About the only way to (indirectly) measure it would be to make a tool/
jig that would pressurize a known quantity of fluid into them (maybe
half of their computed volume) and to measure the pressure at that
point...
Or just buy known sealed new ones...
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On the way home, I was looking at the dash and console and thinking
that maybe it is a dark brown and not black...
How dark is the dark brown, and is there an easy definitive way to
tell which it is?
The datacard from startekinfo shows paint/equipment as:
Code 1: 172
Codes 2-4 blank
Code
Looks like it might be a half decent car. Was posted a few weeks back too.
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
Maybe I'm using the term wrong, what I meant is the front
bumper/lights/fenders/grill/hood as well as all the stuff behind the grill
and in front of the engine.
No, you are using
Are you that broke?
A new pair of spheres costs what? $120? How much do a new set of
struts cost because you were too cheap to buy 2 spheres and ruin your
struts? Last time I had to do that because I bought a fleabay car
with a bad transmission and in reality some bozo had ruined the
I wonder if I could convince my better half that I should buy this,
transfer the best parts from my white wagon, and sell the white car...
Too bad my white car would probably only bring about 1500 or 2000 unless
the right buyer comes along with wallet pocket on fire and spreading.
Or better yet,
I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety
system with proven worth - why not repair it?
Except on loose surfaces, where ABS can actually do more
harm than good. (Such as fresh snow or slush, or gravel,
or [like the road immediately outside our driveway] a steep
gravel
Well, when you are bottom feeding in the $3k range it's not like you
have a lot to lose if you decide to sell one, bodge up a Frankenbenz or
whatever. You could probably get this guy down to $3k or a bit more,
sell your other one and be out at most $2k max for a decent car. If I
was in the
I think in the end it boils down to value for money... How cheap are the used
spheres?
Remember these are a wear item, like windshield wipers (well maybe not that
bad).
New spheres are $127 apiece from Rusty. So for $250 you'll be set for YEARS...
How much do you value your time, or alternately
Good calculus Curt.
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:20 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re:
I am not yet convinced without further inspection that faulty
sphere()s is(are) the root cause of my jarring (as opposed to bouncy) ride.
Don't forget that one of the two spheres I installed 18 months ago was new
@$140; the other was used. I will remove and inspect both spheres, but if
the new
The quick test once you have them out is to insert a blunt rod into
the opening and see how far it goes until it hits bottom. The new ones
went about half way and the old ones (bad) bottomed out. The ones I
worked on had failed years before I got to them so I suppose a more
recent failure might
On 4/22/2010 9:11 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety
system with proven worth - why not repair it?
Except on loose surfaces, where ABS can actually do more
harm than good. (Such as fresh snow or slush, or gravel,
or [like the road
Quote Since the labor on R/R the accumulators appears to be
easy/cheap/DIY I don't see the problem of experimenting.
Andrew,
The problem is that you risk damaging other far more expensive pieces of
the system, like the control valve and the hydraulic struts, which now
are absorbing all the road
How does ABS do more harm than good? Not arguing, trying to learn the
limitations of a system I have on three cars.
-Max
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:12 AM
To:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote:
The quick test once you have them out is to insert a blunt rod into
the opening and see how far it goes until it hits bottom. The new ones
went about half way and the old ones (bad) bottomed out.
And unless you can
Test
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Alex Chamberlain wrote:
In Europe, where Citroens are
common and use a virtually identical system for their suspension, there
seems to be a thriving industry in recharging the spheres.
I exchanged a few emails with a fellow who recharges the Citroen units.
He said the MBZ spheres were not
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
In Europe, where Citroens are
common and use a virtually identical system for their suspension, there
seems to be a thriving industry in recharging the spheres.
I exchanged a few emails with a
I suspect the Citroen units could be adapted? Maybe Andrew will
volunteer to be our test platform?
-Max
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I am not yet convinced without further inspection that faulty
sphere()s is(are) the root cause of my jarring (as opposed to
bouncy) ride.
A jarring ride is the definition of failed accumulators.
My experience is: the highway expansion joints are not
especially
I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety system with
proven worth - why not repair it?
Think your insurance company would like to have this thread exchange,
especially post-collision when they are trying to decide to cover a claim or
not?
Tell me how to fix it.
Homey don't think so.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
I suspect the Citroen units could be adapted? Maybe Andrew will
volunteer to be our test platform?
-Max
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From:
...No, you are using it right, Max---I didn't mean to single you out. I
just
thought it was generally a strange holdover. We still speak of frame
straightening and the like, even though the only frame the typical
unibody car has is the stiffening rails from wheel well to wheel well to
I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety
system with proven worth - why not repair it?
Except on loose surfaces, where ABS can actually do more
harm than good. (Such as fresh snow or slush, or gravel,
or [like the road immediately outside our driveway] a steep
Further to that, I think of restoring, as more difficult, and expensive,
than put a car into concours condition. Reason being, making a car perfect
is one thing, but restoring a car, means to put back exactly as they left
the factory, and few were perfect. To restore to factory original, often
So, how would you best disable it? We think my wife's Avalon suffered a
We're talking about unplugging the brain box, which leaves
all the plumbing parts in neutral.
failure of the ABS system that left her without brakes. One would
think it needs to go beyond just pulling a fuse or something
How does ABS do more harm than good? Not arguing, trying to learn the
limitations of a system I have on three cars.
On soft surfaces, like dirt, sand, gravel, snow, or slush, braking
effect goes _way_ up once you can plow up a ridge in front of your
locked tire. ABS will prevent this from
Is there a way to test the pickups with a multimeter?
Connect multimeter on AC voltage in parallel to the (connected)
pickup, and look for a smoothly rising voltage (and frequency) signal
as you speed up. Needs to be equal on all three sensors, no jitters.
-- Jim
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