Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control.
Well I am beginning to feel that this is going to be the way I end up. Hate the price but it will make the car as it should be. the only thing I have to do is convince my SO. Douglas I sell the Unwired Tools kit for $675.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Climate Control. Ralph W wrote: My Indy just inherited a '79 W116 with a broken unit. What's the story on replacement? Can only find used or rebuilt units. Both still have the same inherent problems, and will eventually fail. Does Rusty still sell them rebuilt and for how much. I think so, and it is *expensive*!! Think four digits. What's the chance of finding a good used one on Ebay or elsewhere? Possible but not likely. And if you do find a good one, it will be really close to the price of the aftermarket electronic replacement This is really the only solution unless you want to roll your own... it is pricey, but maintains full functionality of the original system. Maybe not something you want to spend on a free car, but there it is... http://unwiredtools.com/accii.asp HTH! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cool Cockpits
A lot of those bring back old memories. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 Diesel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/ff3f3a63/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
Will do on the repair piece, I didn't know they existed... While I suspect it would work in the bed to weld with a torch (or braze) you're not suppsoed to because apparently the sheet metal has been heat treated. I don't remember the exact problem but I was given to understand there'd be a problem. From the looks of things my biggest problem is going to be that the bed appears to have been galvanized. Its okay I just won't breathe while I'm welding... ;) (Its a joke kid...) -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:38:55 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 499c2b8f.9020...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I'm planning to weld in some overly thick sheet steel, 16ga maybe? Get yourself a square foot of ribbed bed repair metal. Fits better (making the welding easier) and looks better. Some friends of mine refloored a Bronco with sheet metal scraps, hammers, ox-acetylene, and brazing rod. If the truck had any computers, they would have been safe. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/43e6dc2d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
Yuck... A. Big hole. With a hole saw (rather than careful cutting) I suspect I'd have to come out with a 3 diameter hole at least, maybe 4. B. I'd have to have a slippery static creating bedliner... My plan, once the repair is complete is to have the thing Rhinolined. I did Herculiner on my Dakota which I was reasonably happy with. Its nice to be able to throw something in the back and have have it mostly stay put. Of course when hauling a snowmobile it is slightly more difficult to get the thing out... Everything comes with a cost. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:15:55 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpaepmmpaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Use a hole saw to make a nice neat drain hole where the bad spot is. Paint the edges to avoid further rust. Install a nice plastic bed liner over the top. Randy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/4dd4666a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
Yes, and it's especially saddening to see one in such disrepair when last I saw it, it was an awsome, vibrant, potent, living, breathing thing that could spring to life at the touch of a switch and the push of a throttle and easily soar at 600+ mph and 40 kfeet from here to anywhere in the world (refueled in flight, of course). Wilton - Original Message - From: Walter Lasher waltlas...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits A lot of those bring back old memories. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 Diesel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/ff 3f3a63/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST), Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com said: Yuck... A. Big hole. With a hole saw (rather than careful cutting) I suspect I'd have to come out with a 3 diameter hole at least, maybe 4. B. I'd have to have a slippery static creating bedliner... Not all bedliners are slippery. I had one in my F150 that was very grippy. I can't recall the name of it, but if you're interested I can find out. It was an actual liner, not a spray-on or coating. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST), Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com said: Yuck... A. Big hole. With a hole saw (rather than careful cutting) I suspect I'd have to come out with a 3 diameter hole at least, maybe 4. B. I'd have to have a slippery static creating bedliner... Not all bedliners are slippery. I had one in my F150 that was very grippy. I can't recall the name of it, but if you're interested I can find out. It was an actual liner, not a spray-on or coating. I've only seen sprays (sticky) poly inserts (slick) and rubber floormats (sticky). I guess I didn't catch the fact that Curt doesn't already have a liner. I just assumed that he bought a rusty truck because he was too lazy to look under the liner. Now I'm thinking he bought a rusty truck because he was too lazy to look under the snow in the bed. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hey Andrew
Whatever happened with your old wagon? I recall when you were looking to sell it but don't ever recall the end result. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
Both of our F150's have the Ford bedliner in them and although it is plastic, I don't find it all that slippery. They have worked fine for us. I did pull the one in the 98 and have a look under it once but have not done so with the 02. The bed under the liner in the 98 looked fine. I don't know as though I would have gone out looking for one if the trucks hadn't come to me with them installed, but I am happy enough to leave them in there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST), Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com said: Yuck... A. Big hole. With a hole saw (rather than careful cutting) I suspect I'd have to come out with a 3 diameter hole at least, maybe 4. B. I'd have to have a slippery static creating bedliner... Not all bedliners are slippery. I had one in my F150 that was very grippy. I can't recall the name of it, but if you're interested I can find out. It was an actual liner, not a spray-on or coating. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
BTW, the ones of B-52H they're calling early are really NOT so early; they're 'bout '77 to mid-'80's. That's considering that they were built in '61 -'62. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits Yes, and it's especially saddening to see one in such disrepair when last I saw it, it was an awsome, vibrant, potent, living, breathing thing that could spring to life at the touch of a switch and the push of a throttle and easily soar at 600+ mph and 40 kfeet from here to anywhere in the world (refueled in flight, of course). Wilton - Original Message - From: Walter Lasher waltlas...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits A lot of those bring back old memories. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 Diesel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/ff 3f3a63/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines
I had a failure on one of these lines and thought I would share the details. The day after they were installed on my 85 TD, I had to replace the valve cover gasket. I removed one end of one line and slid it back on after repairs was made. It started leaking immediately. It came off and on without requiring abuse. This was only a one time event so is not a good test, however, its not for me anymore unless I have the wrong stuff. Anyone know? Bought new to me in November. HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, BLACK Harry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/194346ae/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Grill?
http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
R A Bennell wrote: http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Euro style grill, sitting under a US style star, framed by US spec headlamps? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
I think they are referring to an early H model, as opposed to a later H, not that an H is a early B-52. That is ludicrous, as you point out. Based on the other models, I looked at, this was the pattern, that Early refers to Early in a particular designation, as in Early P51D being later than a Late P-51C. At 12:31 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote: BTW, the ones of B-52H they're calling early are really NOT so early; they're 'bout '77 to mid-'80's. That's considering that they were built in '61 -'62. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits Yes, and it's especially saddening to see one in such disrepair when last I saw it, it was an awsome, vibrant, potent, living, breathing thing that could spring to life at the touch of a switch and the push of a throttle and easily soar at 600+ mph and 40 kfeet from here to anywhere in the world (refueled in flight, of course). Wilton - Original Message - From: Walter Lasher waltlas...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits A lot of those bring back old memories. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 Diesel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/ff 3f3a63/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
If anybody wants them I have them for $79.95 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] Grill? http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines
harry watkins wrote: HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, BLACK The stuff that Rusty sells is listed as 3.2x1.9mm, or 1/8 ID x a bit more than 1/16 wall. You got the right size, but it's possible the barbs cut up the inside of the hose when you pulled it off. I don't recall messing with anything but throttle linkage to take the valve cover off my 300SD. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NASCAR pilots
http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pilot/2009/march/nascar0903.html?WT.mc_id=090220epilotWT.mc_sect=gan ** Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp; ncid=emlcntusyelp0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/2e3ca60c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
Yes, I understand that. They're referring to an early H model. Cockpit
equipment/controls shown in those designated early actually went into use
'bout '77 in the H's, which were built in '61 - '62. Having many hours in
H's with the early/original/'61-62 layout AND the equipment that went into
use in 'bout '77 (EVS/FLIR, etc.), I can easily recognize the difference.
I'd call an early H cockpit one with their original setup from '61-62'
through 'bout '66/'67, when terrain avoidance systems were added. The next
significant change was in 'bout '77 with addition of EVS/FLIR, low light
level TV, forward-looking infrared and some other much more sophisticated
equipment. Other very significant changes to H equipment occurred in 'bout
late '80's, when all new bombing/navigation systems were installed. A
program is underway now, to replace even that late '80's equipment.
Wilton
5000 hours in B'52D, E, F, G, H
- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
I think they are referring to an early H model, as opposed to a
later H, not that an H is a early B-52. That is ludicrous, as you
point out. Based on the other models, I looked at, this was the
pattern, that Early refers to Early in a particular designation, as
in Early P51D being later than a Late P-51C.
At 12:31 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote:
BTW, the ones of B-52H they're calling early are really NOT so early;
they're 'bout '77 to mid-'80's. That's considering that they were built
in
'61 -'62.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
Yes, and it's especially saddening to see one in such disrepair when
last
I
saw it, it was an awsome, vibrant, potent, living, breathing thing
that
could spring to life at the touch of a switch and the push of a
throttle
and
easily soar at 600+ mph and 40 kfeet from here to anywhere in the
world
(refueled in flight, of course).
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Walter Lasher waltlas...@yahoo.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Cool Cockpits
A lot of those bring back old memories.
Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350 Diesel
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger
Since the hole in the bed is almost perfectly round I think the rust started from a rock hitting the bed underneith and chipping the paint, it then rusted through from underneith. Its a hard spot to see from underneith because its just in front and above the spare tire. So no I didn't lie on the ground and look up... My plan right now is to pull the bed, the more I think about it the more I think theres probably a disconnect for the taillight wiring at the left side taillight. I pull that, pull the 4 bolts and get 3 beefy friends to help me lift the bed off onto some beefy sawhorse type deals. Then I can weld above and from underneith and can more easily make sure I do a good paint job underneith to stop this from happening again. -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:32:15 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding on the Ranger To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 499ee91f.4030...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:54:41 -0800 (PST), Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com said: Yuck... A. Big hole. With a hole saw (rather than careful cutting) I suspect I'd have to come out with a 3 diameter hole at least, maybe 4. B. I'd have to have a slippery static creating bedliner... Not all bedliners are slippery. I had one in my F150 that was very grippy. I can't recall the name of it, but if you're interested I can find out. It was an actual liner, not a spray-on or coating. I've only seen sprays (sticky) poly inserts (slick) and rubber floormats (sticky). I guess I didn't catch the fact that Curt doesn't already have a liner. I just assumed that he bought a rusty truck because he was too lazy to look under the liner. Now I'm thinking he bought a rusty truck because he was too lazy to look under the snow in the bed. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/cfb915c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
No... Theres no accounting for taste though, I don't like the wheels at all either. -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:46:37 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: [MBZ] Grill? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpcealnaaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/4c2fe68e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
I've seen one of those grills in real life - it's just as ugly as it is in the picture. I like the 8-hole wheels, on a 124, doesn't look right on the 123. If they are real MB wheels, the off-set will be wrong as well. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: No... Theres no accounting for taste though, I don't like the wheels at all either. -Curt Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:46:37 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: [MBZ] Grill? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpcealnaaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/4c2fe68e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/e30026b0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
It looks like something that would be on a Daewoo Monster Dump Sedan --R R A Bennell wrote: http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
It woulld look a LOT better as purely a 123 and not as a cross between a 123 and something else. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grill? It looks like something that would be on a Daewoo Monster Dump Sedan --R R A Bennell wrote: http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cut Scene from Dr. Strangelove
For you Kubrick fans out there: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/9798/piefight.htm Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Viton tubing for injector return lines
I must have routed that line to the outside of the throttle without leaving enough room. I actually gave the car away after I got new fluids, battery, wipers and filters installed, so I can't go look. Again, this was only one time event, but I don't recall that occurring with the cloth type that Rusty sells. Harry HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, BLACK The stuff that Rusty sells is listed as 3.2x1.9mm, or 1/8 ID x a bit more than 1/16 wall. You got the right size, but it's possible the barbs cut up the inside of the hose when you pulled it off. I don't recall messing with anything but throttle linkage to take the valve cover off my 300SD. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
Look, just to help you people recover from the sickness caused by looking at that Asian style grille, here are some nice 123's and a 115 http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars-for-sale/ nice price too... Hendrik whose 123 is almost as nice as those OK Don wrote: I've seen one of those grills in real life - it's just as ugly as it is in the picture. I like the 8-hole wheels, on a 124, doesn't look right on the 123. If they are real MB wheels, the off-set will be wrong as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ugly grill
...http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml... You are right. It's butt-ugly. And those wheels are too pimpish on a 123. RLE ** Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp;ncid=emlcntusyelp0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/08f4e567/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] many stars
...Euro style grill, sitting under a US style star, framed by US spec headlamps?.. Euro? Nah, just aftermarket. RLE ** Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesamp;ncid=emlcntusyelp0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/75ec4711/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
That is Just Plain Fugly R A Bennell wrote: http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
Yep, nice!!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grill? Look, just to help you people recover from the sickness caused by looking at that Asian style grille, here are some nice 123's and a 115 http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars-for-sale/ nice price too... Hendrik whose 123 is almost as nice as those OK Don wrote: I've seen one of those grills in real life - it's just as ugly as it is in the picture. I like the 8-hole wheels, on a 124, doesn't look right on the 123. If they are real MB wheels, the off-set will be wrong as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
I love the first car, the gray W123! Ed 300E 2009/2/20 Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Look, just to help you people recover from the sickness caused by looking at that Asian style grille, here are some nice 123's and a 115 http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars-for-sale/ nice price too... Hendrik whose 123 is almost as nice as those OK Don wrote: I've seen one of those grills in real life - it's just as ugly as it is in the picture. I like the 8-hole wheels, on a 124, doesn't look right on the 123. If they are real MB wheels, the off-set will be wrong as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/6bae2c71/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grill?
Those grills were the thing to some people in the '80s. Then again, so were dress shoes without socks. Ed 300E 2009/2/20 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net That is Just Plain Fugly R A Bennell wrote: http://unwiredtools.com/cp_1980_300cd.shtml Does anyone here think that grill looks good? It just does not appeal to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/87400751/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT T8 vs T12 Fluorescents
I know that T8 fluorescent tubes put out more lumens per watt than T12 tubes. Will they interchange? Can I put T8's in my old 4' shop light fixtures? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car for sale
Anyone interested in a '79 300SD? It's in south central Missouri. I have, um, a few W123s around my place. Enough that out here where they are rare I often have folks stop by to chat, look for parts, ask advise, etc. Today a fellow stopped by for the second time. He has a 300SD he has owned and wants to sell. He was wondering if I was interested. I declined. I have enough projects and don't need to add an oddball chassis to my fleet. Why, then I'd have to collect some 116 parts cars... I have not seen it. He says it runs, and the heater system mostly works. (That's the ACCII, isn't it?) He mentioned $500. I'm reluctant to post a phone number on a public list, so if anyone expresses interest, on of off list, I'll send a phone number direct. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car for sale
That's a Kaleb price. Bob R On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone interested in a '79 300SD? It's in south central Missouri. I have, um, a few W123s around my place. Enough that out here where they are rare I often have folks stop by to chat, look for parts, ask advise, etc. Today a fellow stopped by for the second time. He has a 300SD he has owned and wants to sell. He was wondering if I was interested. I declined. I have enough projects and don't need to add an oddball chassis to my fleet. Why, then I'd have to collect some 116 parts cars... I have not seen it. He says it runs, and the heater system mostly works. (That's the ACCII, isn't it?) He mentioned $500. I'm reluctant to post a phone number on a public list, so if anyone expresses interest, on of off list, I'll send a phone number direct. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090220/0d4010cf/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stinky car
I have had an odd experience this last week. I take my '82 240D the car on a 250 mile trip. 10 miles into it I notice a terrible stink! Sort of like fried eggs that sat in the sun and spoiled. Toward the end of the of the trip I notice my two-way radios have an alternator whine in the receive audio. The stink had now gotten so bad that when I fueled, just standing down-wind of the car was unpleasant. I tried to figure out where the smell was coming from. It sort of seemed to be coming out the heater vents, but not really. It also seemed to be worse sitting still than on the highway. I had no clues - so I ignored it! *grin* My wife took the car a couple days later. If anything, the stink was worse. When she got home, I park the car outside with the doors open to air it out. I decided to spray lysol into the heater air intake to maybe do something about the smell. I ended up replacing the starboard wiper blade pivot. No, that had nothing to do with the stick! But to get to the intake, I pulled off the wiper box cover. While doing that I discovered the drain for that pivot had clogged and the pivot housing was in _really_ bad shape. 10 minutes later I had a one pulled from my private parts yard. I spray a bunch of Lysol in the intake, ran the fan, and put it all back together again. Still no conclusive data on the source of the smell. A couple days later later the car won't start. No, it's not from having the doors open while airing it out. Good guess though - I turned off the dome lights. The block heater was plugged in and it wasn't very cold. A jump start got it going. Turned it off once in the middle of the 60 mile trip and it cranked slow when it started - but it did start. Didn't turn it off for the other stops. *smile* Well, a stink I'll ignore, but not starting is a bit more serious. And I have toy - er, _tool_ to help track down the problem. There has been a bit of no start history with this car. About 2 month ago I had a bad solenoid on the starter on this 240D. Since then it's been starting fine. Then about 2 weeks ago it didn't start. Maybe I left the trunk open too long, or something like that. Most annoying was the fact I was 700 miles away and it wasn't me that had to use the old truck to jumpstart. The interior light turned on, the glow relay click, but that's about all it would do. Less than 5 minutes on the jumper cables (4 AWG) and it started fine. Fast forward. First step in a no start is to check battery voltage. 4.9!!! No wonder it didn't start! Hook up the charger to the 4 year old battery. About an hour later I disconnect the changer, let it rest for a couple minutes and check the voltage again. 5.2 Volts. About then I notice a bubbling sound from the battery. I start to get a glimmer... I lean over to make sure that's where the sound is coming from. I happen to breath in. (I do that rather often...) The stinky smell It's the battery!! I open the vent caps to see the water level. It's so low on _every_ cell I can't see _any_ liquid. So did the battery just die, or did the voltage regulator kill it? With a jump, I started the car and measured 17 V at idle. I _seriously_ overcharged battery, boiled to death!! About 8 months ago the brushes wore out and I replaced the brush/regulator assembly. Oh well. I removed the screws and found that one ear had broken off, the other was cracked. So the problem was a mechanical failure. I have a new-in-the box regulator/brush unit on the shelf, so stuck it in. I noticed that it didn't seat all the way in when the screw holes lined up. It's a 240, so there's a lot of room under the hood compared to a 300 turbo - but still not enough to see, so I remove the alternator. With it sitting on the work bench with bright overhead lights I could see the hole in the alternator housing wasn't big enough for the protrusions on the bottom of the brush unit. In other words, it didn't fit! I wanted a second opinion. I got that from one of the parts cars. Same thing. And both of these were shaped the same as the now-broken one. What to do? What I did was took the parts car part and a file and grind wheel and made it fit. And I bought a new battery... So the moral of the story is, check your windshield wiper drain to make sure it's not plugged. Actually, I'm guessing the alternator must have come from an older car and the regulators are _almost_ interchangeable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT T8 vs T12 Fluorescents
No, but you can buy new fixtures. At 09:00 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote: I know that T8 fluorescent tubes put out more lumens per watt than T12 tubes. Will they interchange? Can I put T8's in my old 4' shop light fixtures? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stinky car
10 miles into it I notice a terrible stink! Sort of like fried eggs that sat in the sun and spoiled. Toward the end of the of the trip I notice my two-way radios have an alternator whine in the receive audio. And right about here I'm saying to myself Voltage regulator! Lots of sulfur in a car battery. Needs to stay there! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stinky car
Fmiser wrote: 10 miles into it I notice a terrible stink! Sort of like fried eggs that sat in the sun and spoiled. Toward the end of the of the trip I notice my two-way radios have an alternator whine in the receive audio. Jim wrote: And right about here I'm saying to myself Voltage regulator! Lots of sulfur in a car battery. Needs to stay there! Yeah, next time I will too! In all the years with all the cars and all the batteries, I've never cooked one enough to make it smell! But now I know! *grin* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower control unit
Does anyone know how to get the blower speed control unit and the temperature control unit out of an '83 300D Turbo without taking out the dash cover? It looks like both are mounted on a piece of metal that is not fastened at the back. I see one screw where a strip is fastened to the firewall. These are above the glove box and accessible with the glove box removed. I unplugged the blower, put 12v on it and it runs fine, but the cable that goes to it shows a dead short. The pushbutton control unit board is fried and out of the car; the thin coils in the resistor unit under the hood for the blower control shows overheating. I have the electrical manual for that car, and best I can figure out the short must be either in the blower control unit or the resistor bank under the hood. I already have a replacement pushbutton unit and have a source for whatever other parts, so I'll probably wind up replacing all the climate control units, but I need to get the blower unit; and possibly the temperature unit out; in order to identify the cable numbers and check the cables for shorts. Thanks, Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090221/66c7e4ae/attachment.html -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1963 - Release Date: 02/20/09 19:22:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stinky car
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Re: [MBZ] Blower control unit
Does anyone know how to get the blower speed control unit and the temperature control unit out of an '83 300D Turbo without taking out the dash cover? I believe they just unplug from their socket. They're very replaceable, anyway. No need to take out the dash or anything like that. The power resistors do get hot. Not blued metal case hot, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower control unit
Unplug all wiring and check for continuity again. This will make sure it's not a wiring issue. Luther Archer wrote: Does anyone know how to get the blower speed control unit and the temperature control unit out of an '83 300D Turbo without taking out the dash cover? It looks like both are mounted on a piece of metal that is not fastened at the back. I see one screw where a strip is fastened to the firewall. These are above the glove box and accessible with the glove box removed. I unplugged the blower, put 12v on it and it runs fine, but the cable that goes to it shows a dead short. The pushbutton control unit board is fried and out of the car; the thin coils in the resistor unit under the hood for the blower control shows overheating. I have the electrical manual for that car, and best I can figure out the short must be either in the blower control unit or the resistor bank under the hood. I already have a replacement pushbutton unit and have a source for whatever other parts, so I'll probably wind up replacing all the climate control units, but I need to get the blower unit; and possibly the temperature unit out; in order to identify the cable numbers and check the cables for shorts. Thanks, Gerry -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
