[MBZ] MB diesel hybrid
Article in AutoWeek online, says MB is going to have a diesel electric hybrid out is 2010 You have to sign in for the article http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE Or :-) Mercedes-Benz plans to roll out a wide range of diesel- and hybrid-powertrain models over the next three years to cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, and plans to put a B-class wagon powered by a fuel cell into production in 2010. Mercedes-Benz plans to have Bluetec diesel-hybrid models in its lineup, beginning in 2010, as it seeks to produce and sell the world’s cleanest sedans http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE#. The German automaker laid out its “Road to the Future” today at the IAA in Frankfurt. *Among its plans:* # A diesel engine for the United States in 2008 that will meet emissions regulations in all 50 states. The engine will be offered in the R-class wagon, and ML- and GL-class SUVs. # A hybrid version of the ML-class SUV in 2009. The powertrain mates at 4.6-liter V-6 engine with the Two Mode rear-drive hybrid system that DaimlerChrysler http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE# has developed in conjunction with BMW and General Motors. # A hybrid version of the S-class sedan will also be introduced in 2009. This S 400 hybrid will mate a V-6 gasoline engine with an integrated starter-generator. The starter-generator provides stop-start function, and can power the car on only electricity for short distances. It also adds an electric boost to the gasoline engine under heavy loads. # Mercedes says the hybrid powertrain is rated at 299 hp, can accelerate the large sedan from 0 to 100 kph (62 mph) in 7.3 seconds, yet burns only 7.9 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (20.9 miles per gallon). # A fuel cell version of the B-class small wagon will go into limited production in 2010. Mercedes said the car will be powered by a new generation of its fuel cell stack that is smaller, yet puts out more power. # Versions of the E-class and S-class sedans powered by Bluetec diesel hybrid powertrains are due in 2010. The powertrains will include a four-cylinder diesel engine and seven-speed automatic transmission. The E-class hybrid will burn 5.1 liters (1.3 gallons) of fuel per 100 kilometers, or about 47.6 miles per gallon. # A version of the C class with the Bluetec diesel hybrid is due after 2010, Mercedes said. This article was last updated on: 09/11/07, 06:58 et ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration)
I'm not sure if I would do it again with the '83 'SD, but I was able to move each line out of the way on my '77 300D and tighten it back down onto the new injector. This may have opened up the possibility for later line breaks. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time to trade
On 9/7/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am probably going to trade in the 1990 300SEL (leaking headgasket) today for a 2001 Ford Expedition. I drove it home last night. I knew when my wife and I argued over who was going to get to drive it, that I would get it. It really is VERY nice. Ok, so it's a little big, but so am I. I can buy it pretty cheaply relative to its bluebook value and even with paying off the Benz, I will still have some built in equity. So what was the trade in value of the 300? Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
Yep, it even has a lighted makeup mirror.. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 4:28 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season... No I like Sheman better, is that the metrosexual model with cup holders and auto tranny? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops, I meant Sherman Tank... Harry 6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How to tell W116 build date
Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in the VIN? The code tag under the hood that has the paint info? Thanks, Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
Disconnect both ends of the injector lines. Get a 17mm crows foot and use it with a socket extension and ratchet to loosen the nuts. Then the nuts should screw off by hand. You can lift off all five injector pipes as an assembly. This makes it very easy to access the injectors for removal/install. You will need a special socket or a deep socket to RR the injectors. You may need to loosen the clamps between the injector pipes to allow more flex when you reinstall. Each nut should easily screw on by hand. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Larribeau Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration I ordered the injectors from Rusty and am going to give it a try, BTW they come with new heat shields. Can the injectors be removed without unloosening the pluming at the pump end? Will it flex just enough to get the injectors out and (hopefully in)? George Larribeau Dallas Texas PS: How often is this fooled with ?? I know I have seen examples of injector testers made out of hydraulic jack pumps. .. was not initially interested at getting this invested in the process.. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration How difficult is it to do this yourself? I seem to recall an article about a home made tester with a gauge made out of a grease gun etc. How is the injector calibrated? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration John Robbins wrote: George Larribeau wrote: Rusty lists injectors and injector nozzles separately. Is the injector complete with nozzle? Can these just be installed or do they need to be set up ?? The injectors listed on Rusty's site come complete with nozzle, etc. All you need to do is remove the old injectors, replace heatshields, and install new injectors. :) The nozzles are available separately for people who rebuild the injectors themselves. New or rebuilt Bosch injectors are warranted to be within 10 bar pressure of one another. They need to be matched to within 5 bar for the engine to run smoothly. So, whether you rebuild or replace your injectors, they need to be calibrated! Some shops are equipped to do this, but many are not. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD Nasty EngineVibration)
I would not disturb the line clamps, I'd take all five off the IP, then off the injectors, and move the assembly out of the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to tell W116 build date
Ed Booher wrote: Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in the VIN? The code tag under the hood that has the paint info? Good question. My '79 had oil cooler hoses date stamped 7/79, so I figured it was one of the last ones built. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel hybrid
Thanks for sharing this with us! On 9/12/07, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article in AutoWeek online, says MB is going to have a diesel electric hybrid out is 2010 You have to sign in for the article http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE Or :-) Mercedes-Benz plans to roll out a wide range of diesel- and hybrid-powertrain models over the next three years to cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, and plans to put a B-class wagon powered by a fuel cell into production in 2010. Mercedes-Benz plans to have Bluetec diesel-hybrid models in its lineup, beginning in 2010, as it seeks to produce and sell the world's cleanest sedans http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE#. The German automaker laid out its Road to the Future today at the IAA in Frankfurt. *Among its plans:* # A diesel engine for the United States in 2008 that will meet emissions regulations in all 50 states. The engine will be offered in the R-class wagon, and ML- and GL-class SUVs. # A hybrid version of the ML-class SUV in 2009. The powertrain mates at 4.6-liter V-6 engine with the Two Mode rear-drive hybrid system that DaimlerChrysler http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE# has developed in conjunction with BMW and General Motors. # A hybrid version of the S-class sedan will also be introduced in 2009. This S 400 hybrid will mate a V-6 gasoline engine with an integrated starter-generator. The starter-generator provides stop-start function, and can power the car on only electricity for short distances. It also adds an electric boost to the gasoline engine under heavy loads. # Mercedes says the hybrid powertrain is rated at 299 hp, can accelerate the large sedan from 0 to 100 kph (62 mph) in 7.3 seconds, yet burns only 7.9 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (20.9 miles per gallon). # A fuel cell version of the B-class small wagon will go into limited production in 2010. Mercedes said the car will be powered by a new generation of its fuel cell stack that is smaller, yet puts out more power. # Versions of the E-class and S-class sedans powered by Bluetec diesel hybrid powertrains are due in 2010. The powertrains will include a four-cylinder diesel engine and seven-speed automatic transmission. The E-class hybrid will burn 5.1 liters (1.3 gallons) of fuel per 100 kilometers, or about 47.6 miles per gallon. # A version of the C class with the Bluetec diesel hybrid is due after 2010, Mercedes said. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Marshall Your explanation that front propshaft comes with the vibration damper make a lot of sense in that the EPC does not list it seperately. The picture depicted on the EPC suggests that the mount may be part of the driveshaft. It seems that my vibration is not strictly engine rpm related and am considering that it might be differential mounts . PEter -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2007 22:17 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist Peter Merle wrote: Thanks for the sound advice - I did inspect mountings and they did appear to be sound . I took vehvicle to a retired Mercedes Benz Mechanic and he said that I should have the vibration damper on the propshaft ( which I don't have ) The twist comes in that the EPC does not list a vibration for my vehicle 124.130. Furthur the mechanic should me a Mercedes publication printed dec 1984 where is states that the 124.130 manual transmission definetly must have the damper ( the auto does not ) My vehicle is a manual and has been so since birth so I'm very puzzled. Can anyone confirm that the 124.130 ( manual tranny ) 300D has a vibration damper ( behind front flex disc ) on the drive shaft? The 124.130 with a manual transmission (the damper on automatics is quite different) was designed to have a vibration damper on the driveshaft, but some did not require one. The damper has NO effect on engine vibration but ONLY on vibration related to ground speed. I have a friend with a 124.003 with a 5 speed. When the damper collapsed (or more accurately tore apart) he had it replaced. On some cars (201s for sure) the only way the vibration damper is available is along with front half of the driveshaft. At least one member of this forum has replaced the front driveshaft to replace the damper. There are several driveshaft specialist that claim they can balance the shaft with or without the damper. Others argue that that is not always possible. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Gonna get those doors done, baby! First I needed to make moisture barriers. I got one of the empty salt bags that I've used before, and found that the 107 doors are too long for this to work. I couldn't find the roll of plastic sheeting I'd bought for this purpose, but I did find a plastic dropcloth I'd used to contain brick dust during the fireplace insert install, and there were still some large undamaged areas. I got out the 3M spray 77 glue and sprayed the interior of the passenger door, then I draped the plastic sheet over the door and started sticking it down. When it was taut I used scissors to cut out around the door. (That worked well enough that I did the other door just the same way.) I retrieved the door panel from the garage, dug the mounting hardware out of the trunk, and put the door back together. I had to get four replacement plastic panel clips from the junk pile. One of the little chrome trim screws was gone, so I used one from the 126 junkyard raid. Though not exactly the same it worked well enough as a replacement. The door looks good, works well, shuts solidly with no rattles, and has a lock knob that both looks good and works. Success! I went around to do the other side, but first I wanted to test the keyless door lock solenoid. I used the new Harbor Freight multimeter I bought yesterday, $2.88, and found that it has no continuity. When power is applied, either polarity, nothing happens. Oh well! I can operate on this later if I wish to install keyless entry. I put the driver's door back together. I had to replace five of the plastic panel clips on this side. I used a chrome armrest trim piece from a 123 to substitute for the missing one, it isn't exactly right, but it looks pretty good. The riveted hole for the rear chrome door jamb trim piece had been drilled out so the correct small screws don't fit anymore. I suppose I should weld it over and re-drill, but I think I'll wait on that! The screw is just sitting in that hole. I had to use four more of the 126 trim screws on this side. The door also looks good, works well, and shuts solidly with no rattles. More success! Both doors now sound like they ought to, a nice solid 'thunk'. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to tell W116 build date
Ed, Check the B Pillar driver side, down low. Label there contains build date to the best of my knowledge. My '80 W116 (gone) had date of 10/79. VIN was 11612012015466. Take care, Chuck On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Ed Booher wrote: Where do you find the build date on a W116? Is it in the VIN? The code tag under the hood that has the paint info? Thanks, Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)
Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration) I would not disturb the line clamps, I'd take all five off the IP, then off the injectors, and move the assembly out of the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)
George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? I can get all of them off with a normal wrench... but a crow foot would certainly make things easier. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
I've not been able to follow all the threads on this due to limited time and computer problems - Is Techron concentrate safe and effective for a diesel? Much easier than doing the stuff requited for Diesel Purge. Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 11, 2007 4:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration Rich Thomas wrote: So is that true, these are the same product? Diesel Purge I never see, Techron is in the auto parts store. --R Marshall Booth wrote: I'd start with a dose of a superior injector cleaner (Diesel Purge delivered full strength or Chevron Techron concentrate - the same stuff for gasoline cars) Diesel Purge is NOT the same as Chevron Techron concentrate nor are they administered the same way to achieve maximum effect. DP is run through full strength with the fuel tank/lines disconnected, while Techron concentrate is poured into the fuel tank and thew car driven. They both do an excellent job of cleaning dirty/coked injectors. BG 44k is also a fine cleaner that's poured into the tank, but it's expensive and must be purchased from a service shop. Most of the other cleaners that I've tried were a little to a lot less effective. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 560 SEC spotted for sale in NM
Checked the local classified ads and found this: 1988 560 SEC, 2 dr coupe, low miles, awesome condition, $5500 OBO. Ad # 4073960 at http://classifieds.abqjournal.com/ Too far out of my way to look at but thought I'd pass it along. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)
The snap on trucks usually carry the metric flare nut crows foot wrenches too.if you can chase them down. Granted, they get about $22 each for them. ---Robert George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration) I would not disturb the line clamps, I'd take all five off the IP, then off the injectors, and move the assembly out of the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
John Robbins wrote: George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93138 Wrench sizes: 10 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 17 mm, 19 mm Open end in the same 7 sizes is $8.99 regular price: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94427 My set isn't on sale right now, $14.99 for the full set of ten flare wrenches including 11mm, 16mm, and 18mm. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47928 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tool Cart
What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Anybody have any other recommendations? Does the brand typically make POS stuff? etc.. I need something that I can store in my house (neatly in a corner somewhere) and then be able to roll it out to my driveway. Right now I end up with tools all over the house because I'll leave them near the front door when I have to stop working, but I haven't finished the project yet. I don't want to spend more than $400 or so. Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
John Robbins wrote: What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Doesn't look bad for the price. The question is whether you want a tool cart or a roller cabinet, you should be able to find a decent Craftsman 26 roller cab at Sears for about that much. Either way, if there are stairs between the driveway and your storage place you won't be happy. It'll be a pain if your drive isn't paved too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
Those HF flare nut wrenches are great...so long as the nuts were so loose to begin with that you could have got them off with an open end. If they're good and tight, the things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. I'll cheap out on a lot of things, but not flare nut wrenches. The good ones will pay for themselves in saved time and aggravation . I learned that lesson the hard way. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: John Robbins wrote: I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93138 Wrench sizes: 10 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 17 mm, 19 mm Open end in the same 7 sizes is $8.99 regular price: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94427 My set isn't on sale right now, $14.99 for the full set of ten flare wrenches including 11mm, 16mm, and 18mm. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47928 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
Another option, easier to move, but less attractive and a little low to the ground, is to get a top chest ($130-200 on sale at Sears) and mount it on a hand truck or appliance dolly. If stairs or gravel are in your path, I'd go this route. Here's a HF example, $130 cabinet, $110 chest, $66 for a middle drawer section, or $300 for all. No idea as to quality: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39421 Here's a cheap cart, looks lower quality, size not mentioned: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47418 26 single drawer cart, obviously cheap, but only $50: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90428 Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
I think I got my metric crowsfoot flare nut wrenched from JC Whitney, maybe 15 years back. They were not expensive. They were also not fancy. Each is a flat chunk of metal, maybe 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick with a square hole for a 3/8 in drive and the hex for the nut. I have had no problems with those, maybe because they are so beefy. However I have had problems with cheap smaller flare wrenches in brake lines. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches) Those HF flare nut wrenches are great...so long as the nuts were so loose to begin with that you could have got them off with an open end. If they're good and tight, the things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. I'll cheap out on a lot of things, but not flare nut wrenches. The good ones will pay for themselves in saved time and aggravation . I learned that lesson the hard way. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: John Robbins wrote: I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93138 Wrench sizes: 10 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 17 mm, 19 mm Open end in the same 7 sizes is $8.99 regular price: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94427 My set isn't on sale right now, $14.99 for the full set of ten flare wrenches including 11mm, 16mm, and 18mm. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47928 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
Those things are sweet! Napa had one on display a few months back , and for a few bucks less than that if I remember , but I just looked online and they're up to $389 now http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470LineCode=BKPartNumber=8156264Description=Tool+Cart that is one nice setup, even better in person than the picture. All very usable. I've been trying to scrounge up enough duckets to get one around all the other projects ( and I've already got a full size Craftsman roll away and a couple of tool carts, but I need something like that to cut down on the footwork for the most often used tools, the roll away is filled to the brim with specialty tools ) That would be perfect for what you need to do. A full cabinet would be essentially worthless, they're too heavy to move far to begin with . Load one down with tools and you wouldn't be able to get it in and out of the house The wheels on those things are only meant to maneuver a few feet here and there on smooth concrete and to roll it out to the truck to bring them home when you quit ( those real big tool boxes, the only way to move them when loaded is to call out a roll off flat bed tow truck and have the things winched on . Tow truck drivers get a lot of calls for that on Fridays when mechanics quit and on Mondays when they start new jobs :-) ---Robert John Robbins wrote: What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Anybody have any other recommendations? Does the brand typically make POS stuff? etc.. I need something that I can store in my house (neatly in a corner somewhere) and then be able to roll it out to my driveway. Right now I end up with tools all over the house because I'll leave them near the front door when I have to stop working, but I haven't finished the project yet. I don't want to spend more than $400 or so. Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tool Cart
John, I also vote for looking into one of the Craftsman (Note: wait for a sale . . . normally one only needs to wait a week or two) roller cabinets which may fit your needs, but be sure you get one with the bearing slides if you've got lots of tools as any weight in the cheaper style hanging drawers causes problems. Good luck. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 560 SEC spotted for sale in NM
When I was looking around for a 450SL in '91/92, I was also considering a 500SEC as this body style is one of the nicest looking designs MB came up with. Depending on what they mean by low miles and if it actually spent its life in NM, it may be worth what they're asking. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Worth much?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-TURBO-DIESEL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290158742592QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Says the trans won't shift to go over 20mph... Otherwise its in stellar shape for a New England car. Wonder if it could be something stupid and simple... -Curt - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Worth much?
Could be just low on fluid, or a dirty valve body, cable way too tightor the tranny could be toast. Nice looking car. If you want it, bid assuming it needs a tranny at minimum, along with all the other usual ebay seller unmentioned items, present company excluded. -Robert Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-TURBO-DIESEL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290158742592QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Says the trans won't shift to go over 20mph... Otherwise its in stellar shape for a New England car. Wonder if it could be something stupid and simple... -Curt - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
billr wrote: I've not been able to follow all the threads on this due to limited time and computer problems - Is Techron concentrate safe and effective for a diesel? Much easier than doing the stuff requited for Diesel Purge. Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles Chevron Techron Concentrate for gasoline engines works very effectively in INDIRECT INJECTION engines as used in 20th century Mercedes diesels sold in the US. Techron Concentrate should NOT be used in direct injection engines. It is at least as effective as Diesel Purge (in my opinion) and is much easier to use (diesel Techron is designed for direct injection diesel engines and MAY work well in indirect injection engines - I've never tried it). The fact that it takes hours of operation (a bottle of Techron Concentrate dissolved in a tankful of fuel run through the injection system) to do it's job rather than the 20-30 minutes that it takes to run concentrated Diesel Purge thru the injection pump has led some people to infer that Diesel Purge is more effective. Diesel Purge has a very high Cetane index and that substantially quiets the engine while the DP is present which suggests that the cleaning effect is very quick. In truth the quieting while the DP is running thru the engine is largely unrelated to the cleansing effect, but results from the higher Cetane index. This is quickly proven when the engine is reconnected to the diesel supply and much of the noise slowly returns as the Cetane index drops. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
After discovering that my 1990 300SEL had a blown head gasket, I decided to trade it in on a 2001 Ford Expedition. So, now my wife and I have a 97 Explorer and a 2001 Expedition. It is nice to drive a car that has such modern luxuries like a CD changer, keyless entry, heated seats, etc. What usually happens is that I get tired of a car in about 18 months. I like the fun of having a car new to me. I spend time fixing/maintaining everything and shining it up and enjoying the newness (even if they have all been used cars). So, I will drive the Expedition for 18 months or so, then give it to my wife and I will her Explorer and find another Mercedes. I will probably go back to the 124. I really enjoyed my 90 300D. I really like the 90-95 124's. The diesels are probably better cars, but I still like the gassers also. I picked up the Expedition last week on Friday. The dealer is also my mechanic. He always has 6-7 cars for sale. Mostly Mercedes and an occasional BMW. But, he had this Expedition. It belonged to one of his customers who also had a newer S class. Well, he wanted my old wheels (the 15 hole wheels) from my 126. He was going to take off the newer wheels I bought from him and put them on a 94 320 Wagon and put my old wheels back on my car. I didn't want to just give them to him and he didn't want to spend a lot of money on them, so we worked out a deal. He did an oil change, transmission flush, coolant flush, and rotated and balanced the tires. So, I left the car on Friday afternoon and went back at five to pick it up. When I got there, he was pushing it out of the garage. The FUEL PUMP went out. So, I asked him is this was my problem or his problem (I had not paid for the car yet). He said it was his problem. He ended up having to replace the fuel pump ($500) and spend all the labor. I know have a 2001 Expedition with a new fuel pump. Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Worth much?
Wonder if it could be something stupid and simple... Kickdown switch? KEvin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:16:56 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On some cars (201s for sure) the only way the vibration damper is available is along with front half of the driveshaft. At least one member of this forum has replaced the front driveshaft to replace the damper. There are several driveshaft specialist that claim they can balance the shaft with or without the damper. Others argue that that is not always possible. When I was doing my 240D to manual transmission 300D conversion, the 123.130 driveshaft I acquired in Austin had a vibration damper on the front flex joint mounting flange. I was severly deteriorated. I sent the driveshaft to Driveline Service of Atlanta to be refurbished. The balanced it without the damper because the part was not available and because mine was in so bad shape. That does not seem to work with some driveshafts. Mercedes incorporated the damper to meet their tolerances for noise and vibration. If it could be routinely replaced effectively in a simpler/cheaper way in the field, they would have done it that way (they sell dampers for automatics - just not manual transmission driveshafts). Mercedes also will not allow the transmission U joint to be replaced in the field - you must replace the driveshaft. That's because few shops have either the machinery or technical skill to meet the Mercedes specifications. Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest (can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing the U joint but I've heard from a few of their customers that were dissatisfied (and more than that, that were pleased). I have not used either service. I have replaced several driveshafts. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
This is quickly proven when the engine is reconnected to the diesel supply and much of the noise slowly returns as the Cetane index drops. This is what I experienced on my second '78 300D. It sounded very quiet and smooth while running the DP, but clattered loudly once the diesel supply returned. I swapped the #1 injector out of each car just for grins, and the noise went to the other car along with the bad injector. I swapped another good used one in there and both cars were happy. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula, still in the shop 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M! for gassers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, It's time for an oil change in the '01 E320 wagon. Anyone have thoughts on which grade of M1 is the best for this vehicle. I've read more than my share of diesel oil threads but few on whats best for our gassers. I do recall Dave M. saying he thought the 5W-40 Turbo Diesel was right for gassers as well. Thoughts? Ralph Wasserbaech The following oils are suitable for your engine: Mobil 1 SuperSyn European Car Formula 0W-40; Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 (may only be available from Mercedes dealers and a few independents - NOT Wal-Mart); Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-40. There may be others, but I trust those oils! Here's a complete list of ALL Mercedes approved oils: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html These meet the minimum Mercedes specs, but they are NOT all equivalent. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
Bought a 17mm crowfoot from Matco years ago but was disappointed because it was too big to loosen the IP nuts separately on the 1967 200D and the injector lines had to be taken off one at a time. Just now looked at it closely and it's a Snap-on! Went out and checked it on the '83 300D and found that it will work fine with plenty of room around each nut. Gerry -- - Original Message - Those HF flare nut wrenches are great...so long as the nuts were so loose to begin with that you could have got them off with an open end. If they're good and tight, the things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. I'll cheap out on a lot of things, but not flare nut wrenches. The good ones will pay for themselves in saved time and aggravation . I learned that lesson the hard way. -Robert John Robbins wrote: I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93138 Wrench sizes: 10 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 17 mm, 19 mm Open end in the same 7 sizes is $8.99 regular price: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94427 My set isn't on sale right now, $14.99 for the full set of ten flare wrenches including 11mm, 16mm, and 18mm. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47928 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
Mitch Haley wrote: Doesn't look bad for the price. The question is whether you want a tool cart or a roller cabinet, you should be able to find a decent Craftsman 26 roller cab at Sears for about that much. Either way, if there are stairs between the driveway and your storage place you won't be happy. It'll be a pain if your drive isn't paved too. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with stairs or gravel. :) All I've got to deal with is the threshold on the side door, and the rough finish of the driveway. Glenn Brown wrote: I also vote for looking into one of the Craftsman I don't have many positive things to say about the two Craftsman toolboxes we have at work. They don't have the ball-bearing drawers though which is the main reason I don't like them. The main reason I don't want to get a full blown rolling cab toolbox is because I have to lift it over the threshold... It'd be nice if it didn't take two people to lift one side of it ;) Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Those things are sweet! Napa had one on display a few months back , and for a few bucks less than that if I remember , but I just looked online and they're up to $389 now That looks like the exact same cart too! :) I wonder if I can get the local NAPA to price match ;) That would be perfect for what you need to do. A full cabinet would be essentially worthless, they're too heavy to move far to begin with . Load one down with tools and you wouldn't be able to get it in and out of the house The wheels on those things are only meant to maneuver a few feet here and there on smooth concrete and to roll it out to the truck to bring them home when you quit Thats the train of thought I had for looking at carts vs. cab boxes. I don't mind keeping all the specialized tools elsewhere, since I don't typically use them every time I work on the car. So no reason to load the toolbox down with them :) Currently I use these things from Lowes (they've gotten more expensive since I bought them though... They work extremely well, but I've gotten tired of bringing each one in/out of the house and having them scattered all about the place. http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetailproductId=109757-46059-993-001lpage=none Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
I don't know anything about that particular brand. But that type of cart is not good unless you have a level path (no steps, sills, etc) from storage to driveway. The cart gets real heavy and the wheels are small. You may be better served by several tool boxes or bags that are easy to carry and organized by job type (e.g. one for wrenches, sockets, etc; one for plumbing, one for general tools, etc.) At my net place, I have a dirt yard and two steps up to my barn so my roller chest is useless except as a storage cabinet. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Tool Cart What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Anybody have any other recommendations? Does the brand typically make POS stuff? etc.. I need something that I can store in my house (neatly in a corner somewhere) and then be able to roll it out to my driveway. Right now I end up with tools all over the house because I'll leave them near the front door when I have to stop working, but I haven't finished the project yet. I don't want to spend more than $400 or so. Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dealer is also my mechanic. He always has 6-7 cars for sale. Mostly Mercedes and an occasional BMW. But, he had this Expedition. It belonged to one of his customers who also had a newer S class. Well, he wanted my old wheels (the 15 hole wheels) from my 126. He was going to take off the newer wheels I bought from him and put them on a 94 320 Wagon and put my old wheels back on my car. He's not much of a Mercedes mechanic if he doesn't know that 124 and 126 wheels are not interchangeable (the offsets are very different). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Is the lock knob that you fabricated the locking thingy that's behind and above the inside door release lever? If so, I have a difficult time thinking of that as a knob - it's more of a lever to me This is assuming that the 380 107 is the same as my 450 107 --- The door looks good, works well, shuts solidly with no rattles, and has a lock knob that both looks good and works. Success! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: computer virus warning - real one]
Original Message Subject:computer virus warning - real one Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:06:01 -0500 From: JM Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Marilyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] These warning are usually Hoaxes but this on is listed as real on snopes.com. You can verity it with the web site listed below. **http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/postcard.asp** ** ** **In essence, don’t open an email that states that ‘someone’ has sent you a ‘card’.** **It is on the Snopes site. ml** /*/PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST!! /*/ /*/A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the title: 'You've received a Post Card from a Family member'. /*/ /*/As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+ /*//*/del/*//*/ keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in /*//*/New York/*//*/ ,/*//*/ according to news broadcast by CNN. /*/ /*/This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject: 'A Post Card from ...' As soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the sender !!! /*/ /*/Please pass this mail to all of your friends. /*/ /*/Forward this to everyone in your address book. I'm sure most people, like myself, would rather receive this notice 25 times than not at All /*/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 83 300SD for sale, low miles Calling Dan Weeks!
In the local paper, there is an 83 300SD for sale, with a claim of 48k miles. Here's the ad: Mercedes Benz 300SD, 83. 48,000 original miles, turbo diesel, 4 door sedan, automatic transmission, new tires, sunroof, runs good, $3500. 515-450-5909 or 317-370-2253. 317 is an Indiana area code. No relationship etc to the seller. FYI Be careful about the mileage, could be tampered with. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD for sale, low miles Calling Dan Weeks!
I would bet it has been. Otherwise the guy would know what he has and it would be alot more. Loren Faeth wrote: In the local paper, there is an 83 300SD for sale, with a claim of 48k miles. Here's the ad: Mercedes Benz 300SD, 83. 48,000 original miles, turbo diesel, 4 door sedan, automatic transmission, new tires, sunroof, runs good, $3500. 515-450-5909 or 317-370-2253. 317 is an Indiana area code. No relationship etc to the seller. FYI Be careful about the mileage, could be tampered with. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Calling Dan Weeks! (Loren Faeth)
Thanks, Loren! I'll check it out! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Is the lock knob that you fabricated the locking thingy that's behind and above the inside door release lever? If so, I have a difficult time thinking of that as a knob - it's more of a lever to me This is assuming that the 380 107 is the same as my 450 107 --- They're identical. It's more of a finger pull type of lever. It's what you pull/push on to unlock/lock the doors from inside. I already reworded the web site's account. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest (can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both It's in Portland OR, if that helps. claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing the U joint but I've heard from a few of their customers that were dissatisfied (and more than that, that were pleased). I have not used either service. I have replaced several driveshafts. My mechanic used them to replace the U-joint on my 560 SL. No discernible problems afterwards. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
etc. What usually happens is that I get tired of a car in about 18 months. I like the fun of having a car new to me. That's why a nice big stable of MB's is so good. I rotate through them, and they're each new to me again. All the fun without all the acquisition and depreciation expenses. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
If they're good and tight, the [HF] things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. When there's room I have clamped a big vise-grip over the outside of the wrench to hold it closed. It helps. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
No problem replacing the U-joint without re-balancing so long as you mark the shafts so that they go together the same way. You just need to mark all three pieces with paint or a scribe so that you can put them together the same way they came apart. The U-joint can only go together correct or 180 degrees out. The slip joint is splined can go together multiple ways. You need to make sure that the paint or scribe marks are accurate enough to make it easy to put the slip joint back together exactly the way it came apart. You don't need to be as careful with the flex disks but some mark the shafts so that they go together the same way anyway. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist Driveline Service of Atlanta or the driveline shop in the northwest (can't find the name right now - they also advertise in the Star) both It's in Portland OR, if that helps. claim they can rebalance a shaft without the damper, or after replacing the U joint but I've heard from a few of their customers that were dissatisfied (and more than that, that were pleased). I have not used either service. I have replaced several driveshafts. My mechanic used them to replace the U-joint on my 560 SL. No discernible problems afterwards. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
Buy the correct tool from Rusty you don't need to cobble together a solution. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches) If they're good and tight, the [HF] things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. When there's room I have clamped a big vise-grip over the outside of the wrench to hold it closed. It helps. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
my mother is coming to visit, so i figure it's time to bust out old kirby and go over the carpet a bit. kirby has always been loud, but tonight he simply screams bloody murder. i smell a little burning smell. and then i see some spark and flame inside the motor housing. but as it keeps sucking up dirt, i keep vacuuming. i do this for another minute or so and then realize that what i am doing is insane. now i've heard here that kirby's are really not that good and they are a pure ripoff, etc. i've heard it all before, but i'm still impressed. guess i'll need to take it apart this weekend to see what has gone awry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
Exactly! I'm alternating between cars each day - 126, 124, 107, 126, 124,107, etc., or - Diesel, Diesel, gas, Diesel, Diesel, gas, etc. My son has the 123 off site at college, so it's out of the rotation. If you drive each one for a month, it's more like a new one each time. On 9/12/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: etc. What usually happens is that I get tired of a car in about 18 months. I like the fun of having a car new to me. That's why a nice big stable of MB's is so good. I rotate through them, and they're each new to me again. All the fun without all the acquisition and depreciation expenses. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
The Benz driveshafts after the W108/109 chassis aren't that easy -- the u-joint is straked in place, not held by centering clips, and if you don't have the jig to strake a new one in exactly centered, it will shake like crazy. BTDT. Get a new shaft, they are cheap in comparison. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
Probably the motor bearings. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
i had to replace an original fuel pump on a car recently as well. it was on my 79 280CE. modern car climate control is the bomb. fuel economy relative to power is also pretty great. beyond that, i don't know there is much to like. On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After discovering that my 1990 300SEL had a blown head gasket, I decided to trade it in on a 2001 Ford Expedition. So, now my wife and I have a 97 Explorer and a 2001 Expedition. It is nice to drive a car that has such modern luxuries like a CD changer, keyless entry, heated seats, etc. What usually happens is that I get tired of a car in about 18 months. I like the fun of having a car new to me. I spend time fixing/maintaining everything and shining it up and enjoying the newness (even if they have all been used cars). So, I will drive the Expedition for 18 months or so, then give it to my wife and I will her Explorer and find another Mercedes. I will probably go back to the 124. I really enjoyed my 90 300D. I really like the 90-95 124's. The diesels are probably better cars, but I still like the gassers also. I picked up the Expedition last week on Friday. The dealer is also my mechanic. He always has 6-7 cars for sale. Mostly Mercedes and an occasional BMW. But, he had this Expedition. It belonged to one of his customers who also had a newer S class. Well, he wanted my old wheels (the 15 hole wheels) from my 126. He was going to take off the newer wheels I bought from him and put them on a 94 320 Wagon and put my old wheels back on my car. I didn't want to just give them to him and he didn't want to spend a lot of money on them, so we worked out a deal. He did an oil change, transmission flush, coolant flush, and rotated and balanced the tires. So, I left the car on Friday afternoon and went back at five to pick it up. When I got there, he was pushing it out of the garage. The FUEL PUMP went out. So, I asked him is this was my problem or his problem (I had not paid for the car yet). He said it was his problem. He ended up having to replace the fuel pump ($500) and spend all the labor. I know have a 2001 Expedition with a new fuel pump. Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
that sounds fatal. do i start looking for a new cheap one or can i fix that easily enough? can i just keep using it till it dies or will it burn my house down? On 9/12/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the motor bearings. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
Buy the correct tool from Rusty you don't need to cobble together a solution. What fun would that be? Mine is a regular 17mm Craftsman socket with a bolt welded to one side, and a slot the width of the injection line ground into the opposite side. It's worked great over the years, but doesn't fit the 60x engines! The 2 60x engines I've worked on have enough room to use standard open end wrenches. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
OK Don wrote: The 2 60x engines I've worked on have enough room to use standard open end wrenches. I've never had a problem doing that on my 617s... ?? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
After work, given that I need to do some other things in the mornings for awhile, I tackled the front grille. I pulled it off and found a bit of rust starting against the hood, so I brushed that off and rattle-canned it with the color paint. The plastic finned grille had a chunk off one end of a fin, which I had found inside the fender, and a half-out chunk from the inside of the big front star. I removed these from the chrome surround, cleaned them off, and used cyanoacrylate glue to tack them back together. I used Shoe Goo to back the repairs up, this is applied where it won't show and is responsible for the strength of the repair. I cut some chunks of scrap gray Mercedes grille material to serve as backing pieces. Acetone was used to clean everything before gluing. The chromed grille surround was getting some visible rust starting on its inner surfaces, so I put it in a bucket to try the electric rust-removal trick. We'll see how it goes, it takes time to operate. I'm not sure how it will interact with the chrome. As of course I can't paint the result I may try some clear spray to protect from moisture and air. I checked the bucket after an hour or so and preliminary results are good: the water's getting nasty looking, the orange rust is gone from the metal and has been replaced by black, and the chrome appears unaffected. I rearranged the sacrificial anode to 'see' more of the rust and resumed the process. We'll let it run overnight. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
It seems than at Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:18:14 -0500, Tom wrote: Most likely brushes or possibly a bad bearing. Kirby's are great machines as long as you use them as vacuum cleaners stay away from all of the extras. And don't have to carry them up any stairs!! Uggh! Them beasts are _heavy_. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070910 2.924 2.912 2.968 2.991 2.872 2.942 2.865 2.955 2.982 2.995 070903 2.893 2.867 2.915 2.934 2.835 2.910 2.836 2.939 2.972 2.985 070827 2.863 2.834 2.906 2.898 2.800 2.870 2.808 2.947 2.965 2.986 070820 2.868 2.842 2.915 2.905 2.808 2.864 2.807 2.977 2.996 3.016 070813 2.847 2.820 2.923 2.901 2.776 2.835 2.771 2.980 3.019 3.054 070806 2.898 2.866 2.955 2.945 2.825 2.887 2.824 3.012 3.077 3.140 070730 2.886 2.847 2.946 2.923 2.806 2.885 2.808 3.003 3.058 3.152 070723 2.889 2.860 2.950 2.945 2.815 2.882 2.815 2.988 3.061 3.158 070716 2.889 2.874 2.959 2.949 2.834 2.878 2.821 2.977 3.031 3.147 070709 2.849 2.853 2.942 2.936 2.810 2.822 2.785 2.955 2.987 3.090 070702 2.829 2.827 2.930 2.916 2.779 2.805 2.766 2.936 2.972 3.067 070625 2.835 2.832 2.920 2.915 2.789 2.806 2.780 2.936 2.985 3.073 070618 2.805 2.800 2.877 2.869 2.764 2.774 2.753 2.907 2.958 3.033 070611 2.792 2.789 2.882 2.873 2.744 2.753 2.742 2.937 2.941 2.997 070604 2.799 2.794 2.882 2.870 2.753 2.764 2.749 2.958 2.931 2.972 070528 2.817 2.811 2.888 2.882 2.773 2.783 2.776 2.980 2.939 2.975 070521 2.803 2.798 2.884 2.873 2.758 2.773 2.747 2.993 2.921 2.955 070514 2.773 2.758 2.866 2.843 2.711 2.740 2.713 2.998 2.919 2.952 070507 2.792 2.781 2.874 2.867 2.735 2.754 2.744 2.995 2.935 2.974 070430 2.811 2.800 2.871 2.873 2.762 2.775 2.766 2.988 2.952 2.987 070423 2.851 2.837 2.864 2.877 2.817 2.831 2.815 2.978 2.953 3.004 070416 2.877 2.862 2.871 2.885 2.852 2.864 2.849 2.981 2.956 3.015 070409 2.840 2.813 2.821 2.852 2.796 2.835 2.810 2.951 2.921 2.978 070402 2.790 2.764 2.786 2.820 2.739 2.780 2.766 2.884 2.885 2.939 070326 2.676 2.657 2.713 2.711 2.630 2.655 2.643 2.780 2.803 2.869 070319 2.681 2.661 2.722 2.719 2.631 2.666 2.640 2.765 2.813 2.875 070312 2.685 2.669 2.730 2.719 2.643 2.673 2.644 2.736 2.811 2.899 070305 2.626 2.604 2.693 2.668 2.568 2.606 2.587 2.658 2.795 2.897 070226 2.551 2.526 2.650 2.598 2.483 2.523 2.497 2.568 2.790 2.911 070219 2.491 2.479 2.636 2.581 2.421 2.444 2.418 2.517 2.784 2.901 070212 2.476 2.465 2.625 2.564 2.408 2.429 2.394 2.517 2.777 2.905 070205 2.435 2.433 2.593 2.527 2.378 2.377 2.360 2.523 2.720 2.825 070129 2.413 2.406 2.570 2.508 2.347 2.349 2.347 2.556 2.687 2.761 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
He's not much of a Mercedes mechanic if he doesn't know that 124 and 126 wheels are not interchangeable (the offsets are very different). Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I know because I have been driving on them for the last several months. The 8 hole wheels came off of a 1994 E320 wagon. We put them on my 126 without any problems. They are genuine Mercedes wheels. Donald H. Snook 2001 Ford Expedition ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
i have a 1400 square foot house with a 900 square foot garage below it (i'm on a steep hill). the part of the house that is above hte garage is 3 steps higher than that section that is over the crawl space, so not much here in terms of upstairs On 9/12/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:18:14 -0500, Tom wrote: Most likely brushes or possibly a bad bearing. Kirby's are great machines as long as you use them as vacuum cleaners stay away from all of the extras. And don't have to carry them up any stairs!! Uggh! Them beasts are _heavy_. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
Maybe old Kirby was shocked that is was taken out and put into use. My Kirby, that I bought in '80 when I got married (it's almost a rite of passage in Illinois to but a Kirby after getting' hitched), is still going strongbut I must say the Dyson I bought 5 years ago sucks circles around Kirby. Those Dysons are da bomb. They are a must if you have dogs or cats. Bob R. '77 300D 180K '02 Dyson mucho sucko -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming i have a 1400 square foot house with a 900 square foot garage below it (i'm on a steep hill). the part of the house that is above hte garage is 3 steps higher than that section that is over the crawl space, so not much here in terms of upstairs On 9/12/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:18:14 -0500, Tom wrote: Most likely brushes or possibly a bad bearing. Kirby's are great machines as long as you use them as vacuum cleaners stay away from all of the extras. And don't have to carry them up any stairs!! Uggh! Them beasts are _heavy_. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
Bolting on and being right are two different things! On 9/12/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's not much of a Mercedes mechanic if he doesn't know that 124 and 126 wheels are not interchangeable (the offsets are very different). Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I know because I have been driving on them for the last several months. The 8 hole wheels came off of a 1994 E320 wagon. We put them on my 126 without any problems. They are genuine Mercedes wheels. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT the travails of a 2 ford family
Actually, you are wrong! These wheels do fit. I know because I bought a set of 201 wheels once to put on a 107. The center star popped right out when I put the first wheel on, the hub poked right through. That was embarrassing, costly, and time-wasting. How better to learn? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
