Re: [MBZ] Lousy photography, was: Drool . . . WOW! What a nice car!

2007-05-23 Thread Zoltan Finks

I think that most of the people that are serious about cars would not be
affected much by photography issues. In fact, lush photos sort of make me
suspicious.

With houses, and with women car buyers, I think photography may be a bigger
issue?

brian


On 5/22/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



You got that right Glenn. When we were looking last year I found that you
couldn't tell ANYTHING about a house from the pictures.

Because of which we ended up looking at 3x as many houses as otherwise
because I knew the pictures told me nothing...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:31:18 -0400
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Regarding the Utah 300D you guys have been conversing about, I agree
it's an
extremely nice example but my contribution to the topic has to do with
the
fact that the owner/whoever took the time, etc. to take decent
photographs
and should help immensely in the sale of the car.  The reason I'm
pointing
this out is that, while I've been waiting for my house to sell, I've
been
perusing the I-net for houses in the area where I intend to move and
I'm
astounded at the lousy photography which many realtors apparently deem
acceptable to entice prospective buyers.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY


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Re: [MBZ] Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W-40

2007-05-23 Thread Sunil Hari

Delvac 1300 Super is what my friend's mom ran in her 300TD wagon for 250Kmi
until someone  rear-ended her and totaled the car.

On 5/22/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think it flows better than most dino oils, on my 89 300TE I
experience tappet noise which we decided
was the mobile 1 15w50 flowing too well and letting the worn lifter
collapse.

It was switched to QS 15w40 and the noise when away.

I switch it then to delvac 1300 super 15w40 and the noise came back...
So from that I figured the 1300 just flowed better than the QS.

Had about 400K km on it when I sold it.

On May 22, 2007, at 10:13 AM, Redghost wrote:

 I used it once as a transition oil in Gump going from the sludge when
 i got it to the second change out a thousand miles later to M1 Truck
 and SUV.  Worked well to lube what needed and help move the gunk
 out.  Guess I could have used anything

 clay

John
1983 300TDt  368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a liar on ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no, I mean even slower than that.  It will be geared for the turbo motor

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Don't be mean, that's all we get over here.

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Oh yea, it definatly does not have a turbo, although it is supposed to. 
 Clearly says turbodiesel on trunk and this is not a euro car so it 
should be turbo.  Looks like motor went bad and they stuck a non turbo 
engine in it.  I bet its REAL slow.




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Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Hans Neureiter

It goes nowadays a little further than that. You can set a max bid and
it will overbid anything below that, one bid at a time. But now you
have the option to set an amount to slap on a bid at the last second
to exceed it. To me, that is not an auction any longer. Its just plain
supporting creedy lazyy people with more money than brain.

On 5/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not really.  The fellow who is willing to pay $3k is bidding against
a fellow who was only willing to go to $2500.  At auction they would
be indicating to the auctioneer their inclination to go higher, but
the $3k guy would just keep his paddle in the air, such that any bid
that came along would always be superseded by his.  That is until he
chose to lower his paddle, which the fellow at $2500 did when he hit
his max.  Since the other fellow had primacy of bid (first bidder)
even if they both were willing to pay $2500, the first guy would win
the auction.  That would not fly at a live auction unless the first
bidder is absentee and then the auctioneer is taking bids in the name
of the absentee up to and including his full bid, such that the live
person bidding to $2500 would again lose out to the absentee.


On May 22, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

 Ah. That makes sense. The 2500 bid would be the current high bid,
 but it
 would go under the other guy's name. That sounds like it could be
 confusing
 to the poor guy who tried to bid 2500.

 Brian


 On 5/22/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The way I read this: The person who placed the $3,000 maximum will
 automatically match your 2500 bid, and because he placed his bid
 first
 he wins the tie.

 Caveat, my ebay experience is very limited, I've bought like 4 items
 on ebay over the last 6 years and never sold anything.

 Allan

 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Okay, I follow, but you lose me when you say that the standing
 bid goes
 up
 to 2500. That would mean that the person who bid 2500 would be
 the high
 bidder and could win the auction if no one bids higher.

 Do you perhaps mean that the system will ask you to bid a set
 increment
 higher than your attempted bid, until you top the highest max.
 bid from
 anyone else?

 Brian

 Hendrick wrote:
 For example say you reckon that non turbo 123 is hot stuff and
 you bid
 $2500
 and someone has already put in a maximum bid of $3000, then the
 standing
 bid
 will go up to $2500. Thus the person who bid $3000 may not have to
 actually
 pay $3000

 --
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 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W-40

2007-05-23 Thread Wonko the Sane

Well, that is what is now in my VW Quantum DT ... as of about a half hour
ago. I will switch back to Mobil 1 when the temps drop -- since Delvac 1300
15W-40 has a pour point of -22F (that's getting near to something to be
expected during an Iowa winter).

On 5/22/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Delvac 1300 Super is what my friend's mom ran in her 300TD wagon for
250Kmi
until someone  rear-ended her and totaled the car.

On 5/22/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it flows better than most dino oils, on my 89 300TE I
 experience tappet noise which we decided
 was the mobile 1 15w50 flowing too well and letting the worn lifter
 collapse.

 It was switched to QS 15w40 and the noise when away.

 I switch it then to delvac 1300 super 15w40 and the noise came back...
 So from that I figured the 1300 just flowed better than the QS.

 Had about 400K km on it when I sold it.

 On May 22, 2007, at 10:13 AM, Redghost wrote:

  I used it once as a transition oil in Gump going from the sludge when
  i got it to the second change out a thousand miles later to M1 Truck
  and SUV.  Worked well to lube what needed and help move the gunk
  out.  Guess I could have used anything
 
  clay

 John
 1983 300TDt  368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
 1990's 300TDt  172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Not really because the new bidder gets a notice to say that his 2500 bid was 
not enough to get top bid.

Then it's time to go up or walk away.

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Ah. That makes sense. The 2500 bid would be the current high bid, but it
would go under the other guy's name. That sounds like it could be 
confusing

to the poor guy who tried to bid 2500.

Brian






Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen
It's like everything else, if ebay don't pull their finger out and meet 
customer demand then they will overtaken by someone who does. Ebay does not 
have a monopoly on internet auctions but is dominant due to size.
Personally I would like to see a free auction site where advertisers pay the 
bill.


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It goes nowadays a little further than that. You can set a max bid and
it will overbid anything below that, one bid at a time. But now you
have the option to set an amount to slap on a bid at the last second
to exceed it. To me, that is not an auction any longer. Its just plain
supporting creedy lazyy people with more money than brain.





Re: [MBZ] Drool . . . WOW! What a nice car!

2007-05-23 Thread tom savage

Allan Streib wrote:

Sure seems to be in good condition -- but, a trip to the detail shop,
a good buffing, and lots of Armor-All on all the rubber and interior
are clearly evident.

Photos on a web page don't show a lot of fine detail -- something can
pretty easily be made to look better than it is.


I was thinking the same thing.  It is without doubt a nice car, but even 
better are the detailing and presentation.  I looked at the pics and 
found a few nitpicks, like paintwork and collision damage.  Think of 
this not as the usual crackBay sleazewad scammer we're so fond of here, 
but more as an object lesson in how to sell a car.  And scrutinize one 
before buying.


- Repainted, at least the front end
- Enamel is missing from the grille badge
- Dent in LF wheel arch
- Sand sparkle in grille and mirrors
- Front valance has been banged up and repaired
- Scuff marks on several bumper corners
- RR upper bumper cover is disturbed (been rearended lately?)
- Beltline trim on right side of bumper is scuffed (been rearended lately?)
- Crinkle in RR fender, above bumper guard (been rearended lately?)
- KwikLube sticker in windshield
- Small crease in LR fender, several inches in front of bumper cover
- Upper door trim gone curly (this does not happen to all 123s)
- Driver's seat bolster scuffed up
- Some screw covers missing from underdash panels
- Door panels look slightly shrunken
- Cracks in dash and console wood
- Console wood not installed properly
- Dash cracked
- Headliner coming loose in front of sunroof
- Brake fluid filthy
- Zip-ties missing where vacuum lines approach firewall
- Hood latch has been off (and screws rounded out)

Still, this thing makes my worn-out, beat-up, 346k-mile jalopy look like 
it just rolled out of the factory.


Tom



[MBZ] OT - Replication errors

2007-05-23 Thread Redghost
Just screwing around with an old ipod trying to make sure it would  
work for my 6 year old to listen to.  Got one of those off the wall  
thoughts pop in to my empty head


What would the replication errors be, or would there be, if a woman  
were to carry her own clone?  How many generations hence before  
errors would be induced if you used the original donor in succeeding  
generation vs. donation from prior generation to source the next?


Off the wall, but I am sure there is enough brain power on the list  
to at least shine a very dim light on the topic





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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Replication errors

2007-05-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
If a man is standing in the middle of the woods, 6 miles from any women  he
says something, is he still wrong?

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Replication errors

Just screwing around with an old ipod trying to make sure it would  
work for my 6 year old to listen to.  Got one of those off the wall  
thoughts pop in to my empty head

What would the replication errors be, or would there be, if a woman  
were to carry her own clone?  How many generations hence before  
errors would be induced if you used the original donor in succeeding  
generation vs. donation from prior generation to source the next?

Off the wall, but I am sure there is enough brain power on the list  
to at least shine a very dim light on the topic




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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Cathey

The official pain is the Wurth Silver and Wurth Clear Coat.

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Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Cathey

If you get lucky and have a spare wheel in the trunk that has never
seen the road, use that as a reference point.


Get lucky four times and save yourself all the work!

P.S. U-Pull bundts are $20 here.  (I know you know, Clay.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Cathey

Do you perhaps mean that the system will ask you to bid a set increment
higher than your attempted bid, until you top the highest max. bid from
anyone else?


It's remarkably simple: the item will sell for the second-highest
maximum bid.  Period.  In cases of exact ties the first-supplied
such bid will win.

For me it's easy and painless.  I figure out exactly how much I
am willing to pay, bid that at some reasonable distance from the
end of the auction, and walk away.  After it's over, usually the
next day, I see if I got it.  If I did, I'm happy.  If I got it
for less, I'm really happy.  If I didn't get it, no way I was
willing to pay more for it anyway.

Sniping is just an attempt to trick people who are trying to
get it for less than they'd be willing to pay for it.  Due to
greed it works well enough to support auxiliary businesses.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been enough pressure from
sellers to change the system to block sniping.  I wonder what
the snipe sites' kickback to eBay is?  :-)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT So that's ebay

2007-05-23 Thread Zoltan Finks

I agree that it's wise to set in your mind a top amount you are willing to
pay. Kind of like deciding not to blow more than $20 at the casino. $20 is
the max. that it is worth to you that night.

But if you can get out of there for less, why blow the entire 20?

That said, I'm not ruling out your technique for bidding. I might just try
it, and avoid all the battling on the crooked playing field.

Brian
high roller

Jim wrote:
Sniping is just an attempt to trick people who are trying to
get it for less than they'd be willing to pay for it.


Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Loren Faeth
I have a new Bundt (Spare) from a 126 with the original Conti tire. 
It is from an 85 280SEL (Euro)  I'd sell it to the high bidder.  It 
has been on a car for a brief time.  The Conti is no good, except as 
a spare for a show car.  It has a big bubble on the inside that popped.


At 10:00 PM 5/22/2007, you wrote:

 If you get lucky and have a spare wheel in the trunk that has never
 seen the road, use that as a reference point.

Get lucky four times and save yourself all the work!

P.S. U-Pull bundts are $20 here.  (I know you know, Clay.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 107 door trim

2007-05-23 Thread Loren Faeth
Anyone know where I might find the drivers door trim and the mating 
trim for the left front fender for a 107.  Particular car is a 85 380SL.


I am down to asking Potomac or whatever they call Pete's these 
days.  The only time I have seen a 107 in a boneyard was in las vegas 
3 years ago.  I can't find even 124 or 123 parts around here. (250 
mile radius or so)


Loren
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et al



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[MBZ] Kalebs backyard?

2007-05-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen
http://www.m-100.de/Schrotti/Schrotti.html
also to save on emails 
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of bling
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That must have been either the 1st gen, or under some real good conditions.
My brother had one and he usually saw low 40's...

Levi

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 Levi Smith wrote:
 
  I think the VX was around 40-50mpg...  It seemed like fuel efficient
 V-tec
  step up from the CRX HF which was around 40mpg...

 HF and VX both had mid-50's EPA highway.
 HF could top 60mpg at 60-65mph in real life, VX could not.

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[MBZ] OT - Replication errors

2007-05-23 Thread Tony Wirtel


Just screwing around with an old ipod trying to make sure it would
work for my 6 year old to listen to.  Got one of those off the wall
thoughts pop in to my empty head

What would the replication errors be, or would there be, if a woman
were to carry her own clone?  How many generations hence before
errors would be induced if you used the original donor in succeeding
generation vs. donation from prior generation to source the next?

Off the wall, but I am sure there is enough brain power on the list
to at least shine a very dim light on the topic

--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner


Clay:

Not an expert, but there are ALWAYS replication errors; what changes
are the quantity.  After that I believe its simply a matter of
statistics of error probability taking over.  To VERY broadly
generalize if you're error rate is 1%, over 10 generations the
probability of success would be about 90%; if error rate is 99.9%,
then over the same 10 generations you'd be at about 99%. This assumes
much, perhaps the most important factor being that the error rate
would not change.

That said, with advances in science and medicine as well as cars that
are more reliable while also increasingly DIY unfriendly men are
pretty much SOL, anyway (grin).

Tony Wirtel



Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield

Yes, most correctest would be what I am hunting.

Mike
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I think the question was most correctest manner to skin this cat  
not that two good cans of rattle spray are not the most expeditious.   
That is a very quick and effective way to solve the issue.


clay

On May 22, 2007, at 11:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

For those of us who are anally challenged, a scrubbing followed by  
two coats
of Rustoleum Aluminum paint yields exceedingly nice - and cost  
effective -

results.

On 5/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Griots Garage has a IIRC $50 package that will finish four wheels.
You are supplies a cleaner, some instructions, a can of primer, two
cans of color, and two cans of clear.  I am very happy with the
outcome I got, but you really need to do exceedingly good prep.

If you are able to hit your local rattle can shop, that formula of
primer, color and coat will serve you fine.  Some cans are even
labeled wheel paint and come in a close enough grey.  Where you will
really see issues is with the stupid lug bolt heads and the caps.  Go
all out on prep there.

If you get lucky and have a spare wheel in the trunk that has never
seen the road, use that as a reference point. I pick one up at PnP
and was able to go to Home Depot and sourced some rattle cans for the
after-market pseudo bundts I refurbed.

clay



On May 22, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Mike Canfield wrote:


Heck, I could do them painted for less than $100I better
hit the
pick and pull..What would be the proper paint to use?  I mean,
to be
correct for a restoration..

Mike
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I believe they;re available for around $100-$130 in many places -
but tha
might be exch at some places.  and those are painted - chromed
ones (yuck)
and around $180.

If you sell them fr $100 that;s probably a good price - make sure
you have
some profit built in. Many suggest 30% or so -

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From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts



So, What is the finish on the Bundts?  Is it paint or
powdercoating?  A
friend of mine has a whole stack of them I was wondering about
restoring
and
reselling.  I have podercoating equipment and a bead blast setup
available
to use.
 Done right, looking new, would they be worth $100 each,
outright, with
no
core charge, to anyone?  I've been thinking of buying the
equipment for
myself but haven't been sure if I could make it pay for itself.

Mike
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From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...


I spent a few minutes with them today.  Does not seem to be  
bubbles

from behind, as there is no great dimensionality that goes to
depth.
It is surface schmutz that rubs off with elbow grease.  At least
the
one bit I worked on.



On May 20, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


YEP, you can send your scruffy bundts to Performance Products
and get
a set of shiny wheels back.  Something like $400 for the  
pleasure


They will not accept chromed wheels as cores.

Your 'pitting' looked an awful lot like bubbling from behind.
That, I've seen.

-- Jim



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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread LarryT

Hi Jim,
Yeah, I think maybe it is.  If you've  ever tried to get a very smooth 
surface you'll know it's more pain than paint!

:-)

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The official pain is the Wurth Silver and Wurth Clear Coat.

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Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield
In that case I think powdercoating would yield a much smoother finish with 
much less prep.  Glass bead it, solvent wash and powdercoat.I have 
the oven, now I need to save up for the powdercoating equipment.  I'd rather 
use my own than borrow seeing I intend to make a profit.


Thanks for the tips..I'll let you guys know how and when it goes.

Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts



Hi Jim,
Yeah, I think maybe it is.  If you've  ever tried to get a very smooth
surface you'll know it's more pain than paint!
:-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts



The official pain is the Wurth Silver and Wurth Clear Coat.

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Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts

2007-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
I once used black epoxy paint on some wheels (not bundts, just
ordinary steel wheels).  I had them sandblasted, used spray primer and
and I actually brushed on the epoxy paint.  The epoxy paint dries
glossy and is fairly thick so it can fill minor imperfections.  I was
happy with the results, if I had sprayed it it probably would have
been even better but as it was you really couldn't see any brush
marks.

Just FWIW.

Allan

Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In that case I think powdercoating would yield a much smoother
 finish with much less prep.  Glass bead it, solvent wash and
 powdercoat.I have the oven, now I need to save up for the
 powdercoating equipment.  I'd rather use my own than borrow seeing I
 intend to make a profit.

 Thanks for the tips..I'll let you guys know how and when it goes.

 Mike

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1966 230



Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Booher

On 5/22/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hard to believe there's a little girl under all that dirt.



We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come
at night... mostly.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Booher

On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body?

Loren Faeth


My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis
... for the right price.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?

2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a 
welder...


Mike
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On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body?

Loren Faeth


My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis
... for the right price.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Replication errors

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Booher

On 5/22/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What would the replication errors be, or would there be, if a woman
were to carry her own clone?  How many generations hence before
errors would be induced if you used the original donor in succeeding
generation vs. donation from prior generation to source the next?

Off the wall, but I am sure there is enough brain power on the list
to at least shine a very dim light on the topic


Well, the largest problem you run into first is that the process of
cloning is not exact as of yet. Too many errors are still introduced
merely by man trying to meddle in a natural process. So at this time,
you'd have genetic errors in the first generation. Now, supposing that
man ever gets to a point where genetic clones of humans are a 100%
reliable possibility, then you get into an even different problem. The
clone being a duplicate representation of the mother carrying the
child, the mother's body would be unable to tell any difference
between the child and the mother. Meaning any disease, cancer, etc
that the mother may have/contract during the 9 month incubation would
have a far larger risk of being transferred to the clone child as the
genetics involved can not tell a difference and begin to rewrite the
clone DNA with the same RNA rewriting the mothers.

Further, look at the plight of the banana. Some 65 or so years ago
(roughly, going by memory instead of taking research time to pull
proper data) there was a banana that was known as the Big Mike. People
that still remember the Mike say that it was a firmer, sweeter banana
than we have today. Heck, some of the listers may remember the Big
Mike. Every banana that we eat today, that we think of as the
banana, the bright yellow color, the curvature, the God inspired
easy open handle is a clone. They are all genetically identical. So
was the Big Mike, it too was a genetic clone. Every Mike was the same
on the cellular level. Today, you will not find a Mike. Period. They
are extinct.

A disease ran rampant through the Mike. It spread, eventually, to
every banana field in the world that grew the Mike. Because they were
cloned, there was no genetic alterations, no differences, that allowed
any strain of MIke to become impervious to the disease, and as such,
every last one was wiped out. Today, the same has started occuring to
the Cavendish Banana (the bright yellow, etc) and there may be one day
soon that we have to start eating a completely different banana again.
As the last of the Cavendish becomes extinct.

A perfect human clone would face the same fate after 20 or so
generations. There wouldn't be enough genetic differences left in the
gene pool to combat all diseases and the race would slowly die out.
Probably.

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[MBZ] stacked headlights 108

2007-05-23 Thread .Afzaal.Khan.
anyone with a pair  of  stacked headlights for a 108, i would like to 
replace mine.
mak 





Re: [MBZ] Now, a liar on craigslist....

2007-05-23 Thread Gary Thompson

My 84 300D averaged right at 23MPG for a mix of 70% highway (@ 70) and
30% city driving. Never saw anything better than 25MPG for a full tank
of highway driving.

Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 5/22/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In my '83 300D I get low 20's day-to-day.  My daily commute is about
10 miles each way, average 45 MPH.  Most recent highway milage (with
about 1/4 tank of city driving at the end) was 25 MPG, I was averaging
about 72 MPH for the highway miles.

Allan




Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage was Re: Now, a liar on craigslist...

2007-05-23 Thread Gary Thompson

My 75 Blazer with 400 and full time 4-wheel drive never met a gas pump
it didn't like. I used to get roughly 8MPG. Didn't seem to matter what
I was pulling, though.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 5/22/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My brother has a 1973 Cadillac Sedan Deville.  It has a 472 in it.  He
gets about 7-8 mpg.





Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?

2007-05-23 Thread Sunil Hari

now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that.

On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a
welder...

Mike
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 On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body?

 Loren Faeth

 My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis
 ... for the right price.

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Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage was Re: Now, a liar on craigslist...

2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Had a 75 GMC pickup with the same setup.8MPG pulling the loaded 
trailer or running empty.


Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage was Re: Now, a liar on craigslist...



My 75 Blazer with 400 and full time 4-wheel drive never met a gas pump
it didn't like. I used to get roughly 8MPG. Didn't seem to matter what
I was pulling, though.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 5/22/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My brother has a 1973 Cadillac Sedan Deville.  It has a 472 in it.  He
gets about 7-8 mpg.



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?

2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Well, I guess I wouldn't.  But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood 
of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;)


Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?



now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that.

On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a
welder...

Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?


 On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body?

 Loren Faeth

 My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis
 ... for the right price.

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