Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: If ever you see a 240D in a junkyard, look for these wheels and grab 'em! Hah! I probably have more W123s here than all the junk yards in the eight surrounding counties have combined!! That's not a difficult feat, since I am aware of _one_ yard in that area that occasionally will have a car or two. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Mitch Haley wrote: Altimax RT in 98T - extra load rating are probably a good all around choice for $71 plus shipping for 205/70 tires. Fmiser wrote: I'm quite satisfied. I'm on the second set on my wagon. Since I tend to load it, I wanted the extra load rating. But I don't feel I sacrificed to get the load rating. Mitch Haley wrote: How many miles did you get out of the first set? Looks like 205/70-14 are rated 600 A A. A bit over 30,000 miles. Ball joint sort of ate one of them. Then a road hazard ruined another. So I replace them all so I would have a couple good spares. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Rich wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? Sorry no waltzing. I did date a woman in college that was a dance instructor. She tried to teach me to dance. Never was very good. Perhaps it was because I was 19 year old kid and ballroom dancing didn't seem very cool. Gerry provided the following link: http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups I would wear some of the more conservative styles, but I am afraid I would have to buy them at Goodwill. Maybe Beverly Hills has a goodwill store I could visit. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Dan Penoff: Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I actually bought a pair of AE at Goodwill because I was thinking about selling them on EBAY. I bet there could be a good market for premium used shoes. The pair I bought is a 10.5. That must be the most popular men's size, because after buying that pair, I have found several other AE's at Goodwill/Salvation Army and they are all 10 or 10.5. I wear 11.5 or 12. :( Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Need propane heater for my garage
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Northern Tools has some awesome sales on space heaters. I like the convenience of propane and will only be heating the garage to keep my heirloom tomato seedlings toasty during their vulnerable time. Any recommendations? What do propane and electricity cost you? Propane in 20lb cans has to be way more expensive than electric. 3413 btu per kWh and about 91,500 btu per gallon of propane. At 4.24 pounds per gallon, if they actually put 20 instead of 16-17 lb in a 20 lb, you're only getting 4.7 gallons. If 20lb of propane costs more than 125 kWh of electricity, buy electric space heaters, they're cheaper and safer (but they don't make CO2 and moisture for the plants). If you're running propane from a bulk tank, a gallon of propane is worth about 27 kWh. In my case, 2.20 with tax for bulk propane is 40% cheaper than $.135 per kWh for electric. Most of those space heaters will be close to 100% efficient if they don't have a flue venting to the outdoors, but they will also give off corrosive exhaust, so if you have tools or cars in the garage... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Charging issue!
OK, I've seem some weird $hit but this one takes the cake: Yesterday, I changed my battery. The old one didn't appear to charge well for the past month or so. It left me stranded two days ago about a mile from my house. Luckily, I had a booster pack which got me going. I drove it home one mile and didn't expect it to start the next am so I put in a new battery. My car started in 5 degree temps. I then drove it to Maine as explained in yesterday's post. The lights started dimming towards the end of the trip. I parked it in my driveway and didn't expect it to start. I got a battery charger all ready to go but figured that I'd check the voltage across the posts with a voltmeter. It read 15V! Confused, I turned on the headlights and they were super bright. I then proceeded to start the car in 10 degree weather. It started right up! I then put the voltmeter across the terminals and the readings jumped around. 17V, then 11V and then the voltage would cycle up and down. I put the headlights on and it started dropping down to 7V, I turned them off and it climbed up to 10V. I waited for it to climb up to 12.5 them shut off the car. Now it won't start and the voltage cycles up and down from 10.5V to 12.5V. Out of curiosity, I tested the old battery in my trunk and it reads a steady 12.5V! What is going on here!!! I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Need propane heater for my garage
There's also the two birds, one stone approach. Instead of heating the whole garage with a space heater, why not build a box around the plants and heat it with grow lights? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
$464.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
OUCH!!! I think I like my 14 wheels a whole lot better now! On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: $464.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! Danger, Will Robinson! This sounds suspiciously like a battery with a cracked busbar in it, where plates are dropping offline and coming back on at their whim. That is a battery explosion waiting to happen, if so. We had one, but it was an SL so the damage was contained. (Plastic battery box in the trunk. I was able to glue it back together.) Recycle it, and don't look back. Then check out your alternator and regulator. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Yeah... I've had batteries fail internally where voltage was all over the place. But this is his 2nd battery? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! Danger, Will Robinson! This sounds suspiciously like a battery with a cracked busbar in it, where plates are dropping offline and coming back on at their whim. That is a battery explosion waiting to happen, if so. We had one, but it was an SL so the damage was contained. (Plastic battery box in the trunk. I was able to glue it back together.) Recycle it, and don't look back. Then check out your alternator and regulator. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spray on chrome
Impressive. Check out SpectraChrome as well. Mike On Jan 1, 2013 12:33 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-1cTpSZ1l8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
Yeah. And gold was $35 an ounce. Does that say more about commodities or the value of a dollar? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17 When mine was new, regular was often 21 cents per gallon, and I could fill up my Olds 88 for $4. Now I get dinged for $60 a week if I'm lucky and don't drive the TE. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Dan Penoff: Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I actually bought a pair of AE at Goodwill because I was thinking about selling them on EBAY. I bet there could be a good market for premium used shoes. The pair I bought is a 10.5. That must be the most popular men's size, because after buying that pair, I have found several other AE's at Goodwill/Salvation Army and they are all 10 or 10.5. I wear 11.5 or 12. :( Donald H. Snook Lots of Allen-Edmonds shoes on Ebay; $75 up. Click Allen Edmonds shoes Ebay on Bing. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Rich wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? Sorry no waltzing. I did date a woman in college that was a dance instructor. She tried to teach me to dance. Never was very good. Perhaps it was because I was 19 year old kid and ballroom dancing didn't seem very cool. Gerry provided the following link: http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups I would wear some of the more conservative styles, but I am afraid I would have to buy them at Goodwill. Maybe Beverly Hills has a goodwill store I could visit. Donald H. Snook ___ Goodwill is too expensive for me, but I'll keep my eye open for Guccis at the Salvation Army Store and the Florida Sheriffs Boys Ranch Store and let you know. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com OK, I've seem some weird $hit but this one takes the cake: Yesterday, I changed my battery. The old one didn't appear to charge well for the past month or so. It left me stranded two days ago about a mile from my house. Luckily, I had a booster pack which got me going. I drove it home one mile and didn't expect it to start the next am so I put in a new battery. My car started in 5 degree temps. I then drove it to Maine as explained in yesterday's post. The lights started dimming towards the end of the trip. I parked it in my driveway and didn't expect it to start. I got a battery charger all ready to go but figured that I'd check the voltage across the posts with a voltmeter. It read 15V! Confused, I turned on the headlights and they were super bright. I then proceeded to start the car in 10 degree weather. It started right up! I then put the voltmeter across the terminals and the readings jumped around. 17V, then 11V and then the voltage would cycle up and down. I put the headlights on and it started dropping down to 7V, I turned them off and it climbed up to 10V. I waited for it to climb up to 12.5 them shut off the car. Now it won't start and the voltage cycles up and down from 10.5V to 12.5V. Out of curiosity, I tested the old battery in my trunk and it reads a steady 12.5V! What is going on here!!! I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! ... IIRC if the grounding strap from the engine to the frame is making poor contact, the ground circuit can take a roundabout path through the transmission, etc to the alternator? Seem to remember a problem like that years ago that caused similar symptoms. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091228185446AAs2gOo Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
I had a similar problem recently.I am almost ashamed to say that the alternator was loose enough, not the belt, the lower alternator bolt was loose and apparently there was some play in there so it wiggled around enough to make an intermittent ground. I replaced a battery only to have it dead the next time I was on a long trip at night. Tightened up slop in alternator bracket with a washer and been good since. Mike On Jan 4, 2013 8:11 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: OK, I've seem some weird $hit but this one takes the cake: Yesterday, I changed my battery. The old one didn't appear to charge well for the past month or so. It left me stranded two days ago about a mile from my house. Luckily, I had a booster pack which got me going. I drove it home one mile and didn't expect it to start the next am so I put in a new battery. My car started in 5 degree temps. I then drove it to Maine as explained in yesterday's post. The lights started dimming towards the end of the trip. I parked it in my driveway and didn't expect it to start. I got a battery charger all ready to go but figured that I'd check the voltage across the posts with a voltmeter. It read 15V! Confused, I turned on the headlights and they were super bright. I then proceeded to start the car in 10 degree weather. It started right up! I then put the voltmeter across the terminals and the readings jumped around. 17V, then 11V and then the voltage would cycle up and down. I put the headlights on and it started dropping down to 7V, I turned them off and it climbed up to 10V. I waited for it to climb up to 12.5 them shut off the car. Now it won't start and the voltage cycles up and down from 10.5V to 12.5V. Out of curiosity, I tested the old battery in my trunk and it reads a steady 12.5V! What is going on here!!! I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Need propane heater for my garage
Mitch Haley wrote: There's also the two birds, one stone approach. Instead of heating the whole garage with a space heater, why not build a box around the plants and heat it with grow lights? And a little solar energy? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I just checked the web site, looks like a standard recraft is now $125, with the prestige package priced at $150. Makes the distressed gray McTavish look like a real bargain at $147 shipped. I wonder if they'd be willing to sell me a clearance shoe in 11.5B/9.5D? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
IME in almost every case it is the voltage regulator/brushes module that is bad. At $20-30 and about 15 minutes of work it is a piece of cake. Out of all the times I have gone through this with my 123s and 126s, only once did I have to put in a new (used) alternator. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
SWMBO is the flip-flop maven in our household, and she swears that the only good ones are found in Hawaii. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair No experience or knowledge of them. For sandals or flip flop hybrids I go with Chacos. I got 4-5 years out of the last pair wearing them all summer long and using them for hiking, etc. Very comfortable. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79TD300@constructivi ty.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archi ve/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz. comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz. com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comh ttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comht tp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! Gerry Archer wrote: IIRC if the grounding strap from the engine to the frame is making poor contact, the ground circuit can take a roundabout path through the transmission, etc to the alternator? Seem to remember a problem like that years ago that caused similar symptoms. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091228185446AAs2gOo Michael Canfield wrote: ...the alternator was loose enough, not the belt, the lower alternator bolt was loose and apparently there was some play in there so it wiggled around enough to make an intermittent ground. You both seemed to missing that dseretakis got wild measurements _while_the_engine_was_off_!! That cannot be grounds, or alternator bolt, or voltage regulator. It has to be a bad battery. As Jim said - replace it!!! If it's new, return it. It is an explosion hazard. When a lead-acid battery is changed, it will give off hydrogen, and a loose connection inside can spark. Hydrogen + spark = BANG! (well, strictly speaking there needs to be oxygen too, but that's pretty hard to avoid...) -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
My shoe guy down here does a full recraft with German leather soles for $100. I like the German leather soles, as they seem to wear better/longer than the soles that A-E uses for their recrafting. Wow! $125 for a recraft! They must be short on beer money up there. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I just checked the web site, looks like a standard recraft is now $125, with the prestige package priced at $150. Makes the distressed gray McTavish look like a real bargain at $147 shipped. I wonder if they'd be willing to sell me a clearance shoe in 11.5B/9.5D? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
When I installed the battery the negative clamp was difficult to get onto the pole. I tapped lightly with a hammer. Could this have damaged the battery? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! Gerry Archer wrote: IIRC if the grounding strap from the engine to the frame is making poor contact, the ground circuit can take a roundabout path through the transmission, etc to the alternator? Seem to remember a problem like that years ago that caused similar symptoms. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091228185446AAs2gOo Michael Canfield wrote: ...the alternator was loose enough, not the belt, the lower alternator bolt was loose and apparently there was some play in there so it wiggled around enough to make an intermittent ground. You both seemed to missing that dseretakis got wild measurements _while_the_engine_was_off_!! That cannot be grounds, or alternator bolt, or voltage regulator. It has to be a bad battery. As Jim said - replace it!!! If it's new, return it. It is an explosion hazard. When a lead-acid battery is changed, it will give off hydrogen, and a loose connection inside can spark. Hydrogen + spark = BANG! (well, strictly speaking there needs to be oxygen too, but that's pretty hard to avoid...) -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair now BOOTS
I have owned and worn many decent boots (Dunham, Redwing, Justin, and others) over the decades, but have never encountered better quality and comfort than Danner Boots. I have given a few pair to my sons, and recently saw that one of my sons has gone and bought his own pair, notwithstanding he is a starving student. They are made in the USA, right across the river from me in Portland, OR. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: OK, I've seem some weird $hit but this one takes the cake: Yesterday, I changed my battery. The old one didn't appear to charge well for the past month or so. It left me stranded two days ago about a mile from my house. Luckily, I had a booster pack which got me going. I drove it home one mile and didn't expect it to start the next am so I put in a new battery. My car started in 5 degree temps. I then drove it to Maine as explained in yesterday's post. The lights started dimming towards the end of the trip. I parked it in my driveway and didn't expect it to start. I got a battery charger all ready to go but figured that I'd check the voltage across the posts with a voltmeter. It read 15V! Confused, I turned on the headlights and they were super bright. I then proceeded to start the car in 10 degree weather. It started right up! I then put the voltmeter across the terminals and the readings jumped around. 17V, then 11V and then the voltage would cycle up and down. I put the headlights on and it started dropping down to 7V, I turned them off and it climbed up to 10V. I waited for it to climb up to 12.5 them shut off the car. Now it won't start and the voltage cycles up and down from 10.5V to 12.5V. Out of curiosity, I tested the old battery in my trunk and it reads a steady 12.5V! What is going on here!!! I understand that the voltage regulator could be faulty but why would the voltage cycle up and down with the car off! And why was the battery overcharged this am even though the lights were dim when I shut the car off last night!! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
I remember my sister buying five gallons of gasoline for a dollar, but that was during the 1930s. Gerry From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Yeah. And gold was $35 an ounce. Does that say more about commodities or the value of a dollar? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17 When mine was new, regular was often 21 cents per gallon, and I could fill up my Olds 88 for $4. Now I get dinged for $60 a week if I'm lucky and don't drive the TE. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5509 - Release Date: 01/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Need propane heater for my garage
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: There's also the two birds, one stone approach. Instead of heating the whole garage with a space heater, why not build a box around the plants and heat it with grow lights? Or, make a generating wheel for the dogs/kids to run at night. You get the generated electricity, their body heat, and the heat output from the composting of their waste to warm the area; they get outdoor-style exercise and valuable experience for a career in government. ...On a more serious note, who goes around killing birds anyway? And, it's not like stones are rare - why does it matter how many were used? Thanks, Tim walking the banned line... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: IME in almost every case it is the voltage regulator/brushes module that is bad. At $20-30 and about 15 minutes of work it is a piece of cake. Out of all the times I have gone through this with my 123s and 126s, only once did I have to put in a new (used) alternator. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll Okay, I've got to ask how you keep coming upon these. It seems like every time I turn around you have a new car, low miles, great condition mechanically, where the owner just died and you were able to pick it up for a song. Do you troll obits or have a wise uncle or something? On the other hand, forget I asked. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
I remember that it was .18 to .23/gal early to mid forties and .24 to .26 early to mid fifties; in .30's in 1960's and in shock when it went to .47 in '73 or so. In '50/'51, I'd drive brother's '49 Ford all week for $1.00 (He had been re-called to Army; I was junior/senior in high school; very generous and kind brother had left car in my care, which I did very well, thank you - no kidding, I did, and he was well pleased when he returned.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17 I remember my sister buying five gallons of gasoline for a dollar, but that was during the 1930s. Gerry From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Yeah. And gold was $35 an ounce. Does that say more about commodities or the value of a dollar? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17 When mine was new, regular was often 21 cents per gallon, and I could fill up my Olds 88 for $4. Now I get dinged for $60 a week if I'm lucky and don't drive the TE. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5509 - Release Date: 01/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll Okay, I've got to ask how you keep coming upon these. I'd like to know that too!? My guess is, in the New York City area, there are a lot of older, wealthier, people that don't drive much, and when they retire or expire, they or their heirs dispose of things no longer needed. Jaime, having lived in this area much, if not all of his life, has an inside track to these cars. That and the law of attraction at work. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
On the 123s and 126s the key for me was a small offset ratchet screwdriver. On my back for only about 10 minutes. I can't imagine to RR the alternator would be faster or easier. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Yes or Yes --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Flaps a no go so far. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes or Yes --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
NAPA? If not, call Q. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Flaps a no go so far. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes or Yes --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Strangely I'm the opposite, mine almost always require an alternator. BTW about 100 miles on the '84 190D's replacement alternator and apparently I got the spacing right to keep the belt okay. I did stop and get a new belt before heading to the airport for my latest trip. I worried that if I didn't I'd be stranded but if I did there would of course be no problem. This time I decided to go with discretion... -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:15:15 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: 0eff01cdeaaf$d469eae0$7d3dc0a0$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii IME in almost every case it is the voltage regulator/brushes module that is bad. At $20-30 and about 15 minutes of work it is a piece of cake. Out of all the times I have gone through this with my 123s and 126s, only once did I have to put in a new (used) alternator. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
Thats right Rick, there are just lots of these cars around here if you know where to look. This car found me... a friend of a friend put me in contact with the seller. He never advertised it, just word of mouth. Oddly enough, its a few blocks from where my 79 300SD was living its whole life, and across the street was a perfect W201 with blue NJ plate sitting in a car port. Looks like the folks in that town were really into their MBs in the 70s and 80s. But keep in mind theres a huge amount of junk out there and most cars aren't even worth looking at. And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. I don't enjoy undoing lots of clown-mechanic repairs, like the ones found on a 280C I worked on all day today. Jaime On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll Okay, I've got to ask how you keep coming upon these. I'd like to know that too!? My guess is, in the New York City area, there are a lot of older, wealthier, people that don't drive much, and when they retire or expire, they or their heirs dispose of things no longer needed. Jaime, having lived in this area much, if not all of his life, has an inside track to these cars. That and the law of attraction at work. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I think I mentioned buying a Made-in-the-USA pair of Redwings about 2 years ago. Best dammed boots I've ever had. Like somebody else said no break in time at all, super comfortable right out of the box. Last year I bought a pair of Made in Italy hiking boots at LL Bean. They're not bad but they're serious hiking boots not the tall sneakers I usually wear. They're taking FOREVER to break in and they're heavy but have excellent support and are warm when needed and cool when not. Expensive but if they last several years they'll be worth it. -Curt From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Friday afternoon sucks for ordering parts you need NOW. Try the dealer. Although I must say that Q had parts to me on Saturday morning, but I ordered them by 3pm on Friday. Good luck, Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:27 PM, OK Don wrote: NAPA? If not, call Q. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Flaps a no go so far. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes or Yes --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Heaters
I have 2 propane heaters for sale in CT, where I live. Changed to natural gas. One is vented, the other not. The smaller is 15000-2000 BTU not vented and the other 3 BTU vented. Smaller heated my house garage with 3.5 cars and the larger in my 5 car size garage. Burt Anderson Car Nut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Having just done this I think the ease of removal on a 123 involves 2 factors: 1. Tensioning device 2. Presence of salt on the roads (and driving the car in said salt) My '78 240D has the older gear type tensioning device and it was an absolute bugger to get the bolt out, I think the presence of salt made that worse. OTOH my '84 190D was super duper easy. Remove the belt and wiring (pull the negative battery cable first!) pull 2, drop out alternator, put in new alternator and assuming they're exactly the same (mine was NOT) its two bolts back in, belt back on, wiring, ground cable and you're done. The lack of pivoting on the 190D alternator makes the bolts easier... -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:50:52 -0500 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: CAEfEgZMY8h2XzNAPr7GDrFn5O-ymyGbiZ=nyxy6a27zehpb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
My house? I've got a couple spares... Rusty definitely. FLAPS maybe. Be sure you need it first, I'd concur you've got a battery issue. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:59:50 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: 011888d2-458b-42c1-bdf0-72b195d7f...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. I have one or two cars that have been parked for a while. I also come across cars that have been parked for long periods for sale. What needs attention and what should be looked at when preparing a long sitting auto for return to service? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Ok all. So it looks like both a 55A and 65A alternator is available for 1982. Anyone know which one is on my car-82 240D? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:27 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: NAPA? If not, call Q. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Flaps a no go so far. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes or Yes --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
How far away are you? I'm in Arlington. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My house? I've got a couple spares... Rusty definitely. FLAPS maybe. Be sure you need it first, I'd concur you've got a battery issue. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:59:50 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: 011888d2-458b-42c1-bdf0-72b195d7f...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Where do I get the VR/brush assembly? FLAPS, Rusty? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Salt. Definitely. Snapped a bolt just taking off those battery hold down clamps. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Having just done this I think the ease of removal on a 123 involves 2 factors: 1. Tensioning device 2. Presence of salt on the roads (and driving the car in said salt) My '78 240D has the older gear type tensioning device and it was an absolute bugger to get the bolt out, I think the presence of salt made that worse. OTOH my '84 190D was super duper easy. Remove the belt and wiring (pull the negative battery cable first!) pull 2, drop out alternator, put in new alternator and assuming they're exactly the same (mine was NOT) its two bolts back in, belt back on, wiring, ground cable and you're done. The lack of pivoting on the 190D alternator makes the bolts easier... -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:50:52 -0500 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: CAEfEgZMY8h2XzNAPr7GDrFn5O-ymyGbiZ=nyxy6a27zehpb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
It used to be like that around here to some extent. All of the blue hairs that would come down here to die would have a nice old MB sitting in the garage. When I do see these (and I watch the local CL pretty closely) any more they seem to have unrealistic expectations as to the cars value. I don't know where they are getting their number, or if they're just pulling them out of the air, but it seems like if it's a vintage MB, it's suddenly priceless. There is a guy down here who has a pretty nice early 70s 280S (not SE) that thinks it's worth $14k because he bought it from the estate of the original owner and it only has 80k on it. Granted, it's a nice car, but it has some wear and minor mechanical issues that he isn't willing to address because he thinks it's a perfect vintage automobile. Yeah, right. I talked to him a few months ago about the car, even took a quick look a it. I could tell the way he talked he thought he struck the mother lode with this one. I didn't bother to offer any critiques, I just left. It's still popping up on CL about every two weeks or so - at the same price. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Thats right Rick, there are just lots of these cars around here if you know where to look. This car found me... a friend of a friend put me in contact with the seller. He never advertised it, just word of mouth. Oddly enough, its a few blocks from where my 79 300SD was living its whole life, and across the street was a perfect W201 with blue NJ plate sitting in a car port. Looks like the folks in that town were really into their MBs in the 70s and 80s. But keep in mind theres a huge amount of junk out there and most cars aren't even worth looking at. And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. I don't enjoy undoing lots of clown-mechanic repairs, like the ones found on a 280C I worked on all day today. Jaime On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll Okay, I've got to ask how you keep coming upon these. I'd like to know that too!? My guess is, in the New York City area, there are a lot of older, wealthier, people that don't drive much, and when they retire or expire, they or their heirs dispose of things no longer needed. Jaime, having lived in this area much, if not all of his life, has an inside track to these cars. That and the law of attraction at work. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:55:19 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok all. So it looks like both a 55A and 65A alternator is available for 1982. Anyone know which one is on my car-82 240D? On Rusty's website, http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1982-Mercedes--benz-240d-Engine--Electricalyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40Mercedes-Benzmodelid=6142%3AED|1129%3AMBC|1489%40%40240Dcatid=240798%40%40Engine says 55 A and 65 A. Clicking on the 55 A alternator link takes one to http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=yearid=1982@@1982makeid=63@@Mercedes-Benzmodelid=6142%3AED|1129%3AMBC|1489@@240Dcatid=240798@@Engine which has a 60 A and a 74 A alternator. The description of the 74 A alternator says, This Bosch alternator has an internal voltage regulator, but it will replace the alternator on some applications that use an external regulator by bypassing the existing external regulator. See Application Notice #B-23 in the Bosch reman catalog for more information. MB discontinued using the old 55 amp alternators on the Turbo motors in fav or of the 65 amp alternators. ;74 Amp; It appears that the 74 A alternator would be a viable alternative at $152.38, but the 60 A alternator at $115.00 seems viable, too. The best bet is to call Rusty (1-800-741-5252) on Monday, or hope he chimes in over the weekend. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
I can recall in the late 60s it was as low as $0.19/gallon, as I can recall filling up my Mom's Opel Kadett at the local gas station. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: I remember that it was .18 to .23/gal early to mid forties and .24 to .26 early to mid fifties; in .30's in 1960's and in shock when it went to .47 in '73 or so. In '50/'51, I'd drive brother's '49 Ford all week for $1.00 (He had been re-called to Army; I was junior/senior in high school; very generous and kind brother had left car in my care, which I did very well, thank you - no kidding, I did, and he was well pleased when he returned.) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:56:51 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: How far away are you? I'm in Arlington. Curt is in northern Massachusetts. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
I've done it on coupla 123's; found it very easy in place. Wilton - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. On the 123s and 126s the key for me was a small offset ratchet screwdriver. On my back for only about 10 minutes. I can't imagine to RR the alternator would be faster or easier. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Winchendon, 'bout 60 miles. We could do breakfast, I've met Fred in Ayer several times. Maybe he and Luke are up for breakfast? -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:56:51 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: d8754915-861c-489c-b630-42b32bb35...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii How far away are you? I'm in Arlington. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My house? I've got a couple spares... Rusty definitely. FLAPS maybe. Be sure you need it first, I'd concur you've got a battery issue. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
Once someone is trying to resell, its already too expensive. I've found that unreasonably high prices are usually taken care of with time, and a lower offer. When nobody else shows up to look at the car for a few weeks or months, it helps. Unfortunately, I'm unable to buy cars of any real value from estates or private sellers. Anytime a decent pagoda comes on the market, one of the big NY resellers or a restoration house buys it sight unseen. I called about two cars in the last few months and found them sold in a few hours. Its really upsetting... these big guys make it hard for the enthusiasts to buy a nicer car. Jaime On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It used to be like that around here to some extent. All of the blue hairs that would come down here to die would have a nice old MB sitting in the garage. When I do see these (and I watch the local CL pretty closely) any more they seem to have unrealistic expectations as to the cars value. I don't know where they are getting their number, or if they're just pulling them out of the air, but it seems like if it's a vintage MB, it's suddenly priceless. There is a guy down here who has a pretty nice early 70s 280S (not SE) that thinks it's worth $14k because he bought it from the estate of the original owner and it only has 80k on it. Granted, it's a nice car, but it has some wear and minor mechanical issues that he isn't willing to address because he thinks it's a perfect vintage automobile. Yeah, right. I talked to him a few months ago about the car, even took a quick look a it. I could tell the way he talked he thought he struck the mother lode with this one. I didn't bother to offer any critiques, I just left. It's still popping up on CL about every two weeks or so - at the same price. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Thats right Rick, there are just lots of these cars around here if you know where to look. This car found me... a friend of a friend put me in contact with the seller. He never advertised it, just word of mouth. Oddly enough, its a few blocks from where my 79 300SD was living its whole life, and across the street was a perfect W201 with blue NJ plate sitting in a car port. Looks like the folks in that town were really into their MBs in the 70s and 80s. But keep in mind theres a huge amount of junk out there and most cars aren't even worth looking at. And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. I don't enjoy undoing lots of clown-mechanic repairs, like the ones found on a 280C I worked on all day today. Jaime On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll Okay, I've got to ask how you keep coming upon these. I'd like to know that too!? My guess is, in the New York City area, there are a lot of older, wealthier, people that don't drive much, and when they retire or expire, they or their heirs dispose of things no longer needed. Jaime, having lived in this area much, if not all of his life, has an inside track to these cars. That and the law of attraction at work. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
I don't know if they still do it, but MB of Tampa would occasionally have one of these cars on their used lot. I don't know if they were consigning them or just bought them outright, but as one might imagine, the prices were pretty stupid. And they did sell, believe it or not. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Once someone is trying to resell, its already too expensive. I've found that unreasonably high prices are usually taken care of with time, and a lower offer. When nobody else shows up to look at the car for a few weeks or months, it helps. Unfortunately, I'm unable to buy cars of any real value from estates or private sellers. Anytime a decent pagoda comes on the market, one of the big NY resellers or a restoration house buys it sight unseen. I called about two cars in the last few months and found them sold in a few hours. Its really upsetting... these big guys make it hard for the enthusiasts to buy a nicer car. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars
It really depends on what kind of car, how long its been sitting, and in what type of conditions it was stored. My 450SLC 5.0 was a pretty extreme case, having been sitting 10+ years. It was important that it was stored in a dry place. That is, looking under the valve covers showed no rust at all. Just oily surfaces. If you see rust, its bad, might be junk. Heres a short (and probably incomplete list of what was done): 1) Replace complete fuel system, everything: used fuel tank, new pump, filter, accumulator, all hoses at tank and engine, rebuilt fuel distributor, rebuilt warm up regulator, new injectors. Blow out and flush solid lines. 2) Remove plugs, put some oil in cylinders, and make sure engine can rotate by hand. You may want to soak, etc here. 3) With fresh oil and filter, and plugs still out, crank engine with starter to build oil pressure. Best done without fuel pump running. 4) Install new plugs, if ignition looks questionable, replace everything. 5) Start engine. 6) Do some basic tuning, it should run pretty well at this point. Now identify everything else you need to do. From here: replace all fluids (trans, PS, diff, coolant). All brakes, including hoses. Then you can drive the car a bit and see what else you need to do. The point is to replace everything so the car is reliable and you're not chasing gremlins for months or years. Its extreme, I know. I've found that if stored correctly, they can come back to life very nicely. Whats important is that things didn't start to rust, seize, or get stuck. I also don't bother with cars with higher mileage. A car needs to be pretty special for one reason or another to warrant this kind of attention. My 1967 300SEL was worse than the 450SLC 5.0, but came back just as well. I also had to do air suspension stuff, free up the injection pump, and deal with damage from mice. But its a really cool car with 53k documented miles, well worth the effort. Still loads of work to do on this one. Jaime On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. I have one or two cars that have been parked for a while. I also come across cars that have been parked for long periods for sale. What needs attention and what should be looked at when preparing a long sitting auto for return to service? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Yes. I read all that on his site but it still doesn't give me a definitive answer. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:55:19 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok all. So it looks like both a 55A and 65A alternator is available for 1982. Anyone know which one is on my car-82 240D? On Rusty's website, http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1982-Mercedes--benz-240d-Engine--Electricalyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40Mercedes-Benzmodelid=6142%3AED|1129%3AMBC|1489%40%40240Dcatid=240798%40%40Engine says 55 A and 65 A. Clicking on the 55 A alternator link takes one to http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=yearid=1982@@1982makeid=63@@Mercedes-Benzmodelid=6142%3AED|1129%3AMBC|1489@@240Dcatid=240798@@Engine which has a 60 A and a 74 A alternator. The description of the 74 A alternator says, This Bosch alternator has an internal voltage regulator, but it will replace the alternator on some applications that use an external regulator by bypassing the existing external regulator. See Application Notice #B-23 in the Bosch reman catalog for more information. MB discontinued using the old 55 amp alternators on the Turbo motors in fav or of the 65 amp alternators. ;74 Amp; It appears that the 74 A alternator would be a viable alternative at $152.38, but the 60 A alternator at $115.00 seems viable, too. The best bet is to call Rusty (1-800-741-5252) on Monday, or hope he chimes in over the weekend. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Sure. Sounds like a plan. When 'n where? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Winchendon, 'bout 60 miles. We could do breakfast, I've met Fred in Ayer several times. Maybe he and Luke are up for breakfast? -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:56:51 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Message-ID: d8754915-861c-489c-b630-42b32bb35...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii How far away are you? I'm in Arlington. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My house? I've got a couple spares... Rusty definitely. FLAPS maybe. Be sure you need it first, I'd concur you've got a battery issue. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
I remember my sister buying five gallons of gasoline for a dollar, but that was during the 1930s. Gerry I bought over 5 gal of gasoline for a buck in the 70s, but gold was still $35 then and a buck was still a buck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Porsches
Neurologist at Duke Hospital told me today that he viewed 50 (yep, that's FIFTY) perfect, showroom, etc., Porsches few days ago in a warehouse in Durham. Models range from one of hand-built 10 in 1948 with outer sheet metal mounted on wood frame (only one the owner doesn't drive). Neurologist said he doesn't know where owner got his money; I chimed in, You sure he's not a neurologist? I told 'im to let owner know that I may be available to keep one for 'im on rotation bass to exercise occasionally. One per week would work for me. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:07:56 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I can recall in the late 60s it was as low as $0.19/gallon, as I can recall filling up my Mom's Opel Kadett at the local gas station. I got diesel in Wyoming in 1972 for my newly purchased '72 220D/8 for $0.189/gallon. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Greg wrote: IME in almost every case it is the voltage regulator/brushes module that is bad. At $20-30 and about 15 minutes of work it is a piece of cake. Out of all the times I have gone through this with my 123s and 126s, only once did I have to put in a new (used) alternator. dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? On a W123, generally no. But a turbo makes things kinda tight. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: but gold was still $35 then and a buck was still a buck. A buck lost any relevance to anything, when Nixon took the US off of the gold standard in 1969. I am currently reading a book (essay?) called Fiat Money Inflation In France, and juxtaposed against what's going on in this country currently, well, it ain't pretty. Sorry to be political. That book is public domain and available for free, by the way. It is probably as much of a must read as The Law by Frederick Bastiat (sp). Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 19:01:07 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) You'll probably want to put it on a charger, so it doesn't freeze when the temperatures drop. We had 0.9 deg.F. in New Mexico this morning. Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. That sounds like a good idea. When you said you were in Arlington, I replied that Curt was in northern Massachusetts thinking you were in Arlington, Virginia, a little too far to go for a voltage regulator. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
My wife wore a pair of LL Bean made in Italy hiking boots after she broke an ankle - they were the only shoe/boot that eliminated pain. SHe wore them as her every-day shoes with the exception of special dress-up events (few and far between for us) for six or seven years. Finally the uppers started seperating from the soles, so she bought another pair. She loves them. I don't wear mine that often as we haven't hiked in the mountains that much recently (hopefully that will change soon), but I expect that they will last the rest of my life. However, they do require some break-in, they are quite stiff at first. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think I mentioned buying a Made-in-the-USA pair of Redwings about 2 years ago. Best dammed boots I've ever had. Like somebody else said no break in time at all, super comfortable right out of the box. Last year I bought a pair of Made in Italy hiking boots at LL Bean. They're not bad but they're serious hiking boots not the tall sneakers I usually wear. They're taking FOREVER to break in and they're heavy but have excellent support and are warm when needed and cool when not. Expensive but if they last several years they'll be worth it. -Curt -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Glad you made it. Thanks again for getting me the old Star. Good move on keeping GF warm. Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:01 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
IIRC, the 240D had the 55A alternator - why waste power pushing electrons around that you don't need? The cars with more electrical accesories got larger capacity alternators. They won't hurt, but it's unlikely that you need any more than 55A. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes. I read all that on his site but it still doesn't give me a definitive answer. Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Your welcome. Hope it helps! Now about keeping the GF happy, had to stop at Crate 'n Barrel outlet in Kittery to pick up some kitchen island thing. Went inside bought it, put the marble top in the back seat and strapped the legs to the roof rack with ratchet straps all while the car was idling- couldn't shut it off! See, I dis-obliged myself from all the shenanigans I pulled over the past couple days. Funny how quickly her mood improved once the stupid island was in the car:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Glad you made it. Thanks again for getting me the old Star. Good move on keeping GF warm. Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:01 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Oh Dude...Megan says Good Man! You better make sure that the adjective 'stupid' never, ever comes to your lips when describing the island again! Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Your welcome. Hope it helps! Now about keeping the GF happy, had to stop at Crate 'n Barrel outlet in Kittery to pick up some kitchen island thing. Went inside bought it, put the marble top in the back seat and strapped the legs to the roof rack with ratchet straps all while the car was idling- couldn't shut it off! See, I dis-obliged myself from all the shenanigans I pulled over the past couple days. Funny how quickly her mood improved once the stupid island was in the car:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Glad you made it. Thanks again for getting me the old Star. Good move on keeping GF warm. Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:01 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
Haha. Yeah I'll be kind to the island from now on. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Oh Dude...Megan says Good Man! You better make sure that the adjective 'stupid' never, ever comes to your lips when describing the island again! Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:59 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Your welcome. Hope it helps! Now about keeping the GF happy, had to stop at Crate 'n Barrel outlet in Kittery to pick up some kitchen island thing. Went inside bought it, put the marble top in the back seat and strapped the legs to the roof rack with ratchet straps all while the car was idling- couldn't shut it off! See, I dis-obliged myself from all the shenanigans I pulled over the past couple days. Funny how quickly her mood improved once the stupid island was in the car:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Glad you made it. Thanks again for getting me the old Star. Good move on keeping GF warm. Jon On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:01 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Thinking about just trying one of Curt's spare VR/brush modules and taking it from there. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts are bad diode(s) in the alternator, grounding the battery. May be worth taking the car to FLAPS so they can test your charging system. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Not when the battery voltage is fluctuating with the engine off. I trust Jim Cathey's analysis. He deals with moving electrons around every day. TO remove any doubt, with the engine off, take off the ground terminal and measure battery voltage across the terminals. If you get the same thing, take the battery back. There still could be an issue with diodes (replace alt.) or brushes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
You don't hurt anything using a larger alternator. I'd go for the 65 or larger. 55 was probably changed to 65 with the MBNA insistence that US model 240Ds were luxury cars and had to have electric winders, sunroof and every other thing they could think of to hang on the US models. I'd go for the 65 or larger. (assuming equal price) IIRC, the 240D had the 55A alternator - why waste power pushing electrons around that you don't need? The cars with more electrical accesories got larger capacity alternators. They won't hurt, but it's unlikely that you need any more than 55A. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
The 65A looks a bit different. Will it fit? Yes it's a bit more money. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: You don't hurt anything using a larger alternator. I'd go for the 65 or larger. 55 was probably changed to 65 with the MBNA insistence that US model 240Ds were luxury cars and had to have electric winders, sunroof and every other thing they could think of to hang on the US models. I'd go for the 65 or larger. (assuming equal price) IIRC, the 240D had the 55A alternator - why waste power pushing electrons around that you don't need? The cars with more electrical accesories got larger capacity alternators. They won't hurt, but it's unlikely that you need any more than 55A. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair now BOOTS
On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have owned and worn many decent boots (Dunham, Redwing, Justin, and others) over the decades, but have never encountered better quality and comfort than Danner Boots. I have heard that before. They are not cheap though. Must be the A-E of the blue collar world. http://m.danner.com/?utm_source=adcenterutm_medium=cpcutm_term=danner%20bootsutm_campaign=Danner%20-%20Branded%20Mobile#product/26614 Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars
On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: The point is to replace everything so the car is reliable and you're not chasing gremlins for months or years. Its extreme, I know. Thanks Jaime. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
If the alternator is old enough to have worn out the brushes you should at least check the bearings if not actually replacing them. Hendrik who has replaced a few bearings On 05/01/13 08:20, Tim C wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the alternator have to come out for this repair? I believe the answer is strictly, no, but personally I think it is easier. Replacing the alternator on a 123 is pretty quick if all the bolts and nuts are good, and you wind up with less time on your back. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Curt, Dimitri. I have a new no name regulator that you can have. Today, 1-4-2013 Friday, I'm in Pittsburgh PA until Sun and will return in late p.m. If you would like it during the week I could mail, or? We could breakfast together next Sat./Sun ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Winchendon, 'bout 60 miles. We could do breakfast, I've met Fred in Ayer several times. Maybe he and Luke are up for breakfast? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Then go with a 55. But still try the brush/regulator set first. Last one I bought was around $17, but that was a while ago. The 65A looks a bit different. Will it fit? Yes it's a bit more money. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair now BOOTS
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 20:23:07 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I have heard that before. They are not cheap though. Must be the A-E of the blue collar world. http://m.danner.com/?utm_source=adcenterutm_medium=cpcutm_term=danner%20bootsutm_campaign=Danner%20-%20Branded%20Mobile#product/26614 Or if you want to see them on your computer, http://www.danner.com Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: And the cars I buy are ones that most people are terrified of: ones that have sat unused for long periods of time. But getting them back into original running condition is what I enjoy doing. Rick Knoble wrote: What needs attention and what should be looked at when preparing a long sitting auto for return to service? Always be suspicious of the brakes. Fluid will absorb water while sitting, rotors rust, calipers seize. Diesel fuel is usually fine sitting for 5+ years. Be wary of algae and water at the bottom of the tank. Look for rodent nests - and chewed wires and hoses. They will chew places other than their nests, but they do seem to chew more near the nest. Then fire 'em up and drive 'em! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Porsches
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:59:33 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I told 'im to let owner know that I may be available to keep one for 'im on rotation bass to exercise occasionally. One per week would work for me. Yeah, I guess it would work for me, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Snapped a bolt just taking off those battery hold down clamps. Ugh. But a battery hold down bolt usually isn't the fault of salt. Battery acid is more corrosive than salt. Everything near the battery is prone to heavy corrosion. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the voltage readings no longer fluctuate. Not sure what was going on. Now it just doesn't charge period. Drove it back from ME to MA today. Started at 12.45 V and ended with 12.08 V after using heater fan a few times to keep the GF warm:) Remember what Jim said? If there is a loose connection in the battery, it is at high risk to explode. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Charging issue!
give off hydrogen, and a loose connection inside can spark. Hydrogen + spark = BANG! (well, strictly speaking there needs to be oxygen too, but that's pretty hard to avoid...) Especially since oxygen is what's coming off the other set of plates in the cell! When I installed the battery the negative clamp was difficult to get onto the pole. I tapped lightly with a hammer. Could this have damaged the battery? If it truly was lightly, probably not. It doesn't take much of a tap to drive on a battery clamp. I prefer wedging it open with a big screwdriver in the flats where the bolt goes. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars
The Frankenheap (115 200D) was pretty simple. By the license plate on it I guessed it had been sitting for 10 years, and it was outside when I saw it. I put a battery in it, and started it. Ran perfectly. Did have to do some work, such as connecting up a cooling system and an alternator, before it was drivable. The heater too, later. I do like a nice little diesel! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was CL moron - now Clay Moron
I can attest to that. Froggy hacked a loogie a few months ago. No start issue that seems to indicate fuel problems. I swapped out a fuel filter and it ran. Once. Decided it was getting cold, so park it until spring. Got a bug after new years, so called the shop. Tow truck drug it a few miles and off they went. Hey, I got a nice summer of driving out of her. Fuel pump failed. Unobtanium Use a newer series pump and kludge a damper, filter, pump set up that requires welding and parts from the Fatherland. I inquire if the pump could be rebuilt. Indy looks at me like I just pooped in his tool drawer. Why would I want obsolete tech and have to find the part again when I can use the newer type? Ok. Still runs like crap. Find out there are molecular depth left to the points and contacts. Shot after 38 years. Put new ones in and adjust. Still not running like he wants. So he looks at the plugs. Yeah, I messed up the install and one was barely three rotations in. Fresh plugs. That was a fix, but not the one he wanted to solve, so out comes the stethoscope. Number three is having a strange tick. Messed up exhaust gasket? Head gasket leaking? Hard to tell. But that does not prove to be the trouble. Start removing plug wires. Hard to tell but looks like number six is not firing or something is off. Pokes around and looks like injector is the problem. Test the lead and it shows power and it is performing. Must be the injector itself. Points out at least one injector has been replaced with newer. SO I have been running on 7 pistons. All spring and summer. Probably been like that for years. FECES! Do the standard web search for just what is supposed to be a replacement part. Then try to source said part. New, these things are up to $230 from around $150 a few years ago. Curses! Hit fleabay. yeah, they know what these things are worth. Offer of new are same as retail, and that is opening bid. Found a guy in Kalifornia who parted an early M117 and put 7 injectors up. Sold five, wants $75 each. I make an offer and get the last two for $100 both. Shipped and should arrive in time for installation when the German parts come in. But why does my indy still look at me like I am a complete idiot and I piss him off that I have an old car? clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Yeah, all the mid 70s stuff is a low point in automotive history. Giant bumpers, lots of smog crap. But a 75 still has more power than a late 450, manual climate control. And D jet gives all sorts of ownership challenges, if you like that sort of thing! Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: What do you dislike about the 75s Dan? If the MB of that era are anything like domestic iron of that era, ugh. Emission controlled, breathless, hp choked, EPA restricted turds they were. IIRC the quickest domestic car in a 1/4 mile acceleration contest wasn't a car at all, it was a Dodge Lil' Red Wagon pickup truck in 1975, or '76. That is part of the good old days I do NOT miss. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT coal powered snow plough
http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1zbme/RADCentralOctober201/resources/40.htm and they can modify just about any engine to run on micronized coal. Didn't Rudolf the red nosed diesel engine builder try the coal dust thingy? Hendrik who would like to see one of these beasties in the metal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was CL moron - now Clay Moron
But why does my indy still look at me like I am a complete idiot and I piss him off that I have an old car? Because you have the wrong Indy? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT a little light reading on injection
http://www.dieselduck.net/historical/05%20documents/History%20of%20fuel%20injection.pdf Hendrik who doesn't understand half of that stuff ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was CL moron - now Clay Moron
Great mechanic. Nice guy, if you do not have car in need of repair. I guess he gets his tights tangled when folks bugger up a perfectly fine car. At least that seems to be the attitude. Views himself as being correct and you brought the car to him to fix, so pipe down and stop breaking the thing. Why are you even driving it? Must you drive it? All you are going to do it break it again. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: But why does my indy still look at me like I am a complete idiot and I piss him off that I have an old car? Because you have the wrong Indy? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
