Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories

2007-12-22 Thread archer
archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined.

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yeah, I hate those idiotic behaviors you describe. But they're caused by inept, careless driving by inept, careless drivers - not by left-foot-braking. Brian On Dec 21, 2007 9:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Got my W108 back today!

2007-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
My theory is that, like every other nitrogen-charged springing device, it is reliable and related systems do not leak UNTIL the nitrogen charge dissipates, I do not believe that there is a nitrogen charge in there at all, sorry. That crap came later. I can't believe that a car with grease

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Robert Rentfro
Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. --

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not something useful in rush hour traffic. The famed Jimmy Clark always had a car w/automatic for city use. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories

2007-12-22 Thread Allan Streib
On Dec 22, 2007, at 3:15 AM, archer wrote: What about all the ladies (and some men) with poor mechanical aptitude who would have less accidents if all they had to remember was that the right foot made the car go and the left foot made the car stop? Honestly? I think if their motor

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread John Robbins
Timothy Robinson wrote: The only exception unfortunately is computer hardware. I won't even rant at how the moment you buy something it's planned obsolete. So you would prefer computing tech to stop advancing? This is why you don't buy the leading edge. For an amount of horsepower you can

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories

2007-12-22 Thread E M
If having to decide what pedal to push confuses anyway, just park it and take the bus. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] As much as women vehemently insist on enjoying the status as drivers equal-to or better-than than men, it just

Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You should have had him buy the one I was selling, it would not have had that problem. Luther wrote: A friend of the family's 420SEL lost brakelights and the dash (speedo/temp/oil etc) is inop. The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to

Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. OK Don wrote: If you drove it like you do a 240D (floored, and shift at red line), it wouldn't drop off the boost curve, and would be even MORE fun :-). There is more space between the rear of the 616 block and the firewall than

Re: [MBZ] EPC sources

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Why dont you just use it for free online? OK Don wrote: The copy of the EPC that I was using has decided that it can't find the database anymore, for no apparent reason. I also can't find the CD I installed it from. So, I did search on eBay for it, and came up with these tow likely

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Ed 300E 911SC On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
If you're putting your trust in your reaction time by left braking alone, you're already off the road and in the ditch. Think ahead and start reacting before you need to. I'd even dare to say, brake pressure if more important that that first reaction time. You can get on the brakes as fast as

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby computers

2007-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
FWIW, my linux server is 6 years old. This Mac G3 is probably older than that, and was given to us free. A whopping 233 MHz, yet it serves just fine. I don't need much, really. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily or intermittently.

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread E M
I prefer the older stuff too, especially if it can be rebuilt, or worth rebuilding. I'm the kind of guy who would buy an older car I like, and in the next 10 years, spend enough money keeping it nice a I would spend to buy a new car. There's a certain pride and pleasure that comes with using a

Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
One from a 240D should work. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. What about the tranny mount crossmember? Do you need to get one from a 300D euro manny? (BTW, I'm pretty sure the euro/manny driveshaft would work a

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers/Chuck

2007-12-22 Thread JFreezn
I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Chuck, I did start out by saying I hate left foot brakers, then I changed it to avoid personal connotations. My daughter is a left foot braker, as are most type A personalities, some of whom, I actually like! Ya, we definitely

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
And the Diesel contact to this flame trap would be?? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again. Even without a beater bar out central vac is the most effective vac I've ever used. The hose is way lighter than any portable. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0500 From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would increase you safety or braking time in anyway. As far as I know, even

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread E M
I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again.

[MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 190d diesel - $1500

2007-12-22 Thread tony . bateman
This guy has an 84 190d manny nice in/out yellow beige but clutch pedal is siesed, can't push in pedal even with full force, runs great been sitting 3 years just jumped it and started right up no smoke 220k. it was in the previous owners garage 2 years, his daughter brought it home that way,

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Kevin Kraly
Get central vac and never buy another vacuum again. Right on, Curt! I've used ours a few times and love it too. I had a small corded hand vac with a rotating brush that i **USED** to use for the stairs, but the central vac in the new house came with a mini powerhead which does such a fine

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Harry Watkins
We got a Roomba, loved it so much we got a Scooba, loved it so much we got a Dirt Dog. Our central vac stays idle most of the time. I turn the Dirt Dog loose when I'm working in my shop area and he keeps things pretty well picked up. Harry On Dec 22, 2007 12:26 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Ed, Then there is always powershifting... (no clutch at all!) Chuck On Dec 21, 2007, at 8:16 PM, E M wrote: Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Bob, You will get a call... Chuck On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Robert Rentfro wrote: Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 190d diesel - $1500

2007-12-22 Thread OK Don
Possibly the clutch master cylinder has corroded/seized, or the same with the slave cylinder. On Dec 22, 2007 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy has an 84 190d manny nice in/out yellow beige but clutch pedal is siesed, can't push in pedal even with full force, runs great been sitting

[MBZ] Hilarious driving stories

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi, I have to admit that a couple of times stopping in the 16V 5 speed, I have just depressed the brake pedal, forgetting to depress the clutch also.. Chatter, chatter, chatter OH, Stupid --- Depress the clutch! On the other hand, in the 500E w/automatic, I have (once or twice)

[MBZ] oil leaks

2007-12-22 Thread Ralph W.
Hello All, I'm trying to track down some oil leaks in my 87 300TD. This is the wagon I bought from Jeff Zedic about a year ago. I think one leak may be from the vacuum pump. Jeff had recently replaced this and perhaps the gasket was installed incorrectly. Can the vacuum pump be a significant

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, its not a diesel list. E M wrote: Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would increase you safety or braking

Re: [MBZ] oil leaks

2007-12-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
Ralph, I've always suspected the injection pump to be producing a leak on the engine. Also, yes full disclosure, the vacuum pump gasket is not 100% seated correctly. I didn't notice this until AFTER everything was re-installed and running!! At the time it was not leaking so I just left it and

Re: [MBZ] oil leaks

2007-12-22 Thread Zeitgeist
Yes, I concur. It's more than likely the injection pump as the source on the driver's side--and it's more than likely the bottom gasket, which is a real PITA to replace in situ. On Dec 22, 2007 12:06 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always suspected the injection pump to be

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Fmiser
... And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Chuck Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift

Re: [MBZ] oil leaks

2007-12-22 Thread Ralph W.
Hey Jeff, Nice to see you're still on the list. I hadn't seen you post in a while so I wondered if you were still around. Sounds like I have one source of leakage tracked down to the vacuum pump. I don't think that it is the major source however. I had powerwashed the engine last week and put

Re: [MBZ] oil leaks

2007-12-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Leak sources I know about on OM603s: Turbo pressure line -- this fouls the passenger side. Valve cover gasket -- can leak anywhere. Bad oil filler cap. If there is oil standing in the drip groove around the cap, it's leaking. Only does so at above idle rpms, and will dump copious oil down

[MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear

2007-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh man, yet another mechanical malady... It would appear my '96 Dakota won't get out of first gear. It'll wind right up to 30mph but won't ever shift. Well sometimes but then if you slow down it goes back and the game resets. At first I thought it was slipping into neutral but thats not the case

Re: [MBZ] Downshifting

2007-12-22 Thread RELNGSON
Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Now, you are talking about double-clutching, not heel and toeing which are not necessarily used in combination. Certainly in everyday

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear

2007-12-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Make sure the kickdown rod is working (if this is still like the old Toqueflight and has mechanical throttle position sensing). Stuck at wide open, it won't let the tranny upshift. You may need to pull the pan to verify that the lever isn't broken inside. Otherwise, if it's electronically

Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:05:48 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. What about the tranny mount crossmember? Do you need to get one from a 300D euro manny? (BTW, I'm pretty sure the euro/manny

Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:35:54 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? Probably. And maybe not even that. The engine 'grows' towards the front, usually.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear

2007-12-22 Thread Fmiser
Oh man, yet another mechanical malady... It would appear my '96 Dakota won't get out of first gear. It'll wind right up to 30mph but won't ever shift. Well sometimes but then if you slow down it goes back and the game resets. At first I thought it was slipping into neutral but thats not the

Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:03:36 -0600 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flywheel is the tough part. Since the OM617 is _not_ internally balanced and the OM616 _is_, the right way to do the job is to have non-balanced flywheel that compensates for the engine imbalance. Mathieu J. Cama and

Re: [MBZ] Downshifting

2007-12-22 Thread E M
My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used. Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. I make double-clutching part of the process, though many don't. The double

Re: [MBZ] Downshifting

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:20:50 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't driven a manual diesel in a long time but it seems to me that heel-and-toeing one would be a waste of time becuse of the slow throttle response. Our '72 220D/8 (OM615) had a throttle plate setup and dreadful slow throttle

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
heel and toeing saves your engine, and trans. The whole idea behind heel and toe is to match engine, trans and wheel speed. As speed increases, it pays in other ways too, as you heel and toe gives you a nice stable platform, and you can then seperate different parts of the car and allow them to

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment

Re: [MBZ] Downshifting

2007-12-22 Thread E M
The problem if you let your wife or girlfriend see you heel and toe is, they'll ask why you're so good dancing on the pedals, and yet always pass up the chance to dance at weddings, claiming to have two left feet. ;-) Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 22, 2007 7:56 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily or intermittently. I've made the same observation, although

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear

2007-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Hi Peter, Its a '96 and Haynes seems to indicate its all electronically controlled. Even if it weren't theres only controls, one is a throttle lever, the other the gearshift lever. I verified that the throttle cable to the trans moves at the engine. I guess I should crawl under the truck and

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread LWB250
The last house we built in Wisconsin was over 3,000 sf and two stories. There was no way we were dragging a vacuum around the house, so we put in a central vac system. Definitely worth every penny, for a number of reasons. And yes, I too only had to empty the drum about once/twice a year.

[MBZ] [NMC] Early Christmas gift :-)

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Hi Everyone, A friend just stopped around with an early Christmas gift. A bottle of wine and Jackie Stewart's bio, Winning Is Not Enough. I was watching the YouTube vids yesterday of Sabine Schmitz and it mentioned in one of them, Steward named the Ring, the Green Hell. I think he really gave a

Re: [MBZ] downshifts

2007-12-22 Thread RELNGSON
My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used.  Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. So you drive the 911 every day, then. And you wait until the very last

[MBZ] diesel racers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
I have a question pertaining to motor sports. I know many on the list drive diesels. Are those of you who do mostly interested in them as daily drivers, or do you follow diesels in motor sport as well? I know Mercedes isn't overly involved at the moment, well, not to my knowledge anyway, but

Re: [MBZ] downshifts

2007-12-22 Thread E M
On 22/12/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used. Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. So you

[MBZ] OT: Lose some, win some

2007-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
I gotta toot my horn on this one, after a couple days of crushing defeats on the automotive front (190D needs an alternator, not a whopping surprise) I bodgered together lights for my new-to-me snowmobile by stealing some wiring from a non-runner and a taillight bulb from my wife's motorcycle

[MBZ] OT - Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread wilton strickland
'Been using Pullman central vac system everywhere I've lived, except Thailand and Greenland since 1968. 'Made a shop vac about 15 yrs ago using a plastic bucket and a vac motor/turbine left over from a system I designed and installed in IBM's first circuit chip lab at NC's Research Triangle Park

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Harry Watkins
Ed, don't do it until you at least try a Roomba. I'm telling you, the other vacuum systems won't be used much when you have one. Our first was in operation during Thanksgiving 2006. We had it running on the last day as our guests (mostly family) were leaving for home, its hard not to watch it

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Hi Harry, I wasn't sure what a Roomba was, so did a search. Looks cool, the cats would love it. :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0NsPNkyf0 Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, don't do it until you at least try a Roomba. I'm telling you, the other vacuum

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum - Roomba

2007-12-22 Thread Bill Ringgold
We bought a top line Roomba when I saw my cousin's. We kept it for a few weeks and returned it. Perhaps it was just our house, but it kept getting stuck under counter edges and binding up on rugs. It also tended to get lost under our living room furniture. Others seem happy with them, but

Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:25:38 -0600 Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I also confirmed the wiring between amp and GPs was good using the WSM method. Sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the WSM method? Yes, indeed, what is the

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
LWB250 wrote: Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Reminds me of something I read once. The client wanted sprayed in place foam insulation, and he knew the insulation contractor he wanted. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear

2007-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Peter, Its a '96 and Haynes seems to indicate its all electronically controlled. When the connector corroded on the vehicle speed sensor on a friend's Corolla, the car would grab 1st gear (at any speed) when the sensor cut out. If you stopped and restarted with the

Re: [MBZ] Got my W108 back today!

2007-12-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
Do NOT get the spring kit! The car is too nice and deserves an OEM rear axle compensator. It won't even cost you that much more. Look for a good used one on ebay. On 12/22/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My theory is that, like every other nitrogen-charged springing device, it is

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Kevin Kraly
What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? One was on the floor while vacuuming, so I thought I'd try it. Just as yours did, ours gobbled it right up. I pulled off the cannister, and sure enough, there it was. The first time I used it, I wanted to check and

Re: [MBZ] copper thieves

2007-12-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill wrote: And buy something nice for one of your MB's. How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it. They just finished filming

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories

2007-12-22 Thread dave walton
If you are driving any Mercedes diesel prior to 98, the brake will win if you press it at the same time as the accelerator. Even if you floor it - especially if you floor it. In the 99 E300, the electronics interpret a sudden brake effort and/or pressing both petals at once as a panic situation

Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum

2007-12-22 Thread Redghost
It is only a 20 foot hose. It does not really go that far, so most folks will have a few outlets space to allow full coverage. I have two upstairs to hit all the floors. For some reason the floor plan on the main floor is able to suffice with only one port, as does the down stairs.

Re: [MBZ] copper thieves

2007-12-22 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote: How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it. Like in pounds or kilograms? Or as in current capacity? Current capacity in a 60 deg C raceway is 195