Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
Have you considered replacing the biodegradable wiring harness instead of repairing it? It's an expensive part, but a funky one can cause a bunch of problems. In my car's case, three cylinders quit firing. --mf On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
Thanks much for the info. I use a Mini-ITX desktop to run Windows Media Center. It's about the size of a toaster. Has a Zotac MB with Atom dual core CPU. That's 1.6Ghz with Nvidia Ion video. Plays Blu-Ray and HDTV smoothly at 1080. I tested a single core Atom computer (FitPC2), but it stuttered just a bit when running at 1080. Did 720 okay. This computer uses less than 1/3rd the power of my quad-core AMD and the video is smoother. The Fit PC is way cool. It does tent to get too warm in my opinion because of the hard drive. SSD would probably be ideal but is too pricey for me to play with right now. http://fit-pc2.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are those $299 netbook things any good? I love the two netbooks in my house (Dell Vostro and Asus Eee) for web browsing. They are as fast as anything else with a lightweight Linux distro (Mint, Puppy, etc.). Forget about serious typing with those little keyboards, though. For the original poster (Dave W.), I'm going to take the contrarian view from everyone else here and suggest a refurbished IBM Thinkpad. Beautiful big screen, plenty fast enough, will probably come with XP Pro installed but they're very Linux-friendly so it shouldn't be a hassle at all to put Ubuntu on it if you want. Most importantly they are built like tanks and so are more likely than any new $300 laptop to survive repeated trips through the mail. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
I bought a year or so ago an Acer Aspite One ZG5 for just under $ 200 (refurbished). Great little thing to have on the coffee table. 10 screen, Win XP Pro SP3, onboard wireless, 140 Gig HDD, 2 SD card slots, 3 USB ports, Ethernet and VGA ports,NO CD drives though. OS on HDD partition for repait/re-install (Acer eRecovery). On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:29 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks much for the info. I use a Mini-ITX desktop to run Windows Media Center. It's about the size of a toaster. Has a Zotac MB with Atom dual core CPU. That's 1.6Ghz with Nvidia Ion video. Plays Blu-Ray and HDTV smoothly at 1080. I tested a single core Atom computer (FitPC2), but it stuttered just a bit when running at 1080. Did 720 okay. This computer uses less than 1/3rd the power of my quad-core AMD and the video is smoother. The Fit PC is way cool. It does tent to get too warm in my opinion because of the hard drive. SSD would probably be ideal but is too pricey for me to play with right now. http://fit-pc2.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are those $299 netbook things any good? I love the two netbooks in my house (Dell Vostro and Asus Eee) for web browsing. They are as fast as anything else with a lightweight Linux distro (Mint, Puppy, etc.). Forget about serious typing with those little keyboards, though. For the original poster (Dave W.), I'm going to take the contrarian view from everyone else here and suggest a refurbished IBM Thinkpad. Beautiful big screen, plenty fast enough, will probably come with XP Pro installed but they're very Linux-friendly so it shouldn't be a hassle at all to put Ubuntu on it if you want. Most importantly they are built like tanks and so are more likely than any new $300 laptop to survive repeated trips through the mail. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] AC Compressor staying engaged.
AC Compressor is staying engaged even though the temps are in low 20's F. It does disengage when in economy mode or off button is pushed on CCU. Is this caused by a faulty switch or relay. Any suggestions or trouble shooting write-ups would be appreciated. thanks, Mike 1984 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Hi Don - As you noted, quality may have suffered, but there are many more things at work here that dictate inflation of 1 specific model. In addition to the reduced quality you mentioned are things like: improved electronics which also cost* much less do more, increases in productivity when building the cars through the use of robots, reduced overheads, changes in the materials used in the cars, building cars in non-union areas (the ML in Al.) - all of these and more go into the price escalation. While your calculation of the increased price was correct it's not accurate when looking at one particular product. Also, the E350 may seem to a grandson of the E300, there's been a lot of changes made to it - perhaps enough to consider the E350 no longer related to the E300. New bodies, new engines, new controls, new materials of construction, etc may make it no longer a straightforward comparison. But I'm glad to hear the price of the '91 E300 - it gives me a pretty good idea what my 91 300D cost - I'd guess at around $51k or $52K. * = consider the cost hard drives and memory - and last I heard there were over 2 dozen computers on a new MB!. Memory costs have been driven down so far that some companies have been pushed near bankruptcy. In the last ~20 years we've gone from having 10MB or 20MB hard drives to 500GB - 2TB hard drives for similar prices - or cheaper. (that's the technology increase I experienced in the corporate world at least) More ability in less space. Take Care - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now I got the '91 300E that my daughter and SiL bought last year today. Looking through the books, I found the original window sticker. This 124 has leaster seats, memory doors, adjustable stearing column, and head light wipers. It was $47,550 in Dec. of 1990. I just priced an E350, same color, leater seats, no other options at $51,065. Doesn't seem like enough of an inflation factor. I found the NASA inflation calculator - http://cost.jsc.nasa.gov/inflation/nasa/inflateNASA.html - and adjusted the 1991 price to today = $75,842. Todays price of $51,065 adjusts down to $33,017 in 1991. More technology for less money -- makes you wonder about the quality, engineering, etc. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff
Don't look at me - I've never heard of FIB! But it's probably unique to Indiana - and I avoid places like Indiana and Illinois. ;-) After 3 months (that seemed like years) in Ill. I decided it was time to get back to Va. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff Rick wrote: I live in Indiana. A FIB is ... well a derogatory term for you Illinois folks. If you wish, I will explain on banned. Where's LarryT? He's the one getting us in to letters that mean something. cc=cruise control ip=injection pump fib=fill in blank mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor staying engaged.
Could be a bad temp sensor (outside air most likely) or a bad PBCU. A stuck relay would run it all the time. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff
I grew up in Central Illinois. I know. Illinois is a nice place to be fromfar from. But the Cheeseheads having the FIBs is just like the people in Maine having the people from Mass and NY, right (as I recall from a trip to Higgins Beach in 1988)? Bob R On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:16 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Don't look at me - I've never heard of FIB! But it's probably unique to Indiana - and I avoid places like Indiana and Illinois. ;-) After 3 months (that seemed like years) in Ill. I decided it was time to get back to Va. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff Rick wrote: I live in Indiana. A FIB is ... well a derogatory term for you Illinois folks. If you wish, I will explain on banned. Where's LarryT? He's the one getting us in to letters that mean something. cc=cruise control ip=injection pump fib=fill in blank mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
Tiger Direct retail stores (such as those in NC) were re-branded CompUSA stores over the last year or so. They also own Circuit City's web site now, not sure how that is going to mix in. -Tim On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: You thought right Kaleb. Tiger Direct (IIRC) bought out most of the inventory and the name. Internet Store Front Only. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I thought they went out of business? LarryT wrote: Just got a sales notice saying CompUSA has Netbooks starting at $249. LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
My wife runs OSX10.5 on her Dell Mini 10v (oh, I mean, er... I do own retail, and have thought about getting a sticker of an apple...). She uses it for mail/youtube/browsing, and hasn't had any complaints except that it takes a while for Word to start. 10 16:9 screen, and she has a real monitor she can plug in if she needs something bigger, but I've never seen her use it. The Dell usually sits on her lap, which is a good distance for the screen size. SD stuff (which is all we use anyway) is fine, but we can't do NF on OSX. DVD would be external USB, but she's never asked me for it (it's downstairs with my computers). Dell was purchased from the refurb store in early August and is still running fine. Does have the extended battery and has made dozens if not hundreds of trips to/from school in her handbag. (As an aside, the same wife from comp.sys.laptops: http://www.techreplies.com/laptops-notebooks-17/long-lived-lap-top-76657/ ; after this we went through two ToughBooks in less than a year, and eventually got her on a desktop for a couple years. :) If I were in your shoes, I'd look hard at the netbooks with SSD drives and with an SD slot. Then you could set up the SD slot to boot first, install a backup (maybe even read-only) image on the SSD, and MIL could mail the 16GB SD back and forth. That way she wouldn't be out of the computer during shipping. I would also recommend Thinkpads or the Dell Latitude D6* or D8*s if you have to go the laptop route, but they do consume lots more power than the netbooks (advantage of the Atom). Best, -Tim On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I second Alex's recommendation. I have doubts that the Atom based machines are going to be good at presenting video, plus you need the external DVD drive if it isn't on-line media. IIRC, the Thinkpads are mostly commercial qualtity hardware, which will stand up longer. Anyone of you with a netbook play video on it? I find the screen too small (in the verticle dimension) for much other than web browsing - which is what they are designed for, so I shouldn't complain. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are those $299 netbook things any good? I love the two netbooks in my house (Dell Vostro and Asus Eee) for web browsing. They are as fast as anything else with a lightweight Linux distro (Mint, Puppy, etc.). Forget about serious typing with those little keyboards, though. For the original poster (Dave W.), I'm going to take the contrarian view from everyone else here and suggest a refurbished IBM Thinkpad. Beautiful big screen, plenty fast enough, will probably come with XP Pro installed but they're very Linux-friendly so it shouldn't be a hassle at all to put Ubuntu on it if you want. Most importantly they are built like tanks and so are more likely than any new $300 laptop to survive repeated trips through the mail. Alex -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad?
Last time I saw an intermittent problem like that was at my sister's house in rural Ohio. A mouse had made a nest in the wall and chewed the insulation off some romex. The GFCI kept the mouse from being electrocuted unfortunately. The thing tripped occasionally over the span of several weeks. I can't take credit for diagnosing that one. They called in a real electrician who narrowed down the line causing the problem, then he tore into the drywall and found the nest. I guess that's not uncommon out in the boonies. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, the GFCI receptacle probably wasn't bad, which may mean I've got a wiring problem. Does anyone know what kind of resistance I should be finding between Line and Neutral (black wire and white wire)? I had expected that a typical isolated circuit would have infinite resistance between Line and Neutral, but I measured values between 500K Ohms and 9M Ohms (my Fluke meter can read up to 40M Ohms). I bought and installed a new GFCI receptacle, original problem remained, so I started trouble shooting by isolating the circuits. Thought I'd narrowed it down to an exterior security light so I disconnected that, and the problem seemed to be fixed. An hour or two later, click the GFCI tripped and wouldn't reset. I unplugged all things that were plugged into the downstream receptacles, but the problem remained. This morning, the darn thing reset and stayed reset. Six-plus hours later and it is still reset. Unless there is a receptacle somewhere or some device wired in that I don't know about, all that remains now is wiring, downstream receptacles, and one wall switch for the outdoor security light. Obviously my T/S skills for house wiring aren't up to the task right now. I tested by measuring resistance between the line and the neutral wires, and from each of those to the ground wire. I isolated each line and neutral wire pair between receptacles prior to measurements, and I found high resistance but not infinite. By high resistance I mean over 500K ohms. One the branch circuit going to the upstairs bathroom receptacles, resistance was higher at over 9M Ohms. The other branch circuit (outside receptacle, outside fan (removed), outside security light (removed)) had resistance from Line to Neutral in the 500k Ohm range. One thing I did not do was disconnect all the ground wire connections at each box, because they're installed with crimped-on copper rings and I don't have the tool and rings to replace them and don't think that wire nuts would be in accordance with code. After thinking about this a bit, I'm wondering if leaving all the ground connections together was a mistake (as far as troubleshooting). I do have an ammeter, but hesitate to use it for working on live circuits. I almost made a mistake which could have been fatal yesterday when I failed to open the breaker before working on an open receptacle box. I touched the receptacle, heard that little voice telling me something was wrong, let go and picked up the tester. I realized I'd forgotten the breaker before I even tested the circuit and found power. Scared me good, which is much better than the alternative. After that I'd leave a nightlight plugged into the receptacle so if I saw the light on, I'd have the little voice and a bright light to keep my fingers away. -Max From: Max Dillon [mailto:meadedil...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? I think I've got a bad one. Several weeks ago I had my house power-washed, and the fan in the screened-in back porch got wet and shorted out and tripped the GFCI receptacle. Once I'd figured out the problem and removed the fan, leaving the wires capped with wire nuts and tucked safely into the box, the GFCI would stay reset. Days later it tripped again, but stayed reset after I pushed the button. We were gone from the house for about 10 days, and it had tripped again while we were gone and won't stay reset. Now I double checked the fan box to make sure the wires weren't shorting anywhere, but the GFCI still won't stay reset. If I reset it several times in a row, it will eventually stay reset for an hour or two. So, do these things age and go bad? This one is probably about 15 years old. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 318k miles '95 E300 274k miles project '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff
LarryT wrote: Don't look at me - I've never heard of FIB! No - it was you that did the letters to shorhand part names, that's all. fib - I think algore invented it with the internet. I'm sure I recall seeing it about 12 years ago. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor staying engaged.
I would suspect the evaporator temperature switch (I don't remember the location in the w123 chassis, but it will be near the evaporator case) It should cut out at 25F... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Michael Esh michael...@me.com wrote: AC Compressor is staying engaged even though the temps are in low 20's F. It does disengage when in economy mode or off button is pushed on CCU. Is this caused by a faulty switch or relay. Any suggestions or trouble shooting write-ups would be appreciated. thanks, Mike 1984 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Larry, The sticker for my 1990 300D 2.5 t says $39,9xx. I bought it used but was surprised at the sticker price-esp. when I ran the same kind of inflation analysis that OK Don did.. I think all the factors you identify might be contributors in part-but I personally think you have to look at Chrysler's influence too. Moving the brand from up market to mid market-at least the E class-and probably the C class too. And letting marketing not engineering make decisions. May be just a bias on my part, but you could partially test this hypothesis by checking other German luxury brand prices over the same period of time. Snook? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now Hi Don - As you noted, quality may have suffered, but there are many more things at work here that dictate inflation of 1 specific model. In addition to the reduced quality you mentioned are things like: improved electronics which also cost* much less do more, increases in productivity when building the cars through the use of robots, reduced overheads, changes in the materials used in the cars, building cars in non-union areas (the ML in Al.) - all of these and more go into the price escalation. While your calculation of the increased price was correct it's not accurate when looking at one particular product. Also, the E350 may seem to a grandson of the E300, there's been a lot of changes made to it - perhaps enough to consider the E350 no longer related to the E300. New bodies, new engines, new controls, new materials of construction, etc may make it no longer a straightforward comparison. But I'm glad to hear the price of the '91 E300 - it gives me a pretty good idea what my 91 300D cost - I'd guess at around $51k or $52K. * = consider the cost hard drives and memory - and last I heard there were over 2 dozen computers on a new MB!. Memory costs have been driven down so far that some companies have been pushed near bankruptcy. In the last ~20 years we've gone from having 10MB or 20MB hard drives to 500GB - 2TB hard drives for similar prices - or cheaper. (that's the technology increase I experienced in the corporate world at least) More ability in less space. Take Care - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now I got the '91 300E that my daughter and SiL bought last year today. Looking through the books, I found the original window sticker. This 124 has leaster seats, memory doors, adjustable stearing column, and head light wipers. It was $47,550 in Dec. of 1990. I just priced an E350, same color, leater seats, no other options at $51,065. Doesn't seem like enough of an inflation factor. I found the NASA inflation calculator - http://cost.jsc.nasa.gov/inflation/nasa/inflateNASA.html - and adjusted the 1991 price to today = $75,842. Todays price of $51,065 adjusts down to $33,017 in 1991. More technology for less money -- makes you wonder about the quality, engineering, etc. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann Antenna for Parts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Oh. I forgot about that. I don't supposed anyone would be up for a gzipped tarball, would they? We started shipping one of our packages (customers on all OSs) in .tar.bz2 format a few years ago. Originally someone came up with a Windows package to extract, but what with 7zip and the newer WinZips we haven't sent it out in a long time. Anyway I wouldn't mind a .tgz (or .tar for that matter, not sure what GZIP does to JPG), on or off list. :) Thanks, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Engine 102, 103, 104 displacement
I can only be amazed at the depth of knowledge some of you have. I only know about 102.980. OMG. But 2299 cc is 575 cc/cylinder, and 2800 cc is 467 cc, and the 103 is not just a 102 with 2 more cylinders. QED. Dunno about 104. Message: 14 Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:51:03 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine 102/3/4 displacement 103 standard is 3.0 and 2.6 litre. 104 in 3.2 and 2.8. no self respecting american would ever know anything about 102 On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Your brain is really farting now, the 103 never came out in 2.8 capacity (that's the 104) only in 2.6 and 3 liter form (unless modified by AMG to 3.2). The 102 came in 1.8, 2, 2.3 and 2.5 liter, however the 1.8 was a limited to Oz only thing and the 2.5 was a Cosworth special. So technically when you compare the 2 (1997cc) liter 102 and 3 (2960cc) liter 103 you can come up with a variation 6cc per cylinder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M103_engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M102_engine Hendrik Robert Bigham wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:05:39 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Robert Bigham edward_baldh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol or not? Idiot I wrote the following:. Engine 103 is not just Engine 102 with two more cylinders. 102 has 2,399 cc displacement = about 600 cc per cylinder. Engine 103 has about 2,800 cc displacement (they are rare around here, as is Engine 102) = about 467 cc per cylinder. And now for the real story: Engine 102 has 2299 cc, about 575 cc per cylinder. I think Engine 103 has 2800 cc, about 467 cc per cylinder. Any who were revising their reference materials can correct them now. Sorry. Brain fart. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
A cheap anything is a cheap anything... I carried a Dell Inspiron 8500 (I think it was an 8500 anyway) for 3 years. It went back and forth across the country and Atlantic Canada a few dozen times and never failed me except the time I broke a key trying to get some dirt out from under it. Dell replaced the keyboard under warranty. Then I got a new job and an HP nw8000 which served me well for 2 years (it was used when I got it) when I got my Dell Precision M90 that I've had for almost a year now, both were pretty much flawless but the HP has the equivalent (I've still got it on spares duty) of a million miles and makes some scary noises which is why I pushed to replace it. All three computers probably ran somewhere between $2500 and $3500 when they were new, these are high end workstation laptops, the M90 is faster than the dual processor 2.8ghz HP workstation I'm using right now. A $20 computer running an OS thats too new for it (like XP if it was built for 2000) will be slow and 1GB of RAM isn't enough anymore unless you're using a stripped down OS. -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 07:25:02 -0500 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop Message-ID: 926ab2c1f6b24fc19bbb5d2fc3bb5...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Maybe everyone else has had better luck with Dell than me. I have 2 Dells (my son bought one from a friend for $20) and both are the slowest 'puters I've ever seen. I have a gig of RAM in both and the HDs are almost empty except for the basics. I've had excellent service from an Acer Laptop BTW - I use my laptops a LOT and generally they start having warranty problems after 6-9 months. Small pieces breaking, monitor problems, usb ports stop working, CD drives die, - that kind of stuff, but not the Acer -- it worked full time for 3 years before the motherboard died. Because of the problems I generally buy the extended warranty (but never on other purchases) - and they always pay for themselves. I like the idea of a Netbook but the added cost to get a full featured Laptop is worth it to get all the extras - like CD drive, serial/parallel port, several USB drives, etc. BTW, Costco has Netbooks for around $300. Good luck Happy New Year! LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville?
We are going to be at the Gaylord Opryland resort, not sure if I will have a chance to leave there or not. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I used to live there. Make sure you hit Jack's BBQ on Broadway then go up the street to Tootsie's Orchid lounge for a 'toot'. I think the country music hall of fame still has one of Elvis' Cadillacs. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:10 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville? Im going to be in town for a week at the end of January for our annual managers meets. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
Speaking of E300's, I really need to get my 95 on the road. Geez I am slow. On this repairing the wiring with liquid electrical tape, tell me more about this. My SD needs a new wiring harness, all the insulation is falling off. This liquid tape idea sounds interesting. Max Dillon wrote: One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
EXACTLY. OK Don wrote: I got the '91 300E that my daughter and SiL bought last year today. Looking through the books, I found the original window sticker. This 124 has leaster seats, memory doors, adjustable stearing column, and head light wipers. It was $47,550 in Dec. of 1990. I just priced an E350, same color, leater seats, no other options at $51,065. Doesn't seem like enough of an inflation factor. I found the NASA inflation calculator - http://cost.jsc.nasa.gov/inflation/nasa/inflateNASA.html - and adjusted the 1991 price to today = $75,842. Todays price of $51,065 adjusts down to $33,017 in 1991. More technology for less money -- makes you wonder about the quality, engineering, etc. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed
Sounds like my experience... Its quite snowy here today, enough that snowmobiling too precedence over cars ;) I'll work from home Monday and do the deed... -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:58:05 -0600 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed Message-ID: 3485b4231001011458pf074230ucb4eb82c36414...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: Anyway its not a terrible job and the little hose was just about to really blow so I'm glad I got in there. Worst news of the day was that the replacement belt I'd bought (forever ago) for the alternator was too small, a good inch under the old one, so I couldn't possibly get it into place. The Beck-Arnley parts place said there were 2 belts - when I purchased a belt last year. The longer one was the one that fit - I think the difference was an inch. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed
Up here NAPA is the most expensive FLAPS around... Plus the belt on the car is missing a couple chunks which means I need a belt SOON. My 190D has to get out of service so it can donate its engine to the new 190D so the 240D has to get back into service. Plus the belt I have came from Rusty... Nothing against him, I've had it for probably 8 or 9 months and should have tried to put it on before now. -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:22:36 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed Message-ID: 20100101162236.0cb1add5.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:14:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Worst news of the day was that the replacement belt I'd bought (forever ago) for the alternator was too small, a good inch under the old one, so I couldn't possibly get it into place. The old one is pretty poor but I got the Car Quest (our FLAPS) number off it so I'll buy a replacement. That belt is probably 6 years old which is pretty good service I think. When I was in Texas, I found that buying belts from Rusty, including the shipping, was cheaper than buying belts at NAPA. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville?
Yes-that's like country Disneyland-in the summer there are water taxis to downtown. Gaylord owns a lot of the attractions downtown too--do try to get downtown if you can. Also if you can go to a show downtown at the old original Ryman auditorium.. There is a neat Bass outdoor shop in the shopryland mall right there-the Opryland hotel is really neat-gondolas, etc. might still have their spectacular Christmas lights up. WE used to have some listers from Nashville. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville? We are going to be at the Gaylord Opryland resort, not sure if I will have a chance to leave there or not. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I used to live there. Make sure you hit Jack's BBQ on Broadway then go up the street to Tootsie's Orchid lounge for a 'toot'. I think the country music hall of fame still has one of Elvis' Cadillacs. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:10 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville? Im going to be in town for a week at the end of January for our annual managers meets. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
I have to disagree guys (as one of those engineers that work on new mercedes). You're forgetting some very important influence on price: competition, and what the market wants. A base priced E class at $75,000 won't find too many buyers when the competition can offer a similar car for $45,000. Sure, you say, but for $75,000 they can make a much higher quality car. Perhaps, but the number people willing to buy such a car is very small. I'm afraid that Daimler won't be happy to change their complete product strategy to satisfy a small group of enthusiasts can't afford their new cars anyway! Chrysler didn't influence anything... don't forget who bought who. That was a one-way street of technology flow. And you might want to take a closer look at Mercedes newest cars, then compare them to Lexus, Audi, Porsche, etc. When you focus on the details, you realize they are still some of the best engineered cars on the road. Take it from me, I sit in these cars all day. Sure, the cars aren't like the used to be, and there were some dark days (W210, W220 in my opinion). Customer needs and demands change. Don't think for a minute that Daimler has lost their edge. They will continue to create excellent and competitive products for many years to come. Jaime On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: EXACTLY. OK Don wrote: I got the '91 300E that my daughter and SiL bought last year today. Looking through the books, I found the original window sticker. This 124 has leaster seats, memory doors, adjustable stearing column, and head light wipers. It was $47,550 in Dec. of 1990. I just priced an E350, same color, leater seats, no other options at $51,065. Doesn't seem like enough of an inflation factor. I found the NASA inflation calculator - http://cost.jsc.nasa.gov/inflation/nasa/inflateNASA.html - and adjusted the 1991 price to today = $75,842. Todays price of $51,065 adjusts down to $33,017 in 1991. More technology for less money -- makes you wonder about the quality, engineering, etc. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Good to hear, Jamie! I need MB to produce cars that will be worth purchasing when they're15 or more years old, like my 124s! On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I have to disagree guys (as one of those engineers that work on new mercedes). You're forgetting some very important influence on price: competition, and what the market wants. A base priced E class at $75,000 won't find too many buyers when the competition can offer a similar car for $45,000. Sure, you say, but for $75,000 they can make a much higher quality car. Perhaps, but the number people willing to buy such a car is very small. I'm afraid that Daimler won't be happy to change their complete product strategy to satisfy a small group of enthusiasts can't afford their new cars anyway! Chrysler didn't influence anything... don't forget who bought who. That was a one-way street of technology flow. And you might want to take a closer look at Mercedes newest cars, then compare them to Lexus, Audi, Porsche, etc. When you focus on the details, you realize they are still some of the best engineered cars on the road. Take it from me, I sit in these cars all day. Sure, the cars aren't like the used to be, and there were some dark days (W210, W220 in my opinion). Customer needs and demands change. Don't think for a minute that Daimler has lost their edge. They will continue to create excellent and competitive products for many years to come. Jaime -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct)
Not Mine etc. Original Message Subject: Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/1528676588.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 Date: 2009-12-29, 8:00AM Always parting 124 E class Mercedes 1986-1995 Parting '92 500E, '94 E420, 400E, 300E 2.6, 300TD '87 turbo diesel, '87 300D, '95 E320, '94 E500 Gas diesel Tons of parts Wheels from $25 each Seats from $50 each Wheels tires from $50 Hoods from $100 each Front bumpers from $150 Wagon hatch from $150 Rear Bumpers from $100 Dash asssembly from $100 single ot twin airbag Headlights from $75 Rear lights from $25 Fenders from $30 Doors from $50 Transmissions from $150+ Engines from $250 + Cylinder heads from $250+ A/c compressors from $100 Starters from $50 Motors, clips, wiring, radios etc etc * Location: Stamford, Ct * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/1528676588.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
Original Message Subject:1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html to contact the person who posted this. 1985 BMW 524TD Date: 2009-12-30, 11:53AM 1985 BMW 524TD FOR RESTORATION OR PARTS RARE CLASSIC DIESEL BMW FOR BMW COLLECTOR. MANY NEW PARTS, NEEDS ENGINE WORK. NEW TOYO PROXES H-RATED TIRES (TIRES COST $850). $650 OR BEST OFFER * Location: HARTFORD * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct)
92 and 94 500E wheels for $25? I wonder if he'd take $500 for the whole car? Where's Dave Spudboy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Ha, me too, Don! I'll have my eyes on a W211 wagon in a few years to replace my W124. Excellent car, rides like a real Mercedes! Jaime On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Good to hear, Jamie! I need MB to produce cars that will be worth purchasing when they're15 or more years old, like my 124s! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Up here NAPA is the most expensive FLAPS around... NAPA and CarQuest are more costly than the McParts stores (Advance, AutoZone, PepBoys, O'Reilly, etc.) but they still stock mostly decent quality stuff. The McParts stores parts, in my experience, are bottom of the line. If you're buying brand-name oil or coolant or something like that it really doesn't matter, but for things like belts, alternators, water pumps, brake parts, etc. you are going to get absolute minimum barely meets the specs quality. You'll notice they tend to be located in the same areas as Wal Mart, Big Lots, Dollar General, etc. and there's a reason for that. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct)
Thanks Fred, I am going to file this for 124 parts source. Dwight Star Motors and Shellfish Co. Shucking but no Jiving Dwight Giles, Jr Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct) Not Mine etc. Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 - $100 (Stamford, Ct) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/1528676588.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes Benz Parts '87 300D '92 500E '94 E420 '95 E320 Date: 2009-12-29, 8:00AM Always parting 124 E class Mercedes 1986-1995 Parting '92 500E, '94 E420, 400E, 300E 2.6, 300TD '87 turbo diesel, '87 300D, '95 E320, '94 E500 Gas diesel Tons of parts Wheels from $25 each Seats from $50 each Wheels tires from $50 Hoods from $100 each Front bumpers from $150 Wagon hatch from $150 Rear Bumpers from $100 Dash asssembly from $100 single ot twin airbag Headlights from $75 Rear lights from $25 Fenders from $30 Doors from $50 Transmissions from $150+ Engines from $250 + Cylinder heads from $250+ A/c compressors from $100 Starters from $50 Motors, clips, wiring, radios etc etc * Location: Stamford, Ct * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/1528676588.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
I buy cars in a similar way, but as I get older, I'm buying newer used models. I really appreciate the guys who guy new, and take that depreciation for me. I truly mean that, as they are the ones that are writing the big checks, and willing and able to take the depreciation, that gives companies the profits to develop and offer all the new inevations to us. I try to support the company by buying parts whenever I can. 6 Years down the road, I have my eye on a current S Class 550 4matic. Yummy!! Ed 300E 2010/1/2 OK Don okd...@gmail.com Good to hear, Jamie! I need MB to produce cars that will be worth purchasing when they're15 or more years old, like my 124s! On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I have to disagree guys (as one of those engineers that work on new mercedes). You're forgetting some very important influence on price: competition, and what the market wants. A base priced E class at $75,000 won't find too many buyers when the competition can offer a similar car for $45,000. Sure, you say, but for $75,000 they can make a much higher quality car. Perhaps, but the number people willing to buy such a car is very small. I'm afraid that Daimler won't be happy to change their complete product strategy to satisfy a small group of enthusiasts can't afford their new cars anyway! Chrysler didn't influence anything... don't forget who bought who. That was a one-way street of technology flow. And you might want to take a closer look at Mercedes newest cars, then compare them to Lexus, Audi, Porsche, etc. When you focus on the details, you realize they are still some of the best engineered cars on the road. Take it from me, I sit in these cars all day. Sure, the cars aren't like the used to be, and there were some dark days (W210, W220 in my opinion). Customer needs and demands change. Don't think for a minute that Daimler has lost their edge. They will continue to create excellent and competitive products for many years to come. Jaime -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Yes a friend of mine just bought a W211 sedan-he said it does drive like a real MB-he had several gas and diesel 124's. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now Ha, me too, Don! I'll have my eyes on a W211 wagon in a few years to replace my W124. Excellent car, rides like a real Mercedes! Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now
Dwight said And letting marketing not engineering make decisions That seems to be a common disease that has afflicted car makers in particular during the last 20 years or so. But the bean counters attacked all kinds of engineered manufactured goods ... with similar results. And you're right about other factors, and about Chrysler too - forgot about that - I know I'm biased - but IMO the early 90's W-124 are one of the better cars produced by MB both the Gas and diesel models seem pretty robust and well engineered. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now Larry, The sticker for my 1990 300D 2.5 t says $39,9xx. I bought it used but was surprised at the sticker price-esp. when I ran the same kind of inflation analysis that OK Don did.. I think all the factors you identify might be contributors in part-but I personally think you have to look at Chrysler's influence too. Moving the brand from up market to mid market-at least the E class-and probably the C class too. And letting marketing not engineering make decisions. May be just a bias on my part, but you could partially test this hypothesis by checking other German luxury brand prices over the same period of time. Snook? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now Hi Don - As you noted, quality may have suffered, but there are many more things at work here that dictate inflation of 1 specific model. In addition to the reduced quality you mentioned are things like: improved electronics which also cost* much less do more, increases in productivity when building the cars through the use of robots, reduced overheads, changes in the materials used in the cars, building cars in non-union areas (the ML in Al.) - all of these and more go into the price escalation. While your calculation of the increased price was correct it's not accurate when looking at one particular product. Also, the E350 may seem to a grandson of the E300, there's been a lot of changes made to it - perhaps enough to consider the E350 no longer related to the E300. New bodies, new engines, new controls, new materials of construction, etc may make it no longer a straightforward comparison. But I'm glad to hear the price of the '91 E300 - it gives me a pretty good idea what my 91 300D cost - I'd guess at around $51k or $52K. * = consider the cost hard drives and memory - and last I heard there were over 2 dozen computers on a new MB!. Memory costs have been driven down so far that some companies have been pushed near bankruptcy. In the last ~20 years we've gone from having 10MB or 20MB hard drives to 500GB - 2TB hard drives for similar prices - or cheaper. (that's the technology increase I experienced in the corporate world at least) More ability in less space. Take Care - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MB prices, then and now I got the '91 300E that my daughter and SiL bought last year today. Looking through the books, I found the original window sticker. This 124 has leaster seats, memory doors, adjustable stearing column, and head light wipers. It was $47,550 in Dec. of 1990. I just priced an E350, same color, leater seats, no other options at $51,065. Doesn't seem like enough of an inflation factor. I found the NASA inflation calculator - http://cost.jsc.nasa.gov/inflation/nasa/inflateNASA.html - and adjusted the 1991 price to today = $75,842. Todays price of $51,065 adjusts down to $33,017 in 1991. More technology for less money -- makes you wonder about the quality, engineering, etc. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann Antenna for Parts
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:39:26 -0500 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: We started shipping one of our packages (customers on all OSs) in .tar.bz2 format a few years ago. Originally someone came up with a Windows package to extract, but what with 7zip and the newer WinZips we haven't sent it out in a long time. Anyway I wouldn't mind a .tgz (or .tar for that matter, not sure what GZIP does to JPG), on or off list. :) The use of gzip drops the archive size from 5.2 to 5.1 MB. Here is the gzipped tar archive. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Hirschmann.Antenna.tgz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 5282011 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100102/e99ee357/attachment.tgz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
Mark, Thanks for that input, as this problem may be contributing to the low power condition which seems to include lack of combustion in several cylinders. According to the CarFax in the maintenance part of the report, a wiring harness was replaced, and there I went assuming that meant the engine wiring harness - maybe it was replaced with NOS which has now also deteriorated? I think more likely the CarFax report is wrong. In several places I see degraded wire isulation. I just may have to replace the whole thing... :( -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of L Mark Finch Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report Have you considered replacing the biodegradable wiring harness instead of repairing it? It's an expensive part, but a funky one can cause a bunch of problems. In my car's case, three cylinders quit firing. --mf On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
I get it at the local Lowes, comes in a small can with applicator brush built into the top. The first can I had was rather runny stuff and tended to really flow well but left a good coating, which was impossible to clean off but remained flexible. This new can I just bought is really thick and stays where you put it. Dries fairly quick. I don't know how well it will stand up under the hood of a car, but it sure is an easy way to repair damaged insulation on wiring. It's one of those products that's so cool you just have to buy it when you see it. I'm going to give it a try, but I'll start budgeting for a new harness... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report Speaking of E300's, I really need to get my 95 on the road. Geez I am slow. On this repairing the wiring with liquid electrical tape, tell me more about this. My SD needs a new wiring harness, all the insulation is falling off. This liquid tape idea sounds interesting. Max Dillon wrote: One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 03:20:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
Run away from this as if your hair was on fire. Dan --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:19 PM Original Message Subject: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html to contact the person who posted this. 1985 BMW 524TD Date: 2009-12-30, 11:53AM 1985 BMW 524TD FOR RESTORATION OR PARTS RARE CLASSIC DIESEL BMW FOR BMW COLLECTOR. MANY NEW PARTS, NEEDS ENGINE WORK. NEW TOYO PROXES H-RATED TIRES (TIRES COST $850). $650 OR BEST OFFER * Location: HARTFORD * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad?
Dave, I'm convinced that water was somewhere that the GFCI didn't like, due to the power washing. I'm going on 36 hours without a trip event now, but this is a new GFCI receptacle. I'm tempted to put the old back in and see what it does. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? Last time I saw an intermittent problem like that was at my sister's house in rural Ohio. A mouse had made a nest in the wall and chewed the insulation off some romex. The GFCI kept the mouse from being electrocuted unfortunately. The thing tripped occasionally over the span of several weeks. I can't take credit for diagnosing that one. They called in a real electrician who narrowed down the line causing the problem, then he tore into the drywall and found the nest. I guess that's not uncommon out in the boonies. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, the GFCI receptacle probably wasn't bad, which may mean I've got a wiring problem. Does anyone know what kind of resistance I should be finding between Line and Neutral (black wire and white wire)? I had expected that a typical isolated circuit would have infinite resistance between Line and Neutral, but I measured values between 500K Ohms and 9M Ohms (my Fluke meter can read up to 40M Ohms). I bought and installed a new GFCI receptacle, original problem remained, so I started trouble shooting by isolating the circuits. Thought I'd narrowed it down to an exterior security light so I disconnected that, and the problem seemed to be fixed. An hour or two later, click the GFCI tripped and wouldn't reset. I unplugged all things that were plugged into the downstream receptacles, but the problem remained. This morning, the darn thing reset and stayed reset. Six-plus hours later and it is still reset. Unless there is a receptacle somewhere or some device wired in that I don't know about, all that remains now is wiring, downstream receptacles, and one wall switch for the outdoor security light. Obviously my T/S skills for house wiring aren't up to the task right now. I tested by measuring resistance between the line and the neutral wires, and from each of those to the ground wire. I isolated each line and neutral wire pair between receptacles prior to measurements, and I found high resistance but not infinite. By high resistance I mean over 500K ohms. One the branch circuit going to the upstairs bathroom receptacles, resistance was higher at over 9M Ohms. The other branch circuit (outside receptacle, outside fan (removed), outside security light (removed)) had resistance from Line to Neutral in the 500k Ohm range. One thing I did not do was disconnect all the ground wire connections at each box, because they're installed with crimped-on copper rings and I don't have the tool and rings to replace them and don't think that wire nuts would be in accordance with code. After thinking about this a bit, I'm wondering if leaving all the ground connections together was a mistake (as far as troubleshooting). I do have an ammeter, but hesitate to use it for working on live circuits. I almost made a mistake which could have been fatal yesterday when I failed to open the breaker before working on an open receptacle box. I touched the receptacle, heard that little voice telling me something was wrong, let go and picked up the tester. I realized I'd forgotten the breaker before I even tested the circuit and found power. Scared me good, which is much better than the alternative. After that I'd leave a nightlight plugged into the receptacle so if I saw the light on, I'd have the little voice and a bright light to keep my fingers away. -Max From: Max Dillon [mailto:meadedil...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? I think I've got a bad one. Several weeks ago I had my house power-washed, and the fan in the screened-in back porch got wet and shorted out and tripped the GFCI receptacle. Once I'd figured out the problem and removed the fan, leaving the wires capped with wire nuts and tucked safely into the box, the GFCI would stay reset. Days later it tripped again, but stayed reset after I pushed the button. We were gone from the house for about 10 days, and it had tripped again while we were gone and won't stay reset. Now I double checked the fan box to make sure the wires weren't shorting anywhere, but the GFCI still won't stay reset. If I reset it several times in a row, it will eventually stay reset for an hour or two. So, do these things age and go bad? This one is probably about 15 years old. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston
Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville?
Isn't it Second Ave thats on the backside of the Ryman? The one they call Broadway of Country Music... I spent a night there one time bar hopping. Heard an amazing Blues group, I've got their cd around somewhere. -Curt Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:00:11 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville? Message-ID: 006e01ca8bdd$cf784740$6e68d5...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes-that's like country Disneyland-in the summer there are water taxis to downtown. Gaylord owns a lot of the attractions downtown too--do try to get downtown if you can. Also if you can go to a show downtown at the old original Ryman auditorium.. There is a neat Bass outdoor shop in the shopryland mall right there-the Opryland hotel is really neat-gondolas, etc. might still have their spectacular Christmas lights up. WE used to have some listers from Nashville. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed
I really like our local Car Quest, the guys know their stuff, the prices are reasonably competitive too. I bought G05 there last week for $12/gal which considering Prestone 50/50 premix is $6.50 at McParts I figured was a good deal. The best part about our Car Quest is that I can walk there and they'll let me bring my dog inside... -Curt Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:52:15 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant leak fixed Message-ID: m1k4w0cgz4@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Up here NAPA is the most expensive FLAPS around... NAPA and CarQuest are more costly than the McParts stores (Advance, AutoZone, PepBoys, O'Reilly, etc.) but they still stock mostly decent quality stuff. The McParts stores parts, in my experience, are bottom of the line. If you're buying brand-name oil or coolant or something like that it really doesn't matter, but for things like belts, alternators, water pumps, brake parts, etc. you are going to get absolute minimum barely meets the specs quality. You'll notice they tend to be located in the same areas as Wal Mart, Big Lots, Dollar General, etc. and there's a reason for that. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff
FIB was a term in use by the '80's in the Wisconsin area that I grew up, and I think it existed after the first summer which combined car traffic from Illinois and Wisconsin road construction. A fellow from the Lincoln state asked me why all the trees in Illinois pointed toward Wisconsin. I took the bait, and the punch line was Because WI sucks. My reply: No, Illinois b***s. We had a great time giving each other hell after that. Now I'm a Yankee living in the south. Folk here are too polite to tell me to my face what they think of us Yankees, but there are a few bumper stickers I enjoy like If they call it 'Tourist Season', how come we can't shoot them? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 318k miles '95 E300 274k miles project '73 Balboa 20 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Milk and Stuff LarryT wrote: Don't look at me - I've never heard of FIB! No - it was you that did the letters to shorhand part names, that's all. fib - I think algore invented it with the internet. I'm sure I recall seeing it about 12 years ago. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report
Its great stuff for repairing vinyl, I've used it on a couple motorcycle and snowmobile seats. Of course its black so its a ghetto repair if you don't have a black seat... -Curt Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:00:28 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report Message-ID: 000401ca8bff$611f6810$235e38...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I get it at the local Lowes, comes in a small can with applicator brush built into the top. The first can I had was rather runny stuff and tended to really flow well but left a good coating, which was impossible to clean off but remained flexible. This new can I just bought is really thick and stays where you put it. Dries fairly quick. I don't know how well it will stand up under the hood of a car, but it sure is an easy way to repair damaged insulation on wiring. It's one of those products that's so cool you just have to buy it when you see it. I'm going to give it a try, but I'll start budgeting for a new harness... -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine 102, 103, 104, 616, 617 displacement
As I stated earlier, my reference is in regard to engine design and not capacity. The same goes for the OM616 and OM617, same design but different capacities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM616 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM617_engine As you can see MB altered the capacity of thoses motors during their life cycle. Most people will agree that a 617 is a 616 with an extra cylinder but you may argue that because the cc/cylinder does not add up exactly they are not the same, except for an extra cylinder. Far as I know the 104 is a 103 block with a DOHC head, so I would not say they are the same. Hendrik Robert Bigham wrote: I can only be amazed at the depth of knowledge some of you have. I only know about 102.980. OMG. But 2299 cc is 575 cc/cylinder, and 2800 cc is 467 cc, and the 103 is not just a 102 with 2 more cylinders. QED. Dunno about 104. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bags
Does optional vs standard make a difference? Rear side bags are an option on the 2010 E 350 About $700 (a guess) is the difference. My W203 2001 C320 had four door bags and curtain bags as standard. TeleAid was also standard. For the W204 rear bags became an option as did TeleAid. I skipped both. The side bags are now in the side of the front seat and fire forward. In some markets the driver gets a knee bag but not here. I would think the W212 arrangement would be the same. Crash tests (barrier and side impact) are on YouTube. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:01:57 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. http://www.tools-plus.com/eklind-15524.html Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 254 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
My advice is that if you are working on MB cars you need an Allen/torx key set. I recently purchased a set like this for AU$300 to put in my work truck. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-quality-socket-set-for-professionals-from-Germany_W0QQitemZ270507214914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Hand_Tools?hash=item3efb7c8842 BGS technic are a German based tool distributor http://www.bgstechnic.de/index.php?lang=en that have been in business for quite some time. They offer a large range of tools (including some we are very familiar with) in several grades, from home handyman to pro+. That set comes under the pro+ line and I am very impressed with them. How much would a set like that cost if it was snap on? 1000's? I do believe the tools are made in Asia somewhere but you would not know from the feel and fit of them. That set has a super lock feature on the sockets which means they grip the sides rather than the edges of nuts and bolts. On page 8 is a description http://download.bgstechnic.com/catalog_en.pdf Hendrik who likes good tools at a good price Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Max wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. I don't think anything at Harbor is USA - but I don't see Harbor anywhere. Doesn't sears have that tool? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad?
Have not really been following this thread, but is there a motor of any kind on the circuit? Motors can cause GFCIs to trip when they shut off. Allan Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: Dave, I'm convinced that water was somewhere that the GFCI didn't like, due to the power washing. I'm going on 36 hours without a trip event now, but this is a new GFCI receptacle. I'm tempted to put the old back in and see what it does. -Max -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Yes, I bought mine set at Sears. I've also been known to cut off the long end of an appropriately sized Allen wrench, and use it with the same sized socket. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Max wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. I don't think anything at Harbor is USA - but I don't see Harbor anywhere. Doesn't sears have that tool? mao -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. It's way across town, and I often forget about them when I'm looking for tools. I was time-limited today, as I had to drive my wife's car and she also had places to go and people to see, so I'll use that as my excuse for now to justify a future trip. I still need to pick up a fuel pressure gauge set for my wife's car. Need to get this second Benz up and running so I can spend more time at HF -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Buy a half inch drive set, Sears will have one. Snap-On will too, but they are much more expensive. I don't know of a 3/8 drive set that goes that big. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Thanks Craig, if HF doesn't have a suitable tool I may go this route. Allen wrenches are good for taking them apart, but putting together to a particular torque value requires a socket that'll fit my 1/2 inch torque wrench. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:01:57 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Harbor freight sells them, as does Autozone. http://www.tools-plus.com/eklind-15524.html Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report So, you no longer need the 12mm wrench? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My '95 E300 project, progress report One does not need the special tool assembly cage or assembly sleeve that is called for in the service manual. Also, removing the camshaft gear is also not necessary (at least on my engine - haven't checked the chain stretch yet so maybe I have a really looong chain helping out here). I was out in the garage working on my '87 replacing the belt tensioner, when that project came to a sudden halt due to a tool shortage (don't own a 12mm hex key). Decided to mess around with the '95 as I'd gotten some marking paint and I thought it was a good time to remove the camshaft gear. Pulled the valve cover and marked the gear and chain position, then while waiting for that to dry I started pulling on the timing chain at the IP timer to see how necessary the special tool was. To my surprise, after just a few minutes of fiddling the IP timer came right out. Installed the new one, and then re-installed the injection pump. Still need to hook up all the injection pump connections, but she's back in place. So, spent a few satisfying hours in the garage, and now I have a good excuse to go tool shopping tomorrow. Remaining work on the '95: Hook up all the injection pump connections Repair deteriorating wire insulation in the engine bay (liquid electrical tape) Remove old fuel return line bits from injector nipples, install new lines Diagnose/repair the engine missing and low power (new fuel filters first, then maybe injectors or delivery valves are the culprits). Re-install all the intake and crank-case ventilation piping/gaskets -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 254 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Nice tools are fantastic to have, and I go that route for tools that I use very frequently. This tool, on the other hand, will maybe only be used once or twice more in my garage, so I can't justify spending too much $ on it. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report My advice is that if you are working on MB cars you need an Allen/torx key set. I recently purchased a set like this for AU$300 to put in my work truck. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/High-quality-socket-set-for-professionals-from-German y_W0QQitemZ270507214914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Hand_Tools?hash=item3efb7c8842 BGS technic are a German based tool distributor http://www.bgstechnic.de/index.php?lang=en that have been in business for quite some time. They offer a large range of tools (including some we are very familiar with) in several grades, from home handyman to pro+. That set comes under the pro+ line and I am very impressed with them. How much would a set like that cost if it was snap on? 1000's? I do believe the tools are made in Asia somewhere but you would not know from the feel and fit of them. That set has a super lock feature on the sockets which means they grip the sides rather than the edges of nuts and bolts. On page 8 is a description http://download.bgstechnic.com/catalog_en.pdf Hendrik who likes good tools at a good price Max Dillon wrote: I needed a 12mm hex key to remove the tensioner on my '87 wagon. My neighbor was home this afternoon and he loaned me his, but I would like to purchase one for my tool box. Today I visited almost every store that sells tools in my town, and came up completely empty. My back-up plan was to grind down a 1/2 inch hex to make a 12mm, but that wouldn't have been too pretty I'll bet. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Parts on the move
Here's Kleb bringing home another parts donor car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AcqIG0fSAfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190e dash vents
that won't close. Which is kinda a problem when it's 20 deg F outside. The levers that are supposed to close them do nothing. Any suggestions for repair without removing the dash? Does anyone have a scan of the parts book that will show me the relevant pieces? As always, thanks in advance. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Give him a sedagive???
I gotta laugh about this CL ad. Not only is the title screwed up, but the description is good, too. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bfs/1534689731.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
I agree with Alex on the Thinkpad. The T series in particular are the Mercedes of the laptop world. All the hardware manuals are available online, and they are fairly simple to troubleshoot and repair. Lenovo support is very good, and there are lots of good diagnostic tools available. Anything from a T23 and newer is quite usable with XP or Linux. Greg using a T40 with 2gb RAM and a 1.7 GHz Pentium M, XP Pro -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are those $299 netbook things any good? I love the two netbooks in my house (Dell Vostro and Asus Eee) for web browsing. They are as fast as anything else with a lightweight Linux distro (Mint, Puppy, etc.). Forget about serious typing with those little keyboards, though. For the original poster (Dave W.), I'm going to take the contrarian view from everyone else here and suggest a refurbished IBM Thinkpad. Beautiful big screen, plenty fast enough, will probably come with XP Pro installed but they're very Linux-friendly so it shouldn't be a hassle at all to put Ubuntu on it if you want. Most importantly they are built like tanks and so are more likely than any new $300 laptop to survive repeated trips through the mail. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
Hi Fred, This guy has had this up for sale for quite a while. Needs engine work = needs head gasket. The BMW diesel was notorious for that. How does that saying go? there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes except a cheap BMW. :) Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 1 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:19:02 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Message-ID: 4b3fb846.5020...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Original Message Subject: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1530454605.html to contact the person who posted this. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12mm hex for OM603 tensioner -- was My '95 E300 project, progress report
Max Dillon wrote: Autozone here doesn't carry them, but I didn't try the Harbor Freight. Autozone doesn't have a 3pc 1/2 drive set for about $10? That's where I got mine (7 1/2 years ago). I think it's 12mm, 14mm, and 17mm. Wasn't Curt looking for one in the last year or two? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody live around Nashville?
go to the nations and enjoy the gummo experience! On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Im going to be in town for a week at the end of January for our annual managers meets. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190e dash vents
Jim, Go to Rusty's online site, buymbparts.biz and you can see some of it. Harry - Original Message - From: Jim Arnott j...@wetwesties.org To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] 190e dash vents that won't close. Which is kinda a problem when it's 20 deg F outside. The levers that are supposed to close them do nothing. Any suggestions for repair without removing the dash? Does anyone have a scan of the parts book that will show me the relevant pieces? As always, thanks in advance. Jim Arnott Union, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Give him a sedagive???
Jeez. Westside On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I gotta laugh about this CL ad. Not only is the title screwed up, but the description is good, too. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bfs/1534689731.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Give him a sedagive???
Westside sounds about right, is what I meant. This little Dell is pretty neat, but it's a little trigger-happy. Mark Finch Indianapolis On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:11 PM, L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.comwrote: Jeez. Westside On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I gotta laugh about this CL ad. Not only is the title screwed up, but the description is good, too. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bfs/1534689731.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts on the move
Hey Molly, I feel a little pull to the right; I'll have to get that alignment checked tomorrow. Ed 300E 2010/1/2 relng...@aol.com Here's Kleb bringing home another parts donor car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AcqIG0fSAfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad?
I had similar problem that turned out to be water in an exterior light fixture from when painters power-washed the siding. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 18:44 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? Dave, I'm convinced that water was somewhere that the GFCI didn't like, due to the power washing. I'm going on 36 hours without a trip event now, but this is a new GFCI receptacle. I'm tempted to put the old back in and see what it does. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? Last time I saw an intermittent problem like that was at my sister's house in rural Ohio. A mouse had made a nest in the wall and chewed the insulation off some romex. The GFCI kept the mouse from being electrocuted unfortunately. The thing tripped occasionally over the span of several weeks. I can't take credit for diagnosing that one. They called in a real electrician who narrowed down the line causing the problem, then he tore into the drywall and found the nest. I guess that's not uncommon out in the boonies. -Dave Walton On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, the GFCI receptacle probably wasn't bad, which may mean I've got a wiring problem. Does anyone know what kind of resistance I should be finding between Line and Neutral (black wire and white wire)? I had expected that a typical isolated circuit would have infinite resistance between Line and Neutral, but I measured values between 500K Ohms and 9M Ohms (my Fluke meter can read up to 40M Ohms). I bought and installed a new GFCI receptacle, original problem remained, so I started trouble shooting by isolating the circuits. Thought I'd narrowed it down to an exterior security light so I disconnected that, and the problem seemed to be fixed. An hour or two later, click the GFCI tripped and wouldn't reset. I unplugged all things that were plugged into the downstream receptacles, but the problem remained. This morning, the darn thing reset and stayed reset. Six-plus hours later and it is still reset. Unless there is a receptacle somewhere or some device wired in that I don't know about, all that remains now is wiring, downstream receptacles, and one wall switch for the outdoor security light. Obviously my T/S skills for house wiring aren't up to the task right now. I tested by measuring resistance between the line and the neutral wires, and from each of those to the ground wire. I isolated each line and neutral wire pair between receptacles prior to measurements, and I found high resistance but not infinite. By high resistance I mean over 500K ohms. One the branch circuit going to the upstairs bathroom receptacles, resistance was higher at over 9M Ohms. The other branch circuit (outside receptacle, outside fan (removed), outside security light (removed)) had resistance from Line to Neutral in the 500k Ohm range. One thing I did not do was disconnect all the ground wire connections at each box, because they're installed with crimped-on copper rings and I don't have the tool and rings to replace them and don't think that wire nuts would be in accordance with code. After thinking about this a bit, I'm wondering if leaving all the ground connections together was a mistake (as far as troubleshooting). I do have an ammeter, but hesitate to use it for working on live circuits. I almost made a mistake which could have been fatal yesterday when I failed to open the breaker before working on an open receptacle box. I touched the receptacle, heard that little voice telling me something was wrong, let go and picked up the tester. I realized I'd forgotten the breaker before I even tested the circuit and found power. Scared me good, which is much better than the alternative. After that I'd leave a nightlight plugged into the receptacle so if I saw the light on, I'd have the little voice and a bright light to keep my fingers away. -Max From: Max Dillon [mailto:meadedil...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad? I think I've got a bad one. Several weeks ago I had my house power-washed, and the fan in the screened-in back porch got wet and shorted out and tripped the GFCI receptacle. Once I'd figured out the problem and removed the fan, leaving the wires capped with wire nuts and tucked safely into the box, the GFCI would stay reset. Days later it tripped again, but stayed reset after I pushed the button. We were gone from the house for about 10 days, and it had tripped again while we were
Re: [MBZ] 190e dash vents
Good plan. Looks like the center vents just snap in. http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hires/W01331632931OES.JPG?width=300height=300 Pop 'em out and maybe I can see what's going on. This looks a little more challenging: http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hires/W01331623053OES.JPG?width=300height=300 Wonder how it comes loose? Thanks for the suggestion. Jim On Jan 2, 2010, at 7:34 PM, harry watkins wrote: Jim, Go to Rusty's online site, buymbparts.biz and you can see some of it. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
I'll agree with the thinkpad comment, but I'll caveat it by saying to go with (I think) a T4x or newer; all T30's and many of the T2x's were prone to DIMM slot failures. Btw, if you do not mind the weight, the T6x's have a magnesium basket around the BACK of the LCD (not many laptops have any protection for the LCD backs...) which prevents breakage with the lid closed. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 2, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I agree with Alex on the Thinkpad. The T series in particular are the Mercedes of the laptop world. All the hardware manuals are available online, and they are fairly simple to troubleshoot and repair. Lenovo support is very good, and there are lots of good diagnostic tools available. Anything from a T23 and newer is quite usable with XP or Linux. Greg using a T40 with 2gb RAM and a 1.7 GHz Pentium M, XP Pro -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are those $299 netbook things any good? I love the two netbooks in my house (Dell Vostro and Asus Eee) for web browsing. They are as fast as anything else with a lightweight Linux distro (Mint, Puppy, etc.). Forget about serious typing with those little keyboards, though. For the original poster (Dave W.), I'm going to take the contrarian view from everyone else here and suggest a refurbished IBM Thinkpad. Beautiful big screen, plenty fast enough, will probably come with XP Pro installed but they're very Linux-friendly so it shouldn't be a hassle at all to put Ubuntu on it if you want. Most importantly they are built like tanks and so are more likely than any new $300 laptop to survive repeated trips through the mail. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1985 BMW 524TD - $650 (HARTFORD)
Dan, Tom, et al. This was a sly invitation for Mr Snook to dive into another BMW and a diesel at that! Nah! He's too smart for that. Run away! Run away! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/2/2010 9:59 PM, tom tomscat wrote: Hi Fred, This guy has had this up for sale for quite a while. Needs engine work = needs head gasket. The BMW diesel was notorious for that. How does that saying go? there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes except a cheap BM :) Tom Schuch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop
That's probably true - but the Dells I have have an OS office suite installed little else - it's pretty much how it was used by the PO. One was owned by a corp who gave the employees their machines and it only has what they put on it. What you said is no doubt true, but that doesn't apply in this case. I've spent some time with her trying to crack the bios password she told me about the way it was used - mostly for spreadsheets and docs. I ended up inheriting another Dell just like the 1st it was very similar - same model iirc. IIRC they're running W2000 or NT. Maybe W2000 or NT don't run well w/Dells? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:03 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop A cheap anything is a cheap anything... I carried a Dell Inspiron 8500 (I think it was an 8500 anyway) for 3 years. It went back and forth across the country and Atlantic Canada a few dozen times and never failed me except the time I broke a key trying to get some dirt out from under it. Dell replaced the keyboard under warranty. Then I got a new job and an HP nw8000 which served me well for 2 years (it was used when I got it) when I got my Dell Precision M90 that I've had for almost a year now, both were pretty much flawless but the HP has the equivalent (I've still got it on spares duty) of a million miles and makes some scary noises which is why I pushed to replace it. All three computers probably ran somewhere between $2500 and $3500 when they were new, these are high end workstation laptops, the M90 is faster than the dual processor 2.8ghz HP workstation I'm using right now. A $20 computer running an OS thats too new for it (like XP if it was built for 2000) will be slow and 1GB of RAM isn't enough anymore unless you're using a stripped down OS. -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 07:25:02 -0500 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need help selecting Windows laptop Message-ID: 926ab2c1f6b24fc19bbb5d2fc3bb5...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Maybe everyone else has had better luck with Dell than me. I have 2 Dells (my son bought one from a friend for $20) and both are the slowest 'puters I've ever seen. I have a gig of RAM in both and the HDs are almost empty except for the basics. I've had excellent service from an Acer Laptop BTW - I use my laptops a LOT and generally they start having warranty problems after 6-9 months. Small pieces breaking, monitor problems, usb ports stop working, CD drives die, - that kind of stuff, but not the Acer -- it worked full time for 3 years before the motherboard died. Because of the problems I generally buy the extended warranty (but never on other purchases) - and they always pay for themselves. I like the idea of a Netbook but the added cost to get a full featured Laptop is worth it to get all the extras - like CD drive, serial/parallel port, several USB drives, etc. BTW, Costco has Netbooks for around $300. Good luck Happy New Year! LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 PSP leak
I heard somewhere that there is a cover plate on the backside of the pump with an o-ring seal. Is this a common issue? That's what was wrong on our 560 SEL. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bring the Mog Mr. Cathey
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1526703992.html Looks like an SD in need of a home. Indeed. 617's are fairly bulletproof, maybe it's not too dead...for the right buyer, which is not I! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
