Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Right O , just finished up a session with Dan G aka mao, I tell ya that bloke 
can
talk the leg off a horse, took us out to Gene  Jude's for a wicked hot dog, in
fact I got one for a midnight snack and am eating it now, then drove us down to 
a
top bottle shop for some wicked brews and came up for a beer and chat which was
real fun (seeing as meeting dinky di US people is one of my main aims), although
I don't think he understood a word I said, me and Fay speaking Oz and Dan
speaking American but we had fun. Unfortunatley I don't realize how fast I talk
and it must be hard for Americans to understand me, Fay is better at slowing
down. Yes we do speak English but it seems Oz English is spoken quicker than US
English, or it may be the accent, who knows?

Hendrik
who is too inebriated to think of a witisicm (you do the spell check)

On Sat Jun  5 18:09 , 'Kevin Kraly' kr...@comcast.net sent:

Man, I wish that there were In-N-Out Burger's up here in the Northwet!  I 
used to eat them quite often while growing up in Southern California. 
That's what a hamburger's all about!

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Fmiser
 Hendrik and Fay wrote:

 Unfortunatley I don't
 realize how fast I talk and it must be hard for Americans to
 understand me, Fay is better at slowing down. Yes we do speak
 English but it seems Oz English is spoken quicker than US
 English, or it may be the accent, who knows?

It's not that Oz English is faster, just that folks who are
unaccustomed to hearing it have to use more brain processing to
understand - and so it _feel_ fast to them.

This is true of any unfamiliar accent, not just Oz.

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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Kraly wrote:

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon who wishes he still had that '99 Ford with no 
truck payments and it would still have less than 100K miles


When was that, two Dodges and a Sprinter ago?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] one for wilton?

2010-06-06 Thread Ed Booher
I seriously doubt those rims are properly hub centric. As such, would that
mean that the spindles have been damaged due to the improper rims?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1771692049.html

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread Ed Booher
It's been a while since I've had enough free time to really get online and
ask questions. So this is going back quite a ways to when I was asking about
my leaking trunk. I did eventually find the extremely clogged drains on both
sides of the rear wheel wells and free them of quite a lot of gunk. With the
ability for the car to now properly drain I was able to find *fresh* water
coming in to the trunk.

On both sides, apparently some where above the hump of the wheel well, water
is able to enter and then run down the wheel wells in twin streams, one on
other side, into the pockets where the drains are located. However I am
unsure where the water actually starts. Since it is coming from both sides
apparently equally, would this be more likely to be a shot rear window seal,
or something to do with the sunroof?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] one for wilton?

2010-06-06 Thread WILTON

Anybody else notice the custom wires into the driver's door?

Wilton

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I seriously doubt those rims are properly hub centric. As such, would that
mean that the spindles have been damaged due to the improper rims?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu 
wrote:



http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1771692049.html

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread WILTON

I vote rear window.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal



It's been a while since I've had enough free time to really get online and
ask questions. So this is going back quite a ways to when I was asking 
about
my leaking trunk. I did eventually find the extremely clogged drains on 
both
sides of the rear wheel wells and free them of quite a lot of gunk. With 
the

ability for the car to now properly drain I was able to find *fresh* water
coming in to the trunk.

On both sides, apparently some where above the hump of the wheel well, 
water

is able to enter and then run down the wheel wells in twin streams, one on
other side, into the pockets where the drains are located. However I am
unsure where the water actually starts. Since it is coming from both sides
apparently equally, would this be more likely to be a shot rear window 
seal,

or something to do with the sunroof?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] one for wilton?

2010-06-06 Thread E M
Maybe they're just a redneck attempt at a homemade doorstay. hee hee.  I did
notice that pretty much every piece of trim is falling off the inside of the
door.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 10:37, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Anybody else notice the custom wires into the driver's door?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] one for wilton?



  I seriously doubt those rims are properly hub centric. As such, would that
 mean that the spindles have been damaged due to the improper rims?

 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:

  http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ctd/1771692049.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

i have got to figure out something good for you to eat when you get here.

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Right O , just finished up a session with Dan G aka mao, I tell ya that bloke 
can
talk the leg off a horse, took us out to Gene  Jude's for a wicked hot dog, in
fact I got one for a midnight snack and am eating it now, then drove us down to 
a
top bottle shop for some wicked brews and came up for a beer and chat which was
real fun (seeing as meeting dinky di US people is one of my main aims), although
I don't think he understood a word I said, me and Fay speaking Oz and Dan
speaking American but we had fun. Unfortunatley I don't realize how fast I talk
and it must be hard for Americans to understand me, Fay is better at slowing
down. Yes we do speak English but it seems Oz English is spoken quicker than US
English, or it may be the accent, who knows?

Hendrik
who is too inebriated to think of a witisicm (you do the spell check)

On Sat Jun  5 18:09 , 'Kevin Kraly' kr...@comcast.net sent:

  
Man, I wish that there were In-N-Out Burger's up here in the Northwet!  I 
used to eat them quite often while growing up in Southern California. 
That's what a hamburger's all about!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread LWB250
Probably a rear window seal.  if the trunk seal fails, the water just runs down 
the edges of the trunk and off the back of the car.

The rear window seal leak is a tough one to find - there are several layers of 
metal between the rear window frame and the trunk, and the water will wind it's 
way around through these parts and make it into the trunk area.

Dan

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:30 AM

It's been a while since I've had enough free time to really get online and
ask questions. So this is going back quite a ways to when I was asking about
my leaking trunk. I did eventually find the extremely clogged drains on both
sides of the rear wheel wells and free them of quite a lot of gunk. With the
ability for the car to now properly drain I was able to find *fresh* water
coming in to the trunk.

On both sides, apparently some where above the hump of the wheel well, water
is able to enter and then run down the wheel wells in twin streams, one on
other side, into the pockets where the drains are located. However I am
unsure where the water actually starts. Since it is coming from both sides
apparently equally, would this be more likely to be a shot rear window seal,
or something to do with the sunroof?

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Apparently Fay has heard that fried pickles is a local delicatesy down your way?
Not that i would want to eat too many of em and don't forget about your local
brews, OK will be judged on that as well.

Hendrik
who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural habitat

On Sun Jun  6  8:18 , 'Kaleb C. Striplin' ka...@striplin.net sent:

i have got to figure out something good for you to eat when you get here.

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 Right O , just finished up a session with Dan G aka mao, I tell ya that 
 bloke can


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Apparently Fay has heard that fried pickles is a local delicatesy down your way?


Haven't had that, but you should try Jalapeno poppers if you haven't had them.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

fried pickles?  If so, I sure dont eat them.

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

Apparently Fay has heard that fried pickles is a local delicatesy down your way?
Not that i would want to eat too many of em and don't forget about your local
brews, OK will be judged on that as well.

Hendrik
who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural habitat

On Sun Jun  6  8:18 , 'Kaleb C. Striplin' ka...@striplin.net sent:

  

i have got to figure out something good for you to eat when you get here.

Hendrik and Fay wrote:


Right O , just finished up a session with Dan G aka mao, I tell ya that bloke 
can
  



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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Allan Streib
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au 
wrote:

 Hendrik
 who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
 habitat

Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox 
fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
And what sets them apart?
I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like the two
footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and the Port
Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
What has 200 legs and three teeth?
The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.

Hendrik
who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again

On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib' str...@cs.indiana.edu sent:

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au 
wrote:

 Hendrik
 who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
 habitat

Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox
fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Rear window or rear windSHIELD??

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:25 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Probably a rear window seal.  if the trunk seal fails, the water just runs
 down the edges of the trunk and off the back of the car.

 The rear window seal leak is a tough one to find - there are several layers
 of metal between the rear window frame and the trunk, and the water will
 wind it's way around through these parts and make it into the trunk area.

 Dan

 --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:30 AM

 It's been a while since I've had enough free time to really get online and
 ask questions. So this is going back quite a ways to when I was asking
 about
 my leaking trunk. I did eventually find the extremely clogged drains on
 both
 sides of the rear wheel wells and free them of quite a lot of gunk. With
 the
 ability for the car to now properly drain I was able to find *fresh* water
 coming in to the trunk.

 On both sides, apparently some where above the hump of the wheel well,
 water
 is able to enter and then run down the wheel wells in twin streams, one on
 other side, into the pockets where the drains are located. However I am
 unsure where the water actually starts. Since it is coming from both sides
 apparently equally, would this be more likely to be a shot rear window
 seal,
 or something to do with the sunroof?

 EdB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah similar sort of thing.  The White Sox are the south-side,  working-class 
team, the Cubs are the north side more upper class team.


On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:15 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au 
wrote:
 And what sets them apart?
 I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like
 the two
 footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and
 the Port
 Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
 What has 200 legs and three teeth?
 The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.
 
 Hendrik
 who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again
 
 On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib' str...@cs.indiana.edu sent:
 
 On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au 
 wrote:
 
  Hendrik
  who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
  habitat
 
 Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox
 fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

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On 6/6/2010 12:15 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

And what sets them apart?
I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like the two
footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and the Port
Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
What has 200 legs and three teeth?
The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.

Hendrik
who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again

On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib'str...@cs.indiana.edu  sent:

   

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au  
wrote:

 

Hendrik
who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
habitat
   

Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox
 

fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.
   

Allan


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[MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

This one looks pretty nice, low miles.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1778006899.html

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[MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

from a guy named Tron?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

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Re: [MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950

2010-06-06 Thread WILTON

'Sure looks like MBTex to me.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950



This one looks pretty nice, low miles.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1778006899.html

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread E M
I wouldn't buy a car from Tron, or a grease car, or any car that had a
component on it called a lovecraft.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 12:48, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 from a guy named Tron?

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

It probably gives it more HP

--R

On 6/6/2010 12:59 PM, E M wrote:

I wouldn't buy a car from Tron, or a grease car, or any car that had a
component on it called a lovecraft.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 12:48, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

   

from a guy named Tron?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread E M
Maybe.  I'd be scared to ask exactly what it does.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 13:05, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 It probably gives it more HP

 --R


 On 6/6/2010 12:59 PM, E M wrote:

 I wouldn't buy a car from Tron, or a grease car, or any car that had a
 component on it called a lovecraft.

 Ed
 300E

 On 6 June 2010 12:48, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:



 from a guy named Tron?

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

You didn't get it, did you?

--R

On 6/6/2010 1:10 PM, E M wrote:

Maybe.  I'd be scared to ask exactly what it does.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 13:05, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

   

It probably gives it more HP

--R


On 6/6/2010 12:59 PM, E M wrote:

 

I wouldn't buy a car from Tron, or a grease car, or any car that had a
component on it called a lovecraft.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 12:48, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
   

wrote:
 



   

from a guy named Tron?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread E M
That's exactly what would scare me about riding in a car so equipped.

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 13:14, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 You didn't get it, did you?

 --R


 On 6/6/2010 1:10 PM, E M wrote:

 Maybe.  I'd be scared to ask exactly what it does.

 Ed
 300E

 On 6 June 2010 13:05, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:



 It probably gives it more HP

 --R


 On 6/6/2010 12:59 PM, E M wrote:



 I wouldn't buy a car from Tron, or a grease car, or any car that had a
 component on it called a lovecraft.

 Ed
 300E

 On 6 June 2010 12:48, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net


 wrote:






 from a guy named Tron?

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread Jim Cathey
is able to enter and then run down the wheel wells in twin streams, 
one on

other side, into the pockets where the drains are located.


The sunroof drains come down there, and should be tubed
to beneath the car.  Or the window leaks badly!

My SL's trunk seal is leaking, the water is getting under the
rubber and spilling over the short metal lip and in.  There's
less of a crown on the SL's trunk opening than the 123, I just
thought I'd point out that it can leak even when there's nothing
obviously wrong.  (The channel needs re-cleaning out and a full
gluing of the rubber.  That'll keep the water from spilling into
the trunk, it'll instead follow the channel around the trunk, then
down and off the back as it's supposed to go.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Henburgers, etc. on the road

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
http://www.fatburger.com

-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:20:36 -0400
From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
To:
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] Henburgers, etc. on the road
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I've
 jokingly called them fatburger.  If you do not specify  
little,
 you will get a double patty burger.  You can get pretty muh  
anything
 you want on them.

A large fries is a 22oz cup filled. Twice. A
 small is about a 16oz  
cup, (twice). The fries are cut, blanched 
and fried in store, in  
peanut oil only.  They serve dry roasted in 
shell peanuts freely.  I  
think someone clocked a loaded bacon 
cheeseburger (not a little!) and  
a large fries at better than 2300 
(dietary) calories... (it does  
wonders for those trying to gain 
weight...)

Btw one of my favorite frontage road feed lots is 
Texas Roadhouse...

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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Could be a very good price. Engine is a 300Kmi version. My auto tranny 
went 185Kmi. The Brakes are due and front end parts may be shakey.



--
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2007 HHR
'95 F-250 P.S.D. 235KMI
Looking at used D/P

Member of Escapees 
National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club

On 6/5/2010 9:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Any opinions on a 2000 Ford F250 Powerstroke 7.3 with 130K miles?

$12,000 seem like a lot for that?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread Peter T. Arnold
The cost of my Ford Certified Tranny o'haul was $1350, with a 3 year 
warranted *including in and out labor,* from Ford.  I paid my Indy about 
$800 to swap it.  I was able to buy the tranny fron the Ford certified 
rebuilder who is about 100 miles from me.  The did delivery and pick-up 
of the core.  I was very pleased.



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On 6/5/2010 11:14 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:
$12000 is what they're going for around here with similar miles (based 
on local craigslist results).  There were a couple in the $8K to $10K 
range with nearly 200K miles, and one at $18900 with 148K, 
outrageously overpriced.  Our '99 F350 XLT crew cab 4x4 was a great 
truck.  Has the tranny been rebuilt?  Our neighbor's had to have the 
tranny rebuilt at 126K or so when it started slipping.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon who wishes he still had that '99 Ford with 
no truck payments and it would still have less than 100K miles


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread LWB250
Rear windshield/windscreen, whatever.
Dan

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:22 PM

Rear window or rear windSHIELD??

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:25 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Probably a rear window seal.  if the trunk seal fails, the water just runs
 down the edges of the trunk and off the back of the car.

 The rear window seal leak is a tough one to find - there are several layers
 of metal between the rear window frame and the trunk, and the water will
 wind it's way around through these parts and make it into the trunk area.

 Dan





  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread LWB250
Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park.

Dan


--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:42 PM

Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

--R

On 6/6/2010 12:15 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 And what sets them apart?
 I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like the two
 footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and the 
 Port
 Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
 What has 200 legs and three teeth?
 The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.

 Hendrik
 who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again

 On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib'str...@cs.indiana.edu  sent:

    
 On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au  
 wrote:

      
 Hendrik
 who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
 habitat
        
 Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox
      
 fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.
    
 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Allan Streib
U.S. Cellular Field now

LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park.

 Dan


 --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:42 PM

 Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

 --R

 On 6/6/2010 12:15 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 And what sets them apart?
 I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like the 
 two
 footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and the 
 Port
 Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
 What has 200 legs and three teeth?
 The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.

 Hendrik
 who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again

 On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib'str...@cs.indiana.edu  sent:

    
 On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au  
 wrote:

      
 Hendrik
 who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
 habitat
        
 Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that 
 Sox
      
 fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.
    
 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

You've been there too, huh?  A big fan are you?

--R

On 6/6/2010 2:00 PM, LWB250 wrote:

Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park.

Dan


--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:42 PM

Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

--R

On 6/6/2010 12:15 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
   

And what sets them apart?
I assume that one is well behaved and the other is feral? Sort of like the two
footy teams in Adelaide, the Adelaide Crows being the upmarket team and the Port
Adelaide Power (my team) being the working class bogan ferals.
What has 200 legs and three teeth?
The Port Adelaide cheer squad...well tat's what THEY say.

Hendrik
who is sad cause the power lost yesterday.again

On Sun Jun  6  9:05 , 'Allan Streib'str...@cs.indiana.edu   sent:


 

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:25 +0800, Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au   
wrote:


   

Hendrik
who is off to a ballgame to observe the local species in their natural
habitat

 

Assuming that's the White Sox game you're talking about, do be aware that Sox

   

fans and Cubs fans are not the same animal.

 

Allan


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[MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Frederick W Moir

Hello out there in MBZ land.
I have unearthed a reel of olde super-8 film, from about 30 years ago. 
Wedding stuff etc.
Is there any method of transferring this to a CD that does not involve 
expensive purchases?

(Can they be run on diesel?)
There seem to be quite a few companies offering services to do this, are 
they worthwhile?
I have a couple of S8 films for anyone who wants them. Errol Flynn They 
Died With Their Boots On

and  How to Succeed as a Gangster, Bogart/Cagney.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread LWB250
Driven by it many times, that's about it.

Dan

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 2:07 PM

You've been there too, huh?  A big fan are you?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread LarryT

Hi Fred -
   Most local film processors should do the work - I believe even the film 
place at Walmart does it as do the various drug stores that offer a drop off 
for developing.  Basically anyplace that would have developed the 8mm back 
when will put it on a CD for you.  Don't know the cost but a Google should 
give you some insight on what a bargain is.


   But first, I suggest you do some homework on the longevity of CDs/DVDs 
recorded on machines below the quality of those used for feature films.   I 
read they may have a lifespan of less than 5 years before they lose quality. 
This is said to be especially true of home computer burned discs.Of 
course the same was said of VHS tapes and I watch some I stored in a 
unheated room for 25+ years - and they're fine.


   YMMV - it's been a year or more since I read that - things may be 
changed or it may have been one persons opinion/bad experience.  But before 
doing anything permanent with the originals consider you may need them 
again.


Good luck -
LarryT
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.


Hello out there in MBZ land.
I have unearthed a reel of olde super-8 film, from about 30 years ago. 
Wedding stuff etc.
Is there any method of transferring this to a CD that does not involve 
expensive purchases?

(Can they be run on diesel?)
There seem to be quite a few companies offering services to do this, are 
they worthwhile?
I have a couple of S8 films for anyone who wants them. Errol Flynn They 
Died With Their Boots On

and  How to Succeed as a Gangster, Bogart/Cagney.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche - $975

2010-06-06 Thread LarryT
Didn't they have some kind of trouble with the balance shaft?   RR'ing the 
T belt every 30K is pretty often for a daily driver


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On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Would a 350/700R4 fit in this thing?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1775932517.html



IIRC that big four is a tight squeeze in the 924/944 already.

Maybe that GM V-6 meant for longitudinal applications that's basically 3/4
of a 350 would fit?

Keep in mind the transmission is actually a transaxle at the back and the
driveshaft runs at engine speed.  Maybe the best thing would be to source 
a

good Porsche manny and mate it to whatever engine you want.**

Motor locked up most likely means the PO was a dope who ran the car into
the ground.  Those are interference engines with a timing belt change
interval of 30K (!).  Who knows what else is broken.

Alex
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[MBZ] Foam Seal - W124

2010-06-06 Thread LarryT

Howdy -
Before I go to EPC and search, has anyone had to replace the foam seal that 
fits basically inside the hood under the grill MB star?   There seems to be 
3 pieces of foam but mine may be damaged making it look like that.   There's 
a center piece and one on each side of the front edge of the hood.  Making 
it - one under the grill/radiator shell, and one to the left and another to 
the right of it.


Hmm.. reading that description even I don't know what I'm talking about!! 
I'd better go to EPC and start searching  I just hate trying to figure 
out what group odd stuff like this is under...


Later ya'll
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Re: [MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950

2010-06-06 Thread LWB250
1975 was one of the worst years for these, as they had the darned under hood 
catalytic converters.  The under hood temps were horrendous, and as a result, 
the plastic/rubber bits in the engine compartment suffer terribly.  More often 
than not all of the little pieces of fuel line between the injectors and rails 
are all hard and brittle, and often crack and leak due to the heat and age.

I saw lots of these in Florida.  1975 seemed to be a popular year for these 
down there...

Dan

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Subject: [MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:45 PM

This one looks pretty nice, low miles.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1778006899.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread John Reames

I've had burned CDs stored properly last less than 6 years.

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On Jun 6, 2010, at 14:45, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


Hi Fred -
  Most local film processors should do the work - I believe even the  
film place at Walmart does it as do the various drug stores that  
offer a drop off for developing.  Basically anyplace that would have  
developed the 8mm back when will put it on a CD for you.  Don't know  
the cost but a Google should give you some insight on what a bargain  
is.


  But first, I suggest you do some homework on the longevity of CDs/ 
DVDs recorded on machines below the quality of those used for  
feature films.   I read they may have a lifespan of less than 5  
years before they lose quality. This is said to be especially true  
of home computer burned discs.Of course the same was said of VHS  
tapes and I watch some I stored in a unheated room for 25+ years -  
and they're fine.


  YMMV - it's been a year or more since I read that - things may be  
changed or it may have been one persons opinion/bad experience.  But  
before doing anything permanent with the originals consider you may  
need them again.


Good luck -
LarryT
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Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.


Hello out there in MBZ land.
I have unearthed a reel of olde super-8 film, from about 30 years  
ago. Wedding stuff etc.
Is there any method of transferring this to a CD that does not  
involve expensive purchases?

(Can they be run on diesel?)
There seem to be quite a few companies offering services to do  
this, are they worthwhile?
I have a couple of S8 films for anyone who wants them. Errol Flynn  
They Died With Their Boots On

and  How to Succeed as a Gangster, Bogart/Cagney.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 from a guy named Tron?

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html



I would be afraid that it would spontaneously de-rez!

Also, who posts an ad for a W123 240D and neglects the crucial question of
whether it has a slushbox or a stick???

Alex
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[MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1769089048.html

If not, who in their right mind would paint a car like that?

I guess maybe it's white or beige and the white balance on the digital
camera they used was way off.

Any bets on how much longer an OM616 with 400,000 miles on it already will
last?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
That looks factory to me, I think the donor I pulled my engine from was that
color.

Walt

On Jun 6, 2010 3:45 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1769089048.html

If not, who in their right mind would paint a car like that?

I guess maybe it's white or beige and the white balance on the digital
camera they used was way off.

Any bets on how much longer an OM616 with 400,000 miles on it already will
last?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino
The rear window can only be a windshield or windscreen if you are driving
reeeaaallly fast in reverse.  Otherwise there is no wind to shield or screen
you from.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

Rear windshield/windscreen, whatever.
Dan

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From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 12:22 PM

Rear window or rear windSHIELD??

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:25 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Probably a rear window seal.  if the trunk seal fails, the water just runs
 down the edges of the trunk and off the back of the car.

 The rear window seal leak is a tough one to find - there are several
layers
 of metal between the rear window frame and the trunk, and the water will
 wind it's way around through these parts and make it into the trunk area.

 Dan





  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Any home burned CD/DVD should be considered ephemeral.  Not only are  
the dyes light sensitive (as in they are bleached by laser to recored  
in the first place), there is very little data (or itnerest, so far  
as I can see) on longevity.  Copies on a hard drive should last  
longer, so long as the drive works, but again, this is limited  
lifetime, not permanent


At the very least use RW media, it's somewhat more robust.  The  
absolute best is phase-change media, but I've not seen any of that  
around for about 15 years now.  Too slow for on-line usage, but not  
subject to magnetic disturbances or fading of organic dyes.


Stamped metallic CD/DVD (as in mass produced) should last as long  
as the plastic, but that's not exactly what I would call archival  
either.


I've had this discussion many times with various groups of people,  
and the consensus is that one must use rolling backups.  Won't save  
you when the data goes sprong and you only have one copy, but you  
should have a better chance of keeping it.  A huge pain if you have a  
large collection, but better than having all your images or films  
vanish one day.


Sadly, BW or laquered kodachrome film will probably long outlast  
current recordable materials.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I've had a few storebought cd's come rotten in the case, no fun there. As
for longevity, you need a humidity  temp controlled storage area to get any
apreciable lifetime.
As far as being able to reproduce X years down the road, properly stored
film would actualy be high on the list of good choices.
You can always get a lamp and motors rigged up, even when DVD's are dead and
the next best thing is matrixvision. ;)

Walt, who needs to interject his 2 cents

On Jun 6, 2010 3:33 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

I've had burned CDs stored properly last less than 6 years.

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On Jun 6, 2010, at 14:45, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Fred -
  Most local film ...
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread Jim Cathey
The rear window can only be a windshield or windscreen if you are 
driving
reeeaaallly fast in reverse.  Otherwise there is no wind to shield or 
screen

you from.


Speaking as an SL owner, I beg to differ.  The blast of air
roiling forwards as you drive can be quite unpleasant.  The
flip-up aftermarket see-through windscreen is worth owning.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Mary Kay?  (Cosmetically it has its dents and dings, and she can sell 
you more!)


--R

On 6/6/2010 3:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1769089048.html

If not, who in their right mind would paint a car like that?

I guess maybe it's white or beige and the white balance on the digital
camera they used was way off.

Any bets on how much longer an OM616 with 400,000 miles on it already will
last?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche - $975

2010-06-06 Thread E M
The 944 was a pretty reliable engine if serviced according to the book.
150,000-200,000 miles between overhauls not a big deal.  Belts do need to be
kept on top of, but that's true of any interference engine.  I watched a
couple of friends do the belts, and it's not a really big job.  Best to
invest in, or rent a proper belt tension gauge though, not rely on the old
quarter twist method. hee hee.  I've not heard of any real problems with the
balance shaft.

Not a car I would mess around trying to do an engine conversion on.  The
inline 4 is a good engine, and lots of used ones about, so why mess about
trying to fit apples with oranges.

Of far greater concern on an old 944, are the lower ball joints.  The
factory cast them in, so you will have to find someone to either drill them
out, repla$e everything, or go with one of the companies that did the lower
racing arm$ for their track cars, most of which I'm aware of had replaceable
ball joints.  Always remember, there are no cheap porsches. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 14:47, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Didn't they have some kind of trouble with the balance shaft?   RR'ing the
 T belt every 30K is pretty often for a daily driver

 LarryT

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche - $975

  On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  Would a 350/700R4 fit in this thing?

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1775932517.html


  IIRC that big four is a tight squeeze in the 924/944 already.

 Maybe that GM V-6 meant for longitudinal applications that's basically 3/4
 of a 350 would fit?

 Keep in mind the transmission is actually a transaxle at the back and the
 driveshaft runs at engine speed.  Maybe the best thing would be to source
 a
 good Porsche manny and mate it to whatever engine you want.**

 Motor locked up most likely means the PO was a dope who ran the car into
 the ground.  Those are interference engines with a timing belt change
 interval of 30K (!).  Who knows what else is broken.

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Foam Seal - W124

2010-06-06 Thread OK Don
I reomved the disintegrating remains of it from one of my cars, it was long
gone in the other two. I haven't gotten around to replacing any of them yet
--- post the part numbers when you find it/them!

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:59 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Howdy -
 Before I go to EPC and search, has anyone had to replace the foam seal that
 fits basically inside the hood under the grill MB star?   There seems to be
 3 pieces of foam but mine may be damaged making it look like that.   There's
 a center piece and one on each side of the front edge of the hood.  Making
 it - one under the grill/radiator shell, and one to the left and another to
 the right of it.

 Hmm.. reading that description even I don't know what I'm talking about!!
 I'd better go to EPC and start searching  I just hate trying to figure
 out what group odd stuff like this is under...


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Re: [MBZ] 75 450SL MERCEDES BENZ ROADSTER - $9950

2010-06-06 Thread OK Don
I thought that was the '76, maybe it was both '75  76? Shouldn't be to hrd
to find later model manifolds and exhaust system these days, though
replacing them in the car will be difficult.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:12 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 1975 was one of the worst years for these, as they had the darned under
 hood catalytic converters.  The under hood temps were horrendous, and as a
 result, the plastic/rubber bits in the engine compartment suffer terribly.
  More often than not all of the little pieces of fuel line between the
 injectors and rails are all hard and brittle, and often crack and leak due
 to the heat and age.

 I saw lots of these in Florida.  1975 seemed to be a popular year for these
 down there...

 Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Kraly
Long before the first Dodge, around 2001.  I do like the fuel mileage and 
power of the Cummins.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Porsche - $975

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm think some blown Jap engine and Mustang II front suspension, fat 
tires, coffee can exhaust...


--R

On 6/6/2010 4:47 PM, E M wrote:

The 944 was a pretty reliable engine if serviced according to the book.
150,000-200,000 miles between overhauls not a big deal.  Belts do need to be
kept on top of, but that's true of any interference engine.  I watched a
couple of friends do the belts, and it's not a really big job.  Best to
invest in, or rent a proper belt tension gauge though, not rely on the old
quarter twist method. hee hee.  I've not heard of any real problems with the
balance shaft.

Not a car I would mess around trying to do an engine conversion on.  The
inline 4 is a good engine, and lots of used ones about, so why mess about
trying to fit apples with oranges.

Of far greater concern on an old 944, are the lower ball joints.  The
factory cast them in, so you will have to find someone to either drill them
out, repla$e everything, or go with one of the companies that did the lower
racing arm$ for their track cars, most of which I'm aware of had replaceable
ball joints.  Always remember, there are no cheap porsches. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 6 June 2010 14:47, LarryTl02tur...@comcast.net  wrote:

   

Didn't they have some kind of trouble with the balance shaft?   RR'ing the
T belt every 30K is pretty often for a daily driver

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  On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Rich Thomas
 

richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

  Would a 350/700R4 fit in this thing?
   

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1775932517.html


  IIRC that big four is a tight squeeze in the 924/944 already.
 

Maybe that GM V-6 meant for longitudinal applications that's basically 3/4
of a 350 would fit?

Keep in mind the transmission is actually a transaxle at the back and the
driveshaft runs at engine speed.  Maybe the best thing would be to source
a
good Porsche manny and mate it to whatever engine you want.**

Motor locked up most likely means the PO was a dope who ran the car into
the ground.  Those are interference engines with a timing belt change
interval of 30K (!).  Who knows what else is broken.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Fred -
   Most local film processors should do the work - I believe even the film
 place at Walmart does it as do the various drug stores that offer a drop off
 for developing.  Basically anyplace that would have developed the 8mm back
 when will put it on a CD for you.


Hey, finally a subject I know something about!  ;)  I have had a bit of
experience with amateur Super-8 production, usually shooting on film,
transferring to video, editing and doing other post-production jobs in
software (originally Adobe Premiere, now Apple Final Cut Pro), and then
burning to DVD.

Larry's right that most local film processors will still develop Super-8
(although they aren't really doing the developing themselves, just sending
it to Kodak).  But I believe what Fred wants is to transfer an
already-developed reel to a digital format.  That's a whole 'nother kettle
of monkeys, as my sainted grandfather used to say.

Transferring a motion picture to video is very different than transferring
still film to digital image files; it's a highly technical process and as
with most technical processes you can do it cheap, or you can do it
right---pick one or the other.

For the best possible results, there is only one company to use---Alpha Cine
Labs in Seattle.  http://www.alphacine.com/services/telecine.php  Any of
the other places you can find by Googling super-8 to video conversion will
do the job, but with, in my experience, only middling quality---no better
than you can do yourself at home by the following method:

1.  Beg, borrow, or steal a video camcorder and a Super-8 projector.
2.  Do the same for a projection screen, or just find a large blank white
wall.
3.  Set up the camcorder and the projector alongside each other, about 10
feet from the wall/screen.
4.  Run the film and adjust the projector's and camcorder's zoom and focus
controls until the projected image is clear, bright, and sharp, and the
image on the camcorder captures all of the projected image with a minimal
blank border.
5.  Run the film again while recording on the camcorder.
6.  Hook the camcorder up to a large-screen TV (so as to easily see the
details of the recorded image) and play back the results of step 5.
7.  Repeat steps 4-6 until satisfied with the results.
6.  Hook the camcorder up to a computer and capture the video into any video
editing program (the free ones are fine---iMovie, Microsoft Movie Maker, or
whatever Linux equivalent exists [there must be one by now]).
7.  Edit if you want, and fine-tune the color balance, contrast, brightness,
etc., in software.
8.  Burn the results to DVD if needed (again, the low-end consumer software
is fine; I use iDVD), or just keep it as a playable movie file on the
computer (.mp4, .mov, .avi or whatever).

Hope this helps.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread OK Don
I'm relying on copying the stuff I want to keep (scanned and digital
photots, mostly) to two different hard disks, and moving it to newer disks
as I replace computers. I have thought about flask drives for higher value
stuff, like weddings, etc. I haven't read anything about the expected long
term life of them, just the limited number of writes, which isn't an issue
when you're using it to archive video and images.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've had a few storebought cd's come rotten in the case, no fun there. As
 for longevity, you need a humidity  temp controlled storage area to get
 any
 apreciable lifetime.
 As far as being able to reproduce X years down the road, properly stored
 film would actualy be high on the list of good choices.
 You can always get a lamp and motors rigged up, even when DVD's are dead
 and
 the next best thing is matrixvision. ;)

 Walt, who needs to interject his 2 cents

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:09 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm relying on copying the stuff I want to keep (scanned and digital
 photots, mostly) to two different hard disks, and moving it to newer disks
 as I replace computers.


Easier to get a home NAS that supports RAID and hot-swappable drives, and
just replace the drives as they fail.  That's my strategy, with burned DVDs
kept off-site and periodically replaced for truly critical stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche - $975

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I'm think some blown Jap engine and Mustang II front suspension, fat tires, 
 coffee can exhaust...


Most small Japanese engines are set up for transverse front-drive,
though.  How about the flat-six from a Gold Wing?  (Now that I think
of it, somebody needs to put one of those in the back of a Porsche 356
kit car...)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread OK Don
The two complicating factors in transfering film to any electronic media
(analog or digital video) is that film is shot/projected at 24 frames per
second, and US video is 29.95 (or so) frames per second. The other is that
film has a much higher dynamic range than electronic media, meaning that
dark areas in film will be black in video, and lighter areas will be burned
out white in video.

I'd use the best service I could find/afford to do the conversion for you.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


 Transferring a motion picture to video is very different than transferring
 still film to digital image files; it's a highly technical process and as
 with most technical processes you can do it cheap, or you can do it
 right---pick one or the other.

 For the best possible results, there is only one company to use---Alpha
 Cine
 Labs in Seattle.  http://www.alphacine.com/services/telecine.php  Any of
 the other places you can find by Googling super-8 to video conversion
 will
 do the job, but with, in my experience, only middling quality---no better
 than you can do yourself at home by the following method:


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Trunk Seal

2010-06-06 Thread OK Don
Jim is right - from my hippy days driving an MGA with long hair whipping
into my eyes - it hurt and was dangerous.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

  The rear window can only be a windshield or windscreen if you are driving
 reeeaaallly fast in reverse.  Otherwise there is no wind to shield or
 screen
 you from.


 Speaking as an SL owner, I beg to differ.  The blast of air
 roiling forwards as you drive can be quite unpleasant.  The
 flip-up aftermarket see-through windscreen is worth owning.

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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Kraly wrote:
Long before the first Dodge, around 2001.  I do like the fuel mileage 
and power of the Cummins.


So you like to buy trucks made to go 300-400,000 miles and sell them when they 
are two years old?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
You need a 5 blade projector and a good video camera. A tele-cine mirror is 
desirable but not required. If you're not using a 5 blade projector you'll get 
an annoying flicker in the video thats hard to fix.

I *might* be able to find the required equipment, meaning the projector and a 
good screen, the camera I've already got. While we're at it we should transfer 
the movies...

I'm in Burbank next week which is really the place to be to talk to people 
about this sort of thing, let me see what I can find out. Supposedly one night 
I'll be going for beer/dinner with the guys from Original Productions, they do 
Deadliest Catch among other cool things, good folks too.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:21:31 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net
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Subject:
 [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.
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Hello out there in
 MBZ land.
I have unearthed a reel of olde super-8 film, from about 
30 years ago. 
Wedding stuff etc.
Is there any method of 
transferring this to a CD that does not involve 
expensive purchases?
(Can
 they be run on diesel?)
There seem to be quite a few companies 
offering services to do this, are 
they worthwhile?
I have a 
couple of S8 films for anyone who wants them. Errol Flynn They 
Died
 With Their Boots On
and  How to Succeed as a Gangster, 
Bogart/Cagney.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Since CD/DVDs are digital media there can't be a loss of quality which is 
pretty much set when its burnt to disk. There could be a loss of playability 
but thats a whole different story.

There have been horror stories about the degradation of CDs since day one and 
DVDs got caught with the same foolishness. I've got my copy of Pink Floyd's 
The Wall I bought in '90 when I got my first cd player and it still works 
great.

I make *many* (say 300 or so) DVDs every year and other than some being 
rejected by some DVD players (as an aside, really cheap DVD players reject many 
fewer DVDs, as do very expensive DVD players, its the middle ground which 
actually seems to be made up of the worst players) I've not had a DVD fail 
over time. The first disk I produced was in 2004 and it still plays fine 6 
years later. We'll see how well it does in another 6 but as I can detect no 
degradation of the disk surface I'm not worried. Besides which that disk has 
lasted longer than the marriage it documents.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:45:39 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.
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Hi Fred -
    Most local film processors 
should do the work - I believe even the film 
place at Walmart does 
it as do the various drug stores that offer a drop off 
for 
developing.  Basically anyplace that would have developed the 8mm back 
when
 will put it on a CD for you.  Don't know the cost but a Google should 
give
 you some insight on what a bargain is.

    But first, I suggest 
you do some homework on the longevity of CDs/DVDs 
recorded on 
machines below the quality of those used for feature films.   I 
read
 they may have a lifespan of less than 5 years before they lose quality.
 
This is said to be especially true of home computer burned discs.   
 Of 
course the same was said of VHS tapes and I watch some I stored 
in a 
unheated room for 25+ years - and they're fine.

    YMMV
 - it's been a year or more since I read that - things may be 
changed
 or it may have been one persons opinion/bad experience.  But before 
doing
 anything permanent with the originals consider you may need them 
again.

Good
 luck -
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahhh so you made me check.
I still have the first CD I ever made (a bunch of PC tools), that'd be about 
'96 I think. It still works fine...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:33:35 -0400
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I've
 had burned CDs stored properly last less than 6 years.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
BTW that first cd got dragged around through 3 more years of college, 7 years 
in a one bedroom apartment and 4 years in my basement. Can't call it properly 
stored by a long shot!

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 You need a 5 blade projector and a good video camera. A tele-cine mirror is 
 desirable
 but not required. If you're not using a 5 blade projector you'll get an 
 annoying flicker in the
 video thats hard to fix.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong ;)  but I've transferred plenty of
film to video using the method I outlined with a garage-sale cheapo
projector  and various consumer-level video cameras and never seen any
flicker to speak of, certainly no more than is in the projected image
when viewed normally.  But then some people's brains have more or less
persistence of vision built in, IIRC.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Curt Raymond
NTSC is actually 29.97...

Super 8 had a limited tonal range I seem to remember, any reasonably good DV or 
HDV camcorder should be able to reproduce it. 16mm is a whole different story.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:14:30 -0500
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.
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The two complicating factors in 
transfering film to any electronic media
(analog or digital video) is
 that film is shot/projected at 24 frames per
second, and US video is
 29.95 (or so) frames per second. The other is that
film has a much 
higher dynamic range than electronic media, meaning that
dark areas 
in film will be black in video, and lighter areas will be burned
out 
white in video.

I'd use the best service I could find/afford to 
do the conversion for you.



  
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Re: [MBZ] Would you buy a greasecar...

2010-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I wouldnt buy a greasecar period.

Rich Thomas wrote:

from a guy named Tron?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1777074383.html

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Re: [MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im pretty sure its a factory color. in fact, I do believe that was the 
same color as my first car.


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1769089048.html

If not, who in their right mind would paint a car like that?

I guess maybe it's white or beige and the white balance on the digital
camera they used was way off.

Any bets on how much longer an OM616 with 400,000 miles on it already will
last?

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Re: [MBZ] OT hen

2010-06-06 Thread RELNGSON
 Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park
 
Jeez, I don't even look at the sports section but I know it's Comiskey.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Is it kind of a pale pink or more of a flesh color?

Alex

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 color as my first car.

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Re: [MBZ] 944

2010-06-06 Thread RELNGSON
 The 944 was a pretty reliable engine if serviced according to the 
 book.
 150,000-200,000 miles between overhauls not a big deal.  Belts do need to 
 be
 kept on top of, but that's true of any interference engine.  I watched a
 couple of friends do the belts, and it's not a really big job.  Best to
 invest in, or rent a proper belt tension gauge though, not rely on the old
 quarter twist method. hee hee.  I've not heard of any real problems with 
 the
 balance shaft.
 
 Not a car I would mess around trying to do an engine conversion on.  The
 inline 4 is a good engine, and lots of used ones about, so why mess about
 trying to fit apples with oranges
 
The 944 uses two balance shafts bolted to the outside of the engine, driven 
by one toothed belt. The cam is also driven by a toothed belt and the 
failure of one can and usually does take out the other followed by destruction 
of 
the valves and maybe the head. It's twice as bad in the twincam versions. 
The belts themselves are dirt cheap but it takes a lot of labor time to 
change them. And, the factory P-9201 tool is the best way to tension them 
correctly. It's always advised when buying a used 944 that if there is no 
paperwork 
to document how long the belts have been in the car, change them 
immediately. My 944, at 55000 miles will be getting new belts soon because even 
though 
they have only about 7000 miles on them, they were installed in 1998 and 
are the third set since new. Cautious owners tension the belts at each 10K 
mile point and change them at around 30K miles. I'm sure plenty of them have 
gone much further but it's just not worth the risk. Later models with so 
called automatic tensioning are safe to go longer.

As to engine swaps, I concur that trying to install some iron GM lump would 
be foolish. But, a local Porsche indy has installed an all aluminum Pontiac 
V-8 (LS something or other, I suppose) and a 944 Turbo 5-speed transmission 
in a 1987 944. He built a custom single exhaust system and had to heavily 
modify the oil pan. The engine fits nicely but the lateral clearance at the 
back is about an inch.

I have driven this car and it's a lot of fun and goes like stink. It weighs 
about forty pounds more than stock so handling is not compromised.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Is this a factory color?

2010-06-06 Thread WILTON

Is it s'posed to be ivory or a light yellow?

Wilton

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Im pretty sure its a factory color. in fact, I do believe that was the 
same color as my first car.


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1769089048.html

If not, who in their right mind would paint a car like that?

I guess maybe it's white or beige and the white balance on the digital
camera they used was way off.

Any bets on how much longer an OM616 with 400,000 miles on it already 
will

last?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT hen

2010-06-06 Thread Rich Thomas

You don't get it either.

--R

On 6/6/2010 6:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park

 

Jeez, I don't even look at the sports section but I know it's Comiskey.

RLE
   


 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread John Reames
Yep. Although DLT and 3480/3490 media are engineered to have a long  
use and archival life...


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On Jun 6, 2010, at 16:20, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

Any home burned CD/DVD should be considered ephemeral.  Not only are  
the dyes light sensitive (as in they are bleached by laser to  
recored in the first place), there is very little data (or itnerest,  
so far as I can see) on longevity.  Copies on a hard drive should  
last longer, so long as the drive works, but again, this is limited  
lifetime, not permanent


At the very least use RW media, it's somewhat more robust.  The  
absolute best is phase-change media, but I've not seen any of that  
around for about 15 years now.  Too slow for on-line usage, but not  
subject to magnetic disturbances or fading of organic dyes.


Stamped metallic CD/DVD (as in mass produced) should last as long  
as the plastic, but that's not exactly what I would call archival  
either.


I've had this discussion many times with various groups of people,  
and the consensus is that one must use rolling backups.  Won't save  
you when the data goes sprong and you only have one copy, but you  
should have a better chance of keeping it.  A huge pain if you have  
a large collection, but better than having all your images or films  
vanish one day.


Sadly, BW or laquered kodachrome film will probably long outlast  
current recordable materials.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread John Reames
Tape that is engineered for backup, or even mini-dv, endures well...  
The flash media... I'd be concerned about charge leakage and the  
effects of interactions with various high speed particles...


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On Jun 6, 2010, at 17:09, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm relying on copying the stuff I want to keep (scanned and digital
photots, mostly) to two different hard disks, and moving it to newer  
disks
as I replace computers. I have thought about flask drives for higher  
value
stuff, like weddings, etc. I haven't read anything about the  
expected long
term life of them, just the limited number of writes, which isn't an  
issue

when you're using it to archive video and images.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com  
wrote:


I've had a few storebought cd's come rotten in the case, no fun  
there. As
for longevity, you need a humidity  temp controlled storage area  
to get

any
apreciable lifetime.
As far as being able to reproduce X years down the road, properly  
stored

film would actualy be high on the list of good choices.
You can always get a lamp and motors rigged up, even when DVD's are  
dead

and
the next best thing is matrixvision. ;)

Walt, who needs to interject his 2 cents

On Jun 6, 2010 3:33 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

I've had burned CDs stored properly last less than 6 years.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread John Reames
Ah, but the quality of discs has gone down considerably; Kodak digital  
science gold cdr's are a flickering memory that don't fade at all...  
Others... Well I have a bunch of supposedly good brand discs that have  
bit rot so bad that the players/readers cannot distinguish them from a  
disc of cardboard-- they don't even register as a cdr...



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On Jun 6, 2010, at 17:48, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Since CD/DVDs are digital media there can't be a loss of quality  
which is pretty much set when its burnt to disk. There could be a  
loss of playability but thats a whole different story.


There have been horror stories about the degradation of CDs since  
day one and DVDs got caught with the same foolishness. I've got my  
copy of Pink Floyd's The Wall I bought in '90 when I got my first  
cd player and it still works great.


I make *many* (say 300 or so) DVDs every year and other than some  
being rejected by some DVD players (as an aside, really cheap DVD  
players reject many fewer DVDs, as do very expensive DVD players,  
its the middle ground which actually seems to be made up of the  
worst players) I've not had a DVD fail over time. The first disk I  
produced was in 2004 and it still plays fine 6 years later. We'll  
see how well it does in another 6 but as I can detect no degradation  
of the disk surface I'm not worried. Besides which that disk has  
lasted longer than the marriage it documents.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:45:39 -0400
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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.
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Hi Fred -
Most local film processors
should do the work - I believe even the film
place at Walmart does
it as do the various drug stores that offer a drop off
for
developing.  Basically anyplace that would have developed the 8mm back
when
will put it on a CD for you.  Don't know the cost but a Google should
give
you some insight on what a bargain is.

But first, I suggest
you do some homework on the longevity of CDs/DVDs
recorded on
machines below the quality of those used for feature films.   I
read
they may have a lifespan of less than 5 years before they lose  
quality.


This is said to be especially true of home computer burned discs.
Of
course the same was said of VHS tapes and I watch some I stored
in a
unheated room for 25+ years - and they're fine.

YMMV
- it's been a year or more since I read that - things may be
changed
or it may have been one persons opinion/bad experience.  But before
doing
anything permanent with the originals consider you may need them
again.

Good
luck -
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

You meant Kaminski Park, no doubt - working class and all...
mao

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[MBZ] U.S. Cellular Field

2010-06-06 Thread Mike Esh

You mean U.S. Cellular Field of course!


On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote:


--R wrote:

Are you going to Kaminsky Park?


You meant Kaminski Park, no doubt - working class and all...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel

2010-06-06 Thread drcscruggs

 

 I have a 2002 ford diesel with 190k+ miles and it runs great!!   I did and if 
has not happened yet the water pump will go about 130K.  With that in mind you 
may wish to make sure that it has not been overheated.  I have a crew cab and 
2wd (not 4x4).  This has truly been one of the very best vehicles I have ever 
owned.  I got it new in 2002.  I got this truck as a good friend of mine had 
one that had over 300k miles and he told me that he had had no problems with 
his.  It will pull a boat, trailer and never know it is there except your 
milage will decrease.  I get about 16-17 when not towing.  I rarely tow though. 
 Maybe 20 on highway if you do NOT go too fast.  Try to stay around 65 or below 
and you will get the better mileage.  I agree 12 is a little high.  


 

 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT question on a Ford diesel


Could be a very good price. Engine is a 300Kmi version. My auto tranny went 
185Kmi. The Brakes are due and front end parts may be shakey. 
 
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On 6/5/2010 9:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote: 
 Any opinions on a 2000 Ford F250 Powerstroke 7.3 with 130K miles? 
 
 $12,000 seem like a lot for that? 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Super 8 conversion

2010-06-06 Thread Frederick W Moir

Burt.
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HTH
Fred Moir
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On 6/6/2010 5:22 PM, Burt Anderson wrote:

Hi Fred,

I am having trouble sending a message to the list.  Can you give me the
address.  TX.

I am going thru the same dilemma you are, regarding the old Super 8's.  I
have miles of them and found the only cheap way is to show them on a movie
screen and use a video camera to copy them.  The quality of the reproduction
is not as good as we are now accustomed to.  I started this but stopped
because the sound of the projector annoyed me.  What surprises me are the
comments about deterioration on the DVD's  I thought if you put them on
a disk they ere good for many years.

Burt Anderson




   


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Re: [MBZ] OT Henburgers, Hendogs and life inChicago

2010-06-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Don't know, it's called US cellular field and the Sox won 8-7, quite a good 
game.

Hendrik
who knows a little about baseball

On Sun Jun  6  9:42 , Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net sent:

Are you going to Kaminsky Park?

--R

On 6/6/2010 12:15 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 And what sets them apart?
 I a

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Re: [MBZ] OT Super-8 Conversion.

2010-06-06 Thread Allan Streib
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:20 -0500, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Stamped metallic CD/DVD (as in mass produced) should last as long  
 as the plastic, but that's not exactly what I would call archival  
 either.

Only if they are handled with cotton gloves and stored with meticulous 
cleanliness.  This is the reason I think that DVDs are one of the biggest 
consumer scams ever perpetrated.  I've had dozens of DVDs become either totally 
or partly unplayable due to what appears to be a fairly minor scratch.  I've 
never had a VHS tape do this, in fact I have some tapes that are well over 20 
years old that still play fine.  I think this is mostly due to the VHS cassette 
design which protects the tape when it's not actually in the player.

Yeah the picture quality of VHS is not quite that of a DVD but it's good 
enough, and on the plus side you can easily skip the previews and FBI warnings, 
no menus to fool with, and they work.

As a result I don't buy DVDs anymore, and I've never bought a single Blu-Ray 
disc nor will I.


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Re: [MBZ] OT hen/Comiskey

2010-06-06 Thread RELNGSON
 ...You don't get it either...
 
Very likely.

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[MBZ] OT Beer review

2010-06-06 Thread Hendrik and Fay
mao asked me to write up my thoughts on a couple of brews we got at Binny's
(never seen so many different beers in one place but this is the US after all, I
said to Dan that I expected an isle of Bud, an isle of Coors, an isle of Miller
and a few imported usuals like that energy drink from Holland).
We got a couple of Founder brews, double trouble and old curmudgeon ale, plus a
big bottle of something I can't remember the name of and roomservice took the
bottle (although I would have loved to take it home with me for my collection
but..).
Anywho, the big bottle was nice and carried off it's high alcohol content (9.5%)
well but the founders brews are too high in the alcohol content (9.4%) and have
an unpleasant alcohole taste, well some might like that.
However they are all competent brews but the founders need to take the alcohol
down to 7.5%, to bring out the flavours of the beer. If I wanted to taste 
alcohol
I would drink spirits but I find that mixing the founders stuff with Sam Adams
boston ale, produces a very nice drink.
Sam Adams being a very nice beer but not having quite the ale taste and needs a
little something extra. Whack in a bit of founders and you have a nicely balance
ale at 7-8% alcohol.
Well that's my thoughts, buy a box of Sam Adams and a 4 pack of founders and 
then
mix them together, perhaps not quite 1-1 but more at 2-1 or try it until you get
to a brew that you're happy with.
Lastly I have to apologize to the US nation for assuming that you nothing about
beer, which I thought kinda strange, seeing you have had immigrants from all 
over
the world, in fact Sam Adams Boston lager is probably one of the worlds great
semi-mainstream beers for those who like a good, heavier beer.
Ohh and at the ballgame today they had a good selection of beers available as
well, better than the stuff they sell at Oz sporting events and yes the hot dogs
where good too.

Hendrik
who is enjoying one of his founder/sam adams creations

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