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Subject: Re: M-TH: Lenin and the working class again
LO All,
George: If the working class is,
as you claim, "potentially revolutionary" then there is no
Lo Again,
They are condemned, then, to
being revolutionary.
We are condemned, King Lear like, to the duty
and possiblity of revolution, it is something that is irrevomovable from our
condition, but we have to choose to exorcise it.
Now in the north of
Deathy: Indeed, police officers are
workers, but I wouldn't consider a police officer inherently revolution - its
absurd as sayign all wopmen are inherently feminist. But, and I do have a
big but, we are all potentially revolutionary, and this is why a vanguard is not
only udnesirable, but
Lo Again,
They are condemned, then, to
being revolutionary.
We are condemned, King Lear like, to the duty
and possiblity of revolution, it is something that is irrevomovable from our
condition, but we have to choose to exorcise it.
Now in the north of
Title: Re: M-TH: Lenin and the working
class
LO All,
Consequently it would
seem that Lenin's vanguardist elitism was a necessary
tool.
But the theory of the
vanguard is predicated on Lenin's (false) assumption of an inherently
revolutionary working class - i.e. that if the working class
But the theory of the vanguard is
predicated on Lenin's (false) assumption of an inherently revolutionary
working class - i.e. that if the working class is objectively revolutionary,
then the actions of the vanguard on their behalf - whether they consciously
want it or not - is
Title: Re: M-TH: Lenin and the working class
Hugh Rodwell: If any social force can be compared to a rapist today it's
the imperialist bourgeoisie. The violence of the working class should be aimed
at dispossessing this bourgeoisie, ie at stopping its depradations. This is pure
self
I have come to the view that the
working class is not inherently revolutionary. The working class, or sections of
it, becomes revolutionary as a result of the influence of a communist
intelligentsia on it. The working never becomes spontaneously revolutionary.
Even in the case of Russia it
