Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin J. Slater
No conspiracy; it was just the typical misunderstood statistical study. The original only attempted to determine the efficacy of DRL at dusk, which in the Nordic countries happens for a greater proportion of the day than it does here far below the artic circle, and probably a fair bit more than

Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Yes, this would also explain the Army's experiments with fitting a row of bright lights on top of desert tanks to make them more visible to the enemy.. ...Kevin ernest breakfield said: while traveling in the Deserts, it's clear that vehicles with headlights on are much more visible

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread Rich Thomas
I liked the pair of 100watters on my old truck, had them aimed right at the windshield of oncoming cars to cross at 100ft, when the Bimmer drivers (who all seem to like to leave the aux lights on all the time, aimed too high) got a shot of those they felt my pain. Those lights would throw a

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a

Re: [MBZ] W126 300SD power seats almost done!

2006-11-28 Thread kevin kraly
Hi, Dennis. I didn't realize you were referring to the color of the seat and not the color code on the wiring! DUH! My dad says that he can't distinguish the color of the new seats with the old ones, and this was with the old passenger's seat still in place. Noone else has looked at the

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread Jeff Zedic
To make matters worse, some of these lights are tinted blue, which creates even more scattering and glare than a normal headlamp. Funny you should talk about glarethose DOT lamps are such total shitthe other day I was sitting in traffic and compred the beam pattern from my 124 Euro

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Jeff Zedic wrote: I know that I don't have any glare problems when I'm driving at night in the UK. I still wonder why the USDOT wants us all to be blind at night! I think they've based their syandard on some 50 year old nonsense..AGAIN! That's pretty much it. They claim the European

Re: [MBZ] HID beam patterns

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
Now they're collecting glare complains about HID lights, with the idea they might have to do something to about those.  I suspect the problem could be solved with a decent beam pattern, but I don't know if they're seriously examining that option or not. The HID headlights in my car

Re: [MBZ] HID beam patterns

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Frederick
The HID headlamps bother me even in the daytime, and especially off-axis. I see them as very purple, and they are demon bright -- enough that I have to look away even in daylight. I'm bothered by cars in the daylight on the other side of a divided highway, for instance. I suspect the real

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist
I prefer the term Merkins, myself. On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish

Re: [MBZ] Differences between '82 and 84-85 OM617s?

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet, but the '85 Cal-spec OM617 sitting in my garage (waiting for a vehicle) has a completely different intake and exhaust manifold setup, so the downpipe would need to be modified, if run in an earlier vehicle (or just swap over all those parts from the early

[MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system

2006-11-28 Thread OK Don
Nope - still have it. My wife didn't want to sell it, and found $$ to pay for the heat pump. The PBU was working for several weeks, then decided to do it's own thing again - sometimes cold, sometimes hot - will turn it's self on after you've pushed the off button, etc. I've re-soldered the PBU

Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo

2006-11-28 Thread OK Don
Ouch. Seems those Enzo's always split in half when encountering trees and the such - wonder if that's a design feature? Gets the engine away from the passengers? Not that it did him much good --- On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo

2006-11-28 Thread tom savage
In related news, Carrera GT meets telephone pole in NY: http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31654 Tom

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread ernest breakfield
David, David Brodbeck wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: back to the point; since fog lights are additional light sources and aimed lower than headlights, fogs shouldn't cause any more dazzle, and use of them does help increase conspicuity (especially those of a different color).

[MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE

2006-11-28 Thread Tarek Elshenawy
All, I am putting my car up for sale. The details are listed below, including information from the data card along with my own personal notes: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL VIN: WDBCB25D8HA329743 Mileage: 249,340 Paint Code: 623 [Light Ivory] Interior Code: 273 [Brazil] Additional Options: 412

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Roger! if you think i can't make fun of a group that we're a part of, then we have very different senses of humor, and/or you're too easily offended/demeaned, and/or you don't understand the freedoms of expression and the right to not necessarily blindly agree with government that our

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE

2006-11-28 Thread Tarek Elshenawy
Asking $3,500. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tarek Elshenawy Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:37 PM To: 'Banned List'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE All, I am putting my car up for

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Cathey
of course, more simply, just don't look at the silly things! That is difficult to do, and half of the definition of 'glare' is the reduction in contrast of the _entire_ visual field due to scatter in the optics. (That would be your eye, and the windshield.) Dodge trucks and Subarus have

Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Cathey
switches with deoxit, etc. before installing. This time I'm going to remove the old solder and replace with new instead of just melting the old like I did last time. If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps,

Re: [MBZ] Trim adhesive

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Cathey
1. What is the proper adhesive to use to replace these pieces? I've tried weatherstrip adhesive, and Shoe Goo. Not very good results over time with either. 3. Is it real wood? Yes. 4. If I get lazy and don't re-apply these pieces, is there a market for them? Only if they're not

Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Since about 1993 we have had a law in Oz that motorbikes have to have their headlights wired to come on when the ignition is turned on. Since the mid-70's in the States. I know I got stopped by the cops in high school in about '77 or '78, on my '73 Honda that didn't have it wired on

Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Ah, so now he tells me... On 11/27/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it. Reheating old crystalline oxidized joints is an exercise

Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners

2006-11-28 Thread Tyler Backman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I disagree. I think headlights should be left on at all times, as it helps other drivers see your car even in daylight, preventing people from pulling out too early, etc. Headlights are not bright enough to cause visibility problems for other

Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system

2006-11-28 Thread Tyler Backman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Actually, if any significant amount of old solder is left, you didn't do it right. The old solder should be removed with a solder wick or vacuum (both available at radio shack) and replaced entirely. I would also use a small amount of

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd

Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote: Ouch. Seems those Enzo's always split in half when encountering trees and the such - wonder if that's a design feature? Gets the engine away from the passengers? Not that it did him much good --- I suspect they're following the same design theory as Indy and F1 cars. The idea is

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread siteforum
Gents, Two a week ago i had addressed to the mercedeslist.com forum a very simple question about a problem with the Ke-jetronic system in my W124/300E - 91 and received a very small feedback, near nothing. Maybe i'm asking at the wrong place - never knows, but i would like to ask to this

Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system

2006-11-28 Thread OK Don
Yup - I can attest to the accuracy of that statement! I've un-earthed my trusty Paladin solder sucker - will attack the PBU soon! If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it.

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Canfield
Yeah Phillip.What you said. Mike New York - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield

Re: [MBZ] Clutch shudder

2006-11-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:44:09 -0600 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will also need to have the flywheel resurfaced flat. And the dimension 'a' adjusted to spec. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE

2006-11-28 Thread kevin kraly
That's a pretty good price for your SDL! I've got just over a third of that (roughly 1600) into my '83 300SD, and I anticipate putting a few hundred more into it for shocks and brakes. i'm sure it will need guide rod bushings or a ball joint or two in time due to its odometer mileage. Kevin

Re: [MBZ] Xenon

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
Beam pattern is secondary, unless they are the old single beam type, where they are indeed high beam only. The single beam types are of course low beam only. My '01's original low beam only lamps were updated to bi-xenons which requires a replacement of the entire lamp assembly at some cost

Re: [MBZ] Xenon

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Frederick
Cataracts cause white fog glare, the Xenon lamps cause me to close my eyes in pain. It's hard to describe -- they are so bright they cause afterimage spots in the daytime for me. And for a young (25 years old) friend, also all three of my brothers. I do see bee violet as pale yellow, though

[MBZ] 300d FLYWHEEL

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Merle
Does anyone have access to a loose 300D OM617 flywheel - I'm looking for the dimension 'a' amd the casting no at th eback . I have a casting no of 6170320001 with a 19.5 mm recess dimension 'a'. Not sure if its an original 300D flywheel or perhaps it's a M110 flywheel! PEter

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread V Layton
I'm sure the last thing a Canadian wants to be called is an American. (We're the imperialistic scum of the earth, don't you know?) Those in Mexico just aim for US citizenship, and everyone south of that has their own country name. American is just a leftover common term no one else wanted,

Re: [MBZ] 300D 5-speed

2006-11-28 Thread John Peterson
I have seen these 5 speed transmissions, sometimes rebuilt ones, on ebay.de I would like to know if anyone has done a conversion. I'd love to have a 300D 2.5 5 speed. What fun. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k tom savage wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: what's the problem? Le probleme

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE

2006-11-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Seems underpriced to me but then again, it has history that would scare away most potential buyers who don't know the value of these cars. On 11/28/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty good price for your SDL! I've got just over a third of that (roughly 1600) into my '83

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread OK Don
The Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management book by Probst (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8s=books) is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You will need the

[MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?

2006-11-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only

Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?

2006-11-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
We had a great time here. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:57 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? I've noticed on a

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread LarryT
Along with Tom P's suggestions about finding/fixing vacuum leaks, make sure the ignition system is 100% perfect before tinkering with the settings on the injection system. Often people jump to the fuel delivery system when the ignition system is at fault. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74

Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Rentfro
Some people figure if someone has a different view than theirs it's either a personal attack on them or the person is stupid and wrong. These same people become bold when sitting at a key board interacting with people they will, most likely, never see face to face. I will enjoy the big pile of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?

2006-11-28 Thread Chris Kueny
Thanks for the 'lectricity. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? Some people figure if someone has a

[MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread Alan Duff
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Cathey
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread Gary Hurst
the kids are all right here. vacuum, vacuum, vacuum. system gets old and leaky and messed up and makes the CIS-E go nuts. so with the ignition gone nuts, people start to look to the ignition for the solution. but it ain't the first place to look, but maybe the last place to look. slight

[MBZ] lights (was: Re: Funny boo boo among MB owners)

2006-11-28 Thread ernest breakfield
Jim Cathey wrote: of course, more simply, just don't look at the silly things! That is difficult to do, and half of the definition of 'glare' is the reduction in contrast of the _entire_ visual field due to scatter in the optics. (That would be your eye, and the windshield.) i

[MBZ] OT Junkyard ECMs

2006-11-28 Thread Trampas
I am in need of some computers and wiring harness from various cars to test my OBDII device. Unfortunately with all the other stuff in my life I have not had time to go to junk yard and get the parts myself. Does anyone know of a place to order the parts and have them shipped? Specifically I

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Christopher McCann
I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from American,

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Canfield
Well I guess not knowing what to call himself would be a good way to tell.You set yourself up for that one...LOL US Citizen would be what I say. Mike - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Heh heh, I like Users...says it all. On 11/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote: The Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management book by Probst (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8s=books) is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You

Re: [MBZ] lights

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
ernest breakfield wrote: i don't find it difficult to look at the road instead of oncoming lights,... why would it be difficult? it's not like my eyes are drawn to overly bright lights. I find it helps to deliberately look towards the right shoulder when going past cars with HID lamps,

Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS

2006-11-28 Thread Christopher McCann
It's true that US Americans are, on the average, ignorant of anything beyond the USA. But that is mostly due to our geography. I drove 17 hours from Kansas City to Greeneville, SC. There are regional differences, but pretty much the same. 897 miles...1,440 km. Now Barcelona, Spain to

Re: [MBZ] SLS suspension fluid substitutes

2006-11-28 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, good idea! There's one of them on every corner!Isn't Citroen the stuff they put in fruitcake to make it taste bad? At 04:10 PM 11/25/2006, you wrote: There's a Pentosin substitue but I can't be exact on the number of it. You can definitely get the correct stuff from your local

Re: [MBZ] Glasses

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
In my case this is complicated a little by the fact that my glasses have a bit of a chromic aberration -- bright blue objects aren't focused to the same point as other colors, causing them to have an out-of-focus 'halo' around them. I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and

Re: [MBZ] Tension? Naaah.

2006-11-28 Thread RELNGSON
Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. If she drives an elderly diesel MB, frets about her ALDA, oil leaks, flex disks, driveshaft bearings, CV joints and vacuum leaks, that might work. Otherwise, consider it all

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread LarryT
As JimC noted, MBs are designed to have their oil removed by suction thru the dipstick tube. I read recently in a MB publication the MB engineers started designing this system in the mid 70s and it's perfected now - *all* the oil comes out thru the dipstick leaving none - as it is meant to.

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread Werner Fehlauer
LarryT - except for cars with oil coolers, which don't drain back to the engine sump. Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah I'm working my way through the Probst book at the moment, however to test a jetronic system you need a fuel pressure test kit with two gauges to see the difference between the fuel pressures in the system. - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread Alan Duff
Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread R A Bennell
Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Thanks for all the replies concerning

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Alan, From all my experience on a variety of MB's, the Oil Drain Plug is a 13mm hex, not an Allen wrench. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:38 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy

[MBZ] OT Mazda RX7

2006-11-28 Thread Donald Snook
My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. I know nothing about these cars. Does anyone have any experience with these. The car is on ebay. My brother does not do ANY maintenance, so if this requires constant tinkering it might not be the car for him. By

Re: [MBZ] Glasses

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the

Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

2006-11-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah I'm working my way through the Probst book at the moment, however to test a jetronic system you need a fuel pressure test kit with two gauges to see the difference between the fuel pressures in the system. Actually, one gauge and a valve will work. The valve

Re: [MBZ] Glasses

2006-11-28 Thread Sunil Hari
the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. $200 for a frame? you've GOT to be kidding. On 11/28/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] OT Mazda RX7

2006-11-28 Thread Sunil Hari
too old for a rotary engine - they have the habit of breaking a lot, and that was long before Mazda really got the wankel right. On 11/28/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. I know nothing about these cars.

Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug

2006-11-28 Thread R A Bennell
The easier answer, is that you buy the set and crawl under with the strip of them and the ratchet. A set often does not cost a whole lot more than buying the couple you need. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent:

[MBZ] Another seat repair question

2006-11-28 Thread R A Bennell
Have any of you folks given up on the spring box and gone to foam? The driver's side seat in my old 115 was a bit the worse for wear and I tore it apart last summer and rebuilt it somewhat. The springs seemed intact so I just changed out padding etc. I debated looking for a new horsehair pad

Re: [MBZ] Mazda RX7

2006-11-28 Thread Dan Weeks
My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. Is this the same brother that is also buying a woody wagon? :-) I know nothing about these cars. Does anyone have any experience with these. I spun one once. It gripped tenaciously until it suddenly decided to