I haven't looked at my 450sl's top in awhile, but I believe the plastic is
sown in place. Why not remove the stitching, remove the old panel to use as
template, and punch the needle holes into the new piece, then hand sow it
back in?
Dave Wakin
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From: OK Don
are fuel filter, as well as the security device in the key.
The car will not start with a valet key, needs to be the fob so I guess
there is a sensor near the ignition. Perhaps my fob battery is low, although
it opens/closes the doors just fine.
Dave Wakin
thought of your sl this morning when it happened, as it was very
misty/foggy this morning.
Dave Wakin
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From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
think this might work for me? The no key turning
situation came out of no where, and I use the original keys, not cheap
copies.
Thanks,
Dave Wakin
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For used parts
, but would rather my original keys work then save
$55 for the other one he sells with random key. Looks like I'll drive the
'ol diesel for awhile until the new part arrives.
Thanks again Joe for the PDF's you sent me.
Dave Wakin
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From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED
Back at the Okiebenz ranch. Airline lost my bags. Thats just great.
They said something about they had a weight problem on the plane.
You didn't try and ship back an engine or something in your bags, did ya?
there have one of these that could
offer advice?
Thanks!
Dave Wakin
Thanks Tom
Dave Wakin
103 589 02 09 00 It was under $20 a few years ago. Works a treat.
Tom
can't blame anyone else for putting it on too tight - I
changed it last year (a whopping 1000 or so miles ago). I have never had
problems before getting it off.
Thanks for any ideas.
Dave Wakin
The SRS light stayed on in my 1997 e320 this morning after I started it.
Anyone know of usual cause for the light not to go off?
Thanks,
Dave Wakin
No code reader. I am hoping it is something easy (i.e. cheap) to fix. I will
check the fuse and wires tonight.
Dave Wakin
Got a code reader? It should give you some clue about what might be wrong.
In the local paper today is a one-owner 1984 300D with 23,000 miles,Charcoal
grey color with the grey/black interior for $1,200.00
Just called the guy and bought it over the phone, picking it up tonight.
Apparently he is moving to Florida and taking his minivan. Guy kept calling
me Don and
then that, mine has been a good car.
Dave Wakin
My granddaughter is looking at a 1997 E320 with 90k miles on it. Does
anyone have any advice about this model vehicle? The price is $9995.00.
windows, etc but well built.
Dave Wakin
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From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT House Build Quality
I actually only purchase pre owned homes of a certain
+9 F in Delhi, NY this morning
On the bright side, it was 25F in my unheated attached garage, and the 97
e320 started right up.
Dave Wakin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
I got quite lucky with my license plates - I live in Delaware County, NY and
they issue special DW XXX plates.
I have DW plates on all three cars, two of which are sequential and one that
is my birthday.
Dave Wakin
this is the probably the battery, or could the
alternator be at fault?
Thanks,
Dave Wakin
The battery meter I used does a load test - that is what indicated to charge
the battery.
Dave Wakin
left. (It declines with age.) A real battery tester puts a
several-hundred amp load on it and looks at the voltage then.
some new clear over top,
blending it it. Then use the paper and buffer to finish. This is assuming
you have BC/CC on your car.
Dave Wakin
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From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Paint
the hood. It has a 10amp fuse that
can go bad, as well as the entire module. I believe other symptoms of this
being bad though is the abs light flashing when you first start the car.
This is from memory about 3 years ago, and applied to my 420sel. Your car
may be different.
Dave Wakin
They used a 126 300SD to run on cooking oil awhile back, would guess they
used the same car.
Dave Wakin
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From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Mythbusters sub-woofer episode
happened if it didn't sit idle for so long. Gas mileage wasn't bad on it,
usually around 20.
Dave Wakin
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From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Anyone
Might be your monovalve - located by the firewall, towards left-center. Last
time I changed it, it was a $30 part from Rusty. 4 flat head screws and
about 5 minutes to check it.
Dave Wakin
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From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent
reboot.
Dave Wakin
I CAN ONLY SEND MESSAGES IN ALL CAPS. PLEASE HELP.
If someone has a carfax account, would they mind running this for me?
3GKFK16Z33G183706
Thanks!
Dave Wakin
Thanks Kaleb!
Dave Wakin
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax please
Report Run Date: 10/10/2006
Vehicle Description: 3GKFK16Z33G183706
That or theft recovery.
Dave Wakin
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From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] just needs interior
I guess removing that interior made it easier to get
there, and still don't get a copy.
I am still getting my favorite searches emailed to me, as well as my daily
status. Just no correspondence between myself and sellers.
I have checked my spam blocker on the email account, and it is not catching
the emails.
Dave Wakin
I tried a different email address with no improvement. Not sure what else it
could be.
Dave Wakin
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From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ebay
it into
the original a few feet above ground? The existing hole into our living room
would be sealed off.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Wakin
I just sold one, same year with 136K. Mine was black on black, very nice
shape.
Best I could get was $3300.
Dave Wakin
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From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject
Thanks Jim. Cleanout is one issue I thought of as well.
Have a look at http://www.woodheat.org/ they have some thoughts
on chimneys. Outside brickwork is one of their least favorite
forms due to several ills and inefficiencies. Best is a metal
pipe straight up through the center of the
I have one for a 123 wagon - I'll take an offer if anyone is interested.
Email me off-list to wakind at delhitel.net
Dave Wakin
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From: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: [MBZ
Looks like it still has the trap on it. Nice car though.
Dave Wakin
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Mailing List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Yes, I am now
, and will scratch them if not
careful.
Dave Wakin
My brother-in-law has a 1991 740 Volvo sedan that is starting hard, then
dieing once warmed up. Will not re-start until it cools down. He is thinking
the coil may be going bad, or one of the many sensors - does anyone have any
thoughts as to what the problem may be?
Thanks
Dave Wakin
Thanks Trampas - I will pass this along to him
Dave Wakin
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From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo issues
Relay?
Volvos are known for having bad
I live in upstate NY, and burn fuel oil all winter long to keep warm - can I
use vegtable oil in my furnace? Or better yet, used fryer oil?
Dave W
Had this same problem on my wagon after it sat for the winter - I replaced
the cable AND lubed the back of the speedo with Mobil-1. It didn't bounce
after that.
Dave Wakin
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From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes
I would take a look at them if I where you.
Dave Wakin
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From: tom tomscat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] head bolts, oil consumption
Dear List,
My 1975 300D 115 chassis is using a lot of oil
So how much did you buy this thing for? What was the auction number?
Dave
It's on the Ethernet, which is connected to this wireless link.
I defy anyone to even find it, much less break in!
Just did - I set your sprinklers to come on 4 hours later and turned all
your lights on. Oh, and I let your dog out.
:)
Dave W
I think you failed - all I got was a picture of some junker 123..
Dave W
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: [MBZ] test 1
--
Kaleb C.
I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone has
an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672
Thanks
Dave Wakin
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Dave Wakin wrote:
I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone
has
an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672
Thanks
Dave Wakin
Kaleb,
If NY is not too far to travel for a good deal, here is a truck you may be
interested in:
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT quad cab 4x4 pickup, Cummins Turbo Diesel,
automatic, air, cruise, tilt, power windows locks, power seat, cd, 35,000
miles, like new, factory warranty, $29995.00
I
Check ebay - they sell all kinds of fuel mileage enhancement devices.
Magnets, turbines for your intake, secret devices, etc. :)
Dave W
Now, somebody tell me how to double my fuel mileage. My
old 124 diesel (now OK Don's) got 34 mpg. This beast of a car gets
20-21.
or your alternator was on it's way out, and killed the battery.
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From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Electrical Theory
I have a theory about alternators and
Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate?
A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and
states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not
shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable
items and bid
culprit?
Thanks
Dave Wakin
Thanks Jim.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Brake Question
I have a 2001 Yukon XL 4X4 that the wife usually drives. I took a trip
to
the
On your Honda TRX, I believe their is an adjustment screw for the clutch on
the side of the engine under a plastic cap. I had one years ago, and seem
to remember adjusting it once for the same issue. Also had a 250SX
three-wheeler that had it for sure.
Dave Wakin
- Original Message
Our 1990 300TE that I put a new speedo cable in a few weeks ago is starting
to shake a little - what type of lube should I use on the cluster?
Thanks
Dave Wakin
Can I use that on the speedo collar where the cable plugs in?
Thanks
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedomter Lube
Our 1990 300TE that I put a
Thanks Jim
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedomter Lube
Can I use that on the speedo collar where the cable plugs in?
I do!
-- Jim
So...I changed the oil today and, as I was laying on the driveway resting
while the oil drained out, I noticed for the first time a big 30
stamped on the left side of my engine.
What the heck is that?
How old the engine will be next year!
Those German engineers - they think of everything.
I am pretty sure you don't want to use Teflon tape if it is near a heat
source.
Dave W
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From: John Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: New MBZ List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:36 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Teflon Tape
I am trying to fix a fuel system
I had emailed the guy who had the car for sale (1985 380SL), and this is
what he had to say:
The subframe was updated in 1979 and the last of the 450SLs and all 380/560
|R107's have the updated subframe. I called my old mechanic in Virginia and
he says the R107 subframes that MB is shipping now
I had emailed the guy who had the car for sale (1985 380SL), and this is
what he had to say:
The subframe was updated in 1979 and the last of the 450SLs and all 380/560
|R107's have the updated subframe. I called my old mechanic in Virginia and
he says the R107 subframes that MB is shipping
I put in into excel, then made a PDF of it. Not sure if attachments will =
work, but the 3 minutes it took to make it readable sure helped me.
Dave W
that is exactly what i did. this doesn't work, huh? better ideas?
On 6/21/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/21/06 12:26
You may be able to find an old furnace expansion tank - used to regulate
water pressure in a water-based heating system. If you know anyone in the
heating business, I would ask them.
I found a rather large one in our basement ceiling that had been left in
place when a newer one was installed
Johnny,
Here is one not to far away from you - needs some work and not 4x4 though.
Dave W
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Toyota-Tacoma-Passenger-side-Damage-2WD_W0QQitemZ4646255678QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6439QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
In light of the fact that I will be building soon, I am looking
I had a similar trip to VA to pick up a 87 300SDL I bought years ago. It was
February when I went down, and I too discovered as I headed north home to NY
that I had no heat. I watched the outside temp gauge go from around 50 in
southern VA to -2 when I got home. I shivered for hours.
Dave W
I am interested as well if you decided not to buy it.
Dave W
Let me know if you're just tire-kicking and don't intend to buy
either car. Handsome finder's fee to you. I'm due for another
adventure. Still staying close to the phone(my pocket, Ha) due to my
stand-by status.
Johnny B.
I
I have a 1990 with 138K on it. Runs good but the little things are starting
to go on it (muffler, idler arm, etc).
Nice car though and decent gas mileage (we get around 20)
Dave W
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '92 300TE: Any concerns specific to the engine on these?
What sort of mileage do you see on extended highway trips?
On 5/22/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice car though and decent
I bought the Harbor Freight Portable Tire Changer for $36 through the
Inside
Track Club and their tire spreader for $20.
I have the HF Tire changer, and although it does work, it is HARD on your
wheels. If you don't mind your wheels getting all scratched up, it is good.
I also figure
Perhaps a front caliber is not engaging? Have you tried bleeding the brakes?
Have you changed the brake fluid?
Dave W
- Original Message -
From: kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:29 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton
Good 'ole Salt belt 450sl:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Mercedes-Benz-450sl-Parts-Car_W0QQitemZ4633792134QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Has anyone seen one of the new suburban / yukons? It took me a few times,
but now when I see one, all I see is a Ford Expedition.
Dave W
I'm not here either :)
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From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] hello?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
anyone out there???
NO
Marshall
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Marshall Booth (who
Here is one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Astoria-Rapid-Flexx-CV-Boot-Gun-NEW-NEVER-USED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34999QQitemZ4628646042QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/car/148841246.html
Johnson, Nancy
856 11-1/2 St SW
Rochester, MN 55902
Courtesy of anywho.com's reverse lookup feature.
Dave W
If anyone is SERIOUSLY interested, I could ask the guy. But
otherwise, I don't think I'd feel like hassling him.
And why is it that everybody always forgets to say _where_
these
If you pick that car up, I would be interested in the rear bumper off it.
Dave W
Wow, that's really tempting. How hard to take my 300TD drive train and fit
it to that 92 chassis? Might have to call on it for the int/ext colors.
It's about 25 minutes from my sister's place in Braintree..
. The other thing I should mention is that I am using water for coolant
right now as I track down MB Coolant. Not sure if that would explain my
problem. Seems unlikely since it was working fine.
Um, I think you found the problem - water can not cool an engine by itself -
you need a 50/50
Any ideas where to begin? I seem to recall that the car has about 160k
miles on the clock.
I had a 190e that wouldn't idle - ended up being a vacuum line on the
throttle body that had come loose. I know it's not the same problem or even
engine, but maybe worth a look.
Dave W
Remember to mark the drive shaft so you can re-install it the same way.
Otherwise, it will not be balanced.
Dave W
Hello everyone!
A 1979 300CD may be following us home on Sunday. Due to lack of an extra
driver and since it has a cracked-up windshield that may be unsafe, we're
planning on
I did
the side-to-side wheel test again and it feels stiff again.
Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change
that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the
right peice in the puzzle.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Wakin
and
moved the plastic piece inside the reservoir, the steering seemed to be much
better (didn't drive, just moved wheels side to side).
Thanks
Dave Wakin
this car is the 1990 300TE with 137K
PS pumps fail. Sometimes by leaking and sometimes by not pumping. I
could IMAGINE it pumping okay when
Steering Pump
Dave Wakin wrote:
Thanks for the reply Marshall -
The car has never been in an accident and the problem doesn't seem to be
temperature related as it did it on the way to work today (about 20 or so
out).
I will check the ball joints.
Would a clogged filter do this? What has me
I've been trying to guess what SWMBA stands for myself - and have gotten
nowhere.
Can someone spell it out for me so I can go Oh, yeah now I get it
Thanks
Dave W
anti-seize?
On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730
Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.
Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive
Not knowing what is being picked up, this may or not help you, but you can
have fedex or ups do a pick up at the location - only costs a few dollars
more then to drop it off at shipping center. I have bought quite a few ebay
items from sellers who didn't want to ship, but were fine with having
I use my garage, but only after using some heavy mill plastic to make a
spray both. I usually wet the floor down as well.
I have sprayed an entire car this way, but the fumes get pretty heavy.
Dave W
Is that not what the garage is for? You should see the overspray on stuff
in
my garage.
How about CLR - Calcium, Lime, and Rust remover.
If I recall my chemistry correctly, you want some liquid which is
acidic in nature a Ph of 7 or much less is better. This will dissolve
the metal/rust etc.. Hopefully, the rings causing the problem will
dissolve before the other metals
Can't the degree of chain stretch be measure by holding the chain horizontal
and measuring how many degrees it bends? I always thought that was the real
degree of chain stretch anyway, and this figure is kind of backed into by
the marks on cam and crank by measuring the length?
If this is the
Where did you get that Harry? Thanks
Dave W
I installed a Flologic water circuit breaker in the main water line coming
into the house. Any water outlet running for more than 20 minutes
(adjustable) and the Flologic shuts off the main line. If you go out of
town and push the away button,
I know I am setting myself up for the ol pass or fail response, but I wanted
to make sure my new email address works. Feel free to BZZ
Dave W
Looks like I passed...
Guess as long as my email doesn't contain Gabriel in it, Kaleb lets it
through.
Still trying to figure out, since Gabriel was sooo smart, why he would
use his name in the yahoo address and try to re-subscribe. I guess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was already taken.
Dave W
I don't know where the timer function of the switch is located, but I would
assume it is part of the actual switch. If so, I would think you could just
get a rear light vanity switch from Kaleb and change it with the defroster
switch. Or, just use your current rear vanity light switch with the
Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83
240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight.
Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing
tonight.
Is this right?
Dave W
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I don't think you can go wrong for 100 bucks..
Dave W
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From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 1974 240D too good to be true?
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at
That car has definitely had some paint work done to it. You can see where
they masked off the VIN plate on the door (as well as the other info
labels), and where they sanded (or stripped) the VIN plate on the radiator
hose.
There is also some peeling by the radiator VIN plate, as well as on
Yes we do
1971 280C
1972 280SE
1976 240D stick
1979 450SEL
1987 420SEL
1989 420SEL
you dont want to know how much for the package deal
Had a tire like that on my 82 300SD. I was about 100 miles from home when I
noticed it, so I put the spare on and put the bubbled tire in the trunk.
Sometime between when I changed it and going to get a new one, it had
exploded while sitting in the trunk. Blew the steel belts out quite nicely.
Gotta wipe the dust off this guys user account
Welcome back John
Dave Wakin
Delhi, NY
Here's one for less money w/ less miles...it is a few years older though
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/car/124133888.html
Dave W
car-parts.com is a good place to look for used auto parts. Not sure on
shipping though, or color.
Dave W
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From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 parts
I'm
www.car-parts.com goes to car-part.com
Just looked for you - if you use the 300e, there are many pages, cheapest is
$50
Dave W
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From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:01 PM
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