On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:20:35 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
A year ago, ATT was blocking Netflix; Verizon sold Durham to
Frontier, who is just horrid; Time Warner will send you to collections
even if you are paid up, doesn't provide service, etc. etc.. Same
issues
no push
to upgrade infrastructure...
-Curt
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:20:35 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes
Not unlike selling people mortgages they could not afford to help them.
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Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the
people who can not afford mistakes.
...
You might want to change the subject line or better yet, stay on topic. :)
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:48 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the
people who can not afford mistakes.
Seems the Washington
Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the
people who can not afford mistakes.
Seems the Washington Healthplan finder system in destroying families. There
have been multitudes of issues with the computer not paying, or not showing
the policy has been paid
Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many
of the people who can not afford mistakes.
Seems the Washington Healthplan finder system in destroying
families. There have been multitudes of issues with the computer
not paying, or not showing the policy has been paid
Curt wrote:
You know she was taken out of context right?
It doesn't matter. All that is done but the sound bite remains a fox
to quote. As with all politics, it makes zero sense.
mao
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Grant wrote:
This troubles me. Deeply.
Yes!
But there is nothing to be done for or against this.
That is the large disappointment I sense.
Gov't might be good if it was limited to intention rather than
guidelines and rules. As in any human organization the guidelines and
rules become onerous,
I don't know much of anything about any of this, and apparently
neither does anyone else except the FCC, the lobbyists, and the big
bidnesses who would be affected. Those of us who have to pay or
live within the regs know little or nothing.
--R
Have you read the 300+ pages of the
Roger wrote:
...as I read the details, the main concern was to get it categorized as a
utility...
There are no details! That is the complaint I hear. It is all ACA
all over again. Pass the legislation so we can read it - sounds like
Nanny Pelozi all over again. A utility - yeah, those
You know she was taken out of context right? She said the words but they leave
out the sentence before...
-Curt
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Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC
I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from those of
you who make a living in the IT industry.
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Max
Charleston SC
It is a blatant power grab by the lame duck Dear Leader. The
sheeple all stand by and let our rights slip away as the lil 'Dolfie
You have to pass it to see what's in it only works with stool samples,
not government regulations or bills before Congress...
The intense secrecy prior to this vote with copies of what was being
proposed not being allowed proper and full review really gave the whole
undertaking that stool sample
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/soros-ford-foundation-shovel-196-million-to-net-neutrality-groups-staff-to-white-house/article/2560702
--R
On 2/27/15 8:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from
those of
you who make a living
I would look closely at your bill to see exactly what the fees and taxes are -
a number of them are there to benefit the service provider, and they exploit
the heck out of them, of course!
What I think was most important for this is the two items:
1.) The ISPs can't throttle or restrict
The Internet is working just fine, why get Uncle Sam involved? That worked out
so well with health insurance.
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On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:22 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I think the FCC did the right thing, as the Telcos/ISPs were making noises
I think the FCC did the right thing, as the Telcos/ISPs were making noises
about controlling or selling bandwidth to control speed for some customers.
Dan,
I agree with some of your points, but as I read the details, the main
concern was to get it categorized as a utility so it can
I think the FCC did the right thing, as the Telcos/ISPs were making noises
about controlling or selling bandwidth to control speed for some customers.
I would point to the TechDirt blog for some good discussion on this subject if
you're interested. Not surprisingly, Verizon was the biggest
Thanks Dan.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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People getting their internet through a telco are already being taxed, Comcast
has been getting a free ride in that regard.
-Curt
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I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from those of
you who make a living in the IT industry
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/
Many of us see the U.S. government as a benevolent and all-knowing parent
with the best interests of you and me, its children, at heart. I see the
U.S. government as a dangerous tyrant, influenced by
BIngo!DING DING DING! We have a WInner!
Dan,
I agree with some of your points, but as I read the details,
the main concern was to get it categorized as a utility so it can be
regulated and TAXED. And you know who will pay the taxes. My home
phone, land line, is comprised of
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
People getting their internet through a telco are already being taxed,
Comcast has been getting a free ride in that regard.
I am 100% with Dan and Curt on this, in theory.
The cable and telephone companies
People getting their internet through a telco are already being taxed, Comcast
has been getting a free ride in that regard.
Curt,
You are right, except that going forward the governments (state and
local) will now have the authority and justification to add more taxes. If you
want
Incorrect on every point.
Curt,
Sorry, but I think you are incorrect on every point. I hope you
remember how much better and cheaper phone service would be if it was just all
deregulated. And natural gas. And everything else where our wonderful
government has gotten involved.
A would suggest that if anyone here wants to see one of the most monopolistic
ISP/telco arrangements in the country they look at West Virginia. Frontier has
a death grip on the state's infrastructure and controls it ruthlessly, as well
as the legislature.
I'm sure if you look in the Google
I'm no IT expert, but spent 32 years as a US Govt. employee. I am familiar
with govt. doublespeak, so fully comprehend what Net Neutrality actually
means.
What little has been leaked out about the regulations mentioned that the FCC
would require that material on the internet would be required to
It is as much about that as the ACA is about healthcare. (only
makes it worse and way more costly) THat is why you can't read it.
Oppose it.
Favor it or do nothing: you will get worse service for a lot more money
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:19 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
People getting their internet through a telco are already being taxed,
Comcast has been getting a free ride in that regard.
Curt,
You are right, except that going forward the governments (state and
Help us understand why anything is incorrect. Have you read the 300+
pages of the regulations that were voted on? It is my understanding
that the proposed regs had not been released to the public (by the most
transparent administration in history) so it would be kinda hard to know
what it
Draft regulations were out for public review and have been vetted. Final
regulations are edited and completed for forwarding to Congress 60 days after
the FCC approves them, I believe.
One of the concerns is that the dissenting committee members will take a long
time or stonewall on turning
A would suggest that if anyone here wants to see one of the most monopolistic
ISP/telco arrangements in the country they look at West Virginia. Frontier has
a death grip on the state's infrastructure and controls it ruthlessly, as well
as the legislature.
Dan,
I think you need to
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
It is as much about that as the ACA is about healthcare. (only makes it
worse and way more costly) THat is why you can't read it.
Oppose it.
Favor it or do nothing: you will get worse service for a lot more money
I
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