Re: [MBZ] Generator Controls

2006-12-21 Thread Chris Kueny
Here are the diesel generators I would love to play with: http://utterpower.com/listeroi.htm http://utterpower.com/ Chris K Cayce, SC www.hardydiesel.com Murphy Switch Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Thingummybobs

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread Ralph W
Wow, compared to this one I got the deal of the century on Zedic's wagon. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, all the junkyards in Awa used to be filled with rusty ol cars in the 70s and 80s All the 115s around here rusted away along ago. the 65 190Dc I drove as a winter car in the 80s was worse than that. I still have that car as a parts car, although other than the trans and diff, I am not su

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Kaleb, Have you never been to a Michigan junk yard? That's all there is! Mike - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread ts
Do the females in your life slam car doors much harder than needed, as the ones in mine do? Never did understand that. Yes something about a car door people think they are closing a 300 lb door on a ship, never understood the need to SLAM A CAR DOOR Tom - Original Message - From: "C

Re: [MBZ] 124 2.5 ('90/'91?) muffler replacement

2006-12-21 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Larry, John Peterson and I changed the rear pipe muffler combo on my 90 330D 2.5 about a year ago and it was an easy job. There was just a tiny hole at end of muffler with soot and minimal noise. Werner is right-the donuts were tricky-but I was used to them from my 240D. HTH Dwight Dwight E. G

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
hahahahaha Loren Faeth wrote: Klebie, For that subject line, I am going to send you pictures of the 76 I am scrapping. The one you refer to is pristing in comparison. When i drove it home, the LR fender was flapping in the breeze and every time I went over a bump, pieces fell off. I dro

Re: [MBZ] considering brake repair....

2006-12-21 Thread Loren Faeth
Nothing tricky if you have bled brakes before. I'd replace the hoses, flush out the fluid and consider using silicone fluid. I know the purists will flame me for the heresy. I have silicone in 3 or 4 MBs for 5-6 years with no problems or complaints. If you use DOT4 fluid, be sure you don't

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: > > Yes. This fellow had a 220V generator that did _not_ have a center > tap, which meant that unless the two 110V sides of the home's wiring > were _exactly_ balanced as to load (and they never, ever are) one > side was going to see more than 110V, and one less. Up to and >

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Rentfro
I didn't think it was possible to take that many photos of one car. That must be "the one" people lust over. Bob R - Original Message - From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman! http://www.mercedes30

Re: [MBZ] considering brake repair....

2006-12-21 Thread Allan Streib
Argh -- screwed up my "from" email address on that last post. Corrected now... Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Long time since I posted -- been busy, occasionally glancing at the > digests > > Anyway, I just got a quote from my mechanic for about $1,400 for > complete brake replace

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Mileage 239 K Asking price is $9750 Patrick is the sales rep No records There will be a hole in the RR window when the car phone antenna is removed. On 12/21/06, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you have to ask, you can't afford it! Fred Moir Lynn MA >great photos - no p

Re: [MBZ] B1 gear-up

2006-12-21 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: > on 12/20/06 11:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Of course there is, and it doesn't make any difference in incidents like this >> one. Once the normal sequence of things in an approach to landing has been >> interrupted by something, a minor dist

[MBZ] 124 2.5 ('90/'91?) muffler replacement

2006-12-21 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Larry - My car's exhaust consists of 3 pieces - front pipe, mid pipe and resonator, and rear pipe and muffler. The front pipe (engine to mid-joint) ends in a flare, that connects via a donut to the mid section flare end that includes a resonator (or first muffler). The flared joint is clamped

Re: [MBZ] 201 Door Lock Stuff

2006-12-21 Thread Frederick W Moir
Jim C. et al. Thanks for the reply. Time to go out and brave the winter weather (50 degrees F ), Fred Moir 190DT etc I think I'll put on something by The Doors. > 87 190Dt. Passengers side inside door lock button just stopped I'm thinking that a new > vacuum pucky is necessary. Wisdom pleas

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread Frederick W Moir
If you have to ask, you can't afford it! Fred Moir Lynn MA great photos - no price?! On 12/21/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com > > Tim > 1982 300TD (still for sale) > 1991 300TE 4Matic > Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513

[MBZ] Generator Controls

2006-12-21 Thread Frederick W Moir
www.hardydiesel.com Murphy Switch Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Thingummybobs

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread Loren Faeth
If you have to ask, you can't afford it. At 11:03 AM 12/21/2006, you wrote: great photos - no price?! On 12/21/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com > > Tim > 1982 300TD (still for sale) > 1991 300TE 4Matic > > ___

Re: [MBZ] B1 gear-up

2006-12-21 Thread Steve MacSween
on 12/20/06 11:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of course there is, and it doesn't make any difference in incidents like this > one. Once the normal sequence of things in an approach to landing has been > interrupted by something, a minor distraction for example, then all the

Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!

2006-12-21 Thread Sunil Hari
great photos - no price?! On 12/21/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com Tim 1982 300TD (still for sale) 1991 300TE 4Matic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.co

Re: [MBZ] Welding Stainless exhaust?

2006-12-21 Thread jwreames
Gee, thats funny. Guess what mine did about 10-15k mi ago? The pipe itself is not stainless and totally rusted through all around where the muffler was welded to it. You could probably fill it in with enough material, but I'd think it would rust through pretty quickly now that it is already wea

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
It doesn't even have a "tittle". On 12/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Klebie, For that subject line, I am going to send you pictures of the 76 I am scrapping. The one you refer to is pristing in comparison. When i drove it home, the LR fender was flapping in the breeze and ev

Re: [MBZ] 220D seller on CRACK!

2006-12-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's 6 300SDs if Kaleb were buying. On 12/20/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's an ad for a 1970 220D for $3200. for that price, it sure does need lots of work. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/251587390.html I could buy nearly 3 of my 300SD's for that! Kevin in Hills

Re: [MBZ] 220D seller on CRACK!

2006-12-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
I hate it when they want top $$ (firm!!) yet are too cheap to post even one photo On 12/20/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's an ad for a 1970 220D for $3200. for that price, it sure does need lots of work. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/251587390.html I could buy near

Re: [MBZ] 75 300d

2006-12-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sweet car! [drool] I remember shopping for a W115 300D back in 1983 and how many of these cars were already crapped out at that time. This will be in great demand one day (to the extent a sedan can ever achieve collector status). The lack of exterior rust and interior ooginess is truly amazing.

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread LarryT
The Becker Grand Prix in my 91 300D 2.5T doe the same thing - the radio normally turns on/off with the ignition switch. But it can be turned on with the Power button on the radio - it must have more than one power wire hooked up - It's actually pretty handy like that - and the 30 min time lim

Re: [MBZ] Correct tools for 124 half shaft?

2006-12-21 Thread LarryT
Werner, I need to replace the rear 1/2 of my exhaust system - rec;d the replacement from Rusty yesterday - had plannned to take it to a shop & have them replace it -- it sounds like it may be so easy that I should try it? You didn;t have trouble breaking it loose from the front half? I alw

[MBZ] Welding Stainless exhaust?

2006-12-21 Thread dave walton
Does anyone know offhand what type of wire I should use for mig welding the factory exhaust? This is on the 99 E300 at the rear muffler. No rust, it just cracked off. Probably a bad weld to begin with. Thanks -Dave Walton 82 240D, 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread ernest breakfield
"the exact temp"? surely you jest,... would that be in the sun, or in the shade? overnight, or midday? i didn't plot the temps for the entire weekend it was parked and noticed frost on standing water in shaded places at the same time there wasn't frost in others,... so, it was "around freezing"

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread Loren Faeth
Klebie, For that subject line, I am going to send you pictures of the 76 I am scrapping. The one you refer to is pristing in comparison. When i drove it home, the LR fender was flapping in the breeze and every time I went over a bump, pieces fell off. I drove it 750 miles that way. I was

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread jwreames
On my 1999 E300Dt, you can turn the radio on with the key out/off but it will only stay on for 30 mins at a clip. -j. -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think Jim was describing a radio that shuts itself off with the key, > > but you can

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Cathey
I think Jim was describing a radio that shuts itself off with the key, but you can turn it back on without the key. Exactly. You have to act to kill your own battery. Unless the thing is broken and has a mind of its own, which may describe the original poster's. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Riessen wrote: > > The problem there is you might turn the radio down while you are driving and > then forget to switch it off. End result = dead battery. > I think Jim was describing a radio that shuts itself off with the key, but you can turn it back on without the key. A lot of lat

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread David Brodbeck
Hendrik Riessen wrote: > The problem there is you might turn the radio down while you are driving and > then forget to switch it off. End result = dead battery. > BTDT -- I've had a few VWs, none of which had the radio wired into a keyed circuit. It's surprising how long it'll run before the

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
The problem there is you might turn the radio down while you are driving and then forget to switch it off. End result = dead battery. - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: > Undervoltage will kill motors, though well pumps these days > usually have some solid-state protection circuitry located at > the bore head. I had a motor/generator repairman tell me of the time a contractor killed "every appliance in the house" when he had a non-center tappe

Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Could have been worse, could have been hit by a truck without crumple zone. Ohh what a feeling, squashed like a bug. Anyway the weights: C = 1500kg E = 1650kg S = 1950kg Toy Cory = 1200kg Those are kerb weights. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, Decembe

Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-21 Thread Peter Frederick
S Class is about 3800 lbs, plus occupants and luggage -- that's what the SDL is listed for, the new ones won't be any heavier. Not a Suburban. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Cathey
I already know my genny won't kill the well pump. If you use the wrong genny (maybe Jim Cathey can tell us why) the well pump is the most expensive thing you could fry, so it's a bad place to start. Undervoltage will kill motors, though well pumps these days usually have some solid-state protect

Re: [MBZ] 201 Door Lock Stuff

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Cathey
87 190Dt. Passengers side inside door lock button just stopped working normally. The system works as normal on "lock" from the drivers and passenger sides and all the locks except pass, lock. On unlock the right button is still down and resists being pulled up, as though there is still "down" vacu

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah, the junk yard. Although I won't be replacing them until I am gonna sell it. - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] correct name? BTW, have you found a supplier of re

Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Cathey
off w. ign. sw. off???; i thought that these radios were wired to only work when key is turned on??? anyone heard of this before; A nice thing about the semi-stock Becker I put into the 190D is that it'll come on, key off, just by pushing the ON button again. They're wired to run off of either

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Depends on mood, not to worry the 123 loves having it's doors shut firmly. - Original Message - From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] correct name? Do the females in your life slam car doo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Cathey
I have a 3700 watt generator, but don't quite know of a simple means to tie into my home circuitry to run all my essentials (well, h2o heater, A male-to-male 'pins-o-death' (as I call it) cable you make up yourself. I usually just pick up a dryer plug that mates with a handy one and flange on

Re: [MBZ] Power outage

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
You guys need this: http://www.zillerelectric.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=28

Re: [MBZ] MB eats Corolla

2006-12-21 Thread mykd1
Hey I just said it looks like a S Class.. didn't say it was Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB e

Re: [MBZ] Power outage

2006-12-21 Thread RELNGSON
<< Does anyone make a retro-kit to tie directly into a preexisting fuse box?  Of course, this includes turning off the main breaker, so the power doesn't feed back and torch those dudes who will eventually get to fixing my service when they're damned good and ready.>> I was just today discussin

Re: [MBZ] MB eats Corolla

2006-12-21 Thread RELNGSON
> <> > How many times do I have to tell you it's a C-Class W203? RLE

Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-21 Thread mykd1
Just from the angles I'm seeing here that looks like a S Class Benz which would probably weigh close to 2 1/2 tons. That Toyota didn't even have a chance Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMA

Re: [MBZ] B1 gear-up

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Of course there is, and it doesn't make any difference in incidents like this > one. Once the normal sequence of things in an approach to landing has been > interrupted by something, a minor distraction for example, then all the > warning horns and lights don't seem

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: > What I do (not NEC approved) is wire up a patch cord with a dryer plug > on one end, and a plug that fits the 240v socket on the generator on the > other end. Boy, did I forget something. First test the genny, to make sure it has two good 120v sides on the 240v circuit. A l

Re: [MBZ] B1 gear-up

2006-12-21 Thread RELNGSON
<> Of course there is, and it doesn't make any difference in incidents like this one. Once the normal sequence of things in an approach to landing has been interrupted by something, a minor distraction for example, then all the warning horns and lights don't seem to get through to the crew. I

Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread Luther
I want the exact temp, not some "around freezing". Above or below? Most BioD should be good to about 15F, any higher and it's not high quality. On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:40:36 -0600, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - that's what I get for scanning for a numerical format number -- > betwe

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Zeitgeist wrote: > I have a 3700 watt generator, but don't quite know of a simple means to tie > into my home circuitry to run all my essentials (well, h2o heater, > dishwasher, etc.). What I do (not NEC approved) is wire up a patch cord with a dryer plug on one end, and a plug that fits the 24

Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread OK Don
Well - that's what I get for scanning for a numerical format number -- between chemistry in college, and working stations around the globe and exchanging local weather conditions, I'm now conversant in either F or C! Seems that Luther missed the temperature reference as well - must be a ham thing

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread Luther
What was the cold temp? On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:51:57 -0600, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi! > > did a little experimenting recently and thought i'd share some of > the observations for the benefit of any/all. > > firstly, Helga is an '85 300D with almost 160K miles, and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes

2006-12-21 Thread Zeitgeist
Follow up: It's been nearly a week and we're still without power. The nice folks all around me have power, but for some reason I live on a cursed circuit, which is tied to the worst of the storm damage nearly a mile from here. I'm already thinking of ways to create alternatives for powering all

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread OK Don
My 220D had holes rusted through the tops of the front fenders - water poured up through them when we drove through puddles - the kids loved it back then! It didn't have much rust on the bottoms of the doors - but I did abandon it due to the rusted frame. It did it's first 100k miles as a daily dr

Re: [MBZ] WOW, I don't think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well it is from Northern MA. There and upstate NY use a lot of salt. Roads are white all winter-not from snow but salt. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader

Re: [MBZ] Correct tools for 124 half shaft?

2006-12-21 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Wow! the correct tool makes all the difference between frustration, failure and success! The 6 bolts that hold the half shaft to the differential on this '90 124 definitely are TriSquare recessed heads; trying to use a Torx will NOT work - only a 10mm TriSquare bit will grab the bolt head and pe

Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread ernest breakfield
hey Don! i've seen this show up on both these lists now and i'm sure i said "near freezing"; would you like that converted to Celsius, or Fahrenheit? ;-) cheers/73! e n6zes > And tell us at what temperature this experiment was conducted at -- > > On 12/20/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread LarryT
Hendrik wrote:> Howdy - My wife does that too - but usually, the belt twists and hangs looking funny. Fortunately the se

Re: [MBZ] Clamp on amp meter VOM

2006-12-21 Thread LarryT
I looked for something similar - the problem was finding one that could handle DC amps up to around 30 or so. Most could handle AC amps to several hundred but not DC - Sears had empty spots on the wall that appeared to have what I needed - perhaps that's what you found? I wanted one to test m

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread Chris Kueny
Do the females in your life slam car doors much harder than needed, as the ones in mine do? Never did understand that. Chris K Cayce, SC Talking about breaking things, within a week of me having the 230E the Missus had smashed both seat belt buckels. How you ask? Well she has a female way o

Re: [MBZ] [Biodiesel] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point

2006-12-21 Thread OK Don
And tell us at what temperature this experiment was conducted at -- On 12/20/06, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:51:57 -0800 From: ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Su

[MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty

2006-12-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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Re: [MBZ] correct name?

2006-12-21 Thread ts
Dwight they are map pockets. I do not have any/ Kaleb/Mac? Tom - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] correct name? What do you call the compartments on the fron

Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights

2006-12-21 Thread ts
Thanks E.! - Original Message - From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hella Head Lights hi Tom! i'd suggest starting with a good set of H4 'euro-code' lamps; truly good quality li

Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences

2006-12-21 Thread R A Bennell
Don't you think she meant "mental"? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Kueny Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL