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Out on the desert here, if you lay down for a nap you will wake up with vultures circling overhead. waiting just in case ;)) I've never seen them go for anything that's not dead. Rattlesnakes are always hung on a fence to "ripen" and even coyotes won't touch them for 3 days...

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Year ‘round. I’ve never seen them go after anything injured. That’s not to say they won’t follow something they think is on its last legs, but they won’t attack it that I’ve ever seen. Food sources are too plentiful here, I suspect. I see them all year long. Sort of like the darned geese

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On 08/01/2018 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: In nature, nothing goes to waste everything gets recycled in its own way. Nature, is very efficient. We toss squirrel carcasses on the brush pile that we build and burn at the lake. They normally disappear right away too. Not sure what

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On 08/01/2018 11:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who had gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road right in front of

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I have turkeys all over the vast estate, at least for a couple more weeks until turkey season opens.  I have not yet been attacked by any though.  If one decides to try, I might have a nice turkey dinner right quick. --FT On 1/8/18 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Beware the

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Beware the aggressive OH Turkeys! Aggressive turkeys halt mail deliveryPublished: Monday, January 8, 2018 Aggressive wild turkeys are preventing postal carriers in Rocky River, Ohio, from delivering mail to over two dozen homes in the area. Several residents of the Cleveland suburb have had to

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The vultures are here seasonally - I throw the dead squirrels out beside the road for them to clean up, but they aren't here in the winter. Something does carry them off though, they are rarely there the next morning. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes

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In nature, nothing goes to waste everything gets recycled in its own way. Nature, is very efficient. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks. I guess coyotes fill the void. > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via

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Thanks. I guess coyotes fill the void. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > They smell the decay scents and find whatever is emitting it, so it > usually takes a coupla days to get their attention, sometimes sooner in the > heat. > > --FT

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They smell the decay scents and find whatever is emitting it, so it usually takes a coupla days to get their attention, sometimes sooner in the heat. --FT On 1/8/18 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does it have

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Maybe they left some bits for the clean-up crews after they butchered it and took it home, where it probably went on the smoke for a half day or so --FT On 1/8/18 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures? Just curious. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44

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> Dan wrote: > As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which > perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and > pretty much and open areas of dead animals. Is that year 'round? Or are there more of them in the winter? I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures

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One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does it have to be fully dead? On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an > amazing community service by

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As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open areas of dead animals. They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a carcass in a matter of hours. I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly

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Then what did they do? Leave it for the vultures? Just curious. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who had > gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty

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I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who had gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe 10

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> G wrote: > For those of you who have never been hunting: > > https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE I guess I'm picky. The copy says "...M16 in your hands." and a bit later "Reload the machine gun and engage." *sigh* Even at full auto an

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> Dan wrote: > That’s not hunting, that’s eradication. Hunting would imply > tracking and stalking your prey. Tracking and stalking is - well, tracking and stalking. Hunting is "go looking for prey". I see no requirement for tracking, or stalking, or hiding in a blind, or being "sporting" in

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That your outfit? G Mann via Mercedes January 7, 2018 at 2:30 PM For those of you who have never been hunting: https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE ___

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That’s not hunting, that’s eradication. Hunting would imply tracking and stalking your prey. I’m not criticizing, as I fully understand the rationale behind what they’re doing. I just don’t see anything sporting about it. -D > On Jan 7, 2018, at 3:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes

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Or, if you prefer shotgun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV_d0IMJ_tk On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:30 PM, G Mann wrote: > For those of you who have never been hunting: > > https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh > 2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE > > On Sun,

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For those of you who have never been hunting: https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s usually what prompts a call to the trapper. They go around

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That’s usually what prompts a call to the trapper. They go around tearing up people’s yards and as HOA VP I get the word. -D > On Jan 7, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come

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My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come through the neighborhood and dig up every yard.  Can't deal effectively with them in the residential community though he has the means to do so. --FT On 1/5/18 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've got a cousin in

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From what I've read on the subject, domestic hogs go feral more quickly than any domestic animal. The folks that study such things wrote it only takes 2 generations for a "full wild hog conversion" to happen. A wild boar with full tusk is a force to contend with, head on. On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at

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OR 100% boar... On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Blended with other meats of 100% boar? > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600 >> "M. Mitchell Marmel

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Blended with other meats of 100% boar? On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600 > "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" wrote: > > Dan Penoff wrote: > > > We have a local trapper that comes

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600 "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: > > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for > > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return. Yum. > > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap

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clay wrote: > I am sort of interested in the impact on all the out of town snakes that got > let loose in the state. Will this cold snap just slow them down, or will it > be able to knock out a pretty healthy proportion of them? > Iguana is tasty. Get it into the freezer until you have a

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On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return. Yum. > > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really pretty >

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That’s possible as we do have a lot of wasps, but having kept bees I can assure you that most of the pollinators visiting the tree are honeybees. The trapper we use to clear our park of wild boars of which I referred to previously sells most of his catch to the Latino community in the area. He

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It might surprise you how many states do have wild, or at least feral porcine are a pest. WA has an issue in the hinterlands. Not sure if the Latin immigrants are trying to trim the numbers. Practice for drive bys and such, and you get lots of meat for tacos clay 1974 450sl - Frosch -

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The bees might be wasps. They like to lay eggs in the fruit. It is a symbiotic relationship. The fruit is only good for like a day or so. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976

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They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me. He said they will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the trigger or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next. -D > On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: >

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And boors, we've got some of them. I try not to be -Curt On Friday, January 5, 2018, 5:39:52 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 05/01/2018 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar

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On 05/01/2018 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't have any up here... -Curt No boars - just bores? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't have any up here... -Curt On Friday, January 5, 2018, 3:17:07 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South

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We had iguana in Honduras it was like greasy chicken with fish skin... -Curt On Friday, January 5, 2018, 2:28:17 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the opportunity to try it. Since they are an

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Aruba, if you ask a local nicely --FT On 1/5/18 2:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Whilst on several foreign trips to locales with native iguanas (Central America a Caribbean islands) I have inquired about finding a store or restaurant that serves Iguana, and I have not yet found a

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I am sort of interested in the impact on all the out of town snakes that got let loose in the state. Will this cold snap just slow them down, or will it be able to knock out a pretty healthy proportion of them? Iguana is tasty. Get it into the freezer until you have a goodly amount, then you

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We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for free. He’s given me lots of pork in return. Yum. He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really pretty cool. One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch) mastiff sort of dog (I don’t know

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Sounds like a great experience and a great meal. The key to anything that might be tough is low and slow. At noon I just had some more of my Man Candy(TM) Home cured corn beef brisket, so tender it melts in you mouth m (cooked low and slow) My cousins and uncle in Hawaii

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I had wild boar sukiyaki prepared by Japanese gold miners when I was in Fiji. Very juicy and flavorful, and not too tough IIRC. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South >

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Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South Pacific, were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to keep them out. The fence was of limited success. The CO had made it clear nobody could shoot them. So the ever creative Yankees opened the gat to the

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Whilst on several foreign trips to locales with native iguanas (Central America a Caribbean islands) I have inquired about finding a store or restaurant that serves Iguana, and I have not yet found a place but I've gotten plenty of strange looks. - Max Charleston SC

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Lizards falling off trees reminds me of the Shmoo (plural Shmoon) invented by cartoonist Al Capp. Shmoos ".. reproduce asexually and are incredibly prolific, multiplying exponentially faster than rabbits. They require no sustenance other than air. - Shmoos are delicious to eat, and are eager to

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While the python thing is purely south Florida/Everglades, understand that they are extremely difficult to catch. The state has a very nice bounty on them, but I don’t think there are many caught on an annual basis. Again, iguanas are not common this far north, as it’s not a tropical

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Someone down there needs to write and market a python cookbook. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the > opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd >

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Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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That’s what we refer to them as. I’ve never tried to pick one or eat them. I look at it as a contribution to keeping the local flora and fauna alive. Especially the bees, as I used to keep bees when I lived in Indiana. And I understand that picking the fruit won’t affect the bees…. -D >

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Why ornamental figs? Why not grow a real one? If you don't like figs ship them north. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It got down to freezing the last two nights. Might make it up to the low > 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny

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It got down to freezing the last two nights. Might make it up to the low 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!) Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing. We do have lizards in our trees and bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out. Kitty will alert me if that

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tree chicken --FT On 1/5/18 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in Florida has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong explains

[MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

*-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in Florida has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong explains that "green