Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
  basically,
 they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light word
 processing.


Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who aren't very
tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to them,
the internet IS just the world inside the browser.

And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing.

Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux machine
that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other half are
gamers, which is a whole different issue.)

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread archer
 On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
  basically,
 they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light word
 processing.
..
 Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who aren't 
 very
 tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
 clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to them,
 the internet IS just the world inside the browser.

 And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing.

 Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux machine
 that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other half 
 are
 gamers, which is a whole different issue.)

 Alex

If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd 
probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself and 
could be rid of WinXP.
I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn Small 
Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 6.0, and 
Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to support 
Linux but for some reason will not make the connection.
The modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be 
defective.
Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Some friends of mine have the whole family on the same system. 
You can take a dog across the fence if he's inside a car,
so they can just stick a dog in a car, take him to grandpa's
house, and turn him out to play with the other dogs. 

They do their own installs and repairs. The patriarch of the
clan has a wire pulling blade on his garden tractor to do
the burials, and a radio gizmo that locates the breaks
in the wire when they happen. 

I see these potential problems:
1) The dog can get the idea that if his collar isn't beeping, 
he's being a 'good boy'. One of this family's dogs went with
the to an out of state wedding. The friends they were staying
with had a real dog pen. Somehow the electric fence trained dog
got out of the pen 800 miles from home and got killed by a car.
I don't know if the electric fence training contributed to his
death, but it sure put a damper on the wedding joy when they
got back from the reception and found him. 

2) I know of one really smart dog who defeated the electric fence. 
He goes to the boundary and sits down when the collar starts beeping. 
When it stops beeping, he's free to do as he pleases, having killed
the battery in the collar.

3) A dog can run through an electric fence (yipe yipe), and then gets
shocked again if he comes home. I know of one thick headed Rottie
mix who did this a lot at first. Fortunately it was always a round
trip. (yip yip) Devon just left. (yip yip) Devon just came back. 
(yes, Devon is an idiot)

4) It doesn't work if there's a power failure.

I just remembered, my uncle's family also has electric fence at three
houses. I can give you the email address of one of my cousins if you want
to ask more questions. AFAIK, none of the dogs in my uncle's family have
trouble with the fence. They stop just before the beeping point and yap
like crazy when I visit there. Even if I get them excited, I can't get
them to go closer than 10' to the fence. If they make a mistake and get
close enough to beep, they act like it's the end of the world and run
halfway back to the house. I suspect the collars are set strong enough
to make the dogs scared to death of the shock. (either that, or Schnauzers
are wimps)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread dave walton
Those little portable units have their place, but you should not
expect too much from them. Typical scenario is that they are air
cooled and after a few hours will detect an over temperature condition
in the gen head or the engine and will do a safety shutdown. You can
get a used light tower generator off ebay for about twice the price of
the unit at Costco. Look for one with a water cooled Kubota diesel
engine. They will run for weeks non-stop without problems.

Here is what I'm talking about:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PORTABLE-LIGHT-TOWER-GENERATOR-6KW-DIESEL-TRAILER-UNIT_W0QQitemZ190189204531QQihZ009QQcategoryZ61574QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

-Dave Walton

On Jan 13, 2008 12:05 AM, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TIS this something new? Looks like a good deal but wonder where
 Cummins comes into the picture?

 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCtopnav=prodid=11245396cm_mmc=BCEmail_261-_-Focus-_-14-_-CumminsOnanHomesite6500

 John

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread LWB250
Why would one of these overheat unless there was an
overload or the cooling system was blocked in some
way?  There are many thousands of air cooled gensets
in emergency standby service, all of which, if
properly maintained, will run for hundreds of hours
without any attention.

The Cummins name comes from the fact that in the early
90s Cummins Engine bought out the Onan Corporation,
one of the big three genset manufacturers in the
U.S.  Therefore, everything became Cummins for the
most part, or Cummins-Onan in some cases.

Dan (who has 20+ years experience in the generator
industry)
 
--- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Those little portable units have their place, but
 you should not
 expect too much from them. Typical scenario is that
 they are air
 cooled and after a few hours will detect an over
 temperature condition
 in the gen head or the engine and will do a safety
 shutdown. You can
 get a used light tower generator off ebay for about
 twice the price of
 the unit at Costco. Look for one with a water cooled
 Kubota diesel
 engine. They will run for weeks non-stop without
 problems.
 
 Here is what I'm talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PORTABLE-LIGHT-TOWER-GENERATOR-6KW-DIESEL-TRAILER-UNIT_W0QQitemZ190189204531QQihZ009QQcategoryZ61574QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 -Dave Walton
 
 On Jan 13, 2008 12:05 AM, John Freer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  TIS this something new? Looks like a good deal but
 wonder where
  Cummins comes into the picture?
 
 

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCtopnav=prodid=11245396cm_mmc=BCEmail_261-_-Focus-_-14-_-CumminsOnanHomesite6500
 
  John
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 91

2008-01-13 Thread Dan Weeks

On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Isn't this the thread where 124's were too new?

 (Personally I love the look of the 124 wagon, and dislike
 the look of the sedan.  Go figure.  If the 300TD were available
 in 4wd we'd probably own two of them, as might the neighbors
 up the hill.)

 -- Jim

Yep--you remember correctly, but my wife has the same preference you  
do. When shown a pic of the wagon, she was all for it, and loves it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Russ Williams
Gerry,

Most Linux Distro's don't handle WIN-Modems well. Not saying that it 
can't be done.
If you will run Belarc http://belarc.com/free_download.html when you 
have your system booted in WinXP and find Brand and
Model of your modem and send the info to me I'll check with the Linux 
Experts that I have
contact with and see if they can come up with a driver that will work 
for you in PC-Linux.
I have Xandros and PC-Linux installed on my laptop and both identified 
the win-modem and
installed the correct driver.
If there isn't a driver that will work for your modem you'll have to 
switch out the modem
for a Non-Win-Modem type.  I may have a 3-Com around here that you can 
have, I'll have to
do some digging for it.

Russ W.
Tech Committee Chairman
Cajun Clickers Computer Club
http://www.clickers.org/
 
 If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd 
 probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself and 
 could be rid of WinXP.
 I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn Small 
 Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 6.0, and 
 Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to support 
 Linux but for some reason will not make the connection.
 The modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be 
 defective.
 Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy. 


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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D vacuum issue

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They bleed off vacuum unless 12 volts is applied, then they hold vacuum

Steve Bailey wrote:
 So is the normal position (no current to valve) full vacuum to the valves?
 Then as they are energized, the vacuum bleeds off to the line that comes
 from the cab? If so, then should I be able to test the membranes in the
 valves by applying vacuum and it should hold unless the valve is energized?
 No vacuum should leak from the atm points on the valves?  Also, the 2 valves
 are different. One has a larger bottom. Is this a spring return that the
 other one does not have/need?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D vacuum issue

2008-01-13 Thread Peter Frederick
There is a difference between bleeding off vacuum and being a wide  
open hole, the usual failure mode.  When they leak badly, you have no  
vac at all in the secondary systems.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread dave walton
Because they are pieces of crap to begin with. Those cheap sets are
designed to sell, not work.
I don't doubt that you can get a decent air-cooled genset - but it
will cost more than $800.

Personally, I stay away from anything air cooled: cars, skidsteers,
generators...
People only buy them because they are cheap. There is NO inherent
advantage in running an air cooled 4-cycle engine.

Well, okay - I did think of one thing - my lawnmower. In that case, I
can sacrifice longevity for light weight.

-Dave Walton

On Jan 13, 2008 8:30 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would one of these overheat unless there was an
 overload or the cooling system was blocked in some
 way?  There are many thousands of air cooled gensets
 in emergency standby service, all of which, if
 properly maintained, will run for hundreds of hours
 without any attention.

 The Cummins name comes from the fact that in the early
 90s Cummins Engine bought out the Onan Corporation,
 one of the big three genset manufacturers in the
 U.S.  Therefore, everything became Cummins for the
 most part, or Cummins-Onan in some cases.

 Dan (who has 20+ years experience in the generator
 industry)


 --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Those little portable units have their place, but
  you should not
  expect too much from them. Typical scenario is that
  they are air
  cooled and after a few hours will detect an over
  temperature condition
  in the gen head or the engine and will do a safety
  shutdown. You can
  get a used light tower generator off ebay for about
  twice the price of
  the unit at Costco. Look for one with a water cooled
  Kubota diesel
  engine. They will run for weeks non-stop without
  problems.
 
  Here is what I'm talking about:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/PORTABLE-LIGHT-TOWER-GENERATOR-6KW-DIESEL-TRAILER-UNIT_W0QQitemZ190189204531QQihZ009QQcategoryZ61574QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
  -Dave Walton
 
  On Jan 13, 2008 12:05 AM, John Freer
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   TIS this something new? Looks like a good deal but
  wonder where
   Cummins comes into the picture?
  
  
 
 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCtopnav=prodid=11245396cm_mmc=BCEmail_261-_-Focus-_-14-_-CumminsOnanHomesite6500
  
   John
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Is this thing gas or diesel?

John Freer wrote:
 TIS this something new? Looks like a good deal but wonder where
 Cummins comes into the picture?
 
 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCtopnav=prodid=11245396cm_mmc=BCEmail_261-_-Focus-_-14-_-CumminsOnanHomesite6500
 
 John
 
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
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  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Easy-Outs

2008-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond

I was the same way until last summer. I managed to salvage a NLA water pump 
cover for my wife's motorcycle. Aluminum cover with a steel bolt...

The trick seems to be to not be in a hurry. ;)
Get the hole in the stuck bolt as big as possible so you can use the largest 
size easy out possible. Then se into it. Sharp whacks on the brittle 
easy out will kill it.

Heat, penetrant, repeat.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:26:23 -0500
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You wrote I told him not to use them, I've never heard of anyone
 actually 
removing anything
with them).

Add me to the list  of people who have broken Easy-Outs of in the
 broken 
stud.  What a PITA they are --

The method that works the best for me is to drill into the stud with
 ever 
increasing sizes of drills until the broken stud falls apart or
 unscrews. 
But *never* an Easy-Out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Jim Cathey
 I suspect the collars are set strong enough
 to make the dogs scared to death of the shock.

If you ask me, that's how it should be set.

We also looked into the wireless radio system, which was
attractive.  No perimeter wire to bury as we're in a pretty
irregular terrain.  Unfortunately the signal wasn't
really strong enough, we have acreage and not a yard.

The problem dog was cured in an entirely different
way, so we never quite actually got the system.  RIP.

I would like a system that also had a training remote
with BEEP and ZAP buttons.  When one observed (through
the window) the dog starting to misbehave one could
play 'fist of god' and perhaps break the dog of the
behavior.  Chewing up packages left on the doorstop
comes to mind, it wouldn't be too hard to put out
some decoys to get some training opportunities.

Regarding the battery-draining dog, a properly designed
system should have some hysteresis in it.  The beeping
starts and perhaps escalates in frequency unless the
dog backs off.  Wait long enough (with the feedback)
and ZAP anyway.  Dog could still kill the battery,
but passively waiting it out wouldn't work.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Education

2008-01-13 Thread Jim Cathey
 I know the degree is no guarantee of a job

No.  Most often its presence is a checkbox.  They mightn't
look at you without it because there's no proof you have
any stick-toitiveness.  Get the checkbox and then they'll
actually perhaps consider you seriously.  But then any
other factors come into play.

Even more importantly, at least in the tech fields, is
what have you been doing lately.  Seems all they want
sometimes is somebody who's been filling _exactly_ the
same position for the past 10 years, and at a low
salary!  It's easier that way, rather than having to
determine if the guy is capable of learning the job
and being productive.  Guy knows a dozen programming
languages, and has done very well in them all, but
doesn't know C# (or whatever)?  Buh-bye.  Stupid.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread Jim Cathey
 Because they are pieces of crap to begin with.
 Those cheap sets are designed to sell, not work.

As appears to be that $1k Costco diesel set that I have a
defunct example of.  Some bad design on the electrical end
of things.  But I still have hopes I can resurrect it, and
by all accounts the air-cooled diesel engine is a fairly
decent design.  And it really is surprisingly quiet for
a 3600 RPM air-cooled diesel.  That enclosure is very
functional.

My $400 45kW Kohler is a _very_ nice generator, but did
have three rusted cylinders.  Something of a kit,
that was.  And something less than portable!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] how many of you are watching jacksonville play new england

2008-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond

Heh, this'll show how rabid a football fan I am, I forgot all about it...

Anyway do you prefer your crow warm or cold?



Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:12:53 -0500
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Subject: [MBZ] how many of you are watching jacksonville play new
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and are hoping for the big upset?

i sure am!

the pats got some serious help from the league down the stretch to stay
undefeated and i think it's time for some justice




   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley
dave walton wrote:
 
 Because they are pieces of crap to begin with. Those cheap sets are
 designed to sell, not work.
 I don't doubt that you can get a decent air-cooled genset - but it
 will cost more than $800.

Been using a $350 Coleman/BriggsStratton 11hp 5kw for 20+ years.
Would probably pay $600-700 today. 
Replaced the spark plug 2-3 times, broke the rope on the recoil start
once, had to take the starter apart again last year and clean/lube it
when it didn't want to retract properly and the rope jammed. Either I'm
getting older or it's getting harder to start, but once started it keeps
going, as long as you're willing to refuel it every 3 hours (small engine
mounted fuel tank). The carb has never been off it and the ignition has
never been messed with. It got used infrequently, but 16 hours a day when
it was needed. Back in the 1980s a power failure might last a week, now
it's almost never more than 10 hours. 
Now it's surplus. It's been replaced by an automated air cooled propane
engine 7kw Generac Guardian ($1500). 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond

If its Windows and its on the internet and it gets used at all it needs to be 
reformatted and reinstalled every couple years.
Pretty much the way it is, plan on it.

My XP video editing system needs it although on that one I'll admit part of it 
was me adding and removing apps... Thats a great way to slow Windows down.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:56:58 -0500
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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y'know, wonk, you've got me thinking that linux is a practical solution
 for
MANY computer users.  i know i have beaten this to death, but it seems
 that
the vast majority of pc users cannot manage windoze.  i know people who
 even
know a lot about windoze who end up having to reformat hard drives and
 start
over every few years.



   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
I haven't tried it, but you might be able to get WinModem working using
Crossover Office (http://www.codeweavers.com/). I run it on my PCLOS system
and have had good results on other Win stuff. There are also more and more
Linux drivers available for WinModem, too.


On Jan 13, 2008 9:36 AM, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gerry,

 Most Linux Distro's don't handle WIN-Modems well.




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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
We have a PetSafe wireless system which we bought at one of the big- 
box pet superstores.  I think Home Depot also carries them, of course  
they are available on-line as well.

It works really well.  Our property is larger than the range of the  
signal, but that's OK -- the dog still has plenty of room to run  
around.  It costs a bit more than the hard-wired version, but in my  
view once you buy the extra wire you need (what they include will  
likely not come close) and go through the trouble of burying it, the  
wireless is worth it.  It's also portable, so for example if you go  
camping you could set up a perimeter for the dog as long as you had  
120 AC at the campsite (or a generator or inverter or something).

The collar batteries are a racket -- they are a button-type battery,  
but moulded into a plastic carrier so you can't buy a generic battery  
replacement you have to buy their branded batteries which are about  
$12 for two.  They last a few months each, depending on how often the  
dog tests the perimeter.

Allan

On Jan 13, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

 Okay, not that I don't have any Mercedes questions, but I'm going  
 to jump
 into the OT mix here, as we need advice from any and all who have  
 experience
 with invisible fences for dogs.
 Since moving into this house several months ago my wife and I have  
 been
 trying to decide which route to go with our need for a containment  
 fence for
 our two dogs. We cannot afford an actual conventional fence and as  
 such are
 going this route.

 We have 1.3 acres but will probably only fence in maybe .75 acres  
 or so.

 Anybody had success with the most popular company Invisible  
 Fence? How
 about any other companies? Around here, we have found Invincible  
 Fence
 (the owner of which touts his fence's capability to contain any  
 dog), and
 Pet Stop (about which I don't know anything).

 Finally, has anyone bought and installed one themselves? I can  
 order one
 from the Drs. Foster and Smith catalog. I am very tempted to  
 install my own,
 as the cost would be something around $500. We got quoted about  
 $2000 from
 Invisible Fence today. And we got quoted about $1200 by Invincible.

 Also, what are thoughts on burying the wire in wet ground? Some of  
 our yard
 is wet much of the year.

 I have trained dogs to an invisible fence before, but have not owned a
 system.

 I guess my chief question is about the advisability of trying to  
 purchase
 and install one myself. I know I can follow the instructions, but I  
 have
 heard (from only one source) that often one gets these systems in  
 the ground
 and they just won't function.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread Dave H...
I want to thank you for your generous offer.

If I may be so bold, may I ask how you stored all the DVDs?


Dave H...

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 Is this thing gas or diesel?

 John Freer wrote:
 TIS this something new? Looks like a good deal but wonder where
 Cummins comes into the picture?

 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCtopnav=prodid=11245396cm_mmc=BCEmail_261-_-Focus-_-14-_-CumminsOnanHomesite6500

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Re: [MBZ] how many of you are watching jacksonville play new england

2008-01-13 Thread Gary Hurst
there is really no crow.  it's going to take quite an effort to beat the
patriots.  the template is there though, but no one has been able to do the
job.

phil simms was right though . jacksonville did not bring pressure and that
may have been their undoing

On Jan 13, 2008 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Heh, this'll show how rabid a football fan I am, I forgot all about it...

 Anyway do you prefer your crow warm or cold?



 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:12:53 -0500
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 Subject: [MBZ] how many of you are watching jacksonville play new
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 and are hoping for the big upset?

 i sure am!

 the pats got some serious help from the league down the stretch to stay
 undefeated and i think it's time for some justice





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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Gary Hurst
dude, do you start your car with a hand crank as well?  i haven't heard
about winmodems in a decade.

On Jan 13, 2008 4:30 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
   basically,
  they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light
 word
  processing.
 ..
  Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who aren't
  very
  tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
  clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to
 them,
  the internet IS just the world inside the browser.
 
  And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing.
 
  Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux
 machine
  that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other half
  are
  gamers, which is a whole different issue.)
 
  Alex
 
 If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd
 probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself and
 could be rid of WinXP.
 I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn Small
 Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 6.0, and
 Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to support
 Linux but for some reason will not make the connection.
 The modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be
 defective.
 Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy.


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[MBZ] Now: Removing Center Vent frame 85 300D (126) Was: Vacuum elements in a 85 300SD (126 chassis) -anyoneelsebeen here ???

2008-01-13 Thread George Larribeau
Using WKI(PDF) 83-150
Have every thing removed referred to, except some thing called 'cover' with
no reference WKI-PDF number.
I now believe that this is the wood trim on the dash above the vent. I
believe this to be true now because the vent frame will slide a bit toward
the glove box and this disengages a metal tab into the small square metal
frame that the ignition lock covered by. Looking up under the dash I can see
a small lip on the bottom of the vent frame that would clear the opening if
it could be slid upward and maybe rotated out. The wood strip is preventing
this..

How is the wood trim removed with out trashing it ??

Years ago I had a 1970 280SE and some neighborhood hoodlums removed the
radio from it the hard way. I remember replacing the wood trim on it but
cannot remember how hard it was. I do remember replacing the 4 sidewise
heater control rubber 'knobs' and I had bloody fingers for some time.





George Larribeau
Dallas, Texas



George Larribeau
Dallas, Texas
 You need to remove the center dash vent and pull the duct off behind
 it.  If it's like the W124, the wheel that operates the damper inside
 is held in place with an allen head screw, accessable from the
 passenger compartment through the louvers.  The vent itself is
 probably held in with spring clips or by a screw on the side visible
 when you open the glove box.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
Quite a few households still don't have broadband access  a dial up
modem is their only connection to the net.

The issue is that the technology is expensive to install  in less
populated areas, there is not enough return on the investment. DSL has
the highest install cost but even cable broadband costs $$$.

Tom
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From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

dude, do you start your car with a hand crank as well?  i haven't heard
about winmodems in a decade.

On Jan 13, 2008 4:30 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
   basically,
  they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light
 word
  processing.
 ..
  Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who
aren't
  very
  tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
  clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to
 them,
  the internet IS just the world inside the browser.
 
  And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word
processing.
 
  Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux
 machine
  that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other
half
  are
  gamers, which is a whole different issue.)
 
  Alex
 
 If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd
 probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself
and
 could be rid of WinXP.
 I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn
Small
 Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 6.0,
and
 Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to
support
 Linux but for some reason will not make the connection.
 The modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be
 defective.
 Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

 Quite a few households still don't have broadband access  a dial  
 up modem is their only connection to the net.

Unfortunately for those folks, many web site designers seem to assume  
that broadband is universal, and fill their sites with gratuitous  
images, multimedia, multi-megabyte Flash or script files, etc. and no  
option for a dial-up friendly interface.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Harry Watkins
We had a hard wire system and the way I put it in the ground is all I can
offer, the dog won.
I rented a lawn edger to dig a narrow ditch, poked it in with a stick
and ran the riding mower over it.  Two days later you could not see any
signs.  I covered 1/3 acre.

Harry

On Jan 13, 2008 11:03 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have a PetSafe wireless system which we bought at one of the big-
 box pet superstores.  I think Home Depot also carries them, of course
 they are available on-line as well.

 It works really well.  Our property is larger than the range of the
 signal, but that's OK -- the dog still has plenty of room to run
 around.  It costs a bit more than the hard-wired version, but in my
 view once you buy the extra wire you need (what they include will
 likely not come close) and go through the trouble of burying it, the
 wireless is worth it.  It's also portable, so for example if you go
 camping you could set up a perimeter for the dog as long as you had
 120 AC at the campsite (or a generator or inverter or something).

 The collar batteries are a racket -- they are a button-type battery,
 but moulded into a plastic carrier so you can't buy a generic battery
 replacement you have to buy their branded batteries which are about
 $12 for two.  They last a few months each, depending on how often the
 dog tests the perimeter.

 Allan

 On Jan 13, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

  Okay, not that I don't have any Mercedes questions, but I'm going
  to jump
  into the OT mix here, as we need advice from any and all who have
  experience
  with invisible fences for dogs.
  Since moving into this house several months ago my wife and I have
  been
  trying to decide which route to go with our need for a containment
  fence for
  our two dogs. We cannot afford an actual conventional fence and as
  such are
  going this route.
 
  We have 1.3 acres but will probably only fence in maybe .75 acres
  or so.
 
  Anybody had success with the most popular company Invisible
  Fence? How
  about any other companies? Around here, we have found Invincible
  Fence
  (the owner of which touts his fence's capability to contain any
  dog), and
  Pet Stop (about which I don't know anything).
 
  Finally, has anyone bought and installed one themselves? I can
  order one
  from the Drs. Foster and Smith catalog. I am very tempted to
  install my own,
  as the cost would be something around $500. We got quoted about
  $2000 from
  Invisible Fence today. And we got quoted about $1200 by Invincible.
 
  Also, what are thoughts on burying the wire in wet ground? Some of
  our yard
  is wet much of the year.
 
  I have trained dogs to an invisible fence before, but have not owned a
  system.
 
  I guess my chief question is about the advisability of trying to
  purchase
  and install one myself. I know I can follow the instructions, but I
  have
  heard (from only one source) that often one gets these systems in
  the ground
  and they just won't function.
 
  Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley


Harry Watkins wrote:
 
 We had a hard wire system and the way I put it in the ground is all I can
 offer, the dog won.

The dog won? Does that mean the dog defeated the fence?

Poking wire into a trench by hand might be better for the wire
than dragging it through dirt, rocks, etc with a proper
wire pulling plow. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Education

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
To stay out of further debt, refrain from attending the Art institute  
of Seattle.  Had the brain dead BiL attend.  He wasted some $30k in  
tuition over two years after moving his family from hotlanta.  Got  
his wife with child, could find no job in town, so moved to the  
boonies of NC for a job paying $20K designing banners.  Two years  
later drops out of the job market and decides to homeschool his wee  
bairns.  Those kids will no doubt qualify for housing with LT Wonko  
once he is through with them.

clay




On 12 Jan 2008, at 23:54, Zoltan Finks wrote:

 I found the academic standards at the four-year college from which I
 recently graduated to be pretty good (Yes, this is highly subjective).

 The way in which I feel I got less - much less - than I expected  
 has to do
 with employment after securing the degree.

 I know the degree is no guarantee of a job (I learned this the hard  
 way back
 in '90 when I stupidly took out loans for an associate degree at an
 institution that ran deceptive TV commercials), but as I have  
 worked in the
 various jobs I have had through the years I always thought folks  
 with a
 Bachelor's degree had it made. They were pretty much able to get at  
 least a
 decent job no matter what, owing to their having that degree.

 Much of this, I know, is a problem of my job searching skills, but  
 still, I
 have gotten zero credit for having gone even deeper into debt in  
 hopes of
 getting out of the world of dead end, depressing jobs.

 Some of the problem has to do with our having moved to a very  
 competitive
 job market (Seattle) in the field of graphic design.

 Brian

 Glenn included:Someone recently observed that American education is  
 the only
 product where
 the consumer (the student) is satisfied to get less than expected.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread archer

From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gerry,
 Most Linux Distro's don't handle WIN-Modems well. Not saying that it can't 
 be done. If you will run Belarc http://belarc.com/free_download.html when 
 you  have your system booted in WinXP and find Brand and Model of your 
 modem and send the info to me I'll check with the Linux Experts that I 
 have contact with and see if they can come up with a driver that will work 
 for you in PC-Linux.
I have Xandros and PC-Linux installed on my laptop and both identified the 
win-modem and installed the correct driver.
 If there isn't a driver that will work for your modem you'll have to
 switch out the modem for a Non-Win-Modem type.  I may have a 3-Com around 
 here that you can have, I'll have to do some digging for it.
 Russ W.
 Tech Committee Chairman
 Cajun Clickers Computer Club
 http://www.clickers.org/
 
Gerry wrote:
Currently I don't have anything but a distro loaded on the computer I'm 
trying to set up with Linux, so I can't use Belarc.  Heres the data from the 
paperwork that came with it:

Stratitec IC56a  56K PCI internal modem  Model #IC56a
System Requirements:  Pentium II, Celeron, Athlon, Duron 233 mhz minimum. 
Windows 98 or later, Linux 2.4 kernel or later.
Manual V1.81 0811505
..
The distro that's currently on the computer is Ubuntu 7.04.
..
The Linux installation instruction for this modem say go to:
www.stratitec.com/ic56a but that's not a working website.

The instructions also say to search the 'net for information on using a 
Lucent/Agere based modem.

Thanks,
Gerry
-
 If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd 
 probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself and 
 could be rid of WinXP.
 I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn 
 Small  Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 
 6.0, and  Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to 
 support  Linux but for some reason will not make the connection. The 
 modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be defective.
 Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Harry Watkins
The dog won because she loved my wife enough to suffer the pain and go to
her.  We had never broken her from jumping on folks so we fenced away from
the front door and driveway.  Problem was, there stands the dog when wife
drives up.  Our mistake, should have kept her in the back.  We spent too
much time trying to retrain her, but she knew the ropes.  Don't tell the
wife this because she forbid me to up the shock power.  I got the bigger
battery they offered and tightened up the collar, but, the dog won. $500
down the drain.  Oh well.

Harry

On Jan 13, 2008 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Harry Watkins wrote:
 
  We had a hard wire system and the way I put it in the ground is all I
 can
  offer, the dog won.

 The dog won? Does that mean the dog defeated the fence?

 Poking wire into a trench by hand might be better for the wire
 than dragging it through dirt, rocks, etc with a proper
 wire pulling plow.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley


Harry Watkins wrote:
 
 The dog won because she loved my wife enough to suffer the pain and go to
 her. 

I think JimC is right, the dog has to think it will die if it crosses the
line. Then the fence works great. It probably helps if you start them on
it as soon as they are large enough to carry the shock collar. 

I've watched cattle and horses (especially bulls) test electric fences,
a couple of our bulls would even put their wet noses on the top wire with
a high amperage weed burner fence charger. If the fence shorts out, they
will knock it down within a day. I can't remember if they still did that
after we got rid of the firestarter fencer and put in a high voltage /
short duration unit. I do remember it's a pain when the neighbors call
you at 6am because you've got 20 head of Angus mowing their front yard
for them. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:

2008-01-13 Thread LarryT
Hi Dave,
HaHa!!   I'm about as conservative as anyone gets.  LOL  Had a 59 
Beetle (our 1st car) and a 71 Beetle - would like a 67 though.  Course, when 
I had a Beete I kept trying to make it as much like a 911 as possible.  Not 
enough hair for a pony tail I'm afraid.  Lifetime NRA member to boot.   And 
my feet are way too screwed up for sandels.

I did note you failed to name a smoothly running Govt project -
;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:


I thought all the anti-establishment types like you had already left for 
Canada?
 Let me guess - pony tail, Birkenstock's and a pre-1970 VW beetle?

 -Dave Walton

 On Jan 12, 2008 3:56 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you asked :Some governments can do it right. Not ours?

 Based on past performance - I don't think so.  What govt organization is 
 run
 smoothly, without massive fraud, corruption or public dissatisfaction?

 Social Security?
 VA Hospital Sytem?
 Income Tax System?
 Voting?
 The Census?
 Public Eduation?
 Postal System?  (they used to be a govt business - not sure what the
 relationship is now).
 Etc --

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 - Original Message -
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:


  Awhile back a friend of mine was in Germany when his appendix started
  acting up. They got him in to a hospital before it burst, but required
  that he prove he was able to pay the bill in cash before they would
  admit him. He had no health coverage that extended overseas. They told
  him that they would remove it on an outpatient basis and let him spend
  the night if necessary even if he could not pay, but would not give
  him the 2-day recuperation in the hospital unless he forked up the
  cash.
  He agreed. The total for the operation, anesthesia, room and board
  came to $150. That was before the Euro conversion, so it's probably
  about $300 in today's dollars.
  He said the hospital over there was as nice as anything he had seen in
  the States.
 
  Some governments can do it right. Not ours?
 
  -Dave Walton
 
  On Jan 12, 2008 2:51 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Dave,
  That's good.  But I really like the waay Loren explained why 
  competition
  in
  health care works and government controls only leads to high  higher
  prices.
 
  Before Health insurance - as recently as the 60s health insurance was 
  an
  employment Perk - people went to the doctot, paid the bill and went 
  home.
 
  While I have been lucky in having insurance pay my health bills, I am
  always
  astonished when I see how the system works.  Off the top of my head, 
  when
  I
  had my appendictomy last Oct, the bill was $14K with the insurance co
  negotiating away more than $13k of that - then the ins paid a thousand
  IIRC
  and I paid $35.
 
  A HSA will help most people - especially those who work.  For those 
  who
  dont
  work the Dems will find a way to give them healthcare - like the tax 
  cuts
  they get when they don't pay any taxes.
 
  Have a nice weekend all -
 
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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  - Original Message -
  From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
 
 
   Your experience is atypical - and that's a good thing.
  
   -Dave Walton
  
   On Jan 11, 2008 9:26 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Dave,
   I am disabled - have been for over 10 years with a disease not
   many
   people have ever heard of (Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating
   Polyneuropathy - the mylin covering the nerves is being attacked by
   antibodies in my blood) - in case you wanted to know.  I've had all
   kinds
   of
   procedures, operations, ad every other kind of medical thingie
   performed
   on
   me during that time and not once did the several insurance 
   companies I
   had
   deny or even slow down payment for something a doctor ordered. 
   Even
   when
   changing carriers they always picked me up even with a pre-existing
   

Re: [MBZ] Education

2008-01-13 Thread LarryT
You wrote:Some of the problem has to do with our having moved to a very 
competitive
job market (Seattle) in the field of graphic design

More like 99% of the problem.  With some many people competing for so few 
jobs only PHd's are finding jobs.  (Sightly joking).

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- Original Message - 
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Education


I found the academic standards at the four-year college from which I
 recently graduated to be pretty good (Yes, this is highly subjective).

 The way in which I feel I got less - much less - than I expected has to do
 with employment after securing the degree.

 I know the degree is no guarantee of a job (I learned this the hard way 
 back
 in '90 when I stupidly took out loans for an associate degree at an
 institution that ran deceptive TV commercials), but as I have worked in 
 the
 various jobs I have had through the years I always thought folks with a
 Bachelor's degree had it made. They were pretty much able to get at least 
 a
 decent job no matter what, owing to their having that degree.

 Much of this, I know, is a problem of my job searching skills, but still, 
 I
 have gotten zero credit for having gone even deeper into debt in hopes of
 getting out of the world of dead end, depressing jobs.

 Some of the problem has to do with our having moved to a very competitive
 job market (Seattle) in the field of graphic design.

 Brian

 Glenn included:Someone recently observed that American education is the 
 only
 product where
 the consumer (the student) is satisfied to get less than expected.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Insight just ran a cable past our house a couple weeks ago.  I'm also  
much to far away from the substation for DSL (10 miles anyway, either  
way).  My only other choice was satelite.

Peter


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[MBZ] Dirt Cheap 1957 Ponton -- $1k

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/535850923.html

No affiliation, minor lust

clay

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt Cheap 1957 Ponton -- $1k

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
And another one for $2500.  Much better condition

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/535266341.html


On 13 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Redghost wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/535850923.html

 No affiliation, minor lust

 clay

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[MBZ] Booher Mobile

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
$900 and bring a trailer

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/533881092.html






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Re: [MBZ] Dirt Cheap 1957 Ponton -- $1k

2008-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah that first one would be a boatload of work to sort out.

Allan

On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Redghost wrote:

 And another one for $2500.  Much better condition

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/535266341.html


 On 13 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Redghost wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/535850923.html

 No affiliation, minor lust

 clay

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt Cheap 1957 Ponton -- $1k

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
Somebody will snag it and put a few grand in.  Then show up at some  
concours and take home the prize.

clay

On 13 Jan 2008, at 15:15, Allan Streib wrote:

 Yeah that first one would be a boatload of work to sort out.

 Allan

 On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Redghost wrote:

 And another one for $2500.  Much better condition

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/535266341.html


 On 13 Jan 2008, at 15:08, Redghost wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/535850923.html

 No affiliation, minor lust



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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:51 -0500, Allan wrote:

 On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
 
  Quite a few households still don't have broadband access  a
  dial up modem is their only connection to the net.
 
 Unfortunately for those folks, many web site designers seem to
 assume that broadband is universal, and fill their sites with
 gratuitous images, multimedia, multi-megabyte Flash or script
 files, etc. and no option for a dial-up friendly interface.
 
 Allan

Privoxy to the rescue!!
http://www.privoxy.org/

Well, it can help anyway.

Privoxy is a filtering proxy server. Out of the box it will
block most of the banner ads and web-bugs. But it can also be
set to block java, flash, javascript, etc.

Available for Windows, Linux, BSD, Solaris, Mac OSX, Amiga, OS2,
etc.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Luther
Buy a good USR external OR internal PCI.  They are supported.

Luther

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:30:51 -0600, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
  basically,
 they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light word
 processing.
 ..
 Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who aren't
 very
 tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
 clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to them,
 the internet IS just the world inside the browser.

 And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing.

 Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux machine
 that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other half
 are
 gamers, which is a whole different issue.)

 Alex
 
 If someone walked me through getting a Lunux distro on the 'net, I'd
 probably be able to master an email client, browser, etc. by myself and
 could be rid of WinXP.
 I've tried getting  Ubuntu 7.04, PC Linus OS, Puppy Linux 2.12, Damn Small
 Linux 3.0 rc2, Mepis 6.5, Mepis 6.0, Knoppix 5.0, Linux Mandrake 6.0, and
 Red Hat Linux.on the 'net.  The serial modem is supposed to support
 Linux but for some reason will not make the connection.
 The modem works well with WinXP, so I don't think its likely to be
 defective.
 Gerry.Plug and play kind of guy.



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Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion

2008-01-13 Thread Luther
At the MBCA tech gathering yesterday, it was suggested that there probably is a 
bad trace or ground on the cluster circuit board.  There was a broken ground 
that we resoldered last time the cluster was out, the fuse hasn't blown since 
then, but it has been flaky.  I'm gonna pull the cluster back out and carefully 
look at it.

Luther

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:58:39 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The fuse is currently not blown but does have some evidence of being
 hot on one end.  See the pictures (+1MB each) of each end of the fuse.

 Those are shot.  You seriously need to burnish the contacts
 INSIDE the fuse box, they're inducing heating.  If it was heat
 due to normal current the fuse itself would blow, this is heat
 in the contacts.

 Disconnect battery.  Use Dremel with wire brush.

 -- Jim





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[MBZ] y'all need to chip in and buy me this for my new family

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT Invisible Fences for Dogs

2008-01-13 Thread Jim Cathey
 I've watched cattle and horses (especially bulls) test electric fences,

We had one of those, and I've told that story here before.
The short version is that I won, after I replaced the normal
fencer output coil with an oil burner ignition transformer.
If the steer would have stayed on it, it _would_ have died.
Fire and death were serious concerns with that fencer.  We
never had to drag 'Old Sparky' out again, which is fortunate.

I cured our dogs of mobbing you when you opened the car
door.  I just kept slamming their heads in the door until
they thought better of it.  I really _tried_, too, and
would try to sucker them in and then WHAM!  (But never
by calling them in or encouraging them, that's cruel.
Just ignored them, but was always ready on the door
handle in case they got too eager.)  It didn't take too
long, then they'd wait outside the door range, so you
could at least stand up without getting dog in the face.

At that point a knee could be ready if they jumped up.
If they always go over on their ass with a knee in the
brisket when they jump up, they stop jumping up soon.

Sit!  sits  Good dog.  pat pat pat  That's where
we are now.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] y'all need to chip in and buy me this for my new family

2008-01-13 Thread Jim Cathey
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-MERCEDES-309-DIESEL-NO- 
 RESERVE_W0QQitemZ160198491283QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6728QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ 
 rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I love the trailer hitch.  All those pictures and not one of
the engine?  That bus'd be a nice candidate for a 617A, but
I suppose it wouldn't fit.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] Wagon overload, you asked for it..

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I found them and here they are

http://www.okiebenz.com/funny/wagonoverload/


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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] stick wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] y'all need to chip in and buy me this for my new family

2008-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
LOL this is the exact type vehicle our city used to kick off their  
city bus service in the '70s.  There was some definite payola  
happening somewhere between the Mercedes dealer and his pal on the  
city council.  Can you imagine ANY municipality not buying American  
for a bus service?

Watch for rust on the floor around the wheel wells I remember riding  
in them just before they went out of service and being able to see  
the road going by through the holes in the floor.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley


Luther wrote:
 
 Buy a good USR external OR internal PCI.  They are supported.

I can't get a x2 connection to save my life, so the best modem
for me has been a USR Courier external 28.8k. It's the only
one I've used that can consistently connect at and maintain
26.4k. 

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Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


 The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than
  the M104) ...

Is this true? How reliable is that?

What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, I dont see how it would be more reliable.  If anything, the other 
way around.

Craig McCluskey wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
  The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than
   the M104) ...
 
 Is this true? How reliable is that?
 
 What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread M.A. K
very  reliable  and easy to work on.

mak
300SE

 The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than
  the M104) ...
 
 Is this true? How reliable is that?
 
 What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Luther
Plentiful and cheap on eBay.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:48:45 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Luther wrote:

 Buy a good USR external OR internal PCI.  They are supported.

 I can't get a x2 connection to save my life, so the best modem
 for me has been a USR Courier external 28.8k. It's the only
 one I've used that can consistently connect at and maintain
 26.4k.

 Mitch.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Hendrik Riessen
This gets me thinking, why don't they build a Linux distro based on a web 
browser interface. The problem I see is that a lot of people are scared of 
Linux because it has a reputation/perception as being more difficult to use 
than windoze.
To be honest it is due to the need to manually install stuff, whereas 
windoze is designed for ease of use.
Having a web browser interface will overcome a lot of these apprehensions 
because most computer users are familiar with a web browser and how to 
navigate around it.
If linux is to grow they need to come up with a standard that programmers 
can work with to build easy to use software that is self installing.
Obviously within the linux community there are divisions along the lines of 
those wanting to build easy to use stuff with an industry standard and those 
who are linux purists and have a secret agenda to keep non geeks out of 
linux, fearing if linux becomes too popular it will push them out and make 
their work redudant. This is understandable from the point of view that one 
dominat flavour of linux will squash the other flavours into oblivion. 
Nobody wants to work on a dead end project.
I guess that is the first problem that has to be solved, the battle between 
one dominant linux and having lots of little penguins going off into 
different areas to see where they end up.
Anyway I have to reinstall ubuntu due to clumsy button pushing.

Hendrik

- Original Message - 
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software


 On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users.
  basically,
 they are using a web browser and an email client.  maybe some light word
 processing.


 Not even that much, by my observation.  A lot (most?) people who aren't 
 very
 tech-savvy just use webmail.  They often aren't even aware that mail
 clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to them,
 the internet IS just the world inside the browser.

 And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing.

 Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux machine
 that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on.  (The other half 
 are
 gamers, which is a whole different issue.)

 Alex
 

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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Luther
Buy it.

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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-MERCEDES-DIESEL-WAGON-300-300TD-RUNS-GOOD_W0QQitemZ230212761112QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Re: [MBZ] Which six?

2008-01-13 Thread RELNGSON
 The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than the 
 M104) ...
 
Absolute nonsense. The M104 is better in many ways.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
Ugh.  Sounds like it has a lot of deferred maintenance and a lot of  
half-a**ed repairs.  Plexiglas for the rear window?


On Jan 13, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Luther wrote:

 Buy it.

 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:12:54 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-MERCEDES- 
 DIESEL-WAGON-300-300TD-RUNS- 
 GOOD_W0QQitemZ230212761112QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr 
 dZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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 '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
 '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
 '82 300CD (166 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] Which six?

2008-01-13 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 1/13/2008 6:24:56 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The 3.0  Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than the 
  M104) ...
 
Absolute nonsense. The M104 is better in many  ways.

RLE



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Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:

2008-01-13 Thread dave walton
How about the military? Aside from stories about $300 hammers and
toilet seats (which I suspect were exaggerated or at least not
widespread) it looks to do what it does rather well. The people I know
that have been involved in it as a profession take pride in their work
and are constantly looking to stamp out waste, fraud and abuse.

-Dave Walton

On Jan 13, 2008 5:31 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 HaHa!!   I'm about as conservative as anyone gets.  LOL  Had a 59
 Beetle (our 1st car) and a 71 Beetle - would like a 67 though.  Course, when
 I had a Beete I kept trying to make it as much like a 911 as possible.  Not
 enough hair for a pony tail I'm afraid.  Lifetime NRA member to boot.   And
 my feet are way too screwed up for sandels.

 I did note you failed to name a smoothly running Govt project -
 ;-)

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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 - Original Message -
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:


 I thought all the anti-establishment types like you had already left for
 Canada?
  Let me guess - pony tail, Birkenstock's and a pre-1970 VW beetle?
 
  -Dave Walton
 
  On Jan 12, 2008 3:56 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  you asked :Some governments can do it right. Not ours?
 
  Based on past performance - I don't think so.  What govt organization is
  run
  smoothly, without massive fraud, corruption or public dissatisfaction?
 
  Social Security?
  VA Hospital Sytem?
  Income Tax System?
  Voting?
  The Census?
  Public Eduation?
  Postal System?  (they used to be a govt business - not sure what the
  relationship is now).
  Etc --
 
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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  .
 
  - Original Message -
  From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:
 
 
   Awhile back a friend of mine was in Germany when his appendix started
   acting up. They got him in to a hospital before it burst, but required
   that he prove he was able to pay the bill in cash before they would
   admit him. He had no health coverage that extended overseas. They told
   him that they would remove it on an outpatient basis and let him spend
   the night if necessary even if he could not pay, but would not give
   him the 2-day recuperation in the hospital unless he forked up the
   cash.
   He agreed. The total for the operation, anesthesia, room and board
   came to $150. That was before the Euro conversion, so it's probably
   about $300 in today's dollars.
   He said the hospital over there was as nice as anything he had seen in
   the States.
  
   Some governments can do it right. Not ours?
  
   -Dave Walton
  
   On Jan 12, 2008 2:51 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Dave,
   That's good.  But I really like the waay Loren explained why
   competition
   in
   health care works and government controls only leads to high  higher
   prices.
  
   Before Health insurance - as recently as the 60s health insurance was
   an
   employment Perk - people went to the doctot, paid the bill and went
   home.
  
   While I have been lucky in having insurance pay my health bills, I am
   always
   astonished when I see how the system works.  Off the top of my head,
   when
   I
   had my appendictomy last Oct, the bill was $14K with the insurance co
   negotiating away more than $13k of that - then the ins paid a thousand
   IIRC
   and I paid $35.
  
   A HSA will help most people - especially those who work.  For those
   who
   dont
   work the Dems will find a way to give them healthcare - like the tax
   cuts
   they get when they don't pay any taxes.
  
   Have a nice weekend all -
  
   Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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   Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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   - Original Message -
   From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:28 AM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
  
  
Your experience is atypical - and that's a good thing.
   
-Dave Walton
   
On Jan 11, 2008 9:26 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dave,
I am disabled - have been for over 10 years with a disease not
many
people have ever heard of 

Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread E M
All engines have their strengths and weaknesses.  Car takes premium, haven't
worked out the mileage yet.

Ed
300E
367,000 kms

On 13/01/2008, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


  The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than
   the M104) ...

 Is this true? How reliable is that?

 What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
too far away.

Luther wrote:
 Buy it.
 
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:12:54 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-MERCEDES-DIESEL-WAGON-300-300TD-RUNS-GOOD_W0QQitemZ230212761112QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
 

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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Russ Williams
Gerry,
Try the following and see if that works.
Let me know if it does or doesn't.

1.Install current full tar.gz of martian
http://www.barrelsoutofbond.org/downloads/martian/
2.Unpack martian somewhere you can work on it
/home/user/martian or similar
3.As root go into the subdir where martian is located
and run the following:
make all
make install
then go into the subdir called scripts and run
./automate.sh
./remove_outdated.sh
4.Now you can delete martian it's installed
5.Edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
DISABLED_MODULES=”” to say
DISABLED_MODULES=”ltm” this kills the nonworking ltmodem
6.Edit /etc/init.d/martian
DEVICE=”/dev/ttySM0” to say
DEVICE=”/dev/modem”
7.Now as root enter
update-rc.d martian defaults

Russ W.
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Cajun Clickers Computer Club
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Gerry wrote:
 Currently I don't have anything but a distro loaded on the computer I'm 
 trying to set up with Linux, so I can't use Belarc.  Heres the data from the 
 paperwork that came with it:
 
 Stratitec IC56a  56K PCI internal modem  Model #IC56a
 System Requirements:  Pentium II, Celeron, Athlon, Duron 233 mhz minimum. 
 Windows 98 or later, Linux 2.4 kernel or later.
 Manual V1.81 0811505
 ..
 The distro that's currently on the computer is Ubuntu 7.04.
 ..
 The Linux installation instruction for this modem say go to:
 www.stratitec.com/ic56a but that's not a working website.

 The instructions also say to search the 'net for information on using a 
 Lucent/Agere based modem.

 Thanks,
 Gerry
   


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
I like the V.everything that was upgraded to 56k.  It consistently  
turned in a solid 48.000, and at times all the way 52.000.  Then I  
got cable modems and that was that.

clay

On 13 Jan 2008, at 16:48, Mitch Haley wrote:



 Luther wrote:

 Buy a good USR external OR internal PCI.  They are supported.

 I can't get a x2 connection to save my life, so the best modem
 for me has been a USR Courier external 28.8k. It's the only
 one I've used that can consistently connect at and maintain
 26.4k.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] stick wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Loren Faeth
Looks like a twin cam 280 engine to me, but i didn't think the spark 
plug wires were in the middle on the 280, are they?  Looks like a 
Euro version wagon to me.

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   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley


Redghost wrote:
 
 I like the V.everything that was upgraded to 56k.  It consistently
 turned in a solid 48.000, and at times all the way 52.000.  Then I
 got cable modems and that was that.

You must not have 6 miles of wire between you and town. I've tried
an identical Courier, the same 25mhz cpu and version number, but with 
the final v.everything software upgrade. It gets 16.8 or 19.2k. I
thought that windoze was reporting 1/2 speed, but nope, it brings in
a little over 2k/sec when I get 2.8k to 3.1k per second throughput on
the modem with its original 28.8k software. 
Actually, my situation might be worse than just the distance from town.
My isp's modem bank is in another town 10 miles (and a different area 
code) from the town that my phone service comes from. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Fmiser
 Luther wrote:
  
  Buy a good USR external OR internal PCI.  They are supported.
 
 I can't get a x2 connection to save my life, so the best modem
 for me has been a USR Courier external 28.8k. It's the only
 one I've used that can consistently connect at and maintain
 26.4k. 
 
 Mitch.

26.4 - that's the maximum speed possible through an analog
telephone central office.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Loren Faeth
   Cable is much better than DSL, if you can get it.

At our farm, I am thrilled that verizon has lit up their wireless 
towe with HS data.  There will not be cable or DSL there for at least 
another 50 years.  SO now I know we can get wireless there

Next Question:  how can i plug a usb wireless dongle into a wireless 
access point to be able to use more than 1 computer at a time?  A usb 
to ethernet adapter?

At 06:37 PM 1/13/2008, you wrote:
Insight just ran a cable past our house a couple weeks ago.  I'm also
much to far away from the substation for DSL (10 miles anyway, either
way).  My only other choice was satelite.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
They have. Can't remember who did it. Some big name company.

On Jan 13, 2008 7:22 PM, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This gets me thinking, why don't they build a Linux distro based on a web
 browser interface.




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[MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread jgiels
Well I think that once again I am going to take the Linux plunge. I think it 
was 2 years ago that someone from this list sent me disks of  Slackware 10.1 I 
thank Lt Don. Though it installed rather well I had difficulty setting 
everything up. At the time I had a TV tuner that I used. 

Now my system is simple with 2 cd roms 1 that is a dvd and the other is a 
burner. It has a Iomega drive that I do not really use, the floppy and 56 k 
modem.

I would like to know Linux software is easy to use for all of you. Please let 
me know that size hard drive that is required to run these versions. I would 
remove the modem, and tv tuner before install. Maybe the Iomega and Floppy.

Thanks. to all Douglas

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Redghost
Could be.  The wire center is a few miles away.  Far enough away that  
DSL is not available, but the guy next door has DSL.  I am good with  
cable speeds.  Neighbor is a M$ minion and is trapped using their  
junk hardware

clay

On 13 Jan 2008, at 18:12, Mitch Haley wrote:



 Redghost wrote:

 I like the V.everything that was upgraded to 56k.  It consistently
 turned in a solid 48.000, and at times all the way 52.000.  Then I
 got cable modems and that was that.

 You must not have 6 miles of wire between you and town. I've tried
 an identical Courier, the same 25mhz cpu and version number, but with
 the final v.everything software upgrade. It gets 16.8 or 19.2k. I
 thought that windoze was reporting 1/2 speed, but nope, it brings in
 a little over 2k/sec when I get 2.8k to 3.1k per second throughput on
 the modem with its original 28.8k software.
 Actually, my situation might be worse than just the distance from  
 town.
 My isp's modem bank is in another town 10 miles (and a different area
 code) from the town that my phone service comes from.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Which six?

2008-01-13 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Obviously yes, it takes all the stuff learnt from the 103 and goes up to the 
next step but it's drawback is it complexity.
Apart from some of the early ones (3 litre ones) it uses motronic fuel 
injection/ignition (2.8 and 3.2 litre) and has 24 valves.
Whilst motronic is more efficient, if there is a problem you'll need a tow. 
M103 uses KE jetronic and unless your fuel pump dies will keep going unless 
there is an ignition problem but even those are easier to fix.
So it is fair to say that the 103 is a potentially more reliable motor but 
the 104 is more efficient.
However from my point of view reliability is more important than efficiency, 
fuel usage for the M103 is round about 12-13L/100ks in town (about 8 
cruising at 110kmh) the 104 in 2.8 displacement does a bit better around 
town but not that much better on the open road. I think the 3.2 litre 104 is 
about the same as the 3 litre 103.
Here is a discussion on this topic
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1189311-m103-vs-m104.html
More info
http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic100345.html

So if I was wanting to go fast on the autobahn then yes the M104 would be 
better but if I was gonna have a motor that I have to maintain and fix 
myself then I would choose a 103, also whilst the 104 has more power it does 
not have that much more torque than the 103.

Hendrik

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which six?


 The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than 
 the
 M104) ...

 Absolute nonsense. The M104 is better in many ways.

 RLE


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Re: [MBZ] stick wagon

2008-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Since its twin cam then yes, the plus are in the middle.  Yes, its a 
euro since the only wagon 123 here was diesel

Loren Faeth wrote:
 Looks like a twin cam 280 engine to me, but i didn't think the spark 
 plug wires were in the middle on the 280, are they?  Looks like a 
 Euro version wagon to me.
 
 At 06:36 PM 1/13/2008, you wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1984-mercedes-300-wagon-stick-shift-needs-work_W0QQitemZ230212735611QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2008-01-13 Thread Hendrik Riessen
About the 16 wheels on that car, did they make those mags in 16? I got a 
set like that on my 201 and they are 15.

Hendrik

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed


 No, I dont see how it would be more reliable.  If anything, the other
 way around.

 Craig McCluskey wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


  The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable 
 than
   the M104) ...

 Is this true? How reliable is that?

 What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yea, that was me, but for the sake of God throw those Slack 10.1 CDs into
the trash. They are on version 12 now. Even a geek like me has stopped using
Slack.

Grab PCLinusOS 2007 or Mepis. I think you can have PCLOS CDs sent to your
door for $5.95 if you go to their website. Pretty much the cost of the blank
CD and shipping.

Slack is if you want to learn Linux the hard way (me). PCLOS is if you want
to just use it.

D.


On Jan 13, 2008 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I think that once again I am going to take the Linux plunge. I think
 it was 2 years ago that someone from this list sent me disks of  Slackware
 10.1 I thank Lt Don. Though it installed rather well I had difficulty
 setting everything up. At the time I had a TV tuner that I used.

 Now my system is simple with 2 cd roms 1 that is a dvd and the other is a
 burner. It has a Iomega drive that I do not really use, the floppy and 56 k
 modem.

 I would like to know Linux software is easy to use for all of you. Please
 let me know that size hard drive that is required to run these versions. I
 would remove the modem, and tv tuner before install. Maybe the Iomega and
 Floppy.

 Thanks. to all Douglas

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software

2008-01-13 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Linux is getting easier to use every day, there are various linux versions 
and I would not use one that is more than a few months old. Ubuntu have just 
gone to version 7.10 which addresses a lot of issues. One of the issues I 
have is with my video card which seems to have been addressed in 7.10 but 
still takes a bit of fiddeling.
At the moment I am installing ubuntu 7.04 which picked up my direct internet 
connection and will upgrade to 7.10 before putting my video cardback in the 
box.
You can run most linux distros off a live CD which won't require much space 
at all but for performance a hard drive install is best.
You may want to make a couple of CD's and see which distro is best for your 
system before commiting to a hard drive install.

Hendrik

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 I would like to know Linux software is easy to use for all of you. Please 
 let me know that size hard drive that is required to run these versions. I 
 would remove the modem, and tv tuner before install. Maybe the Iomega and 
 Floppy.

 Thanks. to all Douglas

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt Cheap 1957 Ponton -- $1k

2008-01-13 Thread Kevin Kraly
And another one for $2500.  Much better condition

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/535266341.html

And this one's a Diesel too!  I wish I had $2500 floatin' around!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula

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[MBZ] OT: Cummins generators

2008-01-13 Thread John Freer
Thanks to everyone for their comments. Lots of surfing and found out
that this is a good deal with the wheel kit, electric start and free
shipping.

Prefer Honda but at 3 times the cost, I will settle for 3 or so
debicles increase in noise.

Now that comment about air cooled engines has destroyed a life long
dream to own a older 911!

Thanks again,
John (getting ready for the Big One) Freer

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