Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: the steering wheel is about 5 degrees off level now (was level before I started). That's easy DIY, maybe 1/8 turn on both sides (appropriately) will keep the alignment the same yet re-center the wheel. Did the part that was changed affect one wheel's steering position? Then

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Get it aligned, it's not possible to get it right without an alignment rack. Note that the toe/in out can be way off and it will still drive straight, but be overly sensitive to side winds, etc. I always match the tie rods from the center marks of the ball (on the back side) rather than

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:39:30 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The craftsman sockets are still warranted too... though I like how all of the older style metrics had a ring of vertical lines on them so your fingers can tell it's metric... The ones made in the late '60s do not

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread Dieselhead
Have no fear using a 15/16 socket, or a 1 1/16 snears deep socket for your injector nozzle holders. I have used Inch sockets and wrenches for sizes over 19mm for decades. With the older cars, 10mm and 5 and 6mm allen wrenches are the only things you really need if you have a good selection

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Just go with what's priced right at the time, and what has a waranty that doesn't care about the cheater bar :) Walt On May 15, 2010 8:17 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Laser etched sockets are nice BTW, I like being able to see the size from a distance. How 'bout a distance of

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
It will get aligned. I'm not sure that it was right before the work, and is most likely different now from what is was before. The tires are getting thin, and one has a non-leaking screw in the center of the tread. It'll get new tires after the alignment. The only remaining question is where it

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread John Reames
I'd add and a non-catastrophic failure mode; it's ok to split (slowly) at excessive torque, but shattering is bad, since it's sudden and you can go flying... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 16, 2010, at 14:18, Walt Zarnoch

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread Curt Raymond
I forgot to mention they seem quite resistant to rust... Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:20:59 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?)  OT: Cheap tools... Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread LarryT
Do you have more than one dealer nearby? If so, check both for prices - sometimes another dealer will have dramatically different prices - one of our dealers (we have 2) that really are competitive. They changed the diff fluid for me and charged $25 - plus they washed the car when done ;-)

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It'll get new tires after the alignment. I have heard that the change from old to new tires can affect the alignment and that it's best to get an alignment right AFTER you get new tires. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Dieselhead
I found an extremely good independent shop that did my 300D. It cost close to $100 with the tax, etc added in. I would think Okie City has a good shop that can do MBs. The one I found does MBs frequently, and knew the 124 well. I think it was the best alignment I have had on an MB in the

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
The nearest Dealer is 120 miles away, but a visit there would be followed by a visit to Kaleb and other friends in the area, so it wouldn't be a single purpose trip. The only good indie frame/alignment shop that I knew of closed, so it's into the phone book to try and find another one. On Sun,

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way! However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:03:52 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard that the change from old to new tires can affect the alignment and that it's best to get an alignment right AFTER you get new tires. I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires,

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way! However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference. You cannot align a car unless the car's weight is on the wheels.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I know we have a chain here, Robertson Tire, that supposedly one of their stores in tulsa has the spreader bar. OK Don wrote: It will get aligned. I'm not sure that it was right before the work, and is most likely different now from what is was before. The tires are getting thin, and one has a

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would think you would get it done at the same time. They put the new tires on, then align before you leave. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It'll get new tires after the alignment. I have heard that the change from old to

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, come on by for a visit. I think the aussies will be here pretty soon, you will have to come up for that. OK Don wrote: The nearest Dealer is 120 miles away, but a visit there would be followed by a visit to Kaleb and other friends in the area, so it wouldn't be a single purpose trip.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
The Aussies are coming here after they leave you --- On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: yea, come on by for a visit. I think the aussies will be here pretty soon, you will have to come up for that. OK Don wrote: The nearest Dealer is 120 miles

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh ok, I see. I was not sure which way they were going. When are they supposed to be here? OK Don wrote: The Aussies are coming here after they leave you --- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
They scheduled leaving Claremore June 18th. or 19th. --- so I asume they're arriving there the 16th. or 17th. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: oh ok, I see. I was not sure which way they were going. When are they supposed to be here? OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason. Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something Regina will be in a C collar so I dont think she would want to though. I guess I would have to do all the work!! OK Don wrote: They scheduled leaving Claremore June 18th. or

[MBZ] idea for next okieQ

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hey OK Don, did you know we had a WWII sub on display up here? I didnt. Its over in Muskogee, we went there today. Its pretty cool. That would be a good place to tour on an OkieQ. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap tools...

2010-05-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes but the craftsman laser etched sockets have the size stamped as well. Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I forgot to mention they seem quite resistant to rust... Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:20:59 -0700 From: Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
Ouch - what ahppened to her? We could help (cooking and the such) should you plan it then. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason. Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something Regina

Re: [MBZ] idea for next okieQ

2010-05-16 Thread OK Don
I'd forgotten about it, but yes - I saw it years ago. My second boss spent WWII in one of those. There's a lot of cool stuff in Okie land. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Hey OK Don, did you know we had a WWII sub on display up here? I didnt. Its

[MBZ] Regina in a C collar? [was: Re: Hunting 124 update]

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 19:15:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Regina will be in a C collar so I dont think she would want to though. What is she in a C collar for?! I guess I would have to do all the work!! I have been in the situation where Shirley wasn't up to guests,

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 16 May 2010 19:19:29 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alignment mechanics are pretty fussy about tire pressure, but it seems like the tires wouldn't matter a lot as long as the machine reads off the rim and not off the turntables the tires are sitting on. How could the tire

Re: [MBZ] hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread RELNGSON
I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way!  However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference... Since alignments are done with the car on it's wheels, I suspect you

Re: [MBZ] Regina in a C collar? [was: Re: Hunting 124 update]

2010-05-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2010 19:15:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Regina will be in a C collar so I dont think she would want to though. What is she in a C collar for?! I think she mentioned on the other list a while back that she was going to have

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Frederick
The car must be standing on the tires in driving position for the suspension to be aligned -- the wheels move in complex ways as they go up and down, and to track true, they must be in driving position. Tires can do strange things, but won't change the alignment, or indeed affect it at

Re: [MBZ] fwd:hacking

2010-05-16 Thread RELNGSON
.RLE: Real life data for me, 39 years of driving diesel cars with mechanical injection, primarily Mercedes Benz. Utterly reliable. Hundreds of thousands of miles, maybe approaching a million of reliable  service. That is real life data So then, all of the hundreds (perhaps

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
she is having some sort of spine surgery OK Don wrote: Ouch - what ahppened to her? We could help (cooking and the such) should you plan it then. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason.

Re: [MBZ] Hunting 124 update

2010-05-16 Thread John Reames
Umm how about unevenness of wear on the tires? I'd think that a feathered edge on a tire would make it want to lean out... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 16, 2010, at 21:31, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 16 May