Re: [MBZ] Carrying a good idea to extremes

2005-08-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:25:05 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig... I wish a lot more listers would trim a lot of stuff.. Sure does get in the way Yes, indeed. Those who get the digest version greatly appreciate trimming. Thx... You're welcome.

Re: [MBZ] Carrying a good idea to extremes

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
I know I am going to get flamed for this, but ... With GMail for free and so tailor-made for these lists, and with maybe 50% of the MBZ folks using GMail, why is anyone using digest anyway?

[MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-NO-RESERVE-1986-MERCEDES-BENZ-500SEL-ONE-OWNER-56K-ORIGINAL-MILES_W0QQitemZ4569080755QQcategoryZ6332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,

[MBZ] 1981 280E with 5 speed manual

2005-08-17 Thread meadedillon
Dieselvolk, In my desperate current desparate state (no AC in my wagon) I'm considering the purchase of subject named automobile. Price is right, lady is selling it due to an electrical problem, description of condition indicates a decent runner with working AC. No idea on the mileage, I'll

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
Well I donĀ“t know if it is cheep? I live in a village, Bucerias, about 20km north of Puerto Vallarta. Those tax dudes just doubled my annual taxes to $65 US$ per year and that includes water, sewer, and 3 times a week garbage pick up. On 8/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
Ya well I get my retirement checks deposited in a US bank and I pull the money out as I need it from a ATM no charge, plus the US bank pays a little interest and N/C checking. On 8/16/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trust me, the thought has crossed my mind a time or two. My retirement

Re: [MBZ] hi-mile 140

2005-08-17 Thread RELNGSON
John Freer indignantly answers my post about the 140 previously discussed: Roger, you gotta be kiddin'! You mean to say that all them 500 engined MB's have engine guts problems? Oh those poor folks in their SL500's and E500's... Seems to me I recently read a post from Herr Ritter over on

Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E with 5 speed manual

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieselvolk, In my desperate current desparate state (no AC in my wagon) I'm considering the purchase of subject named automobile. Price is right, lady is selling it due to an electrical problem, description of condition indicates a decent runner with working AC. No

Re: [MBZ] hi-mile 140

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
ARRRG Now I've gotta go thrown in a new pair of contact lenses! Get thee behind me Satan! On 8/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer indignantly answers my post about the 140 previously discussed: Seems to me I recently read a

Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E with 5 speed manual

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
Bring me your wagon. No AC needed here.

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
Find me a computer job in an English speaking environment. On 8/16/05, Don Teresa Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya well I get my retirement checks deposited in a US bank and I pull the money out as I need it from a ATM no charge, plus the US bank pays a little interest and N/C checking.

Re: [MBZ] tranny rebuild video

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Nick Wellinghoff wrote: Wonder if this is any good. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Transmission-rebuild-Video-DVD-VHS-CD-diesel_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34227QQitemZ7992729820QQrdZ1 it would be nice if it was free. This seems to be Dan's video - Dan Charnews PO Box 243

Re: [MBZ] Extremes

2005-08-17 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Lt. Don, No flame intended and I don't get the digest.I do get the digest version from that other list Same complaint there... When multiple posts are included the repetition and redundancy gets bothersome.. I guess I have reached the age where I can classify myself

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
LT Don wrote: Find me a computer job in an English speaking environment. That seems to be India and much of Central America according to many outsourcers. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] tranny rebuild video

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote: $50 doesn't seem out of line to me for 3+ hours of video on rebuilding a 722.315 transmission. Marshall Dan offered the video to list members for $35 in February! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling

Re: [MBZ] hi-mile 140

2005-08-17 Thread Desert Rat
Nah, I'm done Roger but only because you didn't understand what I was saying. OK, here's a one liner: MB V8 engines have always had a quirk or 2 about them and evaporator issues in the early 90's was across the MB line and both these issues were NOT limited to the W140 class. Oh, and the folding

Re: [MBZ] tranny rebuild video

2005-08-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
The offer is still good. I just received my video from Dan yesterday for $39 shipped. Started watching it last night. On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:59:31 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: $50 doesn't seem out of line to me for 3+ hours of video on

[MBZ] Talking about engine swaps, BMW in a G-Wagon?

2005-08-17 Thread RAH
Wouldn't it have been easier to put in a 617? Anyone know of a real 4dr 300GD with a 5sp for sale? Russ H.

[MBZ] FWD: Virus-as Trend Micro sees it

2005-08-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
Here's how it works. --- Forwarded message --- From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Trend Micro Medium Risk Virus Alert - WORM_ZOTOB.D and WORM_RBOT.CBQ Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:51:59 -0500 --- Trend Micro Newsletters Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[MBZ] Talking about engine swaps, BMW in a G-Wagon?

2005-08-17 Thread RAH
Wouldn't it have been easier to put in a 617? Anyone know of a real 4dr 300GD with a 5sp for sale? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-Mercedes-Benz-300GD_W0QQitemZ4568091707QQcategoryZ31854QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen experimentation begins...oil detergents?

2005-08-17 Thread David Brodbeck
Christopher McCann wrote: The only thing I'm wondering about is: 1) the effect of burning oil detergents in the engine 2) what do you get when you burn synthetic oil? plastic? The oil furnaces burn it fine, so I think it should be OK. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I don't

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
Naw, wouldn't want to do that. We get paid per body, either daily rate or hourly rate. On 8/16/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: Which explains why I am in my current career field, doesn't it? No one wants to outsource the mentally retarded and the mentally ill to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Replacing 1999 Chevy Malibu V6 alternator

2005-08-17 Thread David Brodbeck
Potter, Tom E wrote: Like I said: GM works to find ways to make things difficult. They found out that the older GM alternators (85 Buick, etc.) were too easy for us to replace--had to fix that. They could learn something from Honda, if that's their goal. The alternator replacement procedure

Re: [MBZ] canadians are on crack

2005-08-17 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: Arizona and Northern Cali look damn good to me, about 8 months of the year, but I'd need a job with secure health care Doesn't exist in the U.S. Even if the job is secure, the health care never is. In every job I've had, the coverage got worse and more expensive

Re: [MBZ] Blower motor

2005-08-17 Thread David Brodbeck
andrew strasfogel wrote: Yes...But is it normal for the low setting to be so low as to be almost imperceptible? I can't hear mine on low. I can feel the air coming out the dash vents, but the airflow is pretty low. At speed the ram air effect increases it a bit.

Re: [MBZ] tranny rebuild video

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, is that who had it? I was trying to buy one and emailed whoever was selling it and never heard back. Marshall Booth wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: $50 doesn't seem out of line to me for 3+ hours of video on rebuilding a 722.315 transmission. Marshall Dan offered the video to list

[MBZ] 1981 280E

2005-08-17 Thread meadedillon
OK, parly answere my own question, 123.033 was available at dealerships if the MBUSA EPC is correct, with M110.984 engine. Looks like it was carburated. However, EPC does not indicate that a manual transmission was available, so this car still may be a euro. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread OK Don
My first thought was - how do the euro 500 and the US 560 engines actually compare? HP and Torque? Then I wondered if you ever got that 500Euro into the Teal body - how did it go? Nice driver? or is it like my 450 re-build - still underway. On 8/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[MBZ] 87 300TD wagon in Charleston, SC

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Massmann
LCDR Meade M. Dillon Did you see this on Ebay, it is local to you. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4568616264 Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 205K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel) - Original

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
But it may not be a bad idea-maybe you should champion it. Hen I worked in Mental Health we had a county commissioner who said that a year on a cruise ship was cheaper than a year in our MH facilities. Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] Extremes

2005-08-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:57:48 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Undecided if I want to take the northern route I-70 thru Denver or the standard I-40 more direct, southern route... If you take I-70 to Denver and then I-25 south, you end up going through Santa Fe, which isn't

[MBZ] OM616 diagnosis... need some voices of experience here

2005-08-17 Thread Steve MacSween
I've been asking questions about engine transplants and such, and it occurs to me that perhaps I should back up and fill in the details of my story I received two weeks ago the w123 240d that I got off eBay back in late June, from Texas. The car was listed as having a bad engine, seller said

Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd

2005-08-17 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here actually DONE this? Pls e-mail me offlist, I have some questions I thought I made it clear that I have actually done this in several previous emails. That's why I have a 240D/3.0. Oh, you no doubt did make it clear. My brain is bubbling over

Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, parly answere my own question, 123.033 was available at dealerships if the MBUSA EPC is correct, with M110.984 engine. Looks like it was carburated. However, EPC does not indicate that a manual transmission was available, so this car still may be a euro.

Re: [MBZ] Extremes

2005-08-17 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Craig... Will crank that into the equation.. A lot depends on how well the old girl handles being driven hard and put away wet at the driving events in TOR. VIR is a 3.25 mile road course... Been there before and it is a wonderful drive. Then there's Autocross and

[MBZ] Old cars for your garage

2005-08-17 Thread redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91522990.html --85 SD $2600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91469774.html --77 280e $999 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91478655.html --71 220 gasser $1800 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/91454155.html --79 240D $1500

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Desert Rat
The US 500 (84 and 85) had 184 hp and the 560 had 238 hp. Don't have torque or Euro figures. On 8/16/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first thought was - how do the euro 500 and the US 560 engines actually compare? HP and Torque? Then I wondered if you ever got that 500Euro into the

[MBZ] Carfax?

2005-08-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Can somebody do a carfax on WDBDB22A9EA082484? It should be a second owner 190D... Thanks -Curt - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
Don, computers don't speak English. Actually, neither do most folks in the USA. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:45

Re: [MBZ] diesel prices

2005-08-17 Thread Slozukimc
In a message dated 8/16/2005 10:48:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it may not be a bad idea-maybe you should champion it. Hen I worked in Mental Health we had a county commissioner who said that a year on a cruise ship was cheaper than a year in our MH facilities.

Re: [MBZ] OM617 into 240d with 4-spd

2005-08-17 Thread Dan Sandy Steadman
Juan, Metro Atlanta has lots of yards. At one time, Atlanta had the fourth largest population of Mercedes in the US. There are two Pull-A-Part self service yards in Atlanta; one on the south side (Conley) and one on the west side (Norcross). They charge a dollar admission and you can stroll

[MBZ] (no subject)

2005-08-17 Thread Donald Snook
Marshall wrote: Meade, By definition a 123.033 280E in '77-'85 had a fuel injected engine - that's what the E stood for, but it wasn't available in the US! The 110.988 engine had mechanical injection using CIS injection control, 9:1 compression, made 185 hp (DIN that's about 182 SAE hp)

Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

2005-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
So Curt-think you will buy it? Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Carfax? Can somebody

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Joe Knight
Nitske lists the 560 specs, both euro US. Euro: 300 hp (DIN); 455 Nm; 10:1 compression; 7.2sec 0-100 km/hr US:238 hp (SAE); 287 ft/lb (389 Nm); 9:1 compression; 8.0sec 0-60mph 500: Euro: 240 hp (DIN); 296 ft/[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 8.8:1 compression US:184 hp (SAE); 247 ft/[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] holy shit, this car rocks

2005-08-17 Thread Rich Thomas
You know, I was just thinking about vegetable oil, right before I thought about money. Funny how that works, huh? --R Christopher McCann wrote: Coming to work this morning...closing on a house today...utilities, mail, money, work, vegetable oil, wife, kids...the things we all think

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Bucks2
I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am skeptical that they fail all that

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Bucks2
I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am skeptical that they fail all that

Re: [MBZ] 140 woes

2005-08-17 Thread Bucks2
I'll second the great ride of the 220, it is mahvelous. But, driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are? No damn wonder traffic in Seattle is so backed up all the time from accidents. Roger is driving. ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 6:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: [MBZ] 140 woes

2005-08-17 Thread Bucks2
I'll second the great ride of the 220, it is mahvelous. But, driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are? No damn wonder traffic in Seattle is so backed up all the time from accidents. Roger is driving. ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 6:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: [MBZ] OM616 diagnosis... need some voices of experience here

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
Steve, My recommendation would be to perform a valve adjustment and then a leak down test. If the issue is a burned valve, you will know it by the sound of air escaping through the intake or exhaust. It is rare for these motors to eat a piston to the point where you have zero compression, but

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Desert Rat wrote: The US 500 (84 and 85) had 184 hp and the 560 had 238 hp. Don't have torque or Euro figures. The high compression Euro 117.96x engine in the 500s developed 231 DIN hp/405 Nm torque vs an early lower compression (9:1) US 117.968 KAT of the 560 that developed 242 DIN hp/390

Re: [MBZ] holy shit, this car rocks

2005-08-17 Thread Christopher McCann
You'd have to have read my post from the other day on the A-1 Barrel company and my alternative fuel project for that to have made any sense. Looking back, that's a pretty funny sentence. CM --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I was just thinking about vegetable oil, right

[MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
I am hoping to receive my new shutoff valve from Rusty today/tomorrow and am anxious to do the intallation. Even though I fully understand that if you do this job right there is no danger of destroying the engine due to a run-away, I want to be prepared for a worst case scenerio. Will someone

[MBZ] 72 250 no vacuum advance

2005-08-17 Thread Mike Boerner
George, I shifted gears on you here. THIS page 00-7 is in the 250S manual. Sorry Should I be able to blow compressed air throught them? any easy way to activate? SORRY, SHORT OF TIME TODAY. JOB 00-74/8 SHOULD ANSWER MORE THAN I CAN, IF THE 250S PUB IS CLOSE TO THE SAME. IT LOOKS LIKE PAGE 00-7

Re: [MBZ] 1981 280E with 5 speed manual

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
This car is a Euro car unless someone converted it after the fact. Should it still be in true Euro form, this will be a very nice machine. I have always wanted one of these w/ a 5 speed. Of course it should be injected being an E. For reference, my 280slc with 4 speed manual gets about 22-23

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Like the big stop button on the throttle linkage? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/17/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I forgetting something that is easier?

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The euro 5.0 is 240hp, the US 5.6 is 238. The euro 5.6 is 300hp, maybe more. The engine is out of the teal car, the new engine is ready to drop in, just have not done it yet. OK Don wrote: My first thought was - how do the euro 500 and the US 560 engines actually compare? HP and Torque?

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread dave walton
Is this the correct tool? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Double-Row-Timing-Chain-Press-Repair-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ4568203046 -Dave Walton On 8/17/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
What he means is when the stop button won't work. A dire emergency. Don, do this: 1: Put the new valve back in place 2: Leave all 4 bolts loose about 1/8-1/4 3: Apply vacuum with MightyVac and watch valve suck itself into the IP and pull the stop lever down. 4: Tightenen everything down. 5:

[MBZ] (no subject)

2005-08-17 Thread John S. Hoke
Hi all new to list, need some parts for my white ext palomino interior 89 300te. as follows: bottom only of third rear seat back seat headrests vacume actusator for gas door original first aid kit cargo cover source for replacment stick on wood kit performance items for engine thanks Rocky

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
Personally, I like to loosen the injector lines from the injectors, pull a vacuum with a mity-vac on the shut off valve, and then crank the motor. If the valve is seated correctly there should be no fuel coming from the pump. If there is fuel, it should be a good amount, and then, yes, the

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
No, I think the emergency stop doesn't work if the shutoff valve isn't in correctly.

Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 2.2l VIN WDBDB22A9EA082484 Body Style 4 Door Sedan 4-s Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBDB22A9EA082484 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Chuck Landenberger
On Aug 17, 2005, at 8:06 AM, dave walton wrote: Is this the correct tool? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Double-Row-Timing-Chain- Press-Repair-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ4568203046 -Dave Walton Dave, Yes, that is the tool. Pretty steep price, tho. Used to be available for

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
On US motors the STOP button does not move. This will only apply to Euro motors and the later pumps in the 60X motors. At 11:11 AM 8/17/2005, you wrote: What he means is when the stop button won't work. A dire emergency. Don, do this: 1: Put the new valve back in place 2: Leave all 4 bolts

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
It does not work in that case. At 11:11 AM 8/17/2005, you wrote: No, I think the emergency stop doesn't work if the shutoff valve isn't in correctly.

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have never seen one fail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch/clip on master link failure

2005-08-17 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 8/17/2005 7:18:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing?

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2005-08-17 Thread LT Don
See the for used parts email at the bottom of your email. If Kleb doesn't already have it he will steal a car and strip it down for you. On 8/17/05, John S. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all new to list, need some parts for my white ext palomino interior 89 300te. as follows:

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
BenzBarn wrote: You need to remember that DIN is higher than SAE. I think it's about 250 DIN or around 275 HP SAE. From the '85 TDM Metric (DIN) hp = 0.7355499 kW vs SAE hp = 74570 kW. From online converter 1 horsepower [metric] = 0.9863201 horsepower [international] If you ignore the

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch/clip on master link failure

2005-08-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
Say on this, who has the tool and can we have a "list loaner" with it? I think I have 1 or 2 that need to be changed. Will be checking chain stretch tonight. Luther-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 17, 2005 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
LT Don wrote: I am hoping to receive my new shutoff valve from Rusty today/tomorrow and am anxious to do the intallation. Even though I fully understand that if you do this job right there is no danger of destroying the engine due to a run-away, I want to be prepared for a worst case scenerio.

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
dave walton wrote: Is this the correct tool? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Double-Row-Timing-Chain-Press-Repair-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ4568203046 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Double-Row-Timing-Chain-Press-Repair-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ4568203046 That's quite a

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch/clip on master link failure

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/17/2005 7:18:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch/clip on master link failure

2005-08-17 Thread BenzBarn
I use a ball peen hammer. Never had one fail or come apart. Dan

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Joe Knight
I bought some little tool from this guy a yr or so ago. As I remember he did deliver pretty much as advertised. Isn't this one of the guys that was/is offering the Klann knockoff spring compressor? joe

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
I picked my tool up for about $150 on EBay used a few years back. I have seen them go for as little a $100. I believe Rusty used to have one of these available for rent. Rusty? When it comes to doing these timing chains, please use the tool and have the peace of mind. Yes, the chain can be

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone please review for me the ways to quickly kill the engine if disaster should strike? The ones that come to mind are firing a CO2 fire extinguisher into or stuffing a towel into the air cleaner. Push down all the way on the (vertical) linkage rod that

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch

2005-08-17 Thread Bucks2
Thank you Marshall, you're the first person I've found who has actually seen one. I've asked the question on several sites and no one else has ever replied that they have seen it happen. As recently as 2002 the replacement chain I got from our favorite Georgia supplier was the clip type. I

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone please review for me the ways to quickly kill the engine if disaster should strike? The ones that come to mind are firing a CO2 fire extinguisher into or stuffing a towel into the air cleaner. Push down all the way on the

Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

2005-08-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Thanks Kaleb. That does alot to confirm the story I was told about the car... Based on that I'm still going to try and bring the guy down another $500... -Curt Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:18:51 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax? To: Mercedes mailing list

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread John Ervine
Steve MacSween wrote: Push down all the way on the (vertical) linkage rod that actually works on the injector pump. Or was that pull up? No, must be down. (Can't go out and look, car is not here.) The STOP button does that anyway, no? If your stop button does not work then you have a major

[MBZ] holy crap, antifreeze has gone up

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Was checking the various parts websites and mb antifreeze has gone up to 21 a gallon. Will have to locate some zerex g05 locally. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D,

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
The towel or the fire extinguisher work fine. I have used both. Some marine GM diesels had a flapper in the intake manifold for emergency shutoff. I had a LARGE Sulzer run away with me once (broken shaft in the injector pump distributor). Luckily it had a cutout on EACH injector. I pulled all the

Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch/clip on master link failure

2005-08-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote: I don't believe that the number of failed clips was especially high (less than a few percent) over the life of the replacement chains (many may well have been from improper installation), but Mercedes decided that was WAY too many so they abolished the clip in the '80s.

Re: [MBZ] holy crap, antifreeze has gone up

2005-08-17 Thread J.B. Hebert
Yeah... just talked to Tom at buymbparts.com who said it's jumped about $10 in a year. No one knows why, especially since it's made in the USA so no shipping from Germany. I should have stockpiled when it was cheap. :( J.B. At 01:01 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: Was checking the various parts

Re: [MBZ] OM616 diagnosis... need some voices of experience here

2005-08-17 Thread Richard Hattaway
Steve, I agree with Mathieu, and you should also get another compression tester if you plan to use that test again. You're looking at a 34:1 compression ratio in the #2 jug, and I don't think that is what is really going on! If you dont have a leakdown tester, then maybe you can find an old

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread 72benz250
How bout a home made kill switch? Take a fuse that will fit for your fuel pump. burn it. solder it to a swith w/ an inline fuse -- Original message -- The towel or the fire extinguisher work fine. I have used both. Some marine GM diesels had a flapper in the intake

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread J.B. Hebert
That would be great on a VW diesel, but most MB diesels have a mechanical fuel pump. J.B. At 01:29 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: How bout a home made kill switch? Take a fuse that will fit for your fuel pump. burn it. solder it to a swith w/ an inline fuse -- Original message

Re: [MBZ] holy crap, antifreeze has gone up

2005-08-17 Thread 72benz250
forgive my ignorance but what is so special about MB AF? is zerex g05 the manufacturer of the MB AF? Thanks George -- Original message -- Was checking the various parts websites and mb antifreeze has gone up to 21 a gallon. Will have to locate some zerex g05

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
These diesels do not have electronic fuel pumps. Once started, these motors needs no electricity to stay running. It would be nice if it were that simple. Mathieu At 01:29 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: How bout a home made kill switch? Take a fuse that will fit for your fuel pump. burn it.

Re: [MBZ] fairly nice euro 126

2005-08-17 Thread Jeff Zedic
Marshall, I thought the way they were measured for horsepower output was quite different. In the US the measure from the end of the crankshaft, the Euros measure from the driving wheels. Fair amount of mechanical loss that way, no? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2005-08-17 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
Why no subject? On 8/17/05, John S. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all new to list, need some parts for my white ext palomino interior 89 300te. as follows: bottom only of third rear seat back seat headrests vacume actusator for gas door original first aid kit cargo cover

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread TimothyPilgrim
So my VW diesel will stop running eventually if I unhook the battery? All I really need my battery for in the MB is to start it up. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/17/05, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These diesels do not have electronic fuel pumps. Once started, these motors needs no

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread J.B. Hebert
All the diesel VW's I've seen have electric fuel pumps, so I would assume that no juice means no vroom. Some models may be different, however. J.B. At 02:06 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: So my VW diesel will stop running eventually if I unhook the battery? All I really need my battery for in the

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-17 Thread Dave M.
What you see on eBay at that link is a cheap copy tool, not the genuine Mercedes tool (which is made by Iwis, btw, the chain manufacturer). The cheap eBay tool will not press on the middle plate for the new OE style master links, the genuine tool (with appropriate jaws) will. (The aftermarket

Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures

2005-08-17 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
Tim, You've got it. The shut off stops fuel flow. Mathieu At 02:29 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: I've found the manual shutoff for the VW TDI engine. It's similar to my MB 617, but it doesn't have the big red stop sign on it. I understand that it shuts off the fuel flow. That's how the MB shutoff

Re: [MBZ] holy crap, antifreeze has gone up

2005-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forgive my ignorance but what is so special about MB AF? It's the right stuff. Correct ph balance, low silicates. is zerex g05 the manufacturer of the MB AF? Zerex makes it in the USA, and sells it as G-05.

[MBZ] Disel Purge diagram

2005-08-17 Thread nwell
Does anyone have a scan of the graphical diagram for using diesel purge that used to come with it? Thanks, Nick

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