can you see if they are 695, $695, or $695.00?
Gary Hurst wrote:
i think we sell them for 695. let me check with rusty
On 4/3/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I have them for $695.00
Rusty,
Do you have them for $695?
or 795, $795 or $795.00 for luther
On 4/3/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can you see if they are 695, $695, or $695.00?
Gary Hurst wrote:
i think we sell them for 695. let me check with rusty
On 4/3/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 3, 2006, at
Thanks!
Bob Rentfro
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From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
Bob Rentfro wrote:
I'm interestedI'll be hot soon.
Dunno if I'll make
Bad terminology on my part... a generic heater valve (which is
apparently not a ball valve?) is what I'd like to use.
I'd call it more of a barrel valve. The guts is not spherical,
but cylindrical. The difference is that there are only two
O-ring (or equivalent) seals at the ends, whereas
I'm confused... does the monovalve have two discrete positions (full
on/
full) or can you PWM on the ms scale and have a variable position
between 0-100% open? I always thought it was the first... the control
would open it for a second or two on low heat and longer and longer
open
pulses for
Jim typed:
I'd call it more of a barrel valve
Plug valve...
Bob Rentfro
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From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:19 PM
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Bad terminology on my part
I have them for $695.00.
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:23 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
While the wagon's being dealt with we've had to fall back on the '80
300D
I have them for $695.00
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
While the wagon's being dealt with we've had to fall back on the '80
I have them for $695.00
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:41 PM
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Joe, no personal experiences, but I was thinking about
I have them for $695.00
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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:03 AM
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Yes - I might be interested if the servo in my SLC doesn't act right
On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I have them for $695.00
Rusty,
Do you have them for $695?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
No, they are $695.00
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Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I have them
i think we sell them for 695. let me check with rusty
On 4/3/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I have them for $695.00
Rusty,
Do you have them for $695?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
No, they are $695.00
H $695 That's news to me.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Apr 1, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
For the cars that accepted both the Chrysler and VDO ACC systems
(107 123 but what else?)
116s
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
I'm interestedI'll be hot soon.
Bob Rentfro
supposed to be 85 next week
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From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
Yes - I might be interested
OK Don wrote:
I have been wondering what the status of your project was - even
visited the project's web site last week! Thanks for bringing back to
our attention.
Which website have you been looking at? If its the
www.ece.msstate.edu/etc/etc/ site, that is horribly out of date as the
group
Jim Cathey wrote:
If you can DIY for only as little as half the commercial price then
the commercial price is probably pretty reasonable! You could probably
do very well with a PIC (or some such) and a monovalve and vacuum valve
array out of a later car. And a tiny amount of software of
Bob Rentfro wrote:
I'm interestedI'll be hot soon.
Dunno if I'll make it in time for the Phoenix summer to kick in!! When
I get a few working PCB's I'll be sure to let you and OK Don know!
John
John Robbins wrote:
The current plan is to use a stepper motor to drive a simple ball
valve... we'll see how well that works though ;)
Radio control models have a broad variety of rotating servos that
seek a position on command. Prices start under $10 and go up over
$100. Somewhere I have
The current plan is to use a stepper motor to drive a simple ball
valve... we'll see how well that works though ;)
Do not such valves get pretty stiff over time? That would be
my worry about such an approach. You'd really want a geared
motor to make sure you could get its attention. That is
Got the PIC, vac valves, and software. Still working on the coolant
valve... I don't like the monovalve since the control could be
strange, and if you can't get a used one, they are pretty expensive
new.
As I mentioned earlier, the control for them is not strange at all.
Just a PWM signal
In a message dated 4/1/2006 4:25:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or you could wait for my senior design project to finish ;) Its a
replacement similar to the Unwired tools, but should be about half the
price ($350).
If you can DIY for only as little as half
It is nice that there are alternatives and I agree that the ACC2
systems
are complicated and expensive to fix. Here comes the BUT: They
really aren't that bad a system.
I have heard before that they work well and that the only real
problem is when they break. The VDO system does give you a
Jim Cathey wrote:
The current plan is to use a stepper motor to drive a simple ball
valve... we'll see how well that works though ;)
How about using a common GM (or whatever) heater valve? Has a lever
coming off of it and is _very_ easy to move. Probably pretty cheap
too. I took one off
Mitch Haley wrote:
John Robbins wrote:
The current plan is to use a stepper motor to drive a simple ball
valve... we'll see how well that works though ;)
Radio control models have a broad variety of rotating servos that
seek a position on command. Prices start under $10 and go up over
$100.
Let me know when they are ready, John!
I've been paticently waiting.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 151K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II
Yes - I might be interested if the servo in my SLC doesn't act right
after sitting two years.
Anyone want to start a pool on whether it will work?
I have been wondering what the status of your project was - even
visited the project's web site last week! Thanks for bringing back to
our attention.
price ($350). The most expensive part of the whole project is the
vacuum valves ($125 for four) so if you want to find some used ones
you
should be able to reduce that cost even further.
The bank of 4 (or is it 5) that's in the later VDO ACC system
comes to mind. Junkyards are full of
Don't forget, I have them to sell.
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC II servo woes
While the wagon's being dealt with we've had to fall back
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:27:37 -0500 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm really tired of dealing with that particular Rube Goldberg
device; so I'm thinking of investing in the Unwired Tools replacement
for it and the amp. Anybody in these parts had experience with same?
Impressions?
Didn't occur to me that you might have the Unwired Tools retro kit,
Rusty. If you do, I'm definitely interested. If not, why don't you
give them a holler see if you can get hooked up. They do sell to
the public but if you can get them for a better price, I sure don't
have any problem with you
Or you could wait for my senior design project to finish ;) Its a
replacement similar to the Unwired tools, but should be about half the
price ($350).
If you can DIY for only as little as half the commercial price then
the commercial price is probably pretty reasonable! You could probably
do
While the wagon's being dealt with we've had to fall back on the '80
300D as a backup. It's doing fine except the servo's gone belly up
again and after wasting way too much effort in trying to revive it I'm
really tired of dealing with that particular Rube Goldberg device; so
I'm
Joe, no personal experiences, but I was thinking about ordering one today and
giving it a whirl.
Almost forgot here is a writeup somebody did of the Unwired Tools
replacement.
http://home.mchsi.com/%7Ew116sd/ACCIIKIT/W116SD_ACC_conversion.html
Joe Knight wrote:
While the wagon's being dealt with we've had to fall back on the '80
300D as a backup. It's doing fine except the servo's gone belly up
again and after wasting way too much effort in trying to revive it I'm
really tired of dealing with that particular Rube Goldberg device; so
Or you could wait for my senior design project to finish ;) Its a =
replacement similar to the Unwired tools, but should be about half the =
price ($350). The most expensive part of the whole project is the =
vacuum valves ($125 for four) so if you want to find some used ones you =
should
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