Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Without delving too deeply, I can just say that I'm surprised how warm most people keep their homes and businesses. For cat's sake, turn down the thermostat and put on a sweater! I am so stiflingly hot and uncomfortable in many peoples' homes. We keep ours at 62 when I'm home alone and 64 when the wife is here. And another thing: I don't think people should take more than one shower a day. Heck I don't even take one a day. Isn't it shocking? I am willing to deal with the increase in body odor I'd have to endure from the general public. Heck, I'd rather smell that than bad breath, and It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of people have that problem. I think I have a very effective nose or something. It's a curse. You'd think diesel exhaust would kill some smell receptors, but I don't know. (My MB content) Brian One of you guys wrote: Well here's your chance to change your wasteful lifestyle and be the first on your block! Convince your family and friends to modify their lifestyles too! Go ahead! I dare you!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Well, I'm sure you're probably correct about this. On the other hand, I am almost constantly disappointed in the lack of professionalism displayed by the drivers of big rigs (and city and school buses for that matter). It often seems to be a matter of bullying. Yes, truckers have to stand up for their rights and not allow themselves to be inconvenienced by inconsiderate cars, but I often see pushy driving by truckers too. Often this takes the form of tailgating you in the left lane as you try to pass the car in the right lane. So you have to downshift - get over it - you have no right to tailgate. And when you're piloting multiple more tons than the passenger car, I believe your responsibility is pretty grave and you ought to act accordingly or find another line of work. I recall one day on the interstate when I was speeding (yes, believe it or not). And I went to go around a semi, and another semi proceeded to block my way without any reason. Then the two of them created a rolling roadblock for me. I can only assume they took me for the typical clueless driver screwing around and not respecting them. Had I better tires and more power (non-turbo SAAB) I would have nailed it and passed on the shoulder. I'd like to get my hands on these two idiots and see how tough they are on two feet. Brian Phillip wrote: Every truck driver out there would agree with you. If you have ever driven in a big truck and seen the quantity of stupidity demonstrated by the drivers of cars, you realize that the lack of safety is usually the cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 HVAC
it looks like according to the ETM that brown/red is to pin 1 grey/red (2 wires) is to pin 2 middle? brown/violet is to pin 3 I think pin 2 is ground, then pin 1 & 3 left/right To confirm you can of course once the car is hot turn one side hot, other side cold and put punch the EC (economy) button and if you have the proper left/right connection the correct side will get hot since the duovalve is controlling hot water flow to left/right sides individually But likely the connector has very very tiny printing on it for the pin numbers On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Tarek Elshenawy wrote: > Does anyone know or can anyone verify on their vehicle the pin-out > of the > three socket connector on the monovalve (duovalve)? There are four > wires > leading to the connector; however I am uncertain as to which wires > double > up, not to mention which wire goes to each corresponding pin. > > Long story short, the new connector housing and female pins > (sockets) are on > the way from the dealership. I just need to know which two wires > need to be > soldered together and the order the sockets are placed in the > connector. > Thanks in advance. > > Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spray can painting
> did you use rustoleum? No, Zynolite? $1/can at the liquidator's! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?
It's safe to assume not, the conversion was expensive and most weren't. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: 2/21/08 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's? Happen to know whether or not the timing has been converted to dual-chain? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Needs a fuel filter, needs paint and interior, dont have pics yet > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > What is wrong with the 380? You have pics? > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> a SLC > >> > >> Wonko the Sane wrote: > >>> You will trade what? Delivered in Jefferson? > >> > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1291 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 11:05 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Actually, he gave out Jack Daniels miniatures with little blue bows to the guys & coconut rum with little blue bows to the gals. It was his wife's idea. I was not in the room during the birth & was not in the room when my Son was born. Both kids were C section babies. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: 2/21/08 9:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather Good feeling, isn't it. Can we assume you are the one who greeted Joseph into the world wearing a ball cap? Forget the cigars -- send beer. 2008/2/20 Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. > > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1291 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 11:05 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Let's remember as well that the JIT inventory idea came from a MUCH smaller country. I imagine it was easier to arrange shipping when the farthest distance between supplier and factory could only be 300 miles or so...(just guessing..I've no idea how big Japan is) Zedic > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W140 HVAC
Does anyone know or can anyone verify on their vehicle the pin-out of the three socket connector on the monovalve (duovalve)? There are four wires leading to the connector; however I am uncertain as to which wires double up, not to mention which wire goes to each corresponding pin. Long story short, the new connector housing and female pins (sockets) are on the way from the dealership. I just need to know which two wires need to be soldered together and the order the sockets are placed in the connector. Thanks in advance. Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spray can painting
did you use rustoleum? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i painted my 280ce with cans of burgundy rustoleum. > > My Unimog, though looking good at first, now looks like > I might have used a roller and house paint. Very oxidized > looking. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
- Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. > It’s been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife > went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not > able > to fly in from Wisconsin. > Anyways, his name is Joseph Alexander Hargrave & he weighed 7 pounds, 14 > ounces at birth & was born at 5:30 this evening. > I’ve attached a few pictures. > I’m sure I missed a lot of people so please pass this email along to > whomever you see fit. > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > 256-656-1924 - Congratulations, Tom, and congratulations to the new mama and papa! Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spray can painting
> i painted my 280ce with cans of burgundy rustoleum. My Unimog, though looking good at first, now looks like I might have used a roller and house paint. Very oxidized looking. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spray can painting
i painted my 280ce with cans of burgundy rustoleum. i did it fast and sloppy, but i can see it being done well. glasurit and spray booth? bah! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:18 PM, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About 7 years ago in my back yard, I painted both rear quarter panels and > the narrow strip between them immediately forward of the trunk on my 81 > 300D with MB ivory spray cans from Tower Paint. Covered nearby areas on > the > car not being painted with tape and newspapers, and covered rest of car > with > large painter's drop cloth. 'New paint was a perfect match with original > and looked damned good. > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Spray can painting
About 7 years ago in my back yard, I painted both rear quarter panels and the narrow strip between them immediately forward of the trunk on my 81 300D with MB ivory spray cans from Tower Paint. Covered nearby areas on the car not being painted with tape and newspapers, and covered rest of car with large painter's drop cloth. 'New paint was a perfect match with original and looked damned good. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 electric window winder - failure mode?
> I thought the casting was made of pot metal and would break, not bend. It does deform over time. But if you try to bend it back it'll break instantly! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
"R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was not kidding about Rustoleum. Wasn't there a thread on here a > while back about painting a car in this manner? It can be done > reasonably well if one is careful. I have not done a car, but I did > do the tank on my air compressor and it looks pretty good. Nice and > shiny and no runs or that sort of thing. Pretty bad orange peel if > one looks closely but I gather that my error was in using the paint > right out of the can. If one thins it somewhat, then it is possible > to get a decent finish. I am not certain how long it will last but > it can look reasonable - at least good enough for an old and > inexpensive vehicle. As I recall, to make it look "good" you have to thin it out until its nearly like water, and apply a lot of coats and wet sand in between coats. In other words, a lot of work but cheap if you don't value your own time. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Good plan. Grandkids are great. In theory, you can spoil them for a few hours, feed them sugar stuff, then hand them back to your kid as "pay back" for past transgressions. I enjoy sending presents to mine. Fortunately, I have a wife who is much better at picking out "kid gifts" than me, even though she has no biological link to the grandkids. I thought a John Deere ball cap was the perfect 4th birthday gift to my "yuppie" oldest granddaughter. My wife took my suggestion and then sent something more appropriate -- puzzles and stuff like that. And no, I don't wear a John Deere ball cap. I don't do hats unless it is really cold, and then I look like a lost Brit in my snap-brim wool cap. (Harley embroidered, too.) On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They need to grow up some more. > > Bob R > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And why the big push for JIT versus inventory? In part, because > they're taxed on inventory! Your government tax dollars at work! That is no doubt part of it, but also businesses woke up to the opportunity cost of having a lot of capital tied up in large inventories. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Nope. Not yet. My kids are making me wait. That's fine by me. They need to grow up some more. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather You a grand-dad too, Bob? Kleb might have to start a list for us. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lt Don typed: > > "Good feeling, isn't it. > > Can we assume you are the one who greeted Joseph into the world wearing a > ball cap? > > Forget the cigars -- send beer." > > Amen. > I'm surprised there wasn't a photo of wee Joseph suckling on a > keg-er-rator. > > Nice looking tribe there, Tom. > > Bob R > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
You a grand-dad too, Bob? Kleb might have to start a list for us. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lt Don typed: > > "Good feeling, isn't it. > > Can we assume you are the one who greeted Joseph into the world wearing a > ball cap? > > Forget the cigars -- send beer." > > Amen. > I'm surprised there wasn't a photo of wee Joseph suckling on a > keg-er-rator. > > Nice looking tribe there, Tom. > > Bob R > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Lt Don typed: "Good feeling, isn't it. Can we assume you are the one who greeted Joseph into the world wearing a ball cap? Forget the cigars -- send beer." Amen. I'm surprised there wasn't a photo of wee Joseph suckling on a keg-er-rator. Nice looking tribe there, Tom. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Good feeling, isn't it. Can we assume you are the one who greeted Joseph into the world wearing a ball cap? Forget the cigars -- send beer. 2008/2/20 Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. > > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?
Happen to know whether or not the timing has been converted to dual-chain? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Needs a fuel filter, needs paint and interior, dont have pics yet > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > What is wrong with the 380? You have pics? > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> a SLC > >> > >> Wonko the Sane wrote: > >>> You will trade what? Delivered in Jefferson? > >> > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Bill, Just wondering... How much were you earning in the mid 70's? Take care, Chuck On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Bill R wrote: > So we have $.20/gallon in the 1930's and $.23 in the mid 1960's. I > sure wish fuel prices had stayed on that track. In the mid 1970's > I had a grey market Alfa GTV with dual Webbers. I was getting 45 > mpg at 70 mph on the highway and I can't recall the in-town > mileage. I lived on the NW side of Indianapolis and worked a > couple of days a week on the East side. I was averaging $2.50 a > week for fuel, though if you counted repair and maintenance costs > that didn't matter as much as it should have. > BillR > > -Original Message- > From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: 2/21/08 12:19 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > I remember my sister paying a dollar for five gallons of gas during > the > 1930s. This was for the first car in the family; a 1928 Oakland > which had > wooden spoke wheels, a cloth top, and a rumble seat. > > The "filling station" across the street had gravity flow pumps. The > attendant would hand pump the amount of gas you wanted into a glass > cylinder > at the top of the pump which was marked off in gallons, and then it > would > drain by gravity through the hose and into your tank. > Some stations would keep the cylinder full and dispense it between the > gallon marks. > One day we heard a loud boom and the house windows rattled. A > fellow who > was putting gas in the tank of a model T Ford at the station across > the > street was standing over the tank which was under the front seat. > When he > lit a cigarette the gas exploded and blew him out of the car. That > was on > Market Street in New Albany, Indiana. > Gerry > - > - Original Message - > From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Fred, if $.38 is the lowest you remember you are still a kid on this >> list. I remember paying $.23 on a car I was driving. Ocala, FL, >> and had >> to be 1966. >> BillR >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Frederick W Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: 2/20/08 7:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel >> >> At 07:00 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: >>> Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. >>> I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is >>> trying >>> to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. >>> With what >>> looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of >>> Subaru >>> diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price >>> differential in >>> fuel >>> will stay or increase. >>> >>> Brian >>> longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel >>> about >>> $.85 >> >> >> Hi, All. >> Though not the oldest on the list. I can remember when, in 70-71 at >> the Getty station that I ran, premium gas was 38 cents and received >> many complaints that the price was 2 cents too high! >> My latest acquisition is now running on 5 cylinders. Some As..le >> Fumble fingered high I.Q. Type Mekanique, replaced the delivery valve >> seals and left 2 of them loose. (20nm, loosen, 20nm, loosen, 35nm, e >> viola) >> Many thanks to our dear departed Doctor Professor Booth! >> Fred Moir >> Older than dirt. >> Dieselitis Maximus >> 85 300TD >> 87 190DT Bent >> 87 190DT responding to treatment. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: >> 2/19/2008 >> 8:47 PM >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
> Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. Congratulations!!! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Congratulations. And, yes, they are a lot more fun than kids. Enjoy. BillR -Original Message- From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cynthia Streams'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Sedlacek'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brad Magaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cathy Maples R&D Electronics (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Denise Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Don Meiners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Douglas Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jane Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jason Upton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Newby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jim Samuelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lisa Dupree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mike Kourey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pat Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rick Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger Rehfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roy Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Scott Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sharon Hassler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Clingman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stephen Brewster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Gentry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Susan Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tim Forsythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "tom Barnhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Yalanda R Mitchell-Muhammad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Yvonne Abbott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Zyg Jastrebski (TVRC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Karen Hargrave (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "James VanderWier (F1 Solutions)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 2/20/08 8:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] New Grandfather Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. It’s been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not able to fly in from Wisconsin. Anyways, his name is Joseph Alexander Hargrave & he weighed 7 pounds, 14 ounces at birth & was born at 5:30 this evening. I’ve attached a few pictures. I’m sure I missed a lot of people so please pass this email along to whomever you see fit. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0495.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 620928 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0491.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 675798 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0492.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 896532 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0002.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0493.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 805595 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0003.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0494.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 729847 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0004.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
So we have $.20/gallon in the 1930's and $.23 in the mid 1960's. I sure wish fuel prices had stayed on that track. In the mid 1970's I had a grey market Alfa GTV with dual Webbers. I was getting 45 mpg at 70 mph on the highway and I can't recall the in-town mileage. I lived on the NW side of Indianapolis and worked a couple of days a week on the East side. I was averaging $2.50 a week for fuel, though if you counted repair and maintenance costs that didn't matter as much as it should have. BillR -Original Message- From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 2/21/08 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel I remember my sister paying a dollar for five gallons of gas during the 1930s. This was for the first car in the family; a 1928 Oakland which had wooden spoke wheels, a cloth top, and a rumble seat. The "filling station" across the street had gravity flow pumps. The attendant would hand pump the amount of gas you wanted into a glass cylinder at the top of the pump which was marked off in gallons, and then it would drain by gravity through the hose and into your tank. Some stations would keep the cylinder full and dispense it between the gallon marks. One day we heard a loud boom and the house windows rattled. A fellow who was putting gas in the tank of a model T Ford at the station across the street was standing over the tank which was under the front seat. When he lit a cigarette the gas exploded and blew him out of the car. That was on Market Street in New Albany, Indiana. Gerry - - Original Message - From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fred, if $.38 is the lowest you remember you are still a kid on this > list. I remember paying $.23 on a car I was driving. Ocala, FL, and had > to be 1966. > BillR > > -Original Message- > From: "Frederick W Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: 2/20/08 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > At 07:00 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: >>Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. >>I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is >>trying >>to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. With what >>looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of Subaru >>diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price differential in >>fuel >>will stay or increase. >> >>Brian >>longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel about >>$.85 > > > Hi, All. > Though not the oldest on the list. I can remember when, in 70-71 at > the Getty station that I ran, premium gas was 38 cents and received > many complaints that the price was 2 cents too high! > My latest acquisition is now running on 5 cylinders. Some As..le > Fumble fingered high I.Q. Type Mekanique, replaced the delivery valve > seals and left 2 of them loose. (20nm, loosen, 20nm, loosen, 35nm, e > viola) > Many thanks to our dear departed Doctor Professor Booth! > Fred Moir > Older than dirt. > Dieselitis Maximus > 85 300TD > 87 190DT Bent > 87 190DT responding to treatment. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 > 8:47 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 6.3 engine swap.
I think it would be kind of cool to do something like this with an old 3.5SE coupe (sorry, don't know the proper name). But keep it more stock looking than this SL. Oh, and it would have to be silver, dark green, or royal blue. :-) http://www.ritzsite.net/280SL63/01_SL63.htm Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:07 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was not kidding about Rustoleum. Wasn't there a thread on here a while back > about painting a car in this manner? > It can be done reasonably well if one is careful. Don't give me ideas. I am halfway tempted now to go look at the car in the ad I originally posted and buy it and paint it BRG just for the experience. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame
Don't know so much about profiting but me thinks it is more about being in the limelight. I think it is sort of like the rich having a fund raiser for the homeless by putting on a big do and then by the time they paid for all the works and jerks ending up with 200 bucks for the homeless. They all had a fine time and have that warm fuzzy feeling of having done something but end up having achieved nothing but publicity for themselves. Same with that Gore crap, preaching to the converted but the people who should have had a look didn't. I wonder if you did a survey of the top 100 business people, how many actually watched that 'doco'? And of those who did, how many are actually looking into ways of reducing their carbon emissions? Wonder how all those scientists feel that have been saying for years that there may be a problem but Gore sticks his nose in and walks away with a Noble price. If he was half decent he would have given that award to all the scientists on whose work he based his movie. Ahh sorry that's right, along with inventing the internet Al has also single handedly researched all about climate change and it's causes, affects and possible future implications. Hendrik who thinks that Al Gore should be upgraded from super hero status to God status Donald Snook wrote: > Zedic wrote: > > "Do you doubt that there's any truth to this horseshit?" > > That is the magic of Al Gore and his movement. He weaves the tiniest little > slice of truth into all of the other crap, and then acts self righteous when > his critics point out that a lot of what he has alleged is a) not true or > b)speculation at best c) contrary to how he lives his own life. > > Global warming is real - to what extent - is another story. Is it man made? > I am not sure it all is. Does it actually affect us? Not sure about that > either. Does Al Gore want to profit from his gloom and doom prophesy which > is yet to be shown the least bit accurate? THAT is one of the few things I am > certain about. > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Congrats! Can Kaleb come over and try him out? He will need the practise. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:18 PM To: 'Cynthia Streams'; 'Chris Sedlacek'; Brad Magaro; Cathy Maples R&D Electronics (E-mail); Denise Gamble; Don Meiners; Douglas Cook; Jane Dow; Jason Upton; Jay Newby; Jim Samuelson; John Jones; Lisa Dupree; Mike Kourey; Pat Isbell; Rick Walker; Roger Rehfeld; Roy Woods; Scott Clark; Sharon Hassler; Steve Clingman; Stephen Brewster; Steve Gentry; Susan Reid; Tim Forsythe; tom Barnhart; Yalanda R Mitchell-Muhammad; Yvonne Abbott; Zyg Jastrebski (TVRC) Cc: Karen Hargrave (E-mail); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James VanderWier (F1 Solutions) Subject: [MBZ] New Grandfather Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. It’s been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not able to fly in from Wisconsin. Anyways, his name is Joseph Alexander Hargrave & he weighed 7 pounds, 14 ounces at birth & was born at 5:30 this evening. I’ve attached a few pictures. I’m sure I missed a lot of people so please pass this email along to whomever you see fit. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0495.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 620928 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0491.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 675798 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0492.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 896532 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0002.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0493.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 805595 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0003.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0494.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 729847 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0004.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Thankyou. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Randy wisely wrote: "He talks the talk but he does not appear to be living the green life. I consider Gore to be an opportunist trying to take advantage of the hype that he is stirring up. I think we do have issues that need to be addressed but taxing the you know what out of us is hardly the answer." Amen to that! Well said. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
I was not kidding about Rustoleum. Wasn't there a thread on here a while back about painting a car in this manner? It can be done reasonably well if one is careful. I have not done a car, but I did do the tank on my air compressor and it looks pretty good. Nice and shiny and no runs or that sort of thing. Pretty bad orange peel if one looks closely but I gather that my error was in using the paint right out of the can. If one thins it somewhat, then it is possible to get a decent finish. I am not certain how long it will last but it can look reasonable - at least good enough for an old and inexpensive vehicle. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:21 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of quarts of Rustoleum and a few foamy rollers, and the car can be > Blue or Green in no time. > Nah, I think that would be against my neighborhood association bylaws or something. ;) Where I live the standard lawn decoration is less old cars painted with house paint than it is a rusty collection of defunct tractors and a couple of scruffy goats. Actually, my closest neighbors keep hay for their cows in an old cargo trailer next to the road---not the kind you pull with a pickup, but the trailer part of an 18-wheeler. I figure there's very little I could do that could possibly be more of an eyesore than that! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Actually, I wasn't asking about Gore...to me he's unimportant. I was more concerned with what your thoughts are about the phenomenon. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 electric window winder - failure mode?
This is the normal failure mode for that window lift. What happens is that the motor isn't aligned with the gear very well, and the motor gear is bronze and just wears off the teeth on the regulator. You must attach the motor very carefully, using thin shims under the mounting screws to get the gears lined up correctly, and then hope the aluminum casting doesn't warp in use, as is the normal case. Lousy design, no used in later models. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Zedic wrote: "Do you doubt that there's any truth to this horseshit?" That is the magic of Al Gore and his movement. He weaves the tiniest little slice of truth into all of the other crap, and then acts self righteous when his critics point out that a lot of what he has alleged is a) not true or b)speculation at best c) contrary to how he lives his own life. Global warming is real - to what extent - is another story. Is it man made? I am not sure it all is. Does it actually affect us? Not sure about that either. Does Al Gore want to profit from his gloom and doom prophesy which is yet to be shown the least bit accurate? THAT is one of the few things I am certain about. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes used parts inventory for sale (taos)
yea, I was trying to send a craigslist ad to the list with their email a friend deal, didnt work. Frederick W Moir wrote: > All I get is server error. > Fred Moir > > At 06:30 PM 2/21/2008, you wrote: >> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Url: >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080221/a30f6431/attachment.pl >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes used parts inventory for sale (taos)
All I get is server error. Fred Moir At 06:30 PM 2/21/2008, you wrote: >An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... >Name: not available >Url: >http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080221/a30f6431/attachment.pl > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest tire on 300D. was: Low Profile Tires: Was 300TE
I still have the original tires and rims from an old porsche (28 years old), 27,000 kms on them. Not sure I'd want to drive on them. lol. Most cars, I find 3-5 years about average for what I drive. They still have tread on them, but they've been cycled so many times, most of the sticky is gone. Ed 300E On 21/02/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My experience would indicate that old tires crack badly enough that you > will notice and change them. I had a set of > Bridgestone Steel Belted Radials on my old Chevy pickup for close to 20 > years. They were blems when I bought them > in about 1985. They only got about 13000 miles on them in the 20 years > that they were on the truck but by the end I > didn't think it safe to keep going. There were cracks in the tread wide > enough that I could see the steel belting. > They were so out of round that the truck rode like a bucking bronco but > they still held air and would also > withstand a pretty good load in the box. I would occasionally go a couple > of miles from home to get a yard of > topsoil or of crushed rock. The tires never gave up. > I put a set of Goodyear light truck radials on it for about $500 and > doubled the value of the truck about 3 or 4 > years ago and then parked it at the lake. It has not had plates on it for > the past 2 years. > > Randy > > > -Original Message- > > > So I'm curious, what's everyones opinion on the max age of a tire, > regardless of mileage before they toss it? > > Ed > 300E > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mercedes used parts inventory for sale (taos)
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Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather
Tom, Many congratulations on becoming a Grandfather. Wishing all of your family much happiness and many fun years together. Ed 300E On 20/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. > > > > It's been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife > went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not > able > to fly in from Wisconsin. > > > > Anyways, his name is Joseph Alexander Hargrave & he weighed 7 pounds, 14 > ounces at birth & was born at 5:30 this evening. > > > > I've attached a few pictures. > > > > I'm sure I missed a lot of people so please pass this email along to > whomever you see fit. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 > 10:26 AM > > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 100_0495.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 620928 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 100_0491.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 675798 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0001.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 100_0492.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 896532 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0002.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 100_0493.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 805595 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0003.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 100_0494.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 729847 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0004.jpe > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 electric window winder - failure mode?
Gang, I was inspecting the driver's electric window mechanism on the 280SEL last night. The window is in the habit of slipping down. The motor works, but the glass falls. Opening up the door revealed that the large gear on the lifter is badly worn on one side and needs to be replaced. My question is about the wear pattern: it is one-sided, and it looks like the motor gear and regulator gear are not on the same plane, causing the regulator gear to rub against the support and wear on one side only. I can't see anything obvious that is broken or hanging loose. The casting looks bent where the regulator gear passes between it and the door inner skin, which is odd because I thought the casting was made of pot metal and would break, not bend. Is there some typical failure mode of the window motor/winder assembly that would cause the gear to rub against the support and thus wear unevenly? Apart from replacing the window regulator, is there something else I should be looking for (eg. I have not yet removed the motor to inspect its gear, but I assume that MB specified the motor gear to be harder steel than the regulator gear!). TIA, D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 93 300E "Bucking"
HI all, The Kano Kroil spray finally freed up the se filter screws. I replaced the filter and have experienced no further bucking. Thanks for everyone's help. Dave H... -- From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:53 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 93 300E "Bucking" > Given the amount of fuel pumped around the system I would say that a > blocked filter is not your problem but worth doing anyway, as is the > intank strainer. > > David Hemsley wrote: >> Hi All, >> I have a 93 300E that I love has never given my any problems - Besides >> which it has history with me since it was my father's car. >> >> Two/Three days ago my Lady ran it really low on fuel. When I refueld I >> noticed that at bare minimum speed/idle levels she seemed to be >> "bucking." I thought perhaps water in the fuel and put dry gas in at the >> next stop. >> >> This did not stop the "bucking" noticeable when standing still as the >> idle would fluctuate between 5 and 10. Upon acceleration it would >> disappear. when first trying to move froma stop it appears to want to >> stall then takes off and seems to be operational. >> >> I started to figure a fuel filter. Who knows the last time this was >> replaced >> >> Bought a fuel filter - $62.00 For a fuel filter ? >> >> How is everyone freeing up rusted screws, nuts, bolts etc? WD 30 wil not >> even begin to do the job. I cannot begin to replace the old filter if I >> can't even take it off:) >> >> >> Dave H... >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Grandfather
Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. It’s been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not able to fly in from Wisconsin. Anyways, his name is Joseph Alexander Hargrave & he weighed 7 pounds, 14 ounces at birth & was born at 5:30 this evening. I’ve attached a few pictures. I’m sure I missed a lot of people so please pass this email along to whomever you see fit. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0495.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 620928 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0491.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 675798 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0492.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 896532 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0002.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0493.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 805595 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0003.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_0494.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 729847 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080220/daa984b6/attachment-0004.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Time and money. Considering that the goods have to be shifted from factory to rail head and then at the other end from rail head to final destination. Easier and more likely cheaper to just have a truck take the goods from A to B. There are systems in place where the whole trailer is put onto rail and they just have to hook up a semi, perhaps a Mercedes semi (for a bit of MB content). Hendrik Fmiser wrote: >> I agree, it has always puzzled me why there's so many big >> bloody trucks about when it's much more efficient to ship via >> rail! >> > > >> Zedic >> > > Time. > > A truck can get a load from one coast to the other in 5-8 days. > Every time, any destination. > > The railroad takes longer, and if it's not a major market at > each end it is even longer. > > Boats and barges are still the most efficient use of fuel - but > they are even slower and more route restricted than rail! > > -- Philip > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
If I didn't already have a good 300SD, I would definitely consider this one since it's $100 more than I paid for mine. If he's got a receipt for the replacement tranny, that makes it even better. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi+, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?
Needs a fuel filter, needs paint and interior, dont have pics yet Wonko the Sane wrote: > What is wrong with the 380? You have pics? > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> a SLC >> >> Wonko the Sane wrote: >>> You will trade what? Delivered in Jefferson? >> > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I fail to see how further taxing is going to do anything but line the governments pockets R A Bennell wrote: > I don't know how much coverage you folks get of Canadian news (none? - USA is > a bit introverted in many ways) but > British Columbia provincial government just introduced a carbon tax. They > will tax all sorts of fuel for vehicles, > heating etc. I guess they think that it is "green" to tax further in order > to save the planet. If this sort of > thing carries on, I'm gonna need to move to a warmer climate as it is a bit > much to expect a poor old bu**er like > me to freeze in the dark just to save the world for my non-existent (at this > stage anyway) grandchilren. > > One would think that ownership of a real old MB diesel would be sufficient > evidence of my good enviromental wishes > without looking for ways to tax me to reinforce Al Gore's message, but then, > governments of all stripes do love to > tax us. > > Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Randy wisely wrote: "He talks the talk but he does not appear to be living the green life. I consider Gore to be an opportunist trying to take advantage of the hype that he is stirring up. I think we do have issues that need to be addressed but taxing the you know what out of us is hardly the answer." Amen to that! Well said. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Phillip wrote: "A truck can get a load from one coast to the other in 5-8 days. Every time, any destination. The railroad takes longer, and if it's not a major market at each end it is even longer." I agree with that, except it is a lot safer to have that cargo on the trains - at least safer for those cars on the interstate. I also agree that a lot of the safety problems associated with trucks are not the fault of the truckers, but rather the morons who don't know how to drive. BUT, just having more and more big trucks on the roads increases the chances of accidents. And accidents involving two cars are a lot less deadly to the other vehicles, than accidents involving 18 wheelers. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
So far what has amazed me about the alernatives is how many of these > companies seem to see no way to make money with new technologies?? Any alternative will "hurt the economy" Nonsense, what simpleton horseshit that is! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Donald, Do you doubt that there's any truth to this horseshit? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Andrew S. wrote: "Randy, you have to rethink your views on Al Gore. I suggest you view "Inconvenient Truth" if you haven't already done so. If you have, then there is no real hope for a rapid conversion." Well, I did view it and it was exactly what I expected - horseshit! Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:21 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of quarts of Rustoleum and a few foamy rollers, and the car can be > Blue or Green in no time. > Nah, I think that would be against my neighborhood association bylaws or something. ;) Where I live the standard lawn decoration is less old cars painted with house paint than it is a rusty collection of defunct tractors and a couple of scruffy goats. Actually, my closest neighbors keep hay for their cows in an old cargo trailer next to the road---not the kind you pull with a pickup, but the trailer part of an 18-wheeler. I figure there's very little I could do that could possibly be more of an eyesore than that! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Jeff Zedic wrote: > The one thing that will make people modify their behaviour is to increase > the cost of doing it! They simply refuse to do it otherwise...guess we > haven't evolved all that much You can also make the alternative cheaper. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
> > I think we do have issues that need to be addressed but taxing the you > know what out of us is hardly the answer. > > Randy > > Well here's your chance to change your wasteful lifestyle and be the first on your block! Convince your family and friends to modify their lifestyles too! Go ahead! I dare you!! People seem to be waiting for a "leader" to show them what to do.why?? It's not rocket science. Why not make a change just because you can? The one thing that will make people modify their behaviour is to increase the cost of doing it! They simply refuse to do it otherwise...guess we haven't evolved all that much Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
A couple of quarts of Rustoleum and a few foamy rollers, and the car can be Blue or Green in no time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone How come the cheap ones are always beige? If this were green or blue I'd be all over it like a cheap suit. This one stood out from the usual pack of 123s and 126s, though, because the price is reasonable and the seller seems honest. At least he admits the A/C is busted, ACC unit needs resoldering, and there's a vacuum leak. (Or maybe the first two symptoms are just the result of no vacuum to the ACC?) http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/581294559.html Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Portland CL: Cheap 126 SD for someone
How come the cheap ones are always beige? If this were green or blue I'd be all over it like a cheap suit. This one stood out from the usual pack of 123s and 126s, though, because the price is reasonable and the seller seems honest. At least he admits the A/C is busted, ACC unit needs resoldering, and there's a vacuum leak. (Or maybe the first two symptoms are just the result of no vacuum to the ACC?) http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/581294559.html Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No MB: 1910 Los Angeles Air Meet website
http://archives.csudh.edu:2006/cdm4/aviationmeet.php ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp003 0002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
> I agree, it has always puzzled me why there's so many big > bloody trucks about when it's much more efficient to ship via > rail! > Zedic Time. A truck can get a load from one coast to the other in 5-8 days. Every time, any destination. The railroad takes longer, and if it's not a major market at each end it is even longer. Boats and barges are still the most efficient use of fuel - but they are even slower and more route restricted than rail! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
He talks the talk but he does not appear to be living the green life. I consider Gore to be an opportunist trying to take advantage of the hype that he is stirring up. I think we do have issues that need to be addressed but taxing the you know what out of us is hardly the answer. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Randy, you have to rethink your views on Al Gore. I suggest you view "Inconvenient Truth" if you haven't already done so. If you have, then there is no real hope for a rapid conversion. P.S. It's perfectly OK to drive old diesels and be a Gore supporter. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:13 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how much coverage you folks get of Canadian news (none? - USA > is a bit introverted in many ways) but > British Columbia provincial government just introduced a carbon tax. They > will tax all sorts of fuel for vehicles, > heating etc. I guess they think that it is "green" to tax further in > order to save the planet. If this sort of > thing carries on, I'm gonna need to move to a warmer climate as it is a > bit much to expect a poor old bu**er like > me to freeze in the dark just to save the world for my non-existent (at > this stage anyway) grandchilren. > > One would think that ownership of a real old MB diesel would be sufficient > evidence of my good enviromental wishes > without looking for ways to tax me to reinforce Al Gore's message, but > then, governments of all stripes do love to > tax us. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:04 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > > HA! At least one thing is cheaper in D.C. ($3.49/gal for diesel at last > sighting) > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Timothy Robinson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Just noticed today, $3.599 for diesel. Last I filled a few weeks ago was > > $3.349. > > > > > From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:51 -0500 > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Cathey wrote: > > >> > > >> Refinery fire the other day in Texas (?). Talking head said > > >> that it was actually a pretty small refinery, but that the market > > >> would probably react disproportionately. I'm sure gas prices > > >> shot up in speculation, not due to any actual shortage in supply. > > > > > > What I like is when the price of crude jumps in response to a > > > reduced ability to refine it. Totally bassackwards, but that's > > > the way it always seems to go. The senseless jumps in crude > > > are usually shortable, april contracts are back down to 98.55 > > > already. $1450 a contract for going short at $100 isn't a huge > > > gain, but it makes a nice day's pay. > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Right! It was $.139/gallon. Talk nice about those chicks, they're somone's Grandma now! Pete -- Original message -- From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Fmiser wrote: > > > I paid $.0139 during the "Gas Wars" in Connecticut, about 1959 > > > or so. They pumped it too! > > > > > > Some stations had young ladies in bathing suits pumping gas > > > and handing out glasses and such. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > 1.4 cents per gallon ?! > > > > I think you misplaced the decimal. *smile* > > > > He was too busy noticing the young ladies, obviously. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I paid $.0139 during the "Gas Wars" in Connecticut, about 1959 > > or so. They pumped it too! > > > > Some stations had young ladies in bathing suits pumping gas > > and handing out glasses and such. > > > > Pete > > > 1.4 cents per gallon ?! > > I think you misplaced the decimal. *smile* > He was too busy noticing the young ladies, obviously. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
It seems than at Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:38:57 -0800, Zoltan wrote: > I don't know how much crude was at the time. Didn't follow > that back then, and I only know nowadays because it's all over > the news due to its all-time high price. > Interesting about the tax added to diesel. So without it, > diesel would have been even cheaper in relation to gas than it > was? > > Clearly if this tax is still in place it needs to be looked > at. Heck, you would have thought back in the 80s when Benz was > cranking out diesel powered automobiles, a stink would have > been raised over this tax. Well, maybe it wasn't raised > because the price was not a problem and it was, after all, > still cheaper than gas. Even when MB and VW and BMW and GM were all selling lots of diesel cars, the quantity of diesel used by cars was a _lot_ less than big trucks. It still is. Lets figure a ordinary solo driver will log 2500 miles (4025 km) per week. A typical truck could achive 6.25 mi/gal (2.65 l/km) This results in 400 (1500 l) gallons per week. In my 240D, it would take me 6 months to use the same quantity of fuel the truck uses every week. Thus my usage and tax is just a "drop in the bucket". > Actually, I'd love it if there could be a separate highway > system for freight trucks. Safety would be hugely improved and > the truckers could go about throwing their weight around among > themselves instead of trying to intimidate passenger car > drivers (broad generalization - yes). I know - totally > unfeasible to accomplish. I'm just saying. > > Brian Every truck driver out there would agree with you. If you have ever driven in a big truck and seen the quantity of stupidity demonstrated by the drivers of cars, you realize that the lack of safety is usually the cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
> I paid $.0139 during the "Gas Wars" in Connecticut, about 1959 > or so. They pumped it too! > > Some stations had young ladies in bathing suits pumping gas > and handing out glasses and such. > > Pete 1.4 cents per gallon ?! I think you misplaced the decimal. *smile* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
It seems than at Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:43:50 +1030, Hendrik wrote: > Aren't drivers of large vehicles paying more fuel tax/mile? > > Hendrik Yes. Most states only have part of the "road tax" for cargo transport added to the fuel. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Might as well rent that new movie by that Michael Moore guy about the great health care in Cuba too, you'll want to move there and totally eliminate your carbon footprint. Maybe Al can fly you there in his jet. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > Randy, you have to rethink your views on Al Gore. I suggest you view > "Inconvenient Truth" if you haven't already done so. If you have, then > there is no real hope for a rapid conversion. > > P.S. It's perfectly OK to drive old diesels and be a Gore supporter. > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:13 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I don't know how much coverage you folks get of Canadian news (none? - USA >> is a bit introverted in many ways) but >> British Columbia provincial government just introduced a carbon tax. They >> will tax all sorts of fuel for vehicles, >> heating etc. I guess they think that it is "green" to tax further in >> order to save the planet. If this sort of >> thing carries on, I'm gonna need to move to a warmer climate as it is a >> bit much to expect a poor old bu**er like >> me to freeze in the dark just to save the world for my non-existent (at >> this stage anyway) grandchilren. >> >> One would think that ownership of a real old MB diesel would be sufficient >> evidence of my good enviromental wishes >> without looking for ways to tax me to reinforce Al Gore's message, but >> then, governments of all stripes do love to >> tax us. >> >> Randy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:04 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel >> >> >> HA! At least one thing is cheaper in D.C. ($3.49/gal for diesel at last >> sighting) >> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Timothy Robinson < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Just noticed today, $3.599 for diesel. Last I filled a few weeks ago was >>> $3.349. >>> >>> From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:51 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Jim Cathey wrote: > Refinery fire the other day in Texas (?). Talking head said > that it was actually a pretty small refinery, but that the market > would probably react disproportionately. I'm sure gas prices > shot up in speculation, not due to any actual shortage in supply. > What I like is when the price of crude jumps in response to a reduced ability to refine it. Totally bassackwards, but that's the way it always seems to go. The senseless jumps in crude are usually shortable, april contracts are back down to 98.55 already. $1450 a contract for going short at $100 isn't a huge gain, but it makes a nice day's pay. Mitch. >>> > >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biggest tire on 300D. was: Low Profile Tires: Was 300TE
My experience would indicate that old tires crack badly enough that you will notice and change them. I had a set of Bridgestone Steel Belted Radials on my old Chevy pickup for close to 20 years. They were blems when I bought them in about 1985. They only got about 13000 miles on them in the 20 years that they were on the truck but by the end I didn't think it safe to keep going. There were cracks in the tread wide enough that I could see the steel belting. They were so out of round that the truck rode like a bucking bronco but they still held air and would also withstand a pretty good load in the box. I would occasionally go a couple of miles from home to get a yard of topsoil or of crushed rock. The tires never gave up. I put a set of Goodyear light truck radials on it for about $500 and doubled the value of the truck about 3 or 4 years ago and then parked it at the lake. It has not had plates on it for the past 2 years. Randy -Original Message- So I'm curious, what's everyones opinion on the max age of a tire, regardless of mileage before they toss it? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words
BrianI wrote: "I take comfort in this notion as I see us almost invariably being the butt of every joke and ridiculous depiction in commercials and television and film. You know - the bumbling, child-like husband being chastised by the wife, or the stupid white guy who is generally backwards and clueless about life among the hip, noble minorities, etc etc." Very true Brian, I always say "stupid white guy" when a commercial does this. We are shown as "girly men, plump and clueless" while the others look like they stepped out of a Sears catalog and are the smartest people on earth. Don't believe this is not having their intended effect, remember the "potato". Harry On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Refreshing to hear this acknowledged by someone other than me. > > I touched upon this in a paper I wrote for school. It goes without saying > it > wasn't a very Berkely-like institution or I would be expelled and probably > detained for re-education and put on some sort of watch list. (sorry, > Ernest). Amazingly my paper was graded fairly even by my instructor - the > one who told us George Washington was a terrorist. > > If you take an honest look at it, being a White, American, heterosexual > male > is the hardest type of person to be in society today. We get zero breaks > and > are held to the very highest standards of behavior toward others. But the > White male really doesn't need my defending - it's the group most capable > of > defending itself that it is most socially acceptable to attack. Or at > least, > I take comfort in this notion as I see us almost invariably being the butt > of every joke and ridiculous depiction in commercials and television and > film. You know - the bumbling, child-like husband being chastised by the > wife, or the stupid white guy who is generally backwards and clueless > about > life among the hip, noble minorities, etc etc. > > Brian > > Rich wrote:although, it seems that white people, as the "dominant" group > are > "allowed" to be > targeted in this fashion. > > This is your diversity lesson for the day. > > --R > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Randy, you have to rethink your views on Al Gore. I suggest you view "Inconvenient Truth" if you haven't already done so. If you have, then there is no real hope for a rapid conversion. P.S. It's perfectly OK to drive old diesels and be a Gore supporter. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:13 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how much coverage you folks get of Canadian news (none? - USA > is a bit introverted in many ways) but > British Columbia provincial government just introduced a carbon tax. They > will tax all sorts of fuel for vehicles, > heating etc. I guess they think that it is "green" to tax further in > order to save the planet. If this sort of > thing carries on, I'm gonna need to move to a warmer climate as it is a > bit much to expect a poor old bu**er like > me to freeze in the dark just to save the world for my non-existent (at > this stage anyway) grandchilren. > > One would think that ownership of a real old MB diesel would be sufficient > evidence of my good enviromental wishes > without looking for ways to tax me to reinforce Al Gore's message, but > then, governments of all stripes do love to > tax us. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:04 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > > HA! At least one thing is cheaper in D.C. ($3.49/gal for diesel at last > sighting) > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Timothy Robinson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Just noticed today, $3.599 for diesel. Last I filled a few weeks ago was > > $3.349. > > > > > From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:51 -0500 > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Cathey wrote: > > >> > > >> Refinery fire the other day in Texas (?). Talking head said > > >> that it was actually a pretty small refinery, but that the market > > >> would probably react disproportionately. I'm sure gas prices > > >> shot up in speculation, not due to any actual shortage in supply. > > > > > > What I like is when the price of crude jumps in response to a > > > reduced ability to refine it. Totally bassackwards, but that's > > > the way it always seems to go. The senseless jumps in crude > > > are usually shortable, april contracts are back down to 98.55 > > > already. $1450 a contract for going short at $100 isn't a huge > > > gain, but it makes a nice day's pay. > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
>> Actually, I'd love it if there could be a separate highway system for >> freight trucks. > > They've got it. It's called the railroad. It really p***es me > off that it's been largely let go to seed. With that working > correctly, and smaller last-mile delivery trucks, we'd have a > very efficient (in terms of fuel) system that would be a lot > easier on roads. And companies with high I/O needs would again, > as before, cluster along RR lines to avoid the need for that > last delivery. Humph. > -- Jim Problem is that the RRs are a series of monopolies. If you want to ship your freight or semi full of freight to many places, you have the choice of only one railroad company and you have to pay their price. Nationalizing the railroads probably wouldn't work but nationalizing the tracks (just like the interstate system is "nationalized") might work. That way, you'd have numerous startups and established companies running to the same places, and the "market" (competition) would keep the prices within reason. I've seen articles outlining how this could be done using a traffic control system similar to air traffic control. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I'd just remove the pump, 'cause working on that side of the > engine is just plain icky. I can remove the pump in less than an hour. Including removing the vacuum pump first? I had to replace mine and didn't enjoy it one bit. Plus I don't know what I did with the "basket"---can I get a new one to put on while the IP is off, I wonder? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
Personally, I'd just remove the pump, 'cause working on that side of the engine is just plain icky. I can remove the pump in less than an hour. The large o-ring from an OM617 oil filter housing will function quite well as the bottom plate gasket. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Alex Chamberlain > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar > > (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I > > can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. > > What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or > > otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for > > it to be retimed. > > If anyone's interested here's two posts from the other forums (what > other forums?) on the subject. > > http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1767696 > http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=24554 > > I love jobs where people say "You need to stand on your head and have > a set of offset ratcheting veeblefetzers and SPIDER MONKEY SIZE HANDS > if you want to have a CHANCE to get the inside back corner screw off!" > I consider that a challenge. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar > (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I > can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. > What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or > otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for > it to be retimed. If anyone's interested here's two posts from the other forums (what other forums?) on the subject. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1767696 http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=24554 I love jobs where people say "You need to stand on your head and have a set of offset ratcheting veeblefetzers and SPIDER MONKEY SIZE HANDS if you want to have a CHANCE to get the inside back corner screw off!" I consider that a challenge. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The railroads actually seem to be making a comeback. True, and there's no better proof of the fact than that Warren Buffett's been loading up on Burlington Northern stock. Man knows an infrastructure trend when he sees one if anybody does. Of course, I'm not giving anyone investment advice here. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I agree with you Ed. I really enjoy the trains...especially now that I live in a country where the actually HAVE trains to use. In October we went to Paris on the TGV. Talk about smooth! Like a baby's bum at 320 km/hr! Even changed tracks at that speed! Apparently the French have a prototype rail based train that can do 580 km/hr! Woohoo!! Meanwhile, back here in the boonies, I take the GO train and it rattles and hums at a whopping 100-110 km/hryawn...chunky, clunky and painfully slow... Hopefully when the price of fuel rises some more, people will realise that the short-sighted designs of our cities will make us pay! hahaha, I can't wait! It's also better to get off the train and be in the city centrenot 50 km away. And I don't mind lugging my luggage on and off instead of having to wait in the terminal for ages. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
> In today's market where > people spend millions of dollars to minimize their inventory on hand, > when they need to meet demand they need it to be met quickly. Rail is > finally starting to work on that! :) And why the big push for JIT versus inventory? In part, because they're taxed on inventory! Your government tax dollars at work! "Taxation: helping to wreck the roads every day. Don't worry, we'll tax you to help fix the roads too!" -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I remember taking the train as a kid and young teen many times, over driving or flying. I find flying now, on those 4-5 hour flights are just a pain and wast of time. You spend more time in customs at either end, than you do in the air. There was a real romance about boarding a train. I often took the old Turbo between Toronto and Montreal, and if felt very much like boarding the Concorde of trains. The seating would rival any First Class airplane ticket at the time, and you would walk around, sit up in the 747 type engine where there was a bar. Snack bar was very cool, and the best part, they had a microwave!! They'd reheat a hotdog or hamburger, bun already on. Sure, it was all soggy, and so hot it melted the plastic to the bun, but it was amazing all the same. The cars were all joined, without the usual doors between each car, just one long articulated tube. It was fast, smooth, and very modern at the time. It had it's problems, and was pulled out of service, but it was pretty cool at the time. It's replacement was more conventional and reliable, but felt like a big step back. Much like we have given up the Concorde to ride double decker buses in the sky. Am I the only one bored with the offerings of the past 30 years? Oh, the good old days. OMG, did I just say that? Guess I'm now officially old. hee hee. Ed 300E ps. regular is $1.10 per litre here today. I find I get similar mileage if I drive slow or fast, so I opt for fast. ;-) On 21/02/2008, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Cathey wrote: > > They've got it. It's called the railroad. It really p***es me > > off that it's been largely let go to seed. With that working > > correctly, and smaller last-mile delivery trucks, we'd have a > > very efficient (in terms of fuel) system that would be a lot > > easier on roads. And companies with high I/O needs would again, > > as before, cluster along RR lines to avoid the need for that > > last delivery. Humph. > > > The railroads actually seem to be making a comeback. Lots of them are > expanding and upgrading their tracks(double tracks and upgrading to > higher speed corners in downtown ($$$) areas). The folks at Trains > magazine are also commenting on the increase in business. Most of them > say it is coming from the saturated highway system. > > They have many years of neglect to recover from though. > > > John > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Jeff Zedic wrote: > I agree, it has always puzzled me why there's so many big bloody trucks > about when it's much more efficient to ship via rail! > > Someone on this list responded a couple of years ago when I ranted about > this, that the problem was the railways following the current business > idealcorner the market and sodomise the client. Because of this the > trucking industry filled the gap and we have the silly mess we have now. It looks like they are finally realizing that they need to have a marketing & sales department!! I think they've also started to improve their turnaround time. IE, drop off to pick up time. I think I remember reading that it takes trucks 3 days to bring freight across the country, but rail was 4 or 5 days since it had to sit in a rail yard for about a day at both the source and destination. In todays market where people spend millions of dollars to minimize their inventory on hand, when they need to meet demand they need it to be met quickly. Rail is finally starting to work on that! :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
i boughtmy first diesel about a decade ago. fuel was 70 cents a gallon at the truck stop on I85 in doraville, GA. fuel prices are going to wreck us On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sounds pretty good, diesel has been 3.69 to 3.89 all winter here in WA > > On Feb 20, 2008 7:21 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gas and diesel shot up this morning here in Wichita. > > > > Refinery fire the other day in Texas (?). Talking head said > > that it was actually a pretty small refinery, but that the market > > would probably react disproportionately. I'm sure gas prices > > shot up in speculation, not due to any actual shortage in supply. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Rory Morrison > Oroville, WA > 1985 300SD > 1982 300TD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I agree, it has always puzzled me why there's so many big bloody trucks about when it's much more efficient to ship via rail! Someone on this list responded a couple of years ago when I ranted about this, that the problem was the railways following the current business idealcorner the market and sodomise the client. Because of this the trucking industry filled the gap and we have the silly mess we have now. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words
it's from a famous book . as a product of our public schools, you couldn't possibly know that On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know. > > quixotic - nice. Time for dictionary.com > > Brian. > > > Gary wrote:i see no answer to this situation. again, no future. a few > will > fight, but > it is quixotic and, frankly, silly. most will just keep watching american > idol and at least be terrorized into paying lip service allegiance to the > prevailing propaganda. and guys like me will never apologize or repent, > but > really will not do much of anything else either. > > it's a pretty pathetic landscape. the best advice i can give you is to > become a substance abuser or compulsive gambler to try to get your mind > off > these sort of issues. or maybe you can find a more constructive > distraction. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Jim Cathey wrote: > They've got it. It's called the railroad. It really p***es me > off that it's been largely let go to seed. With that working > correctly, and smaller last-mile delivery trucks, we'd have a > very efficient (in terms of fuel) system that would be a lot > easier on roads. And companies with high I/O needs would again, > as before, cluster along RR lines to avoid the need for that > last delivery. Humph. The railroads actually seem to be making a comeback. Lots of them are expanding and upgrading their tracks(double tracks and upgrading to higher speed corners in downtown ($$$) areas). The folks at Trains magazine are also commenting on the increase in business. Most of them say it is coming from the saturated highway system. They have many years of neglect to recover from though. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
> Actually, I'd love it if there could be a separate highway system for > freight trucks. They've got it. It's called the railroad. It really p***es me off that it's been largely let go to seed. With that working correctly, and smaller last-mile delivery trucks, we'd have a very efficient (in terms of fuel) system that would be a lot easier on roads. And companies with high I/O needs would again, as before, cluster along RR lines to avoid the need for that last delivery. Humph. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ShoeGoo, etc.
Ha, I used some expensive competitor's product to fix a X-country ski boot, just yesterday--I didn't buy the stuff. Seems to have worked just dandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: A truly amazing thing occurred today. > > I used my tube of ShoeGoo to repair a shoe!!! > > This stuff is amazing. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D status
Probably should Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:01:37 -0800 From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D status To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > Hmmm, might not be a bad idea to replace those proactively huh? Especially before investing $40 in refrigerant. Harbor Freight had a kit of assorted sizes in blue that I bought one of. About $10, which was cheaper than just buying the right ones at NAPA, and will do several compressors. > 2 cans of Autofrost (which seems to be enough for one car) is about > $40. You could always try the $8 test refrigerant... -- Jim - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ShoeGoo, etc.
used shoegoo 2 days ago - works great. have plumbers goo - good to know its the same as automotive THANKS! cm Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A truly amazing thing occurred today. I used my tube of ShoeGoo to repair a shoe!!! This stuff is amazing. Then, 'cause I was bored (or trying to avoid other thing I ought to be doing) I found this info about their other products. * Amazing GOOP® and Craft GOOP® contain a thinner formula for precise, detailed work. * Wood & Furniture GOOP® is a thicker, non-slump formula perfect for vertical and overhead applications. * Automotive GOOP®, Household GOOP® and Plumbing GOOP® are all the same formula. * Lawn & Garden GOOP®, Marine GOOP®, RV GOOP® and Sport and Outdoor GOOP® are all UV-resistant. * Shoe GOO® is a more rubbery formula allowing for greater flexibility. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, "Wulf" -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, "Der Abschleppwagen" & '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt & '84 300Dt -Anke & Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) & Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Alan wrote: "Lowest price I clearly remember as a kid was $0.79/gal for regular. As recently as the mid 1990s I could buy gas for $0.97 - $0.99 near Joliet IL there were two stations there that were always in a price war it seemed." When I first started driving, gas was $.74/gal. I drive a 1978 Oldsmobile Delta 88. I remember one time, I didn't know if I could make it home and only had 52 cents in the ashtray. I pulled into a station that offered a 4 cent discount on gas if bought paid cash. So, I put in 56 cents and brought my 52 cents to the register. The guy was laughing at me and told me the discount was only good if you bought a whole gallon. He gave me a break and didn't beat the other four pennies out of me. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I paid $.0139 during the "Gas Wars" in Connecticut, about 1959 or so. They pumped it too! Some stations had young ladies in bathing suits pumping gas and handing out glasses and such. Pete -- Original message -- From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I can remember my grandfather carping about $0.23 regular and him giving me > a blast for driving that "krautwagon" (my '72 220D)that used $0.32 diesel > fuel. This was in '76-'77. > Bob R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Bill R > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > Fred, if $.38 is the lowest you remember you are still a kid on this list. > I remember paying $.23 on a car I was driving. Ocala, FL, and had to be > 1966. > BillR > > -Original Message- > From: "Frederick W Moir" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: 2/20/08 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > At 07:00 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: > >Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. > >I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is trying > >to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. With what > >looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of Subaru > >diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price differential in > fuel > >will stay or increase. > > > >Brian > >longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel about > $.85 > > > Hi, All. > Though not the oldest on the list. I can remember when, in 70-71 at > the Getty station that I ran, premium gas was 38 cents and received > many complaints that the price was 2 cents too high! > My latest acquisition is now running on 5 cylinders. Some As..le > Fumble fingered high I.Q. Type Mekanique, replaced the delivery valve > seals and left 2 of them loose. (20nm, loosen, 20nm, loosen, 35nm, e viola) > Many thanks to our dear departed Doctor Professor Booth! > Fred Moir > Older than dirt. > Dieselitis Maximus > 85 300TD > 87 190DT Bent > 87 190DT responding to treatment. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Aren't drivers of large vehicles paying more fuel tax/mile? Be careful what you wish for or you might find yourself driving a A class and paying three times as much for fuel to fund the separate highway system for heavy vehicles. Hendrik Zoltan Finks wrote: > I don't know how much crude was at the time. Didn't follow that back then, > and I only know nowadays because it's all over the news due to its all-time > high price. > Interesting about the tax added to diesel. So without it, diesel would have > been even cheaper in relation to gas than it was? > > Clearly if this tax is still in place it needs to be looked at. Heck, you > would have thought back in the 80s when Benz was cranking out diesel powered > automobiles, a stink would have been raised over this tax. Well, maybe it > wasn't raised because the price was not a problem and it was, after all, > still cheaper than gas. > > I do agree with the concept that the more damage a vehicle does to the road, > the more its operator should pay in road tax. But I haven't fully thought > the issue through in terms of: Goods have to get shipped, and we all > need/want them, so why penalize those in the business of shipping them? I do > know that when I see a tractor trailer on the road around my house, I sorta > cringe at the wear they are putting on the road. (and I cringe for a couple > other reasons) I guess as someone who spends a lot of time on a bicycle, the > road edge is important to me. > > Truth told, I think that in this age of crisis in terms of oil and > environment and road congestion, (yes the last one IS a crisis!), folks who > opt to drive vehicles that are considerably larger than they need ought to > be made to contribute more somehow. I guess if your vehicle registration or > tax is weight-based, that's something, but I don't suspect it's enough. > > So I say let's repeal the tax on diesel fuel. And let's levy a tax on, at > least, those who drive full sized pickup trucks and SUVs and cannot prove > they have an actual need to do so. I know this would add a layer of > bureaucracy, but I'd still be for it. As for penalizing trucking companies, > I don't know - maybe just if they drive through town? > > Actually, I'd love it if there could be a separate highway system for > freight trucks. Safety would be hugely improved and the truckers could go > about throwing their weight around among themselves instead of trying to > intimidate passenger car drivers (broad generalization - yes). I know - > totally unfeasible to accomplish. I'm just saying. > > Brian > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT) Football -- words
I know. quixotic - nice. Time for dictionary.com Brian. Gary wrote:i see no answer to this situation. again, no future. a few will fight, but it is quixotic and, frankly, silly. most will just keep watching american idol and at least be terrorized into paying lip service allegiance to the prevailing propaganda. and guys like me will never apologize or repent, but really will not do much of anything else either. it's a pretty pathetic landscape. the best advice i can give you is to become a substance abuser or compulsive gambler to try to get your mind off these sort of issues. or maybe you can find a more constructive distraction. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
I don't know how much crude was at the time. Didn't follow that back then, and I only know nowadays because it's all over the news due to its all-time high price. Interesting about the tax added to diesel. So without it, diesel would have been even cheaper in relation to gas than it was? Clearly if this tax is still in place it needs to be looked at. Heck, you would have thought back in the 80s when Benz was cranking out diesel powered automobiles, a stink would have been raised over this tax. Well, maybe it wasn't raised because the price was not a problem and it was, after all, still cheaper than gas. I do agree with the concept that the more damage a vehicle does to the road, the more its operator should pay in road tax. But I haven't fully thought the issue through in terms of: Goods have to get shipped, and we all need/want them, so why penalize those in the business of shipping them? I do know that when I see a tractor trailer on the road around my house, I sorta cringe at the wear they are putting on the road. (and I cringe for a couple other reasons) I guess as someone who spends a lot of time on a bicycle, the road edge is important to me. Truth told, I think that in this age of crisis in terms of oil and environment and road congestion, (yes the last one IS a crisis!), folks who opt to drive vehicles that are considerably larger than they need ought to be made to contribute more somehow. I guess if your vehicle registration or tax is weight-based, that's something, but I don't suspect it's enough. So I say let's repeal the tax on diesel fuel. And let's levy a tax on, at least, those who drive full sized pickup trucks and SUVs and cannot prove they have an actual need to do so. I know this would add a layer of bureaucracy, but I'd still be for it. As for penalizing trucking companies, I don't know - maybe just if they drive through town? Actually, I'd love it if there could be a separate highway system for freight trucks. Safety would be hugely improved and the truckers could go about throwing their weight around among themselves instead of trying to intimidate passenger car drivers (broad generalization - yes). I know - totally unfeasible to accomplish. I'm just saying. Brian On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > > And when gas was $.97 per gallon and diesel about $.85 per gallon, the > price > of crude oil was how much a barrel? > > But it's not just the price of crude oil. The cost of labor & construction > materials has more than doubled since the 70s. > > Diesel is higher than regular gas because of a tax that was added onto > diesel in the early 80s. Back then, the interstate system was in serious > financial trouble and the government was trying to find a way to fund > repairs & new construction. They analyzed traffic and discovered that > truckers & their loads were responsible for more than 80% of the wear on > the > interstate road system. They needed a tax that was tied directly to road > usage and an additional tax on diesel fuel made perfect since because back > then over 99% of all "on road" diesel was burned by truckers. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:00 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel > > Yes, 3.79 here for the frothy stuff. > I still think overall the government or some evil entity in power is > trying > to counteract the benefits diesel drivers get in fuel mileage. With what > looks like diesel popularity increasing faster than ever (talk of Subaru > diesels and Honda diesels and the like) I bet the price differential in > fuel > will stay or increase. > > Brian > longing for the days when gas was like $.97 per gallon and diesel about > $.85 > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Regular unleaded 3.09 premium 3.29 and diesel is 3.39. > > > > That's only a few cents above what it's been here in Oregon for months > > now. > > I think we have some of the highest fuel prices in the continental U.S. > > > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > > 1983 300sD 267Kmi+, Ursula, 28-30MPG Hwy at 65MPH, and a bit less at > 75MPH > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Che
Re: [MBZ] OT: Redneckism: was Football
I gotta say: That was informative. Brian On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:02 AM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first redneck was the first person who got the condition/disease > called > pellegra many eons ago and spent time out in the sun with his neck > exposed. > > >From wikipedia: Pellagra is a vitamin deficiency disease caused by > dietary > lack of niacin (B3) and proteinsnip > > The symptoms of pellagra include: > High sensitivity to sunlight > Aggression > Dermatitis > Smooth, beefy red glossitis > Red skin lesions > Insomnia > Weakness > Mental confusion > Diarrhea > Eventually dementia > > The main results of pellagra can easily be remembered as "the four D's": > diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, and death.[4].. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellagra > > When white settlers started farming in the Southeastern U.S., they adopted > the indigenous Amerindians diet of corn, greens, and minimal meat; but > they > didn't adopt the Indians method of preparing the corn for cooking. The > Indians soaked their corn overnight before cooking it which released > vitamin > B-3 (niacin); but the settlers didn't. The result was endemic pellegra of > various degrees and their necks became red from exposure to the sun while > working in the fields. > > During the late 19th and early 20th century the Deep South was dotted with > insane asylums which housed large numbers of patients with dementia which > was often misdiagnosed as schizophrenia. Many researchers think this was > the result of the patients niacin deficiency because the number of > dementia/schizophrenia case declined markedly after niacin was added to > basic foods and strictly subsistence living declined. > > Blacks also suffered from these disorders during that era but they weren't > branded as "rednecks" because their "red necks" were not as obvious as > they > were on whites. > > When one looks at the mental/emotional symptoms caused by niacin > deficiency; > Aggression, Insomnia, Weakness, Mental confusion, and Dementia; and then > thinks of all the mental, physical, and emotional deficiencies of which > both > white and black "rednecks" are often accused; one wondered how much of > this > was, and still is, caused by a niacin-deficient diet. > > Note #1: Before the "all natural" craze began in the U.S., most > "manufactured" foods had vitamin additives. Now you don't see those as > often. I wonder if we're soon going to see vitamin deficiencies of all > sorts as a result? Moral of this story: Take your vitamin pills. > > Note #2: Anyone old enough to remember the Hadacol craze 60 or so years > ago? Its "inventor" and his entourage travelled the Deep South like an > old > medicine show. People loved Hadacol because it made them feel better and > the inventor became a millionaire. It's secret ingredient? Vitamin > B-Complex, which included niacin. Many people laughed and said it was the > 30% alcohol content which made it popular, but taken a tablespoon at a > time, > that was unlikely. Was it because niacin deficient southerners finally > had > a source of niacin? > > Little story: When I worked at a charity hospital many years ago, drug > company samples the interns and residents received would be placed in a > large box in the ER for any of the professional staff to use themselves. > One day an intern with a cold and cough tipped up a small bottle of what > he > thought was cough medicine and drank it down. Shortly his whole head > turned > beet red, the ER staff thought he had been poisoned and quickly pumped his > stomach. Someone finally thought of looking at the bottle. > It was "invigorating" medicine for old, confused patients and its active > ingredient was niacin. > > If anyone on the list thinks they might be niacin (nicotinic acid, > niacinamide) deficient and buys a bottle of 100 mg tablets, don't panic if > your face and head flushes and you feel hot all over for a while. It's a > harmless effect of large doses of niacin which goes away fairly quickly. > > Gerry > > From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My understanding is that it originated around the time of the American > > civil war, when a bunch of white southerners would get together to > > terrorize the plantation workers into behaving themselves and not go > > running off. Sort of an early version of the KKK and would wear a red > > bandanna around their necks to signify their belonging to this gang. > > I don't think the term redneck is racist because it does not apply to a > > whole race but is derogatory, although some may be proud to be rednecks. > > Like the term hillbilly or flatlanders. > > Then you get into the grey area of slang terms for people of a certain > > country like krauts, frogs and poms. > > > > Hendrik > > who likes to make up history as he goes along, easier that way > -- >
