[MBZ] (D)evolution

[Jim Cathey]

Remember that $800 '87 300E that was at the U-Pull in their
drive-it-off lot?  I about had a heart attack until I saw the
"E", but I remember thinking it was pretty close to being a
parts car.  200+kmi.

Well, now it is.  I was at the yard today, and that car had
moved into the rape and pillage zone.  I guess they didn't
get their price, nor even any tempting offers!  It's been
raped some already, the console has been ripped in half.
I checked, and the sunroof is a mess.  I did buy the
Becker 780 (?) out of it.  Toying with going for the
outside temp display module, and maybe the airbag.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Desert Rat]

Crown Vic V8500 V6. And there is a model 500SEL!

On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > Sad, as I
> > suspect it, like the older Crown Vic styles, are basically decent
> > quality IF they would just get out of the early 1950s for suspension
> > and drivetrain design..
> >
>
> Actually, the 500 doesn't share anything with the Crown Vic.  The
> chassis and drivetrain are all new (except maybe the engine -- not sure
> about that.)  It can be had with RWD and a conventional automatic, or
> all wheel drive and a CVT.  It looks bland but it actually contains a
> lot of new technology for Ford.
>
>
> David Brodbeck
> '83 300D Turbo
>
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot

[BillR]

Let us just say that my kitchen [which will not be in use] will be without a
fire extinguisher while I travel the next few days.  That visor has been in
the trunk about 4 -5 months, so all of the driving conditions you mentioned
were done, and I have not had it out or looked at it since I put it in.
Sounds like it might be missing a heat shield, though.  Will have that
looked at as soon as I arrive in SC.
BillR 

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Hi Bill,
I'm not really sure exactly where the hole is you described - but my W123
has an aluminum heat shield over the rear muffler (or is that a resonator?)
with the exhaust pipes having no protection. I've never noticed any heat in
the trunk even after extended high speed drives, but that's in a 240D and
not a 300 engined model.

What kind of driving did you do during the period the plastic piece melted? 
Any extended slow, creeping type of driving?  Perhaps some sitting in one
spot for a while?

I'm surprised the exhaust retained that much heat so far from the engine.

Good luck -- I doubt it would ignite anything except something really flimsy
like paper or something flammable. - But I'd definately keep an extinguisher
handy.

Sincerely,
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Subject: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot


>A couple of months ago I bought a plastic sunroof visor thinking it would
> look nice, though I never got around to installing it.  It has been flat 
> and
> pushed up against the seat wall of the trunk.  I just took it out to pack
> for our trip and noticed that it had melted in one spot.  The plastic 
> cover
> was completely gone in that area and the thick plastic visor has heated
> enough to damage it quite severely in that one spot.  I noticed that there
> is an opening about a foot in from the left side and 8 - 10 " back from 
> the
> seat wall.  No rust in the trunk and the rest of the floor seems pretty
> good.  I will first be happy I didn't stick an oily engine rag back there,
> but now I am more than a bit concerned about what would let that much heat
> come up through the trunk.  Obviously the tail pipe is the source, but is
> this usual, even if not to this degree, or something to keep a fire
> extinguisher handy for until I can get it checked out?  I leave in the
> morning to see my mechanic son for a few days prior to his shipping out, 
> and
> am hoping that it will not be dangerous to drive it from Jax to Columbia -
> and do an Italian tune-up on one of  the long hills between I95 and I77.
> Thanks
> BillR
> 1981 300SD  'EM'  274k miles  Delvac
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D for sale in FL

[l02turner]

I bet it won't last long!

Sincerely,
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If that were a thousand miles closer, I'd be hard-pressed to pass it
up.  Great price, and I love that Green exterior.

On 4/13/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I spotted this on Cars.com and inquired about the VIN, so I could see
what options it has. I'm looking for ASD and heated seats, of which
this car has neither. It's green with cream Tex interior. Sounds very
nice, if it had the options I wanted I'd be all over it. Thought I'd
pass it along in case anyone else is interested... more details from
the seller are in the email attached below:


-- Forwarded message --
From: bpdodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 13, 2006 1:37 PM
Subject: 1992 mercedes


I am not the original owner. I bought the car from a man who works for
mercedes in jacksonville here at their port where they import into
usa. His mother in Ocala owned it originally, I think. The VIn is
WDBEB28D6NB643790.  I used it as a spare car for my grown sons and me.
I think it would be great for a kid going to college. Car looks like
new on inside and outside. new a/c total system. everything works.

1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo, 196kmi
$4,500 (Or Best Offer)
Seller: bill dodson
Daytime Phone: 904-599-9120
Mobile Phone: 904-536-1717
Vehicle Location: saint augustine, FL

bill dodson

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'84 300D (211k)
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Re: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot

[l02turner]

Hi Bill,
I'm not really sure exactly where the hole is you described - but my W123 
has an aluminum heat shield over the rear muffler (or is that a resonator?) 
with the exhaust pipes having no protection. I've never noticed any heat in 
the trunk even after extended high speed drives, but that's in a 240D and 
not a 300 engined model.


What kind of driving did you do during the period the plastic piece melted? 
Any extended slow, creeping type of driving?  Perhaps some sitting in one 
spot for a while?


I'm surprised the exhaust retained that much heat so far from the engine.

Good luck -- I doubt it would ignite anything except something really flimsy 
like paper or something flammable. - But I'd definately keep an extinguisher 
handy.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot



A couple of months ago I bought a plastic sunroof visor thinking it would
look nice, though I never got around to installing it.  It has been flat 
and

pushed up against the seat wall of the trunk.  I just took it out to pack
for our trip and noticed that it had melted in one spot.  The plastic 
cover

was completely gone in that area and the thick plastic visor has heated
enough to damage it quite severely in that one spot.  I noticed that there
is an opening about a foot in from the left side and 8 - 10 " back from 
the

seat wall.  No rust in the trunk and the rest of the floor seems pretty
good.  I will first be happy I didn't stick an oily engine rag back there,
but now I am more than a bit concerned about what would let that much heat
come up through the trunk.  Obviously the tail pipe is the source, but is
this usual, even if not to this degree, or something to keep a fire
extinguisher handy for until I can get it checked out?  I leave in the
morning to see my mechanic son for a few days prior to his shipping out, 
and

am hoping that it will not be dangerous to drive it from Jax to Columbia -
and do an Italian tune-up on one of  the long hills between I95 and I77.
Thanks
BillR
1981 300SD  'EM'  274k miles  Delvac



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Re: [MBZ] FASCINATION DVD in ENGLISH & NTSC format!

[l02turner]

The link you provided in your 2nd note worked for me - point to the url and 
right click - select "Copy Shortcut" and paste on in a browser window -


Took me straight to the Fascination page -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] FASCINATION DVD in ENGLISH & NTSC format!


AH! This is strange. OK, This is what you have to do:

 http://www.mb-classic-collection.com/

 then click:

 Produktübersicht
 Books - CD - DVD- Poster
 DVD

 It's the 6th one down.

 Chris



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 cool

 CM


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Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that David wrote:

> A danger in this type of suspension is if the camber angle becomes too 
> extreme the contact patch can get very small as the tire rides up on the 
> edge of its tread.  This was part of the reason Corvairs (which also had 
> swing-axle rear suspensions) had such squirrelly handling.  Large 
> amounts of positive camber are especially dangerous because the axle can 
> try to tuck under the car under heavy cornering loads.

Just for the sake of complete information, it was only the early
Corvairs (1960 to 1964) that had a swing axle. From 1965 to 1969 they
had dual-joint half-shafts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvair
http://www.vex.net/~guru/corvair/aot6/aot6.htm
http://www.corvaircorsa.com/handling02.html

   Philip, bein' picky *grin*

[MBZ] This Just Chaps My Ass

[Rick Knoble]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989&page=1

As much as I like Mobil 1, this is BS.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Hey, he deserves it.  ExxonMobil made the largest corporate profit ever, and
he played some role in that.  XOM shareholders love him, and if you don't
like it buy some stock in them and share in the spoils.

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Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[David Brodbeck]

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Not to re-route the thread, but it seems that on some vehicles, there is
"wheel tilt" (for lack of the proper jargon) designed in intentionally. The
most dramatic example I can think of is the Baja bugs - Volkswagon Bugs
converted to a dune buggy-type setup. Wheel top tilted out in this case if I
recall. And I understand why - to allow for greater suspension travel -
followed by I think.
  


Older VW Bugs have a swing-axle suspension.  The axle pivots in only one 
place, near the differential, so as it goes up and down the 'wheel tilt' 
(it's called 'camber') changes.  Visualize holding a wheel in your hand, 
by the axle, and swinging your arm up and down at the shoulder, and you 
get the picture.  At stock ride height, a Bug will have slight negative 
camber (top of the wheel tilted in.)  If it's lowered or heavily loaded, 
it will have more negative camber.  If someone's jacked up the 
suspension for more ground clearance, it will have positive camber (top 
of the wheel tilted out.)


The twin I-beam front suspension on 2WD Ford trucks and vans up 'till 
the mid-90s worked in a similar way.  If you've ever been next to one on 
a rough stretch of freeway, the camber changes are very obvious as the 
suspension works up and down.


A danger in this type of suspension is if the camber angle becomes too 
extreme the contact patch can get very small as the tire rides up on the 
edge of its tread.  This was part of the reason Corvairs (which also had 
swing-axle rear suspensions) had such squirrelly handling.  Large 
amounts of positive camber are especially dangerous because the axle can 
try to tuck under the car under heavy cornering loads.



My question is: How in the heck does that
not cause very uneven tread wear?
  


It *does*, which is one of the reasons for rotating tires regularly.  
Bugs were known for wearing the inside edges of their rear tires, and 
Ford vans tended to wear the outside edges of their front tires.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[David Brodbeck]

Peter Frederick wrote:
Sad, as I 
suspect it, like the older Crown Vic styles, are basically decent 
quality IF they would just get out of the early 1950s for suspension 
and drivetrain design..
  


Actually, the 500 doesn't share anything with the Crown Vic.  The 
chassis and drivetrain are all new (except maybe the engine -- not sure 
about that.)  It can be had with RWD and a conventional automatic, or 
all wheel drive and a CVT.  It looks bland but it actually contains a 
lot of new technology for Ford.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] FASCINATION DVD in ENGLISH & NTSC format!

[Christopher McCann]

AH! This is strange. OK, This is what you have to do:
  
  http://www.mb-classic-collection.com/
  
  then click:
  
  Produktübersicht
  Books - CD - DVD- Poster
  DVD
  
  It's the 6th one down.
  
  Chris
  
  
  
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  Try this:
  
  
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  cool
  
  CM
  

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A couple of months ago I bought a plastic sunroof visor thinking it would
look nice, though I never got around to installing it.  It has been flat and
pushed up against the seat wall of the trunk.  I just took it out to pack
for our trip and noticed that it had melted in one spot.  The plastic cover
was completely gone in that area and the thick plastic visor has heated
enough to damage it quite severely in that one spot.  I noticed that there
is an opening about a foot in from the left side and 8 - 10 " back from the
seat wall.  No rust in the trunk and the rest of the floor seems pretty
good.  I will first be happy I didn't stick an oily engine rag back there,
but now I am more than a bit concerned about what would let that much heat
come up through the trunk.  Obviously the tail pipe is the source, but is
this usual, even if not to this degree, or something to keep a fire
extinguisher handy for until I can get it checked out?  I leave in the
morning to see my mechanic son for a few days prior to hi

Re: [MBZ] FASCINATION DVD in ENGLISH & NTSC format!

[Sunil Hari]

WHO'S GOING TO BUY IT FIRST?  I WANT A COPY!

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>
>   cool
>
>   CM
>
>
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
> -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
> -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf"
> -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
> -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
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> -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
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[MBZ] FASCINATION DVD in ENGLISH & NTSC format!

[Christopher McCann]

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  cool
  
  CM
  

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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf"
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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  Try this:
  
  
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  CM
  

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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf"
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
  
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[MBZ] why post palindromes?

[Christopher McCann]

Wulf is a few miles from 212,212. I was thinking that I would not post  it, but 
then decided to and the reason being is that we post our  problems, but rarely 
does anyone post, "My car has been working just  great and I had a wonderful 
drive to so and so, etc" Palindrome  postiong sort of says that.
  
  Cheers to all of our cars, in spite of their occassional old age "aches and 
pains"!
  
  Chris
  
  
  
  

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-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
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Just noticed a new Infinity with the same veritical, wall-like sides.

And yes, I bet that's true - the feeling protected by high-sided vehicles.
Consider all the crash test evidence pitting passenger cars against trucks
and SUVs in side impacts.

Brian
83 240D


On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > It's the trend now - the tall, wall-like sides to the car. The Chrysler
> 300
> > is the starkest example. And yes, it makes for shorter height windows.
>
> I heard once that this is the result of market research.  People want to
> feel safe in their cars, and high beltlines make them feel protected.
>
> Personally, it makes me feel claustrophobic.  I like low belt lines and
> tall windshields that give me lots of visibility.
>
> > Similar trend in pickups as well - the "I'm higher than you" look to th=
e
> > fenders and hoods.
>
> The new Ford pickups look terrible from behind, to me.  The tailgate
> looks so disproportionately tall.  It's got what looks like an acre of
> sheet metal in it.
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Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Trampas wrote:

> My understanding is that a lot of the R12 replacement is a mixture of
> propane and butane, thus flammable. I use duracool in my cars which is this
> propane/butane stuff, it works great and does not require any changes of
> hoses or oil. There is some debate on the safety, but I figure it is no
> worse than gasoline under 60psi of pressure. 

I have heard that because there is oil, even R-12 acts flammable. And
that the oil is more likely to ignite than the butane or propane.

But I haven't tried it myself, so I don't really know...

Philip, thinking it's about time to check the AC systems

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D for sale in FL

[Zeitgeist]

If that were a thousand miles closer, I'd be hard-pressed to pass it
up.  Great price, and I love that Green exterior.

On 4/13/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spotted this on Cars.com and inquired about the VIN, so I could see
> what options it has. I'm looking for ASD and heated seats, of which
> this car has neither. It's green with cream Tex interior. Sounds very
> nice, if it had the options I wanted I'd be all over it. Thought I'd
> pass it along in case anyone else is interested... more details from
> the seller are in the email attached below:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: bpdodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Apr 13, 2006 1:37 PM
> Subject: 1992 mercedes
>
>
> I am not the original owner. I bought the car from a man who works for
> mercedes in jacksonville here at their port where they import into
> usa. His mother in Ocala owned it originally, I think. The VIn is
> WDBEB28D6NB643790.  I used it as a spare car for my grown sons and me.
> I think it would be great for a kid going to college. Car looks like
> new on inside and outside. new a/c total system. everything works.
>
> 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo, 196kmi
> $4,500 (Or Best Offer)
> Seller: bill dodson
> Daytime Phone: 904-599-9120
> Mobile Phone: 904-536-1717
> Vehicle Location: saint augustine, FL
>
> bill dodson
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'87 300TD intercooler (212k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Peter Frederick]

There is some negative camber designed in to provide better tire patch 
on hard cornering, and usually the negative camber increases as the 
wheel moves up to compensate for body roll.  On the W124 it's visible 
but not dramatic when the suspension is in good shape.  When the spring 
link bushings go, and/or the camber link rubber, it's very obvious, 
ditto when accompanied by sagging springs or missing spring seat rubber.


Obvious negative camber means something needs to be fixed, usually.

Tire wear is also a bit higher on the inside, but at normal condtions, 
the tread sits pretty flat on the road because the radial sidwalls are 
fairly soft.  BMWs have more negative camber than Benz, for instance, 
but I've never seen that much more tire wear in the back.  Rotating 
tires correctly will also even things out.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Zoltan Finks]

Not to re-route the thread, but it seems that on some vehicles, there is
"wheel tilt" (for lack of the proper jargon) designed in intentionally. The
most dramatic example I can think of is the Baja bugs - Volkswagon Bugs
converted to a dune buggy-type setup. Wheel top tilted out in this case if I
recall. And I understand why - to allow for greater suspension travel -
followed by I think.

But there are less dramatic examples too. It sort of looks like the wife's
Honda CR-V is this way just a bit. My question is: How in the heck does that
not cause very uneven tread wear?

Brian
83 240D

Curt wrote:

...pertains to the drivers side rear wheel which was canted over with the
top of the wheel stuffed into the wheelwell.

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

[Peter Frederick]

You CAN get the chain it with the rail in place, but it's a real PITA.  
I dropped both ends while doing so, so I can't recommend it.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Jim Cathey]

  It was a 4xx (420, 460? I forget) SEL and the thing I wanted to ask 
about


420 SEL, no doubt.

pertains to the drivers side rear wheel which was canted over with the 
top of the wheel stuffed into the wheelwell. I've seen this sort of 
behavior


A camber problem like that can also be the result of a wreck that
bent the support arm.  Was so on our SDL when I (foolishly) bought
it.  A rear subframe assembly from a front-end wreck is what cured
that, and a bad wheel bearing too.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Sunil Hari]

everythign is back together, and working properly.  I still have to properly
torque the diff bolts, and correct the ATF fluid level.  Tonight's project,
probably.

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>
> Hey Sunil,
> Did you finish everything n]?  get the tranny back together?  everything
> else?
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
>
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> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D
>
>
> > Every 3.5L diesel engine that left the MB plant had bad connecting rods.
> > They only fixed the problem after the production run ended.  MB tended
> to
> > work with owners who had bad engines (high oil consumption) and less
> than
> > 100Kmi.  Beyond that, the owner was stuck.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Did the 95 350D have bad engines?  I thought it was only low 90s.
> >>
> >> Anyhoo, the electronics scares me off.
> >>
> >> Harry Watkins
> >> Newton, MS
> >> 86 SDL Silver
> >> 85 300D Euro
> >> 86 SDL Gold
> >> 81 240D manual trans
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm cheap too, but selectively so. Otherwise, I'd still be driving my
> >> 1969
> >> > Plymouth Valiant. Sure, it's a little aggravating to replace the
> >> > plastic
> >> > headrest gear on my S350, but I really like having a headrest that
> goes
> >> up
> >> > and down at the touch of a switch. You can buy an entire Plymouth for
> >> the
> >> > cost of a Mercedes blower motor. Of course the Plymouth did not have
> AC
> >> to
> >> > begin with. My, aren't we an odd bunch?
> >> >
> >> > -Dave Walton
> >> > 94S350, 99E300
> >> >
> >> > On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

[Desert Rat]

Haynes manual page 62,
"step 4. Remove EGR tube and chain tensioner lock bolt."
"step 5, On engines with the Type A hooked steel tensioning rail,
remove the rail."

On 4/14/06, Potter, Tom  E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of all the manuals available, Chilton's is the least useful, in my
> opinion. Get the factory manuals. You will never regret it. Just think,
> you have already wasted enough time to pay for a factory manual.
>
> Tom Potter (Who spent many years writing technical manuals)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:18 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d
>
>
> Chilton!!!  I curse you!!! ( just looked and both
> my manuals are chiltons)
>
> Rat bastards  That step is missing in both
> books!!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > What?  None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned
> > this
> > > in the procedures  [EMAIL PROTECTED] it!
> >
> > Step 3 in the '79 300D engine manual:  "Remove
> > tensioner"
> > Step 1 in the 201 602 engine manual: "Remove
> > tensioner"
> >
> > -- Jim
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

[MBZ] 107 door Skins and seats

[Donald Snook]

I sent an email requesting if anyone has any interior door panels (skins
and cardboard backing) and/or seats for a 1978 107.  However, my email
rejects some of the Mercedes digest as spam (I know I really need to set
up a G-Mail account).   So, if anyone has anything like this or has
suggestions about where to find them let me know.  You can replay
directly if you like.  

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 126K 

Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)

[Mathieu J . Cama]

The '78 and 79' SDs had the fast idle knob. They stopped them on the 
'80 model year cars.


Mathieu
www.oldworldauto.com

On Apr 14, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:


For some reason, they stopped with the turbo cars.  Later diesels all
have electronic idle control.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Weeping Servo...Weeping Driver

[Dan & Sandy Steadman]

Re: [MBZ] Weeping Servo...Weeping Driver

Bob writes:
I suppose I need to devise a systematic troubleshooting methodology for this
and get it right this year.

Bob,
Here is some information I have accumulated over the years of working on 
this system:


If the ACC Servo has been replaced with an aluminum body servo, make sure 
that you used nylon attachment bolts, and nylon washers to mount the servo, 
or you might encounter intermittent electrical problems with the servo.


Everything in the ACC system is vacuum controlled through the ACC Servo. It 
is possible that a vacuum line came off or loose. The switch that turns on 
the fan is a vacuum actuated relay. This relay (or vacuum switch) is located 
just above the radio and behind the vertical switch assembly. It is the one 
on the far right side of the relay bank. Near this relay is a coil of green 
wire located near the passenger foot-well near the glove box. This coil of 
wire is a controlled vent for the vacuum system. Don't try to find a place 
to connect it - one end is plugged into a vacuum line; the other end is open 
to allow air to enter the vacuum system at a very slow rate. If this wire is 
missing, or has fallen out, the blower will only run in defrost. (The vent 
line is a German engineers idea of a practical joke).


Defrost mode, by the way, bypasses all of these circuits.

Assuming that the vacuum is OK, check the servo and servo control system. 
This system consist of a temperature sensing resistor loop, an ACC control 
amplifier (located behind the glove box), and the dreaded servo (located 
under the hood, to the right on the engine).


The temperature is sensed/controlled by a sensor chain. The sensor chain 
consists of a series of resisters; the ambient air temperature sensor 
(located on the firewall just behind the engine), the temperature dial, the 
in-car temperature sensor (located in the dash in the right hand speaker 
grill, and the resister in the servo.  If there is a problem in the resistor 
chain, it is likely with the sensor in the dash. This sensor work by drawing 
in car air through a tube connected to the blower. If this tube is 
deteriorated, replace it with a piece of water pipe foam insulation. 
Generally, a deteriorated sensor pipe will cause erratic temperature 
control. The temperature dial resister can have a dead spot near the end.


To check out the resister chain,
1. Remove the ACC amplifier (located behind the glove box) and connect a 
ground to pin 3 of the connector plug.
2. At the servo electrical connector, connect an OHM meter between pins 1 
and pin 2 on the left of the connector.
3. Place the temperature wheel at max (85 degrees) and the resistance should 
be between 2.2K ohms, and 4.7K ohms.
4. Place the temperature wheel at 65 degrees, and the resistance should be 
between 1K ohm and 3.5 K ohms.


When you finish, re-install the amplifier.

If the circuit is open at any place in the resistor chain, the result is 
heat. If the chain is OK, then the problem might be the amp.


To check the amplifier, connect a voltmeter between pins 1 and 7. With the 
ignition switch in the on position, the voltage should be about a volt. Move 
the temperature wheel from cold to hot. The voltage should increase to about 
5 volts, the servo motor should move, and when the servo finds it home, the 
voltage will drop back to about a volt. If it does not vary, then the amp is 
bad.  If you listen to the servo, you should be able to hear the servo motor 
running to find the new position.


To check the motor in the servo, disconnect the electrical connectors on the 
servo, and connect 12 volts between pins 4 and 5. The motor should run in 
one direction and stop. Reverse the voltage and it should run in the other 
direction. If it runs, only run it momentarily in each direction. Pin 1 on 
the connector is on the left (towards the engine) side of the servo.


There is an inline fuse, located in the relay box on the fender, as I 
recall. The in-line fuse powers the amplifier when the car is turned off to 
run the servo to a parked position. The purpose of the parked position is to 
avoid having the system start up where it was when you last turned off the 
car. If the fuse is in there and the servo is operating properly, the servo 
will run to PARK and shut itself off after you turn off the car. If the 
servo is seized, the servo will run the battery down overnight for no 
apparent reason - because the motor in the servo is always trying to move 
the servo to a parked position and can't, thus, the system runs the battery 
down trying to park the servo all night. It does not hurt to leave the 
inline fuse disconnected. The system will work correctly, but the servo will 
not park. For most people, this is generally not a problem.


While you are working around the servo, check the operation on the aux water 
pump located beside the servo. The auxiliary water pump tends to short when 
they stop working. If the pump is bad, it

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Dave Wakin]

Has anyone seen one of the new suburban / yukons? It took me a few times, 
but now when I see one, all I see is a Ford Expedition.


Dave W 

Re: [MBZ] gas prices -

[Peter Frederick]

Profit is probably required, although not strictly necessary for actual 
operations.  The problem we have in the US (and Asia, most likely) is 
that expectations for profit LEVELS are way out of line.


Used to be anything above 5% gross profit was considered borderline 
predatory and inflationary (mostly the later, for good reason).  Now 
everyone expects 25% (newspapers in particular) and higher (Microsoft, 
for example).


More than 5% profit on a transaction is highly deflationary (reduces 
the value of the currency), and the higher the profit the worse the 
deflation.  Hence we have "billionaire" software developers selling 
software at thousands of times the cost of producing it,  executives 
making hundreds of millions of dollars a year, etc -- in the old days 
(before all the people who remember the 1920s and immediate aftermath 
retired), this would have been stopped to avoid a major economic crash, 
but now the subject is totally ignored.


High profit, low wage economies always collapse in a rash of bank and 
business failures (read the history of the stock market and banking 
industry between 1870 and 1912, for instance), high wage low profit 
economies grow in real value (late 1950s through 1968, when the US 
goverment decided to do Vietnam AND Medicare without tax increases to 
pay for it).


Economics is a social science, after all!

Peter

Re: [MBZ] Fw:A Unique Piece of Spam... HONDA PROMOTION RESULT 2006

[Bob Rentfro]

Indeed...it appears they have the real Einsteins working these scams...

Bob Rentfro


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What the heck is a "ponuce sterling"?  (Yes, I know they mean pounds, but
where did "ponuce" come from?)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Peter Frederick]

Broken spring.  Fairly common in areas where salt is used a lot.  Could 
also be the W126 rusting control arm syndrom.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)

[Peter Frederick]

For some reason, they stopped with the turbo cars.  Later diesels all 
have electronic idle control.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Peter Frederick]

I'm also much more enthusiastic about the Ford 500 than the Chrysler 
300 -- we had a 1978 Ford Fairmont wagon for my mother, and it had very 
good visibility and a good (high) seating position.  Sadly, the rest of 
the design was crap -- I always got a back ache driving it as I was 
always sliding off the seat forward and butt friction was all the kept 
me in place.  Makes for a sore behind.  Turning radius was larger that 
that of an ocean liner in shallow water, etc.


I was behind a Ford 500 yesterday, and it could EASILY be mistaken for 
a W124 chassis benz from behind -- I'm not fond of copying, but at 
least they chose to copy a good car!  They look pretty good to me, but 
I'm not by any means in the "center of opinion" in the US.  Sad, as I 
suspect it, like the older Crown Vic styles, are basically decent 
quality IF they would just get out of the early 1950s for suspension 
and drivetrain design..


Now if they can just make the running gear anything like the European 
stuff they might sell some cars -- a young friend of mine was looking 
at SUVs (which he needs much like a hole in his head, he's in grad 
school!), and he was astonished and the manuverability of the Land 
Rover.  I laughed, since I've driven far more German cars than anything 
else, and will now never go back.  Needless to say, I DID suggest he 
not buy a Rover (pre 2005, anyway) -- they are not reliable.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Peter Frederick]

It's the 1930's all over again -- if you can't see out, you can't see 
all the things wrong with the world.  Same reason houses built in the 
1930's had small, dark rooms with tiny windows instead of the large, 
open "prairie" style houses of the 1920's.


Parking a Chrysler 300 must be hell, especially the "male sex organ" 
version psuedo station wagon -- that rear window must be all of 9" tall 
for vision purposes!


Peter

Re: [MBZ] gas prices -

[Rich Thomas]

OO those EVIL profits!  The "P" word!!!  I wouldn't 
advertise that aspect of your business too much, you might invite 
demonstrations and such from the more progressive members of society.


(Your Friday engine starter -- I need another few hundred irrelevant 
emails in my in-box)


--R

MICHAEL ESH wrote:

I love it when people send the note out about not buying fuel from the major oil companies.  I work for a small family owned gas / convenience store company and our bonus is based among other things, profit.  So come on down!  
It seems some people don't understand, we are in business to generate a profit that will sustain our business for years to come and support the families of all who work here and provide the customer with a service.  The way we do this is to provide the best service we can and hope the Customer comes back to us. 


The way I am going to be able to afford gasoline/diesel is to drive less or 
earn more.  And by the way we pay the same price you do for fuel.  No discounts 
here.
Mike
Family Vehicles
1981 300SD - My Daily Driver
1982 300TD - Daughters Daily Driver
1973 220 D - Sold to daughters boyfriend as daily driver
1995 Dodge Caravan - Wife's daily driver
1978 MGB - My other car to work on.
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Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Rich Thomas]

I see that often too on the older Benzes -- saw one the other day and 
wondered the same thng -- except here in Houston it could be that they 
are heavily loaded with "undocumented" Mexican/South American 
agricultural products (or people, or both).


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John Berryman wrote:


On Apr 14, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 


Gang,

 On my way home last night I found myself following another  
Mercedes. This is unusual enough that I'd have noted it in my mind  
anyway.
 It was a 4xx (420, 460? I forget) SEL and the thing I wanted to  
ask about pertains to the drivers side rear wheel which was canted  
over with the top of the wheel stuffed into the wheelwell. I've  
seen this sort of behavior on other vehicles when heavily loaded  
but in this case it appeared (although it was hard to tell) that  
the passenger's side wheel was straight up and down like normal.
 So any idea what was going on there? Is this a common failure  
with 126 cars? Didn't seem safe to me...


 -Curt
   



	It is most likely worn bushings in the rear suspension, lower  
control arm being the most common suspect. All the other bushings may  
also be shot. A broken coil spring or squashed spring rubber can  
cause what you saw too.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] they have not stole the car yet, will wait till after auction

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yep

Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:54:19 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-great-looking-benz-for-its-age-reach-me-at-785-304-0116_W0QQitemZ4630505045QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




Yes, the fact that the interior was photographed through the windows makes
one wonder if he really owns the car, doesn't it?



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] mileage milestone

[Luther Gulseth]

Our company has never (I'm treading lightly with this word) been litigated for 
something like this.  It's hard to know when a tire/recap will blow like that.  
It usually happens suddenly, and rarely you can tell by looking at the tire.
Now, if the company/driver knew the tire was flat or already blown out and was 
driving on it, that's a different story..but that's very hard to prove with 
out internal knowledge of the company and their communication.

Luther

~This makes me wonder: (and not to stoke the fire of anger) but, did the
~tread fly off the semi's tire and hit you directly, or was it kicked up from
~the road as it lay there?
~
~The reason I ask is that I wonder if the trucking company could be held
~liable for this sort of thing.
~
~Again, I know it's too late, so I'm not trying to bring up bad feelings
~about it, I'm just objectively asking so that I might be equipped to deal
~with this if it happens to me.
~
~Brian
~83 240D
~



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[MBZ] Car I passed last night

[Curt Raymond]

Gang,
   
  On my way home last night I found myself following another Mercedes. This is 
unusual enough that I'd have noted it in my mind anyway.
  It was a 4xx (420, 460? I forget) SEL and the thing I wanted to ask about 
pertains to the drivers side rear wheel which was canted over with the top of 
the wheel stuffed into the wheelwell. I've seen this sort of behavior on other 
vehicles when heavily loaded but in this case it appeared (although it was hard 
to tell) that the passenger's side wheel was straight up and down like normal.
  So any idea what was going on there? Is this a common failure with 126 cars? 
Didn't seem safe to me...
   
  -Curt


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On Apr 14, 2006, at 9:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> Gang,
>
>   On my way home last night I found myself following another  
> Mercedes. This is unusual enough that I'd have noted it in my mind  
> anyway.
>   It was a 4xx (420, 460? I forget) SEL and the thing I wanted to  
> ask about pertains to the drivers side rear wheel which was canted  
> over with the top of the wheel stuffed into the wheelwell. I've  
> seen this sort of behavior on other vehicles when heavily loaded  
> but in this case it appeared (although it was hard to tell) that  
> the passenger's side wheel was straight up and down like normal.
>   So any idea what was going on there? Is this a common failure  
> with 126 cars? Didn't seem safe to me...
>
>   -Curt

It is most likely worn bushings in the rear suspension, lower  
control arm being the most common suspect. All the other bushings may  
also be shot. A broken coil spring or squashed spring rubber can  
cause what you saw too.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[l02turner]

Hey Sunil,
Did you finish everything n]?  get the tranny back together?  everything 
else?


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D



Every 3.5L diesel engine that left the MB plant had bad connecting rods.
They only fixed the problem after the production run ended.  MB tended to
work with owners who had bad engines (high oil consumption) and less than
100Kmi.  Beyond that, the owner was stuck.



On 4/14/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Did the 95 350D have bad engines?  I thought it was only low 90s.

Anyhoo, the electronics scares me off.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans


> I'm cheap too, but selectively so. Otherwise, I'd still be driving my
1969
> Plymouth Valiant. Sure, it's a little aggravating to replace the 
> plastic

> headrest gear on my S350, but I really like having a headrest that goes
up
> and down at the touch of a switch. You can buy an entire Plymouth for
the
> cost of a Mercedes blower motor. Of course the Plymouth did not have AC
to
> begin with. My, aren't we an odd bunch?
>
> -Dave Walton
> 94S350, 99E300
>
> On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >



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Re: [MBZ] Generator

[Potter, Tom E]

I was taught to never use emery cloth on electrical components because
the media was conductive. We always used sandpaper on generator
armatures, etc.

Tom Potter

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Humid down there most of the year isn't it? The points almost
undoubtably have some crud on them.
  Pull the flywheel off, take some fine emery cloth and touch up the
rust which has probably developed on the magnets. Then find the points
and either come up with a points file and clean 'em up or take a note
card and drag it between them a couple times. Sandpaper/emery cloth is
no good here, the sand will get in there and the points will never be
good again.
  
I went through this a couple weeks ago waking up my Cub Cadet 72 from
its winter slumber.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:08:26 -0400
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Note to self:  Just because the can is the right color ...
 
On my 'new' $25 generator I have changed the Champion plug to an E3, 
the oil
to Mobil 1 15W 50, and the old gas to fresh.  I then gave it a shot of
contact cleaner a couple of times as I had grabbed the wrong can.  
Nothing
happened with that or with the ether when I sprayed that.  It turns 
over
pretty easily [but I can't give it the strong pulls I once did].  It 
does
not catch at all, but after a couple of pulls I hear air trying to get 
into
the tank [- or perhaps out as it had just come from the station and was
warming up?]  The power light does flash a time or two, but nothing
resembling a cough or a fire.  I pulled the plug and it seems there is 
no
spark.  I assume there is a kit somewhere that will let me fix that.   
I
didn't change the gap on the new plug - old one set at 20,000/th I 
think,
new one looks the same, but with a double point.  Manual says nothing 
about
plugs except to change it if needed, and to take it to a service center 
if
it doesn't start.  Suggestions on the next step? 
The generator [Homelite LR4400] has a side shaft 8hp Briggs.  I have 
never
taken one of these apart. 
 
Also - Does anyone know if there is a kit to convert this to an 
electric
start?  I know that was an option when this was new, but I believe now 
that
Homelite is a part of John Deere and not a separate company.  Not sure 
where
to look for something like that.
Thanks list folks.
BillR
Jacksonville FL  
1981 300SD   274k miles Delvac 1



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Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement

[Trampas]

My understanding is that a lot of the R12 replacement is a mixture of
propane and butane, thus flammable. I use duracool in my cars which is this
propane/butane stuff, it works great and does not require any changes of
hoses or oil. There is some debate on the safety, but I figure it is no
worse than gasoline under 60psi of pressure. 

Trampas

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Will probably buy a case of that stuff and give it a try

Fmiser wrote:
> rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> Do you have to use different hoses?  Was reading up on it and some 
>> people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in 
>> it.  Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or something like that.
>>
>> Fmiser wrote:
>>> At some time fairly close to Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500,
>>> rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134?

> 
>>> R-406A, Autofrost.
>>>
>>> Engineered to be a R-12 topoff, but EPA won't allow that.
>>>
>>> I've been using it in my rear-A/C equiped Suburban for about 6 years
now.
> 
> Nope. Same hoses, orifice, condenser, and evaporator. No high-pressure
> cutout switch needed 'cause the temp/pressure curve is quite close to
> R-12. Use the same service hoses and gauges as R-12. The only thing I
> changed on the car was the dryer.
> 
> It does weigh a bit less, so my 25lb cylinder of 406A is equivalent to
> a 30lb cylinder of R-12.
> 
> --
>   Philip, not a true expert, just been there. 
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Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

[Potter, Tom E]

Of all the manuals available, Chilton's is the least useful, in my
opinion. Get the factory manuals. You will never regret it. Just think,
you have already wasted enough time to pay for a factory manual.

Tom Potter (Who spent many years writing technical manuals)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d


Chilton!!!  I curse you!!! ( just looked and both
my manuals are chiltons)

Rat bastards  That step is missing in both
books!!





--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > What?  None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned
> this
> > in the procedures  [EMAIL PROTECTED] it!
> 
> Step 3 in the '79 300D engine manual:  "Remove
> tensioner"
> Step 1 in the 201 602 engine manual: "Remove
> tensioner"
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Sunil Hari]

Every 3.5L diesel engine that left the MB plant had bad connecting rods.
They only fixed the problem after the production run ended.  MB tended to
work with owners who had bad engines (high oil consumption) and less than
100Kmi.  Beyond that, the owner was stuck.



On 4/14/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Did the 95 350D have bad engines?  I thought it was only low 90s.
>
> Anyhoo, the electronics scares me off.
>
> Harry Watkins
> Newton, MS
> 86 SDL Silver
> 85 300D Euro
> 86 SDL Gold
> 81 240D manual trans
>
>
> > I'm cheap too, but selectively so. Otherwise, I'd still be driving my
> 1969
> > Plymouth Valiant. Sure, it's a little aggravating to replace the plastic
> > headrest gear on my S350, but I really like having a headrest that goes
> up
> > and down at the touch of a switch. You can buy an entire Plymouth for
> the
> > cost of a Mercedes blower motor. Of course the Plymouth did not have AC
> to
> > begin with. My, aren't we an odd bunch?
> >
> > -Dave Walton
> > 94S350, 99E300
> >
> > On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D for sale in FL

[Sunil Hari]

That's my car, options-wise, but with 90,000 fewer miles.  I would have
loved that color combo - I'm stuck with smoke silver/beige interior.

On 4/13/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I spotted this on Cars.com and inquired about the VIN, so I could see
> what options it has. I'm looking for ASD and heated seats, of which
> this car has neither. It's green with cream Tex interior. Sounds very
> nice, if it had the options I wanted I'd be all over it. Thought I'd
> pass it along in case anyone else is interested... more details from
> the seller are in the email attached below:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: bpdodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Apr 13, 2006 1:37 PM
> Subject: 1992 mercedes
>
>
> I am not the original owner. I bought the car from a man who works for
> mercedes in jacksonville here at their port where they import into
> usa. His mother in Ocala owned it originally, I think. The VIn is
> WDBEB28D6NB643790.  I used it as a spare car for my grown sons and me.
> I think it would be great for a kid going to college. Car looks like
> new on inside and outside. new a/c total system. everything works.
>
> 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo, 196kmi
> $4,500 (Or Best Offer)
> Seller: bill dodson
> Daytime Phone: 904-599-9120
> Mobile Phone: 904-536-1717
> Vehicle Location: saint augustine, FL
>
> bill dodson
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[MBZ] gas prices -

[MICHAEL ESH]

I love it when people send the note out about not buying fuel from the major 
oil companies.  I work for a small family owned gas / convenience store company 
and our bonus is based among other things, profit.  So come on down!  
It seems some people don't understand, we are in business to generate a profit 
that will sustain our business for years to come and support the families of 
all who work here and provide the customer with a service.  The way we do this 
is to provide the best service we can and hope the Customer comes back to us.   
  

The way I am going to be able to afford gasoline/diesel is to drive less or 
earn more.  And by the way we pay the same price you do for fuel.  No discounts 
here.
Mike
Family Vehicles
1981 300SD - My Daily Driver
1982 300TD - Daughters Daily Driver
1973 220 D - Sold to daughters boyfriend as daily driver
1995 Dodge Caravan - Wife's daily driver
1978 MGB - My other car to work on.

Re: [MBZ] mileage milestone

[Zoltan Finks]

This makes me wonder: (and not to stoke the fire of anger) but, did the
tread fly off the semi's tire and hit you directly, or was it kicked up from
the road as it lay there?

The reason I ask is that I wonder if the trucking company could be held
liable for this sort of thing.

Again, I know it's too late, so I'm not trying to bring up bad feelings
about it, I'm just objectively asking so that I might be equipped to deal
with this if it happens to me.

Brian
83 240D


On 4/14/06, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > Ohh, that sucks, Tom. Sorry to see that. Hope you can enjoy the 333,333
> mark
> > anyway. I always wonder about those pieces of semi tread. One more
> reason I
> > don't ride a motorcycle anymore.
>
> I always wondered about them, too.  But now I know.  I am immensely
> enjoying the big skidmark it left on the hood; it is better than any
> odometer pic.  Hopefully it won't wash off too easily.
>
> Sunil, I've had the 500k km badge for a while now.  Don't think I can
> keep the rust at bay long enough to get the million km badge.
>
> Kaleb, please let me know offline how much for a wiper arm.
>
> Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Zoltan Finks]

I can see that. The 500 looks like it may be a more reasonable design.

On the subject of visibility: Yes, '80's European design seems to be optimal
- I need look no farther than my 83 240D. As someone who is adamant about
checking blind-spots, I get a very pleasing feeling every time I change
lanes in my 123 - effortless to confirm my safety zone. Best I've driven in
terms of blind spots (not counting my 92 Sportster).

The worst I've driven is the Chevy Cavaliler (with some "Z" something option
to please the college kids) that we rented recently. The rear deck was very
high, and it was hard to see out of it. And now that I've driven one, I've
noticed that when I am behind one of these gems, I can scarcely see the
driver's head - (doesn't help matters that that head is often attached to
a 5' 2" piece of jail-bait on a cel phone).

Brian
83 240D

On 4/14/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4/13/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It's the trend now - the tall, wall-like sides to the car. The Chrysler
> > 300
> > is the starkest example. And yes, it makes for shorter height windows. I
> > have to chuckle at Ford's emulation in the Fusion, and the 500.
>
>
> I see a superficial resemblance from the outside but having recently sat
> in
> a Chrysler 300 and a Ford 500 back-to-back at a car show, I have to say
> that
> their designs are totally different.  The Chrysler feels like sitting in a
> bathtub.  Visibility is horrible for even moderately tall people (I'm
> 5'11"
> and a smidge if I stretch).
>
> The Ford, on the other hand, has a nice upright seating position and
> plenty
> of glass.  Visibility is not up to '80s-European-car standards (my
> benchmark
> being the E28-chassis BMW), but it's much better than average.
>
> I actually quite like some of the new Fords.  I think the 500 would be a
> terrific chassis for the diesel V6 that Ford puts in the Jaguar X-type in
> Europe---it'd be about the size and weight of a 300SDL with much more
> power
> (and better fuel economy, I imagine).
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo
> '93 Isuzu Trooper
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Re: [MBZ] Fw:A Unique Piece of Spam... HONDA PROMOTION RESULT 2006

[Alex Chamberlain]

What the heck is a "ponuce sterling"?  (Yes, I know they mean pounds, but
where did "ponuce" come from?)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 4/13/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is an odd one...first time I've gotten one where something besides
> ebay/paypal/amazon was used.
>
> I hope these people get caught and share a prison cell with a large,
> smarmy
> being who uses them as their bee-hotch
>
>
> Bob Rentfro
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:48 AM
> Subject: HONDA PROMOTION RESULT 2006
>
>
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> >
> >
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> > the
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> > consequently
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> >
> >
> >
> > Congratulations!!!
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> from
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> of
> > our international promotion program. Due to mixed up of some
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> > claims has been processed and your funds remitted to you.This is a part
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Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)

[David Brodbeck]

Peter Frederick wrote:
> It just pulls the linkage a bit to give a faster idle -- otherwise they 
> tend to stall when very cold.

I wish they'd kept that feature in later cars.  I have to drive mine
with one foot on the gas and one on the brake, for the first few
minutes, or it wants to stall.  Idle speed on a cold start is only
500-600 RPM, not enough to keep it lit.


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

[David Brodbeck]

hue wong wrote:
> I guess I didn't even know chiltons were that bad of
> manuals!!!  the things I don't know

They're pretty sketchy, often leaving steps out.  (I think they must
have a trademark on the phrase "Installation is the reverse of
removal.") They also contain a lot of generic stuff that's the same in
every manual and not very helpful.

In my opinion the progression, from worst to best, goes like this:
Chilton
Haynes
Clymer
Bentley

I dunno if you can get Clymer manuals anymore.  I had one for a VW Bus,
once, and it was pretty good.  Haynes manuals are cheap and usually have
good photos.  They make a good companion book for getting your bearings
when using Bentley manuals, which often have photos that are poorly
reproduced.  (Some of the photos in the Bentley for my Vanagon were just
black blobs.)  My main quarrel with the Haynes manuals is they're pretty
thin, so there are a lot of jobs they just plain don't cover.

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 4/13/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's the trend now - the tall, wall-like sides to the car. The Chrysler
> 300
> is the starkest example. And yes, it makes for shorter height windows. I
> have to chuckle at Ford's emulation in the Fusion, and the 500.


I see a superficial resemblance from the outside but having recently sat in
a Chrysler 300 and a Ford 500 back-to-back at a car show, I have to say that
their designs are totally different.  The Chrysler feels like sitting in a
bathtub.  Visibility is horrible for even moderately tall people (I'm 5'11"
and a smidge if I stretch).

The Ford, on the other hand, has a nice upright seating position and plenty
of glass.  Visibility is not up to '80s-European-car standards (my benchmark
being the E28-chassis BMW), but it's much better than average.

I actually quite like some of the new Fords.  I think the 500 would be a
terrific chassis for the diesel V6 that Ford puts in the Jaguar X-type in
Europe---it'd be about the size and weight of a 300SDL with much more power
(and better fuel economy, I imagine).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[David Brodbeck]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> It's the trend now - the tall, wall-like sides to the car. The Chrysler 300
> is the starkest example. And yes, it makes for shorter height windows.

I heard once that this is the result of market research.  People want to
feel safe in their cars, and high beltlines make them feel protected.

Personally, it makes me feel claustrophobic.  I like low belt lines and
tall windshields that give me lots of visibility.

> Similar trend in pickups as well - the "I'm higher than you" look to the
> fenders and hoods.

The new Ford pickups look terrible from behind, to me.  The tailgate
looks so disproportionately tall.  It's got what looks like an acre of
sheet metal in it.

Re: [MBZ] mileage milestone

[tom savage]

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Ohh, that sucks, Tom. Sorry to see that. Hope you can enjoy the 333,333 mark
anyway. I always wonder about those pieces of semi tread. One more reason I
don't ride a motorcycle anymore.


I always wondered about them, too.  But now I know.  I am immensely 
enjoying the big skidmark it left on the hood; it is better than any 
odometer pic.  Hopefully it won't wash off too easily.


Sunil, I've had the 500k km badge for a while now.  Don't think I can 
keep the rust at bay long enough to get the million km badge.


Kaleb, please let me know offline how much for a wiper arm.

Tom

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Zoltan Finks]

It's the trend now - the tall, wall-like sides to the car. The Chrysler 300
is the starkest example. And yes, it makes for shorter height windows. I
have to chuckle at Ford's emulation in the Fusion, and the 500.

Similar trend in pickups as well - the "I'm higher than you" look to the
fenders and hoods.

What gets me most is how Chrysler has managed to achieve such revered status
lately - "snoop-dog" even sporting a 300. How fickle we are! For many years
Chrysler owners were laughingstocks. Just strikes me funny - the trends.
That Chrysler 300 is on the level of the exotic these days.

Brian

On 4/13/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jeff Zedic wrote:
> >
> > I think MOST of the GM line-up is hideous.  All those right angles and
> > high riding bodies..too vanilla for me thank you very much!
>
> How about those Caddys with the tall door sheetmetal, there is so
> little room for glass that the windows end up looking like gunslits
> on a bunker. Grandma must need six phone books to sit on if she
> wants to see out of that car.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Harry Watkins]

Did the 95 350D have bad engines?  I thought it was only low 90s.

Anyhoo, the electronics scares me off.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans


> I'm cheap too, but selectively so. Otherwise, I'd still be driving my 1969
> Plymouth Valiant. Sure, it's a little aggravating to replace the plastic
> headrest gear on my S350, but I really like having a headrest that goes up
> and down at the touch of a switch. You can buy an entire Plymouth for the
> cost of a Mercedes blower motor. Of course the Plymouth did not have AC to
> begin with. My, aren't we an odd bunch?
>
> -Dave Walton
> 94S350, 99E300
>
> On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >

Re: [MBZ] they have not stole the car yet, will wait till after auction

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:54:19 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-great-looking-benz-for-its-age-reach-me-at-785-304-0116_W0QQitemZ4630505045QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Yes, the fact that the interior was photographed through the windows makes
one wonder if he really owns the car, doesn't it?



Craig

Re: [MBZ] WOW

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280SE-Rare-Mercedes-280SE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ4630984674QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Not bad.  The first thing I noticed on the interior shots, though, is that
whoever did the stereo install was an amateur---notice the bulging, ripply
vinyl around the speakers in the front doors.  Kind of makes you wonder what
other indignities the car has sufferred that aren't evident from the photos.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im going to have to add that to the quotes page

Luther Gulseth wrote:


ain't that the truth!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:34:30 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:




cheap is the way to go, I am very cheap








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Re: [MBZ] NON MB, but car related: Trunk Monkeys.......

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:43:00 -0700 Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Seems like this dealer in Sandy, Oregon has some unique options
> 
> Real funny!

Yes, indeed!



> PS...  Don't know if they'll get thru...

There are links at the bottom of the email and clicking on the links
downloaded the files just fine. Change the suffix from bin to wmv and
they're just great.


> TrunkMonkey-ChaperoneEd..bin
> Trunk_Monkey4.bin
> Trunk_Monkey3.bin
> Trunk_Monkey1.bin


So what happened to Trunk_Monkey2.bin?! Are you holding out on us?!



Craig

[MBZ] 1992 300D for sale in FL

[Dave M.]

I spotted this on Cars.com and inquired about the VIN, so I could see
what options it has. I'm looking for ASD and heated seats, of which
this car has neither. It's green with cream Tex interior. Sounds very
nice, if it had the options I wanted I'd be all over it. Thought I'd
pass it along in case anyone else is interested... more details from
the seller are in the email attached below:


-- Forwarded message --
From: bpdodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 13, 2006 1:37 PM
Subject: 1992 mercedes


I am not the original owner. I bought the car from a man who works for
mercedes in jacksonville here at their port where they import into
usa. His mother in Ocala owned it originally, I think. The VIn is
WDBEB28D6NB643790.  I used it as a spare car for my grown sons and me.
I think it would be great for a kid going to college. Car looks like
new on inside and outside. new a/c total system. everything works.

1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo, 196kmi
$4,500 (Or Best Offer)
Seller: bill dodson
Daytime Phone: 904-599-9120
Mobile Phone: 904-536-1717
Vehicle Location: saint augustine, FL

bill dodson

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Dave M.]

Sunil,

You are correct. If you buy one that still has straight rods and round
cylinders, you can replace the rods with the new style, and the engine
should last as long as any MB diesel powerplant. The W140 has lots of
fancy gadgets that are expensive to fix when the act up, though. It's
a very nice car but not for the faint of wallet.

:)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:02:53 -0400
> From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D
>
>
> But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods installed,
> right?
>
> Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if all
> the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new connecting
> rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000 or so
> (assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last overengineered,
> non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Luther Gulseth]

ain't that the truth!

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:34:30 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



cheap is the way to go, I am very cheap





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'82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
'82 300D  (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] OH MY!!

[jjayj]

i love it...boys at play...

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I'm cheap too, but selectively so. Otherwise, I'd still be driving my 1969
Plymouth Valiant. Sure, it's a little aggravating to replace the plastic
headrest gear on my S350, but I really like having a headrest that goes up
and down at the touch of a switch. You can buy an entire Plymouth for the
cost of a Mercedes blower motor. Of course the Plymouth did not have AC to
begin with. My, aren't we an odd bunch?

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have never had an expensive cheap mercedes, if you have parts, can do
> the work yourself, cheap is the way to go, I am very cheap
>
> dave walton wrote:
> > I doubt there are many cars more expensive to own than a 'cheap'
> Mercedes.
> > Although admittedly, I was only considering cars that work to begin
> with.
> > That leaves out the British, French, and Yugoslavians.
> >
> > -Dave Walton
> > 94S350, 99E300
> >
> > On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I thought "money pit" was almost exclusively reserved for old british
> >> cars?
> >>
> >> On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> They are fine cars if you like to tinker a lot to keep them going and
> >> get
> >>> in
> >>> the habit of buying parts on eBay before you need them. If you had to
> >> pay
> >>> retail for every little thing that broke, you would discover the true
> >>> definition of "money-pit". Most of the expense is labor - at least
> thus
> >>> far
> >>> (knock on wood).
> >>>
> >>> -Dave Walton
> >>> 94S350, 99E300
> >>>
> >>> On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods
>  installed,
>  right?
> 
>  Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine -
> if
> >>> all
>  the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new
> >>> connecting
>  rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000
> >> or
> >>> so
>  (assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last
> >>> overengineered,
>  non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.
> 
>  Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a ne=
w
>  engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm

[MBZ] they have not stole the car yet, will wait till after auction

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-great-looking-benz-for-its-age-reach-me-at-785-304-0116_W0QQitemZ4630505045QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MBZ] OH MY!!

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1968-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4630505259QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MBZ] WOW

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280SE-Rare-Mercedes-280SE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ4630984674QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have never had an expensive cheap mercedes, if you have parts, can do 
the work yourself, cheap is the way to go, I am very cheap


dave walton wrote:

I doubt there are many cars more expensive to own than a 'cheap' Mercedes.
Although admittedly, I was only considering cars that work to begin with.
That leaves out the British, French, and Yugoslavians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought "money pit" was almost exclusively reserved for old british
cars?

On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

They are fine cars if you like to tinker a lot to keep them going and

get

in
the habit of buying parts on eBay before you need them. If you had to

pay

retail for every little thing that broke, you would discover the true
definition of "money-pit". Most of the expense is labor - at least thus
far
(knock on wood).

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods
installed,
right?

Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if

all

the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new

connecting

rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000

or

so

(assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last

overengineered,

non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.

Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a new
engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm talking how much would

people

on
this list really pay?  Please give two prices - one on a car needing

new

rods, one on a car needing a new engine.

On 4/13/06, dave walton < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That car actually has none of the available options for that year.

It's

as

cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof -

which

in
Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

eBay # 4629081300 is for a 95 S350D with 187K miles but no mention

of

ever

having major engine problems.  Is it possible this car is one of

the

very

few without the dreaded con rod problem?  It's a nice looking W140

-

appears
to be loaded with all options.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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[MBZ] a HELL of a job

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You all probably remember my SDL with no brake lights?  Well anyways 
tracked it down to the switch.  It was a heck of a job getting it out. 
Pulled one from a 123(much easier it seems).  Though the fun was over 
but NO, I had a HELL of a time getting that sucker back in.  Looks 
simple but its sort of a rube goldberg sort of deal trying to get the 
nut to go over the the switch and thread it down all with 1 hand. Ended 
up having to take out half the crap under the dash just to half way get 
to it.  Was just about ready to just pull the whole damn brake pedal 
assembly when i finally got it!!  That was ALMOST as bad as trying to 
replace the expansion valve except I didnt get a bad sunburn on my belly

Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Will probably buy a case of that stuff and give it a try

Fmiser wrote:

rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:

Do you have to use different hoses?  Was reading up on it and some 
people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in 
it.  Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or something like that.


Fmiser wrote:

At some time fairly close to Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500,
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:


Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134? 



R-406A, Autofrost.

Engineered to be a R-12 topoff, but EPA won't allow that.

I've been using it in my rear-A/C equiped Suburban for about 6 years now.


Nope. Same hoses, orifice, condenser, and evaporator. No high-pressure
cutout switch needed 'cause the temp/pressure curve is quite close to
R-12. Use the same service hoses and gauges as R-12. The only thing I
changed on the car was the dryer.

It does weigh a bit less, so my 25lb cylinder of 406A is equivalent to
a 30lb cylinder of R-12.

--
  Philip, not a true expert, just been there. 


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Re: [MBZ] 123 euro lights

[Hendrik Riessen]

The square euro lights where only available on the 280E and CE early on but 
during the model upgrade in 82 where then standard on the lesser models. I 
know they put them on the upgraded 230E but not 100% on which other models 
they became the standard.


Hendrik
with the square lights

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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 euro lights


What's all this dithering about the two types of lights on that W123 
website?


There were two types of light assemblies. The one with the two round ones,
under glass, was for the lower end models. The other was for the 280E and
probably 300D.

I ordered a set of lamps for my '78 300D and the round/round type was 
sent. I

didn't like them because they looked too much like the US equipment. Back
they went and the correct ones arrived as shown on the left of the 
pictures.


Probably the best Euros I ever had with bright bulbs (can't recall what
wattage what with it being 25 years ago) and relays. Not as good as 
present day

bi-xenons but great for the time.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[dave walton]

I doubt there are many cars more expensive to own than a 'cheap' Mercedes.
Although admittedly, I was only considering cars that work to begin with.
That leaves out the British, French, and Yugoslavians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I thought "money pit" was almost exclusively reserved for old british
> cars?
>
> On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > They are fine cars if you like to tinker a lot to keep them going and
> get
> > in
> > the habit of buying parts on eBay before you need them. If you had to
> pay
> > retail for every little thing that broke, you would discover the true
> > definition of "money-pit". Most of the expense is labor - at least thus
> > far
> > (knock on wood).
> >
> > -Dave Walton
> > 94S350, 99E300
> >
> > On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods
> > > installed,
> > > right?
> > >
> > > Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if
> > all
> > > the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new
> > connecting
> > > rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000
> or
> > so
> > > (assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last
> > overengineered,
> > > non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.
> > >
> > > Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a new
> > > engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm talking how much would
> > people
> > > on
> > > this list really pay?  Please give two prices - one on a car needing
> new
> > > rods, one on a car needing a new engine.
> > >
> > > On 4/13/06, dave walton < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That car actually has none of the available options for that year.
> > It's
> > > as
> > > > cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof -
> > which
> > > > in
> > > > Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.
> > > >
> > > > -Dave Walton
> > > > 94S350, 99E300
> > > >
> > > > On 4/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > eBay # 4629081300 is for a 95 S350D with 187K miles but no mention
>
> > of
> > > > ever
> > > > > having major engine problems.  Is it possible this car is one of
> the
> > > > very
> > > > > few without the dreaded con rod problem?  It's a nice looking W140
> -
> > > > > appears
> > > > > to be loaded with all options.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > > > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > > > > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > > > > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > > > > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Sunil Hari]

I thought "money pit" was almost exclusively reserved for old british cars?

On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They are fine cars if you like to tinker a lot to keep them going and get
> in
> the habit of buying parts on eBay before you need them. If you had to pay
> retail for every little thing that broke, you would discover the true
> definition of "money-pit". Most of the expense is labor - at least thus
> far
> (knock on wood).
>
> -Dave Walton
> 94S350, 99E300
>
> On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods
> > installed,
> > right?
> >
> > Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if
> all
> > the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new
> connecting
> > rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000 or
> so
> > (assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last
> overengineered,
> > non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.
> >
> > Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a new
> > engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm talking how much would
> people
> > on
> > this list really pay?  Please give two prices - one on a car needing new
> > rods, one on a car needing a new engine.
> >
> > On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > That car actually has none of the available options for that year.
> It's
> > as
> > > cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof -
> which
> > > in
> > > Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.
> > >
> > > -Dave Walton
> > > 94S350, 99E300
> > >
> > > On 4/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > eBay # 4629081300 is for a 95 S350D with 187K miles but no mention
> of
> > > ever
> > > > having major engine problems.  Is it possible this car is one of the
> > > very
> > > > few without the dreaded con rod problem?  It's a nice looking W140 -
> > > > appears
> > > > to be loaded with all options.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > > > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > > > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > > > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)

[Jim Cathey]

My '78 240D has a knob on the dash which advances the IP somewhat for 
cold


It just pulls on the throttle linkage a bit.  High idle, in other words.
Newer cars do the same thing automatically, via idle speed regulation.
So far as I know, timing on these cars is _only_ affected by RPM.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Those crappy servos

[RELNGSON]

When my '78 300D was only two years old, the servo sprung a big leak. Made it 
the eight miles home and paid $118 for a new one which I installed myself, of 
course.

The underhood failures continued. The water pump, the radiator, the AC 
condenser, the power steering pump, the aux heater pump, the AC compressor..

I think the alternator and maybe the master cylinder went the distance but 
every other underhood component except the engine itself failed and all during 
the warranty period, thank God.

And then there were the thirteen injectors...

So, jumping from the frying pan into the fire, I swapped it for an '85 190E 
2.3.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[dave walton]

They are fine cars if you like to tinker a lot to keep them going and get in
the habit of buying parts on eBay before you need them. If you had to pay
retail for every little thing that broke, you would discover the true
definition of "money-pit". Most of the expense is labor - at least thus far
(knock on wood).

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods
> installed,
> right?
>
> Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if all
> the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new connecting
> rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000 or so
> (assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last overengineered,
> non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.
>
> Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a new
> engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm talking how much would people
> on
> this list really pay?  Please give two prices - one on a car needing new
> rods, one on a car needing a new engine.
>
> On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > That car actually has none of the available options for that year. It's
> as
> > cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof - which
> > in
> > Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.
> >
> > -Dave Walton
> > 94S350, 99E300
> >
> > On 4/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > eBay # 4629081300 is for a 95 S350D with 187K miles but no mention of
> > ever
> > > having major engine problems.  Is it possible this car is one of the
> > very
> > > few without the dreaded con rod problem?  It's a nice looking W140 -
> > > appears
> > > to be loaded with all options.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:

> Do you have to use different hoses?  Was reading up on it and some 
> people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in 
> it.  Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or something like that.
> 
> Fmiser wrote:
> > At some time fairly close to Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500,
> > rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134? 

> > R-406A, Autofrost.
> > 
> > Engineered to be a R-12 topoff, but EPA won't allow that.
> > 
> > I've been using it in my rear-A/C equiped Suburban for about 6 years now.

Nope. Same hoses, orifice, condenser, and evaporator. No high-pressure
cutout switch needed 'cause the temp/pressure curve is quite close to
R-12. Use the same service hoses and gauges as R-12. The only thing I
changed on the car was the dryer.

It does weigh a bit less, so my 25lb cylinder of 406A is equivalent to
a 30lb cylinder of R-12.

--
  Philip, not a true expert, just been there. 

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Rick Knoble]

That car actually has none of the available options for that year. It's as
cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof - which 
in

Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.



or as K'leb would say. a Jew.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D

[Sunil Hari]

But the 350SDLs are fine after they have a new engine or new rods installed,
right?

Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if all
the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new connecting
rods in and have a very reliable car, right?  Costs you $2500, $3000 or so
(assuming you don't do it yourself) and you have the last overengineered,
non-electronic S-class.  Seems like a good way to buy a car.

Another 350SDL question - how much is one really worth, WITHOUT a new
engine?  I'm not talking Kaleb pricing; I'm talking how much would people on
this list really pay?  Please give two prices - one on a car needing new
rods, one on a car needing a new engine.

On 4/13/06, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That car actually has none of the available options for that year. It's as
> cheap as you could buy one. Does not even have the glass sunroof - which
> in
> Florida is the sign of a true tightwad.
>
> -Dave Walton
> 94S350, 99E300
>
> On 4/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > eBay # 4629081300 is for a 95 S350D with 187K miles but no mention of
> ever
> > having major engine problems.  Is it possible this car is one of the
> very
> > few without the dreaded con rod problem?  It's a nice looking W140 -
> > appears
> > to be loaded with all options.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> >
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Harbor Freight R-134 guages?

[Kevin J. Slater]

I have 3 cars which have R-134 systems in some sort of state of charge. 
Is it worth it to get an inexpensive set of guages to help me determine 
the health of the systems? Only 1 of the 3 vehicles would merit serious 
repair and even that is somewhat of a question at this point.


Does anyone have a pointer to a general R-134 A/C system checkup / howto?

...Kevin
87 300TD 283k mi