (please, Mark L, help) [was Re: Positive development in Ecuador?]

2010-10-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The Prussian-German model was the model [sometimes fused with some elements of

Re: [Marxism] Positive development in Ecuador?

2010-10-13 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I certainly don't want to damage Manuel's reputation by endorsing his view but

Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 84, Issue 30

2010-10-12 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't think the issue is whether or not policies can alleviate, shorten,

Re: [Marxism] Ecuador: Air Force and Navy ReluctantlyBacked President

2010-10-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Right, and pace Stansfield, the statements of Sept 30 do not show that CONAIE

Re: [Marxism] Ecuador: Air Force and Navy Reluctantly BackedPresident

2010-10-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Propaganda for the next coup? Why? Because Correa really hasn't invited

Re: [Marxism] Ecuador to move to the Left?

2010-10-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Meanwhile the Financial Times quotes Ecuador's production minister, Nathalie Cely,

Re: [Marxism] Ecuador to move to the Left?

2010-10-10 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == That's funny, I think the virtual left is the left that talks about national

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