Re: [MBZ] 450SL Project Car

extra 0 in price --FT On 9/24/23 12:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Uh, OK. [00g0g_kZCU0OPTONV_0t20CI_600x450.jpg] 1980 mercedes-benz 450sl for sale by owner - Orlando, FL -

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Project Car

I’m sure there are rustier cars out there but not many would be this bad. Was in parked in the ocean? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2023, at 11:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Uh, OK. > > >

Re: [MBZ] 450sl

Nice light interior. Could be a flappable car. On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Priced a bit high, but could be a fun car. I think these had the short tear > end? > > https://www.copart.com/lot/32243318 >

Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

I was correct about the 450SL On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Calling elections? Nope, missed that one. > > Predicting auction results? Nope, 280SE coupe went up to $19k, reserve not > met. 450SL went for $13,250. > > What'll your

Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

Calling elections? Nope, missed that one. Predicting auction results? Nope, 280SE coupe went up to $19k, reserve not met. 450SL went for $13,250. What'll your third act be? - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

I was being subjective, but basically we are in agreement. On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My buddy has an ivory/dk brown 450SL in good shape like that too. I would > not say it is boring but it is not particularly exciting either.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL and 250SEC on BAT

My buddy has an ivory/dk brown 450SL in good shape like that too. I would not say it is boring but it is not particularly exciting either. --FT On 11/11/16 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: 250 SE coupe - some pluses and minuses. Currently at $9 K. Should stay below $15 or

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

I never heard of autumn beige, but is a compelling color. Not sure why b/c I usually dislike beigey shades. On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 9:15 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > It had a full Marshall Booth. If it were in need, it got attention. > There was no tear down. The

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

It had a full Marshall Booth. If it were in need, it got attention. There was no tear down. The busted was made good and bulbs, fuses, rubber parts replaced. clay On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > Dealbreaker > > On the newer one, did they CHANGE THE FUSES? >

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

Dealbreaker On the newer one, did they CHANGE THE FUSES? --R On 3/5/16 5:24 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I did not try it yesterday, and in doing the listing I am seeing a few things I should have asked about. To my knowledge, the AC is not charged clay On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Rich

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

I did not try it yesterday, and in doing the listing I am seeing a few things I should have asked about. To my knowledge, the AC is not charged clay On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > Do the ACs BLOW ICE COLD? > > --R > > On 3/5/16 3:30 PM, clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

Do the ACs BLOW ICE COLD? --R On 3/5/16 3:30 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I had the pleasure of visiting my indy yesterday. He has two 450SL that need a new home. One is pretty much a parts/project car. It has been outside for years and has moss growing on the body. Not running at the

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

could make it a two for one deal. Have K'leb come out and haul them on his stacked hauler with detachable wheel clay On Mar 5, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Too bad car #1 isn’t close by, I would love to Martha the sh*t out of that > thing. > > Car #2 is a real beauty.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL sales

Too bad car #1 isn’t close by, I would love to Martha the sh*t out of that thing. Car #2 is a real beauty. I love the color. Just get that gawdawful radio out of it and put a proper Becker in. Dan doing some minor Martha’ing this afternoon > On Mar 5, 2016, at 3:30 PM, clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Out gassing pipes

High end: Boral or similar stainless steel system I'd see what rockauto has for prices (and freight+++) and compare that to autohausaz, then to a SS system. My guess is that i'd buy from crockauto. I slowly get the car up to date. She runs now, but still has issue with crap bosch wires

Re: [MBZ] 450SL too rich, possibly

If it's possibly to rich, there is an adjustment knob on the side of the control unit. Assuming (yeah, I know, shut up) it's the same as my '73 450 SE, it is located behind the right side kickpanel under the glove box. You can turn the rheostat back and forth and hear the idle quality change.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL too rich, possibly

Rich running is often a failed manifold pressure sensor or (the cheap fix) a leaking hose from the manifold to the sensor. Causes VERY rich running, as in black smoke when you step on the gas, but that will indeed dilute the oil. Milage will only drop from about 12 to about 8 Peter

Re: [MBZ] 450SL too rich, possibly

I could have resolved the running rich issue already. New air filter. Replaced the old/busted hoses to the valve covers. Changed plugs and wires. Old plugs came out looking like text book good mixture plugs, no sooting, no cracks, nice tan color and no heavy black goop clay On May 23,

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Jim - The difference was the configuration of the piston crown. This allowed variations in compression ratio between a high of 9.5 to one and 7.5 to one. One can view the differences in section 107\Engine\107\M117_45\03-316.pdf of the manual. Barry What is the difference between the engine

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

hardened (sodium filled?) should be installed so no problems will happen in the future. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:14:31 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL Message-ID: 5e9795d1-d891-481d-b2b5-9dcef9ffd

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

in the future. -Curt Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:14:31 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL Message-ID: 5e9795d1-d891-481d-b2b5-9dcef9ffd...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

As I recall, every MB engine already has hard valve seats so there's no issue there. The 450 engine is a wheezy-for-US job that's extra low compression anyway. Europe got the high-compression 280, 350, and 500 engines. Not us. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Actually, the myth was that the lead oxide produced an ablative coating -- that is, one that wears away but doesn't wear the underlying seat -- and protected the valve seats in cheapo crap Detroit motors with the valve seat (and guide) machined directly into the cast iron of the head.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

What is the difference between the engine components? Different head, or different pistons/rods, etc.? --R On 7/24/2010 9:38 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: As I recall, every MB engine already has hard valve seats so there's no issue there. The 450 engine is a wheezy-for-US job that's extra low

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

It already has hardened valve seats -- the only real problem would be detonation, so if ti pings richen it up a bit, or add some ethanol or other octane booster. I'd try premium unleaded before getting all bent out of shape. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

What is the difference between the engine components? Different head, or different pistons/rods, etc.? That I don't know for sure, but I think it was all in the head. (Crappy cam, larger chambers, etc.) All a byproduct of flawed thinking, where parts-per-million was the goal rather than

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net With nice big 1974 bumpers. (but it predates catalytic converters, right?) http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1855418235.html *   I have a 74 450SL (in storage x 10 yrs+) and it is pre cat, pre unleaded. I am quite sure the first

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Van Knutson wrote: speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about the leaded gas issue? additives etc? Well, if it weren't for tax considerations, you could run 100 octane low lead (about twice as much lead as regular gas had when it went off the market about

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets you very far if you get stopped and checked -- On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Van Knutson wrote: speaking of which, once I awaken my

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

  Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net   Van Knutson wrote: speaking of which, once I awaken my sleeping beauty, what should I do about the leaded gas issue? additives etc? Well, if it weren't for tax considerations, you could run 100 octane low lead (about twice as much lead as regular gas

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

OK Don wrote: And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets you very far if you get stopped and checked -- You need to get in tight with an aviation mechanic who occasionally has to drain wing tanks to work on a plane.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Van Knutson wrote: With whatever the price of 100 octane (7 pts above even present day premium) 93 octane pump gas is the average of research plus motor method. I believe 100 octane avgas is research method, so it could easily be 93-95 octane by pump gas standards. The good news is that it

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

I used to run my 67 Skylark on 100 avgas when I had to do errands for the FBO I worked at. It liked it just fine! --R On 7/23/2010 6:56 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: And it's around $5.00/gal In OK, you can declare the tax and pay it seperately, but I don't know that this gets

Re: [MBZ] 450SL

Unleaded premium will be fine. In fact, it will work BETTER than leaded fuel, since you won't be polishing off the valve seats and honing marks with lead oxide. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 450SL on the cheap?

See http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/107/rt.html for info on the variations. The '80 has the most anemic of the 450 engines. My experience was that every piece of rubber in the intake system was hard and leaking. There are a LOT of rubber pieces in there! The engine runs MUCH better after ALL of them

Re: [MBZ] 450SL on the cheap?

Looking at this car. Any comments on the drivetrain? Known issues? It clearly needs alot of work but could be fun weekend car for me and the wife. Drivetrain fine. Evil Chrysler ACC from Hell not fine. Special areas are paint, rust, soft top condition, and upholstery condition. Everything

Re: [MBZ] 450SL EGR pipe thread size

Does anyone out there happen to know the thread size where the EGR pipe is attached to the back of the intake manifold on a '76 450SL? TIA. Sorry, no. Mine got a plate stuck in it, but the parts were all still there. I didn't have the testicular fortitude to actually replace the exhaust

Re: [MBZ] 450sl Hardtop Removal

Thanks Jim - we got it off. Found a nice mouse nest under the soft top lid - no holes in the top luckily. Dave - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450sl

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

Rich Thomas wrote: Ideas? Oh, I almost forgot -- how many gears does this tranny have? 3, or 13, or something like that. If the car has been sitting, the injectors are probably spitting instead of atomizing. The cheapest possible cure I can think of is a bottle of Chevron Tecron and an Italian

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

That is exactly what I told him to do first, fill with some good premium, pour in a bottle of Techron, and drive it hard and fast. He bought me lunch for that advice! I did not detect the 6-7 shift though, maybe I did not go fast enough. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

All German cars are like that, my old Audi Fox did it too. Man, I miss that car! Rusted away, still ran great but there were holes everywhere... Peter

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

That's the first thing to try. My '78 started to run rough at idle, then progressed to rough all the time, then it quit starting all together.Turned out to be a combination of lots of loose and/or dried out parts. The rubber seals around the injectors were rock hard, shrunken, and had to be

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

RPMs, but that 1-2 shift chirped the tires when I stomped it! No way ours will do that. But it's a '76 smog-boxer. Ideas? Oh, I almost forgot -- how many gears does this tranny have? Ought to be three. But I'm no expert. Count the orange pips on the speedometer, should only be two of

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running

Oh yes, that was one of the first things I noticed about the Mercedes vehicles. They were like a slot car at speed. They felt so stable and secure as opposed to Detroit iron, which took two hands and white knuckles to drive over 65 mph. Tom Potter ... I think owning this MB was when I first

Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

I rebuilt this '76 engine to replace a '78 engine, so used the manifolds from the '78. Looking at them, though, I think you'd need at least the down piped from a '78-'79 in addition to the manifolds. I can't imagine having those things in there - too tight as it is. I did briefly toy with the

Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

Hi Jim, Have you done anything to the steering damper? Some I've seen have been so bad that they flop back forth with little or no effort. Not very expensive thankfully - BTW, my 240D had a bracket from the AT to the exhaust - the exhaust pipe eventually broke right where the bracket

Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

I have that manifold and CAT sitting in the back yard if you want another one -- the brace is solid on this one. the equivilent brace (more of a gusset) on the other side is broken from the manifold, but you're welcome to it as well. Of course, shipping will be high - they're heavy. On 9/11/06,

Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

Have you done anything to the steering damper? When last I checked it it was good. Didn't pull it off to check it this time though. BTW, my 240D had a bracket from the AT to the exhaust - the exhaust pipe eventually broke right where the bracket attached Seen this, but not on this car.

Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

Wasn't there a kit offered by MB to move the cats out of the engine compartment? On 9/12/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you done anything to the steering damper? When last I checked it it was good. Didn't pull it off to check it this time though. BTW, my 240D had a bracket

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tire question NEVER MIND

Yes, MB replaced the subframe, cost him a couple bills to get some other stuff fixed up in there -- bushings, etc. but they did it fine. His indy told him it would be about $2k, The List came through with the warranty info, I asked the indy if MB would fix it free and he suddenly remembered

Re: [MBZ] 450SL tire question

Rich, did MB replace the subframe at no cost? Darrell Rich Thomas wrote: My buddy has 2 bad tires on his 450SL from when the front subframe cracked and threw things out of whack. He went to get new ones, they are Michelin MXV Energy Plus, and the tire shop says Michelin doesn't make them

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Parts Car

1974 Mercedes 450SL. Parts or restore. Did run. No left dr or left fr fender. Some body rot. Has hdtop w/no glass. Gd for parts $300 What a magnificent knock-around pickup truck that could make! (Hauling yard waste around the property, etc.) All the fun of a Frankenheap, at a similar price,

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Parts Car

What a magnificent knock-around pickup truck that could make! (Hauling yard waste around the property, etc.) All the fun of a Frankenheap, at a similar price, but with that beautiful 107 styling. A well-done (stretch) 107 pickup would be a real piece of art. Take a richer man than me to come

Re: [MBZ] 450SL antenna

All the 75s I have seen had it on the rear, I believe they started that in 75, becuase I have a 74 115 with it on the front fender andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be too totally anal about it, but our 1976 300D had a rear fender-mounted antenna. IIRC, the '75 models still had the antenna on

Re: [MBZ] 450SL antenna

Until 1976, the antennas were mounted on the front fender. From '76 on they were on the rear quarter panel in an attempt to reduce wind noise. With the top down, one assumes. At no time was an antenna mounted on the trunk lid. RLE

Re: [MBZ] 450SL antenna

Not to be too totally anal about it, but our 1976 300D had a rear fender-mounted antenna. IIRC, the '75 models still had the antenna on the passenger side front fender. Randy - am I correct? On 5/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until 1976, the antennas were mounted on the

Re: [MBZ] 450SL antenna

:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL antenna Not to be too totally anal about it, but our 1976 300D had a rear fender-mounted antenna. IIRC, the '75 models still had the antenna on the passenger side front fender. Randy - am I correct? On 5/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Tranny ?

In a message dated 4/7/2006 7:12:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My buddy's 79 450SL tranny has started acting up -- holding (what I think is) the 2-3 shift at 35-40mph. He says it does not shift right sometimes, will rev much higher, then shift. I have not

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Tranny ?

My buddy's 79 450SL tranny has started acting up -- holding (what I think is) the 2-3 shift at 35-40mph. He says it does not shift right sometimes, will rev much higher, then shift. Don't forget to check the kickdown switch. Easy to get crapped up. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 450SL Tranny ?

I'll have him check that out, see if it is buggered up at all. Does this tranny have the B2 (or B4?) valve that breaks? Does it have vac assist? I'm trying to narrow things down from the transmission is broken. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R, Don't overlook a failing kick down switch,

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

You mean the front subframe is cracked? Not really a big deal on those cars. I happen to have one sitting here right now all ready to go. Its just a matter of unbolting the 2 engine mounts and suspending the engine up, then get the car up in the air and drop the 4 bolts that hold the

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

. Other wise he can buy a used one from PGAuto for $225.00. Ask me how I know this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:28 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED?? More

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

We went over to the indy shop just now and took a look at it. Shonuff the left lower control arm rear bracket was damnear cracked off the subframe. Looked like some of the crack had been there awhile but the rest is recent -- nice and shiny where it is separated. We called 800formerc and

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

More news re: the 450SL (122k miles) -- buddy took it to his mech who has taken care of it for 12 yr. Guy says the frame is cracked, fears putting it on a lift, definitely not driveable. Did not get a specific location but he said it was 10in long on a diagonal somewhere, like it had hit

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:28 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED?? More news re: the 450SL (122k miles) -- buddy took it to his mech who has taken care of it for 12 yr. Guy says the frame is cracked, fears putting

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

Rich Thomas wrote: More news re: the 450SL (122k miles) -- buddy took it to his mech who has taken care of it for 12 yr. Guy says the frame is cracked, fears putting it on a lift, definitely not driveable. Did not get a specific location but he said it was 10in long on a diagonal somewhere,

Re: [MBZ] 450SL questions -- pulling and jacking

Most likely he has a dead steering shock and hence bad tie rod ends -- very little else to go wong up there EXCEPT front control arm bushings. The 107 chassis has the same suspension as the W114/115 chassis, and it's easy to work on. You should replace the front subframe mounts, check the

Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

If the front subframe is cracked, hie thee hence to an MB dealer and check to see if the recall for a cracked subframe has been done on the car. If not, they will replace it for free as a warrenty job -- if not, I happen to have a spare If it is a front frame horn, it's time to find a

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

Hmmm, Went through when I sent reply to him On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 04:35 PM, Kevin wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:33:05PM -0700, redghost wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BZT. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:13:43 -0700 X-DSNContext:

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

Jim is gone? I hadn't noticed. Anyone have his email? I'll write him and beg. On 9/21/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to mount an effort to get Jim back on the list. On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 02:28 PM, Kevin wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:20:49PM -0700, JJJ

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

LT Don wrote: Jim is gone? I hadn't noticed. Anyone have his email? I'll write him and beg. How could you forget about the Frankenheap!!! He still posts on the mercedesmailinglist.com list the email he uses to send to that address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its hard to imagine that a guy

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

We need to mount an effort to get Jim back on the list. On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 02:28 PM, Kevin wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:20:49PM -0700, JJJ wrote: some of you may remember the tale of getting screwed on ebay on a '75 450sl in houston...well, the piece of shit arrived

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

where is jim these days? Was he ever here? Is he pissed off or something? redghost wrote: We need to mount an effort to get Jim back on the list. On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 02:28 PM, Kevin wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:20:49PM -0700, JJJ wrote: some of you may remember

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:21:53PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: where is jim these days? Was he ever here? Is he pissed off or something? His e-mail addy is no longer in service it seems. I have another one from him somewhere, need to hunt it down. K

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

He caught wind of the 617s for free, and told me to put them in Gump. Seems he is not working now, but has chosen to not be on the list. Did we say awful things to him, or is there some sort of yoohoo list or R/E list thing? Some one should figure out what he deal is On Wednesday,

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 04:26 PM, Kevin wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:21:53PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: where is jim these days? Was he ever here? Is he pissed off or something? His e-mail addy is no longer in service it seems. I have another one

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:33:05PM -0700, redghost wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BZT. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:13:43 -0700 X-DSNContext: 335a7efd - 4523 - 0001 - 80040546 Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) X-Spam-Checker-Version:

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

Send it back to Htown right quick and maybe you could get it totaled by flooding or blown away or something, collect the insurance. Offer ends Saturday. --R JJJ wrote: some of you may remember the tale of getting screwed on ebay on a '75 450sl in houston...well, the piece of shit arrived

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

Sorry you got screwed, maybe you post it in the local Star? Some Seattle idiot will no doubt want to offer you lots of cash for it. On Monday, September 19, 2005, at 08:20 PM, JJJ wrote: some of you may remember the tale of getting screwed on ebay on a '75 450sl in houston...well, the piece

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

what is the local Star? thanx

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale? what is the local Star? thanx

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

The MB owner rag. Silver Star newsletter for the Seattle section (covers Spokane too) they have a classified section where folks post over priced cars for sale. On Wednesday, September 21, 2005, at 06:30 AM, JJJ wrote: what is the local Star? thanx ___

Re: [MBZ] 450sl disaster sale?

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:20:49PM -0700, JJJ wrote: some of you may remember the tale of getting screwed on ebay on a '75 450sl in houston...well, the piece of shit arrived today...on an expensive truck. car is in spokane, wa...odometer says 115k...but i don't believe it one bit When you