Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Hendrik and Fay]

I have no evidence either way but stuff made in the EU has to be to a 
standard.
Am trying to think of a case where this may be so, considering that a 
lot of cost is in the actual development of the part, OK lets take Behr 
radiators, the one I bought recently for my TE was made in South Africa, 
now sure they may have a factory there to make second rate radiators and 
have a factory in Germany that makes the good stuff for MB with MB logo 
and part #
Or it could be that they only make that particular radiator in SA now, I 
can' see the economic sense to have two lines making the same part.
Sure maybe the new Behrs are not as good as the old ones but only time 
will tell but I do know it fits perfectly and works perfectly.
I have seen people post pictures of things like filters, which looked 
identical except for the MB logo and of course the price for that logo 
was a bit more.


Anyway I am having a good result with my ATE ceramic pads, lot cleaner.

Hendrik
who was made in the EU but not to a standard

On 13/06/13 13:08, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

It seems they there are cases where the "identical" part made in the same 
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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Hendrik and Fay]

I was going to say Jabba might be dancing on someones grave but I have 
seen a picture of him and dancing is not going to happen, crush the 
coffin perhaps?


Hendrik
who is being a bit nasty

On 13/06/13 09:00, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Gary (Jabba) is still doing good business by me.  I get good stuff when its
promised for good prices.  I recommend him to everyone.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:


Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes
business - no Q, no fun!








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Re: [MBZ] Opine away

[Jim Cathey]

Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her
BMW X5?


Has.  She sez: "I like it."

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

No no no that won't bloody well do at all, I want Col Strickland to fly 
over personally to present me with my distinguished repair medal.

Also know as the 'attaboy medal with oak leaves'

Hendrik
who is organising a parade as we speak

On 13/06/13 04:51, clay wrote:

Well, Hendrik, you are living in the underside and being there have a much 
higher bar than those living in the swaddled first world.  We must applaud any 
positive actions, since it may damage peoples fragile self esteem otherwise.  I 
can send you a nice ribbon if that will make you feel better

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Re: [MBZ] Trent badaboy

[Hendrik and Fay]

Hmmnh me thinks that Trent is not going to get a 'attaboy'

Hendrik
who is kinda glad to not have bought a muffler off Trent

On 13/06/13 03:31, WILTON wrote:
Yep, a pity for all of us.  Just talked to Trent assistant, Peggy; 
'took my # and question, "What is status of my 31 May order?"  'Said 
she'd FAX  info to Trent.  Same drill as yesterday.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[G Mann]

 *Over five thousands years ago, *

 Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your
asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay
down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the
Promised Land."

Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price
of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land!

I was so depressed last night thinking about health care plans, the
ecomomy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds,
etc. I called a sucicide hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was
connected to a call center in Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal. They
got excited and asked if I could drive a truck...

Folks, we're screwed...


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > > Philip wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't miss the Royal Gorge bridge in Colorado - though a brush fire
> > > just made a mess of the buildings...
>
> > Mountan Man wrote:
> >
> > trollthensa.com
>
> Yeah, that's what I though.  But it was about bridges.  I tried to
> just let it pass, but I failed...
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

Yeah right, those things a blind monkey could do with two screwdrivers 
and a hammer, I am talking about a prescion piece of engineering, forged 
in the darkest parts of the black forest by magical elves.
However to show that i am a most generous and giving person I'll give a 
belated attaboy for keeping the war machines flying and them nasty 
commies in their box.


Hendrik
who has seen a B-52 in Darwin but not a B-47

On 13/06/13 01:10, WILTON wrote:
BTW, 'just remembered: I used to have B-47's and jet engines lying all 
over the hanger floor; put 'em back together; worked fine; never got 
an ATTABOY nor decent pay for it.  ;<)


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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

Ahh come on now Wilton you gotta work em hard, otherwise they get time 
to think about redecorating and such.


Hendrik
who is ducking for cover in case Fay reads this

On 13/06/13 01:04, WILTON wrote:

Yes, reluctantly.  BTW, I'll not ask SWMBO.
Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

Ohh no here we go again, it's a M103 engine which needed a new head gasket.

Hendrik
who is hopefully going to get a new vanity for Fay today

On 13/06/13 00:56, Randy Bennell wrote:


Did I miss something? What engine??

Randy

On 12/06/2013 1:53 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I pull an engine apart and put it back together and get nothing, 
someone undoes 4 bolts and swaps a seat in and get standing applause.
Well that's just fine and dandy, perhaps next week I'll attempt to 
put fuel in the car and will be named shade tree mechanic of the year.


Hendrik
who is being in silly mode again





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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

This reminds me of a conversation I overheard at the Governors ball,
Costa the Greek mechanic was speaking to Sir Ian Williams, the famous 
surgeon and it went something like this.
Costa: You know Sir Ian I beena thinking, you know we do pretty much da 
same job, we open da motor, we looka what is broken and den we fixa it. 
But you get the fancy title from da Queen and getts paid de big dollars. 
That's just notta fair you know.
Sir Ian: Well my dear chap, I do agree that there are similarities 
between our professions, however please consider that when I work on a 
'motor' it is running and I would think if you could repair a motor 
while it is running you would be getting suitably rewarded as well.


Hendrik
who has not been to the Governors ball before you all ask

On 13/06/13 00:38, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

At 4:23 PM +0930 6/12/13, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I pull an engine apart and put it back together and get nothing, 
someone undoes 4 bolts and swaps a seat in and get standing applause.


Well, SURE!  Any schlub can rebuild an engine, but we all know how 
much fun removing seats is.


Well that's just fine and dandy, perhaps next week I'll attempt to 
put fuel in the car and will be named shade tree mechanic of the year.


Say, did I ever tell y'all how I amazed a Nobel laureate?

Back in the days when I worked at Drexel, a sandyhaired gent walked 
into my office.  "Hiya, Mitch! What's that?"  "Hi, Alan! Mercedes 
carburetor.  Just rebuilt it."  "Amazing. Never could do that sort of 
thing."  And with that, Alan MacDiarmid, Nobel laureate in Chemistry, 
walked into my boss' office.



Hendrik
who is being in silly mode again


:)

-MMM-





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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[dseretakis]

It seems they there are cases where the "identical" part made in the same 
factory is made to different standards.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Generally they don't, main difference is a MB logo and different part # on 
> the part.
> For instance ATE don't sell good stuff to MB and then have a different 
> factory pushing out blocks of wood.
> 
> Hendrik
> who has lots of parts with MB stars on them
> 
> On 13/06/13 00:31, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I find it interesting that OEM manufacturers have a different standard for 
>> the OE stuff they sell to Mercedes vs the stuff they sell as OEM to us.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[G Mann]

New brakes, you should change out the fluid with new. Brake fluid degrades
with use.

Now is a good time.
Grant...


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> You may be right, I hate to spend all the money on a master cylinder and
> not need to...
>
> I need to get some more fluid and try again. This time I'll buy a quart.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700
> From: G Mann 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Curt,
>
> I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse
> bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc?
>
> Air acts as a "spring" since it can be compressed. If there is a section of
> the brake line what has fluid before the "bubble" and after the bubble
> [like from the master cylinder] that air will compress enough to "feel"
> like you have brake pressure then when released, expand and push the fluid
> back to the master... next peddle push, you start pushing fluid all over
> again..
>
> Suggest you take some fluid out of the master tank and pump from the bleed
> screw again..
> Or, if you have a spare electric fuel pump lying around... attach some barb
> fittings and clear hose to it and let it do the work while you watch the
> master tank for bubbles [you will see them as they are pushed up].
>
> In any case, hope it sorts out for you.
>
> Grant...
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> > Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish
> > I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't.
> >
> > I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's
> help)
> > may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll
> > build pressure and work fine until I release and try again at which point
> > they're back to bottom of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the
> > pedal is bottom of the barrel.
> >
> > I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?
> >
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Hendrik and Fay]

Generally they don't, main difference is a MB logo and different part # 
on the part.
For instance ATE don't sell good stuff to MB and then have a different 
factory pushing out blocks of wood.


Hendrik
who has lots of parts with MB stars on them

On 13/06/13 00:31, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I find it interesting that OEM manufacturers have a different standard for the 
OE stuff they sell to Mercedes vs the stuff they sell as OEM to us.

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[G Mann]

Well.. drat!

Thanks for the follow up Rusty.  You have a national resource that's kept
our old Mercedes going.

The sense of security that great service and good parts [and advice] has
been available has added unmeasurable value to the ownership experience.

For which, we all thank you.


Grant... AZ


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

>
> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was
> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I
> wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have
> bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just
> won't talk to me. Strange but true.
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rich Thomas 
> Sender: "Mercedes" 
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
>
> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
> > So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
> > DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
> > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem,
> having
> >> submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb,
> think
> >> that is BS, but that is it.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> >>>
>  Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
> > I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he
> is
> > unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide
> even
> > minimal customer service.
> >
>  Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you
> if
>  that's the case?
> 
>  Mitch.
> 
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> 
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> >>> However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
> >>> would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website
> asking
> >>> customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

Ahh well that deserves an attaboy back at ya.
However do be careful, that sort of thing can give you a busted back or 
something.


Hendrik
who got a sore back from bending over the engine bay

On 12/06/13 23:37, WILTON wrote:
Well, not quite standing.  Triple ATTABOYS to you Henny.  (A 
super-human feat by someone who does such daily is often overlooked by 
us mere mortals. Such becomes expected routine from someone who does 
it all the time.) Sorry, I've been too engrossed in a mower problem 
and other possibly insignificant crap for several days to keep up with 
the ATTABOY presentations. Consider me severely chastised.   ;<)


BTW, y'all shoulda seen me loading the mower deck (don't know total 
weight, but a PLENTY) onto my trailer by myself yesterday for trip to 
JD dealer.  By judicious use of physics in my favor, I was able to do 
it in spite of the walker interference (During one part of it, walker 
tried to get away from me slightly down slope, but I caught it.).  'Am 
now planning the deck unloading (safely, hopefully) when I return it.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

You know I was just messing around:)

As to where to start, like any job you start by researching it, to make 
sure it's within capabilities.


Hendrik
who did his homework

On 12/06/13 23:29, Darren Marshall wrote:

Ha, well imo that's amazing Hendrick... I wouldn't even know where to start.

((( applause )))

To be fair, and with my mechanical handicap of -2hrs, I'd bet it probably took 
us roughly the same amount of time ;)

Definitely not 4 bolts and a belt, the ramp track was busted on the old seat, 
couldn't get at the back bolts for the life of me.

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

the burned knuckles on the hot exhaust, the frustration of trying to put 
the top timing cover back on..


Hendrik
who is suffering from a cold

On 12/06/13 22:08, Jim Cathey wrote:
I pull an engine apart and put it back together and get nothing, 
someone undoes 4 bolts and swaps a seat in and get standing applause.


Presentation!  Make us feel the wind in the sails, the creak of
the ropes, the hot sun burning down, the lash on your back...

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[Hendrik and Fay]

Oooh yeah, might help if I let you lot know that the job is done.
Even put a new timing chain in.

Hendrik
who forgets stuff

On 12/06/13 20:57, Dieselhead wrote:
I pull an engine apart and put it back together and get nothing, 
someone undoes 4 bolts and swaps a seat in and get standing applause.
Well that's just fine and dandy, perhaps next week I'll attempt to 
put fuel in the car and will be named shade tree mechanic of the year.


Hendrik
who is being in silly mode again



Did you tell us you had the head back on and the engine running? If so 
I missed it.  I heard "off with 'er 'ead" from ya.  But i missed 
"eureka!  It runs agin"


so if ya got er done, ATTAMATE!





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Fmiser]

> > Philip wrote:
> >
> > Don't miss the Royal Gorge bridge in Colorado - though a brush fire
> > just made a mess of the buildings...

> Mountan Man wrote:
> 
> trollthensa.com

Yeah, that's what I though.  But it was about bridges.  I tried to
just let it pass, but I failed...  

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea that won't work. I just figured I could setup a drop ship deal and let it go

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 8:52 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:

> You would have to buy 2k a month, pay by credit card and then ship all the 
> parts. It really isn't feasible. The drop ship program requires even more 
> b/s. I can possibly set up an account but it be a PIA. I'll look at it 
> tomorrow.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. 
> Striplin
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
> 
> Well I am thinking about seeing if it would be feasible to setup an account 
> that would just be a plugin to order online. I am not interested at this time 
> of doing phone orders and all that. It may not be possible but if it is I 
> would set something up with a very low markup.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Rich Thomas 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Rusty for the response, I do appreciate it.  Looks like things are 
>> just not going to work out.
>> 
>> Kleb you need to become a new part of Rusty's Amway network, sell NEW parts 
>> to us all.  Maybe you can win a pink Benz.
>> 
>> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>> 
>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to 
>> order from. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
>>> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I 
>>> wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have 
>>> bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just 
>>> won't talk to me. Strange but true.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rich Thomas 
>>> Sender: "Mercedes" 
>>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
>>> 
>>> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
 So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both 
 ends.  He DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
 
 Mike
 On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" < 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
 
> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, 
> having submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, 
> like Kleb, think that is BS, but that is it.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> 
>> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>> 
>>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>> 
 I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons 
 he is unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling 
 to provide even minimal customer service.
>>> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell 
>>> you if that's the case?
>>> 
>>> Mitch
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Curt Raymond]

You may be right, I hate to spend all the money on a master cylinder and not 
need to...

I need to get some more fluid and try again. This time I'll buy a quart.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700
From: G Mann 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!
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Curt,

I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse
bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc?

Air acts as a "spring" since it can be compressed. If there is a section of
the brake line what has fluid before the "bubble" and after the bubble
[like from the master cylinder] that air will compress enough to "feel"
like you have brake pressure then when released, expand and push the fluid
back to the master... next peddle push, you start pushing fluid all over
again..

Suggest you take some fluid out of the master tank and pump from the bleed
screw again..
Or, if you have a spare electric fuel pump lying around... attach some barb
fittings and clear hose to it and let it do the work while you watch the
master tank for bubbles [you will see them as they are pushed up].

In any case, hope it sorts out for you.

Grant...


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish
> I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't.
>
> I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help)
> may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll
> build pressure and work fine until I release and try again at which point
> they're back to bottom of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the
> pedal is bottom of the barrel.
>
> I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Rusty Cullens]

You would have to buy 2k a month, pay by credit card and then ship all the 
parts. It really isn't feasible. The drop ship program requires even more b/s. 
I can possibly set up an account but it be a PIA. I'll look at it tomorrow.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. 
Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

Well I am thinking about seeing if it would be feasible to setup an account 
that would just be a plugin to order online. I am not interested at this time 
of doing phone orders and all that. It may not be possible but if it is I would 
set something up with a very low markup.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> Thanks Rusty for the response, I do appreciate it.  Looks like things are 
> just not going to work out.
> 
> Kleb you need to become a new part of Rusty's Amway network, sell NEW parts 
> to us all.  Maybe you can win a pink Benz.
> 
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
> Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to 
> order from. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
>> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I 
>> wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have 
>> bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't 
>> talk to me. Strange but true.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rich Thomas 
>> Sender: "Mercedes" 
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
>> 
>> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>>> So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both 
>>> ends.  He DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" < 
>>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>> 
 I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, 
 having submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, 
 like Kleb, think that is BS, but that is it.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 
> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> 
>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons 
>>> he is unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling 
>>> to provide even minimal customer service.
>> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell 
>> you if that's the case?
>> 
>> Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Mountain Man]

--Philip wrote:
> Don't miss the Royal Gorge bridge in Colorado - though a brush fire
> just made a mess of the buildings...

trollthensa.com

mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Fmiser]

> Mountain Man  wrote:
>
> Oh! So I’ve been planning a big trip for the summer. I’m thinking of
> visiting all of the most famous suspension bridges in the United
> States. So probably like the Golden Gate Bridge, The Brooklyn Bridge,
> and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.

Don't miss the Royal Gorge bridge in Colorado - though a brush fire
just made a mess of the buildings...

If you want to know about and/or visit notable bridges,
http://Bridgehunter.com is a valuable site.

A listing of suspension bridges in the US.
http://bridgehunter.com/category/tag/suspension/

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Fmiser]

> Mountain Man  wrote:
>
> Oh! So I’ve been planning a big trip for the summer. I’m thinking of
> visiting all of the most famous suspension bridges in the United
> States. So probably like the Golden Gate Bridge, The Brooklyn Bridge,
> and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.

Don't miss the Royal Gorge bridge in Colorado - though a brush fire
just made a mess of the buildings...

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http://Bridgehunter.com is a valuable site.

A listing of suspension bridges in the US.
http://bridgehunter.com/category/tag/suspension/

-- Philip

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[MBZ] Legendary Diesel Mercedes W123 + SCANIA turbine @ Eastern European Drift Championship

[dseretakis]

OM606 engine. Wow!

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/24afjVqm2Uw


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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I am thinking about seeing if it would be feasible to setup an account 
that would just be a plugin to order online. I am not interested at this time 
of doing phone orders and all that. It may not be possible but if it is I would 
set something up with a very low markup.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> Thanks Rusty for the response, I do appreciate it.  Looks like things are 
> just not going to work out.
> 
> Kleb you need to become a new part of Rusty's Amway network, sell NEW parts 
> to us all.  Maybe you can win a pink Benz.
> 
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
> Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to 
> order from. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
>> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I 
>> wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have 
>> bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't 
>> talk to me. Strange but true.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rich Thomas 
>> Sender: "Mercedes" 
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
>> 
>> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>>> So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
>>> DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
>>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>> 
 I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
 submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
 that is BS, but that is it.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 
> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> 
>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
>>> unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide 
>>> even
>>> minimal customer service.
>> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
>> that's the case?
>> 
>> Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Rich Thomas]

Thanks Rusty for the response, I do appreciate it.  Looks like things are just 
not going to work out.

Kleb you need to become a new part of Rusty's Amway network, sell NEW parts to 
us all.  Maybe you can win a pink Benz.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jun 12, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to order 
from. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:

> 
> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I wish 
> him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have bitten 
> off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't talk to 
> me. Strange but true.
> 
> 
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rich Thomas 
> Sender: "Mercedes" 
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
> 
> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>> So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
>> DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
>> 
>> Mike
>> On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
>>> submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
>>> that is BS, but that is it.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>> 
 On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
>> I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
>> unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even
>> minimal customer service.
> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
> that's the case?
> 
> Mitch.
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 customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Fmiser]

> > > Randy Bennell  wrote:
> > >
> > > My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is
> > > partially open.

> > On 12/06/2013 3:38 PM, Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Is that a manual sunroof?

> Randy Bennell  wrote:
>
> If you mean "manual", as in one must crank it, then no. This one is 
> powered by a motor.

Oh.  If it is operated with an electric switch then it is not manual.
*smiles*   By the way, the manual ones are not crank operated, but have
a "T" handle that is rotated to secures the sunroof panel in any
position as well as provide a handle to drag the sunroof panel forward
or back.  I like it much better than the electric.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[WILTON]

Thnks.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Jaime Kopchinski" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?



Hi Wilton,
Gary's contact information is here:
http://www.buyeuroparts.com/

His phone number is 954-889-5530

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:37 PM, WILTON  wrote:


Remind me his #.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Jaime Kopchinski" 



To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:30 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?


 Gary (Jabba) is still doing good business by me.  I get good stuff when

its
promised for good prices.  I recommend him to everyone.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:

 Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes

business - no Q, no fun!

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Ordered 31 May; billed to my credit card 1 Jun; no parts rcvd and no
> response to inquiries 11 Jun.  Asked USAA Credit Card Services this
evening
> to hold payment pending action and/or response on parts side.  I 
> really

> hope all is well and we're just being too "jumpy."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <
ka...@striplin.net
> >
>
>  Ok so you paid for parts that have not arrived also? So who all is
>> getting screwed at the moment?
>>
>> --
>
>
OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Hi Wilton,
Gary's contact information is here:
http://www.buyeuroparts.com/

His phone number is 954-889-5530

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:37 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Remind me his #.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Jaime Kopchinski" 
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:30 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?
>
>
>  Gary (Jabba) is still doing good business by me.  I get good stuff when
>> its
>> promised for good prices.  I recommend him to everyone.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>>
>>  Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes
>>> business - no Q, no fun!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ordered 31 May; billed to my credit card 1 Jun; no parts rcvd and no
>>> > response to inquiries 11 Jun.  Asked USAA Credit Card Services this
>>> evening
>>> > to hold payment pending action and/or response on parts side.  I really
>>> > hope all is well and we're just being too "jumpy."
>>> >
>>> > Wilton
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <
>>> ka...@striplin.net
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >  Ok so you paid for parts that have not arrived also? So who all is
>>> >> getting screwed at the moment?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

"give 'im a chance," that is.   ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order



My thoughts, too, on the pers/family emergency.
That's why I keep trying to give 'em a chance.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Mountain Man" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order


A pity for all of us, including Trent.  Thanks for your tremendous help 
for

many years, Rusty.


It might be some personal/family emergency.
In which case, none of us would be handling business.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

My thoughts, too, on the pers/family emergency.
That's why I keep trying to give 'em a chance.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Mountain Man" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order


A pity for all of us, including Trent.  Thanks for your tremendous help 
for

many years, Rusty.


It might be some personal/family emergency.
In which case, none of us would be handling business.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[WILTON]

Remind me his #.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?


Gary (Jabba) is still doing good business by me.  I get good stuff when 
its

promised for good prices.  I recommend him to everyone.

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:


Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes
business - no Q, no fun!

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Ordered 31 May; billed to my credit card 1 Jun; no parts rcvd and no
> response to inquiries 11 Jun.  Asked USAA Credit Card Services this
evening
> to hold payment pending action and/or response on parts side.  I really
> hope all is well and we're just being too "jumpy."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <
ka...@striplin.net
> >
>
>  Ok so you paid for parts that have not arrived also? So who all is
>> getting screwed at the moment?
>>
>> --
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

Whatever helps.  Can we talk to Rusty on it?   ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order


Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to 
order from.



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On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  
wrote:




I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I 
wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have 
bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just 
won't talk to me. Strange but true.



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-Original Message-
From: Rich Thomas 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.

--R


On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends. 
He

DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.

Mike
On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, 
having
submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, 
think

that is BS, but that is it.

--R


On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Rich Thomas wrote:

I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he 
is
unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide 
even

minimal customer service.
Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you 
if

that's the case?

Mitch.

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anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website 
asking

customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Mountain Man]

> A pity for all of us, including Trent.  Thanks for your tremendous help for
> many years, Rusty.

It might be some personal/family emergency.
In which case, none of us would be handling business.
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

A pity for all of us, including Trent.  Thanks for your tremendous help for 
many years, Rusty.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rusty Cullens" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order



I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I 
wish him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have 
bitten off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't 
talk to me. Strange but true.



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-Original Message-
From: Rich Thomas 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.

--R


On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:

So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.

Mike
On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, 
think

that is BS, but that is it.

--R


On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Rich Thomas wrote:


I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide 
even

minimal customer service.

Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you 
if

that's the case?

Mitch.

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anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
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Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Play Homeland Security Haiku! Was: Re: OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Mountain Man]

Hey! How’s it going? I’m all right.

My job is so shitty I wish I could overthrow my boss. It’s like this
oppressive regime where only true believers in his management
techniques will stay around. I work marathon-length hours and he’s
made all these changes that have made it the worst architecture firm
to work at in Manhattan. Like he moved the office to the Financial
District and fired my assistant. She was the only one who knew where
the blueprints were! I need access to those blueprints to complete my
job! F my life, right? And he keeps trying to start all these new
initiatives to boost revenue, but seriously we just need to stick to
what we do best. There’s only one true profit center. I seriously feel
ready to go on strike at any second.

I just read this article about how these free radical particles can
cause the downfall of good health and accelerate aging. These could
actually cause death to millions of Americans. If these particles are
flying around undetected everywhere, does that mean we’re all
radicalized?

Have you seen the second season of Breaking Bad? I just finished it. I
couldn’t believe that episode where they poison the guy with ricin!
That was the bomb! I won’t say any more because I don’t want to reveal
the earth-shattering events to come.

Oh! So I’ve been planning a big trip for the summer. I’m thinking of
visiting all of the most famous suspension bridges in the United
States. So probably like the Golden Gate Bridge, The Brooklyn Bridge,
and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. I’m gonna bring my younger brother
and I know he’ll want to go to bars, so I’m thinking of getting him a
fake drivers license, but I hope that doesn’t blow up in my face.

Okay, I gotta run! I’m late for flight school. I missed the last class
where we learn how to land, so I really can’t miss another one. Talk
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Mountain Man]

Hey! How’s it going? I’m all right.

My job is so shitty I wish I could overthrow my boss. It’s like this
oppressive regime where only true believers in his management
techniques will stay around. I work marathon-length hours and he’s
made all these changes that have made it the worst architecture firm
to work at in Manhattan. Like he moved the office to the Financial
District and fired my assistant. She was the only one who knew where
the blueprints were! I need access to those blueprints to complete my
job! F my life, right? And he keeps trying to start all these new
initiatives to boost revenue, but seriously we just need to stick to
what we do best. There’s only one true profit center. I seriously feel
ready to go on strike at any second.

I just read this article about how these free radical particles can
cause the downfall of good health and accelerate aging. These could
actually cause death to millions of Americans. If these particles are
flying around undetected everywhere, does that mean we’re all
radicalized?

Have you seen the second season of Breaking Bad? I just finished it. I
couldn’t believe that episode where they poison the guy with ricin!
That was the bomb! I won’t say any more because I don’t want to reveal
the earth-shattering events to come.

Oh! So I’ve been planning a big trip for the summer. I’m thinking of
visiting all of the most famous suspension bridges in the United
States. So probably like the Golden Gate Bridge, The Brooklyn Bridge,
and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. I’m gonna bring my younger brother
and I know he’ll want to go to bars, so I’m thinking of getting him a
fake drivers license, but I hope that doesn’t blow up in my face.

Okay, I gotta run! I’m late for flight school. I missed the last class
where we learn how to land, so I really can’t miss another one. Talk
to you later!

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[MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

In addition to the below msg this morning, following are my actions re.
Trent today:

0945 12 Jun left msg (answer machine) for Trent to call me.

1345 left msg with assistant, Peggy, "What is status of my 31 May order?"
Peggy took my ph #; said she'd FAX msg to Trent.

1407 12 Jun msg to buymbpa...@comcast.net

~1650  Msg to call left with answering service on Trent's usual # and on
815-564-3436

~1700 Printed msg sent to Trent via FAX

Seems the ladies we've been talking to are merely answering service; likely
no knowledge or involvement in the business.  They merely send FAX msgs to
Trent that certain party called, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: ; "mercedes list" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:42 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 31 May order



Trent, has my 31 May order been placed?  Has an invoice been generated?
'Asked these questions of Kitty yesterday.  She said she'd ask you to call
me.  'Nothing, including info, yet received.

We've heard nothing from you for several days concerning possible
"problem" (delayed) orders - mine and at least one other okiebenz list
member. Probably the worst part of all of this is not being able to get
info from you.  Please, do not shut us out.  If there's a problem, we need
to hear it from you - early.  When we don't hear anything from you, can't
reach you, etc., our human nature causes us to imagine the worst.  Some of
us may be a bit "shell-shocked" and a bit "jumpy;" well, I am, anyway.  I
(possibly others) have been too-severely "crapped upon" long before most
of the okiebenz list members were born to not be a bit "jumpy."

I sincerely hope that whatever problems there are can be resolved and
allow all of us to continue to do business with you, but we need to hear
from you.

If my concerns are premature, I offer my sincere apology.

Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Gary (Jabba) is still doing good business by me.  I get good stuff when its
promised for good prices.  I recommend him to everyone.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes
> business - no Q, no fun!
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>
> > Ordered 31 May; billed to my credit card 1 Jun; no parts rcvd and no
> > response to inquiries 11 Jun.  Asked USAA Credit Card Services this
> evening
> > to hold payment pending action and/or response on parts side.  I really
> > hope all is well and we're just being too "jumpy."
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <
> ka...@striplin.net
> > >
> >
> >  Ok so you paid for parts that have not arrived also? So who all is
> >> getting screwed at the moment?
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >
> OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Ok so now what? Lets just put a worldpac plugin on okiebenz for people to order 
from. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:

> 
> I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
> given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I wish 
> him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have bitten 
> off more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't talk to 
> me. Strange but true.
> 
> 
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rich Thomas 
> Sender: "Mercedes" 
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order
> 
> I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>> So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
>> DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
>> 
>> Mike
>> On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
>>> submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
>>> that is BS, but that is it.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>> 
 On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> 
>> I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
>> unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even
>> minimal customer service.
> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
> that's the case?
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> __**_
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 anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
 However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
 would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website asking
 customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Rusty Cullens]

I am sorry Rich, it appears that my boy Trent can't handle the job he was 
given. If it makes anyone feel better he won't return my calls either. I wish 
him well he is a very nice guy with a great personality but may have bitten off 
more than he can chew. I have tried to help him but he just won't talk to me. 
Strange but true.


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From: Rich Thomas 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:46:53 
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.

--R


On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
> So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
> DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.
>
> Mike
> On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
>> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
>> submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
>> that is BS, but that is it.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>>>
 Rich Thomas wrote:

> I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
> unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even
> minimal customer service.
>
 Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
 that's the case?

 Mitch.

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>>> would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website asking
>>> customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.
>>>
>>> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT

[G Mann]

What Clay said, x2.

Man up. Get off your collective asses and go to work society. Spend the
19.7 hrs you now spend each week watching dancing with the stars inventing
a new device to save the world.

Take charge of your country, your life, and your future. Love your children
enough to teach them self reliance and responsibility.  Have a dream and
work it.

Know what an elephant is?  A mouse designed and built under government
contract.

Grant...


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:18 PM, clay  wrote:

> Curt, Unless you happen to have resided on this continent prior to 1492,
> your forefathers were risk takers.  Maybe not much by choice if colored,
> but coming here was not for the risk averse.  With the growth of unions
> (Big risk for those trying to organize) the risk averse were made
> comfortable.  Pensions are a thing of our fathers or grandfathers, but not
> great grandfathers.  Until the FDR fiasco, life was not for the weak.
>  Surviving even through the depression required stamina and a healthy
> undertaking of risk to remain above ground.  WWII required lots of comfort
> for risk to willingly dodge bullets.  Moving off the farm to work a factory
> job was massive risk, since you left all you knew for a chance at a better
> future.
>
> Then the baby boomers came of age.  Lots of drugs, free love, fear of
> Vietnam, coddled by mommy and daddy and expecting to not have to risk
> anything to get ahead.  Go to college, find a job, a spouse, house, cars,
> kids, and have it all delivered to you with little effort.  Snivel about
> nuclear energy, McD food, not having gluten free, free range, organic,
> vegan, locavore tofurkey.
>
> Sure, life has moved to a Nanny state, where we can pander to fear, avoid
> risks, mandate insurance, tell parents they can not smoke in a car in
> Oregon if there are children present, allow our elected leaders to spy on
> us, numb ourselves with reality tv, while we avoid the realities of
> actually living.  A sheltered life is one of fear and risk aversion.
>  Living by the vagaries of nature involves risks.  Being stupid enough to
> build a house that will not withstand a tornado in OK, is foolhardy, but
> nobody wants to think about the risk and actually deal with it.
>
> clay
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> > I'm gonna call BS here. You're saying our forefathers who worked in
> factories were big risk takers? The guys who worked the same job for their
> whole lives and depended on the company's pension? Or go back a couple
> generations to the farm where they lived their whole lives and maybe never
> left the county?
> >
> > Risk takers are always genetic freaks. Everybody said Columbus was nuts,
> nothing out there worth sailing to. Same for the first folks who ventured
> west. Benz and Daimler, who would want a vehicle you had to buy gas for?
> >
> > Humans are not wired to take risks, our pain to pleasure threshold is
> way over on the pleasure side. Heres a simple experiment to prove it.
> Present somebody with a game, you'll flip a coin and if they win you'll pay
> them $10, if you win they pay you $1.
> > Everybody will play that game right? You'd be an idiot not to
> >
> > Then change it to if they win you pay $5 if you win they pay $1. Now
> most everybody will still play but some people (the super risk averse) will
> drop.
> >
> > Now change it to $2/$1 and most people will drop. This is nuts on 100
> flips of the coin they should get around $100 while only paying $50, they
> almost can't lose but most people will not take the bet, only the freaks
> do...
> >
> > -Curt
> > Who wishes he was one of the freaks but really isn't...
> >
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:33:10 -0700
> > From: clay 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
> > Message-ID: <0367275f-cbd9-4976-890e-81fc0c2e3...@comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Scott, your insight is great, but all the items you tick off really
> devolved to the same entity.  Risk.  The youth and Baby boomers are really
> risk averse as a whole.  There are many who are job creators, who have
> gambled and struggle every day to remain viable if not massively successful.
> >
> > As a nation we have shied away from that, and instituted the assurance
> of vastly reduced risk in life.  Go to college, somehow it will be paid
> for.  Even if you screwed around horridly in secondary school, we will find
> a way for you to reap rewards you have not earned.  Take on the debt, of a
> house, a degree, a lifestyle beyond your means, there will be no Piper to
> pay, as we have removed the eventual pain.  Soon maybe even death will be
> vanquished.  We will allow you to destroy your financial future in an
> attempt to keep you alive by treating your cancer or lifestyle disease, so
> worry not about the bottle of booze, the cases of smokes, the triple bacon
> cheez burgers, the hours spent on you butt in front of the massive TV 

Re: [MBZ] Let's Play Homeland Security Haiku! Was: Re: OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Rich Thomas]

Allahu akbar!
Pizza is in the oven.
Keep me out of it.

I have the package.
Large but I can carry it.
It is not glowing.

--R (time for supper)


On 6/12/13 6:40 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

At 9:27 AM -0700 6/12/13, Curt Raymond wrote:
http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement 



Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...


http://www.forbes.com/sites/reuvencohen/2012/05/26/department-of-homeland-security-forced-to-release-list-of-keywords-used-to-monitor-social-networking-sites/2/ 




A couple I came up with:

Shooting shots fired
Hazardous material
Ciudad Juarez

Taliban pirates
Hail weapons grade dirty bomb
Methamphetamine

Have fun!  >:-}

-MMM-

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[MBZ] Let's Play Homeland Security Haiku! Was: Re: OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 9:27 AM -0700 6/12/13, Curt Raymond wrote:

http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement

Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...


http://www.forbes.com/sites/reuvencohen/2012/05/26/department-of-homeland-security-forced-to-release-list-of-keywords-used-to-monitor-social-networking-sites/2/


A couple I came up with:

Shooting shots fired
Hazardous material
Ciudad Juarez

Taliban pirates
Hail weapons grade dirty bomb
Methamphetamine

Have fun!  >:-}

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[OK Don]

Hmmm - looks like this is a good time to be out of the old Mercedes
business - no Q, no fun!

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Ordered 31 May; billed to my credit card 1 Jun; no parts rcvd and no
> response to inquiries 11 Jun.  Asked USAA Credit Card Services this evening
> to hold payment pending action and/or response on parts side.  I really
> hope all is well and we're just being too "jumpy."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin"  >
>
>  Ok so you paid for parts that have not arrived also? So who all is
>> getting screwed at the moment?
>>
>> --
>
>
OK Don
2013 F150
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Benz Hogs]

INFIDELS!

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (165,xxx mi)

On 6/12/2013 3:51 PM, clay wrote:

The dough rises, but the cheese is not ready.

The delivery driver has no virgins, Praise be to GOD!

On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


The pizza is in the oven

--R


On 6/12/13 4:32 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Curt wrote:

Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...

Well... this email is laced with ricin and will cause your driveway to
crater with car bomb when you read this.
We have known about surveillance by govt for at least a dozen years.
Why co we get all worked up in the news cycle now?  It must be a slow
news time for networks and govt watchdogs.
I like AK47.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in

[Darren Marshall]

Yep, it's an open layout, roasting in back, cafe in front. Our retail manager 
Talya, or our Operations Director Brian will be there to give a nice tasting... 
both award winning Baristas.

Metered parking on the street, the earlier the better to find spots in front, 
but should be np for a handful of cars.

Will keep you posted,

Darren Marshall
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On Jun 12, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Darren wrote:
>> still trying to work out a date... the best time to catch roasting in
>> action is weekday mornings, hope that doesn't put anyone out too bad.
> 
> That is what I was guessing - weekday morning sometime.
> Laptop/MissB, m/m-z, me (thet's 5 people) have expressed desire to see
> your shop do roasting.  Baristas pull espresso at the same location?
> Pictures sound great, if/when.
> What is parking situation at shop location?
> Thanks, & no hurry - we're asking...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in

[Mountain Man]

Darren wrote:
> still trying to work out a date... the best time to catch roasting in
> action is weekday mornings, hope that doesn't put anyone out too bad.
>

That is what I was guessing - weekday morning sometime.
Laptop/MissB, m/m-z, me (thet's 5 people) have expressed desire to see
your shop do roasting.  Baristas pull espresso at the same location?
Pictures sound great, if/when.
What is parking situation at shop location?
Thanks, & no hurry - we're asking...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Gerry Archer]

'Way to go!  A few more gitterdones like that and you can apply for your STM 
Certificate.

Gerry


My 240D is a '78. I'd appreciate the partnumber.
For now (since I need this car for next week) I got a piece of 44mm hose. 
Actually I bought a pre-moulded radiator hose for something else and cut a 
length out of it. It looks like it will fit.
I also found a substitution for the 90 degree heater hose I didn't get 
from a certain online parts supplier, some 3/4" heater hose is fitting the 
bill pretty well. Hard to install because the proper stuff is bigger at 
one end than the other. It took a lot of time slowly stretching it into 
place but its there and not kinked.


Once Angie gets home I'll go get a couple more hose clamps (I bought the 
right ones for the too small hose but they won't fit the proper thing) and 
I think I can button this one up. I hope...


-Curt

Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:55:04 -0400
From: Chris James 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?
Message-ID: <51b8c408.6020...@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Looks like that part No. is for certain W109 W110 W111 R113 W114 gas
models only.

What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for
you, so you know what to order.


On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between
the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small, it'll
pass through the correct hose...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Randy Bennell]

On 12/06/2013 3:38 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Randy Bennell  wrote:

My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is
partially open.
I don't normally open it up very far except at night as I don't like
the sun shining in on me. I open it an inch or two to act as a vent
but that is about it.
However, when I do that it rattles.
Is this the nature of the beast or is there likely something in there
that needs attention?

Is that a manual sunroof?  The manual sunroof has a rubber roller that
runs up a ramp to lock the roof open (I think).  On one of mine (S123),
those rollers have lost their rubber so just the metal hub remains.
This makes it impossible to get the tensions adjustment right and so it
always rattles when open.

I don't know if the W115 is similar or not...

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Curt Raymond]

My 240D is a '78. I'd appreciate the partnumber.

For now (since I need this car for next week) I got a piece of 44mm hose. 
Actually I bought a pre-moulded radiator hose for something else and cut a 
length out of it. It looks like it will fit.

I also found a substitution for the 90 degree heater hose I didn't get from a 
certain online parts supplier, some 3/4" heater hose is fitting the bill pretty 
well. Hard to install because the proper stuff is bigger at one end than the 
other. It took a lot of time slowly stretching it into place but its there and 
not kinked.

Once Angie gets home I'll go get a couple more hose clamps (I bought the right 
ones for the too small hose but they won't fit the proper thing) and I think I 
can button this one up. I hope...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:55:04 -0400
From: Chris James 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?
Message-ID: <51b8c408.6020...@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Looks like that part No. is for certain W109 W110 W111 R113 W114 gas 
models only.

What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for 
you, so you know what to order.


On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between
> the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small, it'll
> pass through the correct hose...
>
> -Curt


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in

[Darren Marshall]

last thing going on are the new tires, maybe today or tomorrow.

then, have a little bit of paperwork to do with the state, and then she'll
be on the road.

maybe a photoshoot in the meantime ;)

still trying to work out a date... the best time to catch roasting in
action is weekday mornings, hope that doesn't put anyone out too bad.


Darren
312-208-4328


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Darren wrote:
> > ... but the old seat is out and the new one is in.
> >
> > Woot!
>
> Nice!!
> When can we see that wonderful old car?
> Have you been able to nail down a date/time for about 5 of us to see
> your roasting works?
> Thanks.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[clay]

The dough rises, but the cheese is not ready.  

The delivery driver has no virgins, Praise be to GOD!

On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> The pizza is in the oven
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 6/12/13 4:32 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>> Curt wrote:
>>> Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...
>> Well... this email is laced with ricin and will cause your driveway to
>> crater with car bomb when you read this.
>> We have known about surveillance by govt for at least a dozen years.
>> Why co we get all worked up in the news cycle now?  It must be a slow
>> news time for networks and govt watchdogs.
>> I like AK47.
>> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Mountain Man]

--R wrote:
> The pizza is in the oven

And may all the deities be praised, including allah akhbhar.
Ricin, ricin, AK-47, kill everyone you know.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent Issue

[Mountain Man]

Rusty wrote:
> I am here, I didn't see the email, sorry. I have tried to talk to Trent about 
> all the issues that pop up but I too get ignored sometimes. I will continue 
> to prod him for any and all of ya'll. FYI, life at WorldPac is amazing! In my 
> 2 months on the phones after the initial training, I have added 62 accounts 
> and sold them quite a bit. Keep in mind to become an account you have to buy 
> a minimum of 2k a month. The account base they have given me has increased 37 
> percent over the same 2 months. It looks like I may keep my job! Keep posting 
> or private email me if Trent isn't doing what he should. Thanks.
>

Did you guys read this email from 2 days ago?
Clearly Rusty is our inside man at WorldPac - perhaps he can spill the
beans about how communism works in a free-market quasi-democratic
arena?
Not to mention AK-47 and car bombs and ricin.
map

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Rich Thomas]

The pizza is in the oven

--R


On 6/12/13 4:32 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Curt wrote:

Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...

Well... this email is laced with ricin and will cause your driveway to
crater with car bomb when you read this.
We have known about surveillance by govt for at least a dozen years.
Why co we get all worked up in the news cycle now?  It must be a slow
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I like AK47.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Fmiser]

> Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is
> partially open.
> I don't normally open it up very far except at night as I don't like
> the sun shining in on me. I open it an inch or two to act as a vent
> but that is about it.
> However, when I do that it rattles.
> Is this the nature of the beast or is there likely something in there 
> that needs attention?

Is that a manual sunroof?  The manual sunroof has a rubber roller that
runs up a ramp to lock the roof open (I think).  On one of mine (S123),
those rollers have lost their rubber so just the metal hub remains.
This makes it impossible to get the tensions adjustment right and so it
always rattles when open.

I don't know if the W115 is similar or not...

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Mountain Man]

Curt wrote:
> Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...

Well... this email is laced with ricin and will cause your driveway to
crater with car bomb when you read this.
We have known about surveillance by govt for at least a dozen years.
Why co we get all worked up in the news cycle now?  It must be a slow
news time for networks and govt watchdogs.
I like AK47.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in

[Mountain Man]

Darren wrote:
> ... but the old seat is out and the new one is in.
>
> Woot!

Nice!!
When can we see that wonderful old car?
Have you been able to nail down a date/time for about 5 of us to see
your roasting works?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Randy Bennell]

I "think" it is not as noticeable if I open the roof more.

Randy

On 12/06/2013 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Does the rattle go away if you open it a little more?  Or is it the same
for every gradation of openng?



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is partially
open.
I don't normally open it up very far except at night as I don't like the
sun shining in on me. I open it an inch or two to act as a vent but that is
about it.
However, when I do that it rattles.
Is this the nature of the beast or is there likely something in there that
needs attention?

Randy

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[MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Randy Bennell]

My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is partially 
open.
I don't normally open it up very far except at night as I don't like the 
sun shining in on me. I open it an inch or two to act as a vent but that 
is about it.

However, when I do that it rattles.
Is this the nature of the beast or is there likely something in there 
that needs attention?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Fmiser]

> > On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >
> > 127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between
> > the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small,
> > it'll pass through the correct hose...

> Chris James  wrote:
> 
> What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for 
> you, so you know what to order.

My notes show 900-271-042012 is the number for that hose.  

My memory is that can only be purchased in 1 meter lengths.  Rusty
would cut and sell a suitable length.

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Re: [MBZ] Another Sunroof Issue

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Does the rattle go away if you open it a little more?  Or is it the same
for every gradation of openng?



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> My car - 76 115 300D - has a rattle in the sunroof when it is partially
> open.
> I don't normally open it up very far except at night as I don't like the
> sun shining in on me. I open it an inch or two to act as a vent but that is
> about it.
> However, when I do that it rattles.
> Is this the nature of the beast or is there likely something in there that
> needs attention?
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Randy Bennell]

On 12/06/2013 1:15 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:

Makes the poor guy feel better when his Walmart tires say Good Year even if
it is of lesser quality.  Good Year HAS to be better than no name brand
right?

Mike


That sort of depends.
A number of years ago I had Michelin tires on my Mercury.
They would not wear out but the rubber was so hard that I had no 
traction in winter.
I was stuck on a flat parking lot one day as it was icy. Could not go 
forward or backward. Either way it just spun the tire.
I had the cheapest no name tires I could find put on and had no more 
troubles. No idea who made them but they sure were better than that set 
of Michelin.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue

[Dan Penoff]

With the window feature you run the window all the way up and hold the button 
in for something like 5 seconds or longer.

It's in the W140 owners manual, so if this is the case there is likely 
something in his owners manual as well.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Robert Koziak  wrote:

> 
> Dan  
> 
> That is a real good possibility, I haven't been able to ask him yet.  What 
> would be the reset procedure?  
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 1:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after 
> Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue
> 
> 
> Has the battery been disconnected? It may be like the feature where the auto 
> close function has to be reset if there is a loss of power.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Robert Koziak  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> During a recent storm I tracked the leak to the inside of a panel on the
> passenger's side of the dash console.  The panel is visible when you open up 
> the 
> passenger's front door.  As  pointed out this still does not indicate if the 
> leak is coming from the windshield gasket, roof drains etc.  
>> 
>> A friend worked on cleaning out the sunroof drains but in the process I now
> have an issue with the sunroof.  When pushing the button to close it about 
> six 
> inches from being closed, it stops and reopens.  I did some research and 
> there 
> is a "Anti-Pinching' feature that was probably disturbed and needs to be 
> reset. 
>> 
>> Any thoughts of this...some say it has to be reset by a dealer.  
> Instructions or help is greatly appreciated!  
>> 
>> Tomorrow  severe storms in the northeast will help see if the sunroof drains
> were the source.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 11:42 am
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after
> Heavy Rain
>> 
>> 
>>> Would I be able to visibly see where the windshield is leaking?  We 
>>> are expecting some severe thunderstorms today so I planned on 
>>> checking the car then.
>> 
>> NO!
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Chris James]

'75-'83 240D Thermostat to Water Pump Hose

Part #: 900271042012

Came across this site, MB I believe now only offers this part as bulk
hose (listing for over $100).

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=622

$6.15 + shipping
(supposedly a cut to fit piece of original Mercedes-Benz hose, not
aftermarket or OEM.)

No relation, affiliation ect. just passing on what I came across doing a
quick search.


On 6/12/2013 2:55 PM, Chris James wrote:

Looks like that part No. is for certain W109 W110 W111 R113 W114 gas
models only.

What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for
you, so you know what to order.


On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose
between the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too
small, it'll pass through the correct hose...

-Curt






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Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Rich Thomas]

So here is one problem with the order he asserts Worldpac to be at fault 
for:


I need 2 alternator belts,

he says 004 997 39 32   x2

but then on the 2nd and 3rd submittal he has

004 997 39 32   x2 no stock
004 997 39 92   x2 no stock  Revised  Fairfield

Looking at 
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperCat/3338/MBZ_3338_ENGMIS_pg1.htm#item0


I see that their part number is

Belt - Alternator/Water Pump - 10 X 1035 (through engine # 039510)
Brand: Contitech (OEM Supplier)[More Info 
]

Part Number: 004-997-39-92-M21   (2 per car, sold individually)

Belt - Alternator/Water Pump - 10 X 1035 (through engine # 039510)
Brand: Genuine Mercedes-Benz[More Info 
]

Part Number: 004-997-39-92-MBZ   (2 per car, sold individually)

It appears orders 1 and 2 had wrong number (32 not 92), 3 looks like 
they don't have them anyway (he said Contitech)


Other numbers look OK but they say no stock on some of my stuff.  Other 
stuff has no note to that effect.


So, anyone have experience with PelicanParts?

BTW they have your part number
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/PEL_search.cgi?command=see_more&please_wait=N&db_record_number=158143&PART_SEARCH=Y&SUPERCAT_FLAG=Y&make=MBZ&description=127%20203%2000%2082

--R





On 6/12/13 2:55 PM, Chris James wrote:
Looks like that part No. is for certain W109 W110 W111 R113 W114 gas 
models only.


What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for 
you, so you know what to order.



On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between
the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small, it'll
pass through the correct hose...

-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[clay]

Well, Hendrik, you are living in the underside and being there have a much 
higher bar than those living in the swaddled first world.  We must applaud any 
positive actions, since it may damage peoples fragile self esteem otherwise.  I 
can send you a nice ribbon if that will make you feel better

clay

On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:53 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> I pull an engine apart and put it back together and get nothing, someone 
> undoes 4 bolts and swaps a seat in and get standing applause.
> Well that's just fine and dandy, perhaps next week I'll attempt to put fuel 
> in the car and will be named shade tree mechanic of the year.
> 
> Hendrik
> who is being in silly mode again
> 
> On 12/06/13 13:57, Craig wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:12:13 -0500 Darren Marshall
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it took a combination of frustrated finagling, about a quarter
>>> can of lube, popping the tension spring, jimmy-rigging the ramp track
>>> while whacking the rear of the track with a giant hammer... but the old
>>> seat is out and the new one is in.
>> Congratulations!!!
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT

[clay]

Curt, Unless you happen to have resided on this continent prior to 1492, your 
forefathers were risk takers.  Maybe not much by choice if colored, but coming 
here was not for the risk averse.  With the growth of unions (Big risk for 
those trying to organize) the risk averse were made comfortable.  Pensions are 
a thing of our fathers or grandfathers, but not great grandfathers.  Until the 
FDR fiasco, life was not for the weak.  Surviving even through the depression 
required stamina and a healthy undertaking of risk to remain above ground.  
WWII required lots of comfort for risk to willingly dodge bullets.  Moving off 
the farm to work a factory job was massive risk, since you left all you knew 
for a chance at a better future.  

Then the baby boomers came of age.  Lots of drugs, free love, fear of Vietnam, 
coddled by mommy and daddy and expecting to not have to risk anything to get 
ahead.  Go to college, find a job, a spouse, house, cars, kids, and have it all 
delivered to you with little effort.  Snivel about nuclear energy, McD food, 
not having gluten free, free range, organic, vegan, locavore tofurkey.

Sure, life has moved to a Nanny state, where we can pander to fear, avoid 
risks, mandate insurance, tell parents they can not smoke in a car in Oregon if 
there are children present, allow our elected leaders to spy on us, numb 
ourselves with reality tv, while we avoid the realities of actually living.  A 
sheltered life is one of fear and risk aversion.  Living by the vagaries of 
nature involves risks.  Being stupid enough to build a house that will not 
withstand a tornado in OK, is foolhardy, but nobody wants to think about the 
risk and actually deal with it.

clay


On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> I'm gonna call BS here. You're saying our forefathers who worked in factories 
> were big risk takers? The guys who worked the same job for their whole lives 
> and depended on the company's pension? Or go back a couple generations to the 
> farm where they lived their whole lives and maybe never left the county?
> 
> Risk takers are always genetic freaks. Everybody said Columbus was nuts, 
> nothing out there worth sailing to. Same for the first folks who ventured 
> west. Benz and Daimler, who would want a vehicle you had to buy gas for?
> 
> Humans are not wired to take risks, our pain to pleasure threshold is way 
> over on the pleasure side. Heres a simple experiment to prove it. Present 
> somebody with a game, you'll flip a coin and if they win you'll pay them $10, 
> if you win they pay you $1.
> Everybody will play that game right? You'd be an idiot not to
> 
> Then change it to if they win you pay $5 if you win they pay $1. Now most 
> everybody will still play but some people (the super risk averse) will drop.
> 
> Now change it to $2/$1 and most people will drop. This is nuts on 100 flips 
> of the coin they should get around $100 while only paying $50, they almost 
> can't lose but most people will not take the bet, only the freaks do...
> 
> -Curt
> Who wishes he was one of the freaks but really isn't...
> 
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:33:10 -0700
> From: clay 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
> Message-ID: <0367275f-cbd9-4976-890e-81fc0c2e3...@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Scott, your insight is great, but all the items you tick off really devolved 
> to the same entity.  Risk.  The youth and Baby boomers are really risk averse 
> as a whole.  There are many who are job creators, who have gambled and 
> struggle every day to remain viable if not massively successful.
> 
> As a nation we have shied away from that, and instituted the assurance of 
> vastly reduced risk in life.  Go to college, somehow it will be paid for.  
> Even if you screwed around horridly in secondary school, we will find a way 
> for you to reap rewards you have not earned.  Take on the debt, of a house, a 
> degree, a lifestyle beyond your means, there will be no Piper to pay, as we 
> have removed the eventual pain.  Soon maybe even death will be vanquished.  
> We will allow you to destroy your financial future in an attempt to keep you 
> alive by treating your cancer or lifestyle disease, so worry not about the 
> bottle of booze, the cases of smokes, the triple bacon cheez burgers, the 
> hours spent on you butt in front of the massive TV you could not really 
> afford, while you consume cable tv you also can not afford.
> 
> The reduction of risk is counter evolutionary.  We are no longer weeding out 
> the lesser qualified and encouraging the defective to increase in population. 
>  In nature there are boundaries, and you end up with a boom and then a crash. 
>  We think we are moderating that, but in reality, we are stoking the boom 
> which will one day exceed our ability to feed that cancer and it will wipe 
> out, much as our current wild fire policy, that which is was attempting to 

Re: [MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Chris James]

Looks like that part No. is for certain W109 W110 W111 R113 W114 gas 
models only.


What year is your 240D? I'll try to look up the correct part No. for 
you, so you know what to order.



On 6/12/2013 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

127 203 00 82 This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between
the water pump and thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small, it'll
pass through the correct hose...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Rich Thomas]

I sent Trent's email asserting Worldpac issues to Rusty, no response.

--R


On 6/12/13 2:12 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:

So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.

Mike
On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
that is BS, but that is it.

--R


On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Rich Thomas wrote:


I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even
minimal customer service.


Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
that's the case?

Mitch.

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Everyone is so concerned with privacy anymore that you cannot find out
anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website asking
customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.

Randy

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[MBZ] Can you ID this part?

[Curt Raymond]

127 203 00 82
This is what Trent sent me for the little hose between the water pump and 
thermostat on my 240D. Its wa too small, it'll pass through the correct 
hose...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[WILTON]

Beautiful airplane; slow to accelerate; hard (touchy) to land; not very 
forgiving.
Worked my a$$ off in rain, blizzards, heat, day, night, weekend, holiday, 
etc., for very little.

Thanks for the ATTABOY.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Mitchell Marmel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow



At 11:40 AM -0400 6/12/13, WILTON wrote:
BTW, 'just remembered: I used to have B-47's and jet engines lying all 
over the hanger floor; put 'em back together; worked fine; never got an 
ATTABOY nor decent pay for it.  ;<)


Have a belated ATTABOY on me, then!  ^.^

-MMM-

who always liked the B-47s.

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue

[Robert Koziak]

Dan  

That is a real good possibility, I haven't been able to ask him yet.  What 
would be the reset procedure?  

Bob


-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after 
Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue


Has the battery been disconnected? It may be like the feature where the auto 
close function has to be reset if there is a loss of power.

Dan

On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Robert Koziak  wrote:

> 
> During a recent storm I tracked the leak to the inside of a panel on the 
passenger's side of the dash console.  The panel is visible when you open up 
the 
passenger's front door.  As  pointed out this still does not indicate if the 
leak is coming from the windshield gasket, roof drains etc.  
> 
> A friend worked on cleaning out the sunroof drains but in the process I now 
have an issue with the sunroof.  When pushing the button to close it about six 
inches from being closed, it stops and reopens.  I did some research and there 
is a "Anti-Pinching' feature that was probably disturbed and needs to be reset. 
> 
> Any thoughts of this...some say it has to be reset by a dealer.  
Instructions or help is greatly appreciated!  
> 
> Tomorrow  severe storms in the northeast will help see if the sunroof drains 
were the source.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 11:42 am
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after 
Heavy Rain
> 
> 
>> Would I be able to visibly see where the windshield is leaking?  We 
>> are expecting some severe thunderstorms today so I planned on 
>> checking the car then.
> 
> NO!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 11:45 AM -0400 6/12/13, Dan Penoff wrote:
Yeah, just be sure you're not wandering around in any Goodwill 
stores around there. You could be dealt a crushing blow!


What, I could find a Nobel Prize?

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] Response from Trent -- Worldpac problems?

[Michael Canfield]

Makes the poor guy feel better when his Walmart tires say Good Year even if
it is of lesser quality.  Good Year HAS to be better than no name brand
right?

Mike
On Jun 12, 2013 12:00 PM, "Alex Chamberlain" 
wrote:

> On Jun 12, 2013 8:01 AM,  wrote:
> >
> > I find it interesting that OEM
> > manufacturers have a different
> > standard for the OE stuff they sell to
> > Mercedes vs the stuff they sell as
> > OEM to us.
> >
>
> Why? It's always been that way.  Kind of like how the name brand tires you
> buy at Wal-mart are lower quality than the same bought at Discount Tire.
> Different product lines at very different pricing/profit structures.  (On
> second thought maybe it's obvious only to those who have studied cost
> accounting...)
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Trent

[Rich Thomas]

There is this Kerri woman, who seems to have some sort of interface with 
his email or order system or something -- when I called to place the 
order she had our emails between Trent and me.


Another call got an answering service, the woman said she would pass 
along the message, for all the good that did.  I did not get her name, 
maybe that is Peggy?


This whole thing is very dodgy.

--R


On 6/12/13 2:01 PM, WILTON wrote:
Yep, a pity for all of us.  Just talked to Trent assistant, Peggy; 
'took my # and question, "What is status of my 31 May order?"  'Said 
she'd FAX  info to Trent.  Same drill as yesterday.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Trent



Sort of a sad day for many I should think.
I have not needed all that much for my car but I basically counted on 
my ability to order whatever it would need from Rusty and felt 
confident that the price would be pretty fair and it would come quickly.
I had one little issue on an order that I can recall and he bent over 
backwards to fix it.


A new era dawns.

Please keep us all posted if you get good service elsewhere so we can 
establish a new relationship.

I'm thinking this old one is done.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 11:40 AM -0400 6/12/13, WILTON wrote:
BTW, 'just remembered: I used to have B-47's and jet engines lying 
all over the hanger floor; put 'em back together; worked fine; never 
got an ATTABOY nor decent pay for it.  ;<)


Have a belated ATTABOY on me, then!  ^.^

-MMM-

who always liked the B-47s.

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Re: [MBZ] New driver seat is in wow

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 12:01 PM -0400 6/12/13, WILTON wrote:

him, "If I find such as that again, the wrenches will be MINE." 
'Came back from lunch and found the wrenches in offending/dangerous 
position again, therefore, wrenches still in my tool box.


Good man.

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Michael Canfield]

So ask Rusty..he should be able to check it out on both ends.  He
DID say to let him know if Trent was not keeping up.

Mike
On Jun 12, 2013 12:10 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, having
> submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like Kleb, think
> that is BS, but that is it.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
>> On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>>
>>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>>
 I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is
 unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even
 minimal customer service.

>>>
>>> Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if
>>> that's the case?
>>>
>>> Mitch.
>>>
>>> __**_
>>>
>> Everyone is so concerned with privacy anymore that you cannot find out
>> anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
>> However, you would think that if he was awake and coherent at all, he
>> would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website asking
>> customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.
>>
>> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Chris James]

When I ordered new rubber brake lines for the 260E I had, I bought a
$10 Brake Bleeding Kit as well

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xz2z3q55xchaxxbgw1xftfro&partnumber=19200LISLE

First time for me, but had no issues (thankfully) bleeding/flushing the
lines with new syn DOT 3/4 fluid, just by pumping the brake pedal (being
careful not to depress it fully) & keeping the reservoir filled.

IIRC I did go through 2-3 (small) bottles making sure all the old brake 
fluid was flushed out.


--
Chris J.

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Re: [MBZ] Opine away

[Rich Thomas]

The MLs are from the CSA too.  And Sprinters.

--R


On 6/12/13 1:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:

2nd, 3rd, and 4th that.  I have to work
VERY hard to get my ML to slide
anywhere.

Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival from der Vaterland by way
of the Confederacy?  Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her
BMW X5?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Trent

[WILTON]

Yep, a pity for all of us.  Just talked to Trent assistant, Peggy; 'took my 
# and question, "What is status of my 31 May order?"  'Said she'd FAX  info 
to Trent.  Same drill as yesterday.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Trent



Sort of a sad day for many I should think.
I have not needed all that much for my car but I basically counted on my 
ability to order whatever it would need from Rusty and felt confident that 
the price would be pretty fair and it would come quickly.
I had one little issue on an order that I can recall and he bent over 
backwards to fix it.


A new era dawns.

Please keep us all posted if you get good service elsewhere so we can 
establish a new relationship.

I'm thinking this old one is done.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue

[Dan Penoff]

Has the battery been disconnected? It may be like the feature where the auto 
close function has to be reset if there is a loss of power.

Dan

On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Robert Koziak  wrote:

> 
> During a recent storm I tracked the leak to the inside of a panel on the 
> passenger's side of the dash console.  The panel is visible when you open up 
> the passenger's front door.  As  pointed out this still does not indicate if 
> the leak is coming from the windshield gasket, roof drains etc.  
> 
> A friend worked on cleaning out the sunroof drains but in the process I now 
> have an issue with the sunroof.  When pushing the button to close it about 
> six inches from being closed, it stops and reopens.  I did some research and 
> there is a "Anti-Pinching' feature that was probably disturbed and needs to 
> be reset. 
> 
> Any thoughts of this...some say it has to be reset by a dealer.  
> Instructions or help is greatly appreciated!  
> 
> Tomorrow  severe storms in the northeast will help see if the sunroof drains 
> were the source.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 11:42 am
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after 
> Heavy Rain
> 
> 
>> Would I be able to visibly see where the windshield is leaking?  We 
>> are expecting some severe thunderstorms today so I planned on 
>> checking the car then.
> 
> NO!
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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Fmiser]

> Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build pressure and work fine
> until I release and try again at which point they're back to bottom
> of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the pedal is bottom of
> the barrel.
> 
> I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?

If it were a damaged master cylinder (MC) seals, then it would not
_hold_ pressure.  If pumping the pedal will build pressure, and the
pedal does not sink, then the master cylinder is likely okay.

Once there is pressure, does it feel "soft"?  Soft pedal is a clear
indication of air in the lines.

When you "release and try again", is that with the car driving down the
road, or when sitting in the driveway?  If the pedal is firm, but too
low, then also check for something pushing the pads too far from the
rotor surface.  Drum brakes, which use a spring to return, a low pedal
or pumping is an indication of brake mis-adjustment.  Since disk brakes
use the rotor movement rather than a spring for return, a warped rotor,
or one not seated flush on the hub will cause similar symptoms.

--   Philip, who has one car in the fleet with 4 wheel drum brakes.

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Re: [MBZ] Opine away

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:
>
> 2nd, 3rd, and 4th that.  I have to work
> VERY hard to get my ML to slide
> anywhere.

Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival from der Vaterland by way
of the Confederacy?  Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her
BMW X5?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Mitch Haley]

G Mann wrote:

Curt,

I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse
bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc?


The Olds drove me nuts for a week. First I did the farthest wheel (the one I had 
to replace a line on) until I quit seeing bubbles, then I did the rest. Pedal 
still went to the floor. Tested it on a dirt road, one front brake would lock, 
the other three couldn't skid in gravel. Bled all around again, no change. 
Pretty much decided it was in the ABS  unit or the master cylinder. Old style 
ABS unit with bleed screws on it, no bubbles from ABS bleeders.


Problem was in the back brake that had the busted line. I just didn't bleed it 
enough the first two times.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue

[Mitch Haley]

Robert Koziak wrote:

A friend worked on cleaning out the sunroof drains but in the process I now have an issue with the sunroof.  When pushing the button to close it about six inches from being closed, it stops and reopens.  I did some research and there is a "Anti-Pinching' feature that was probably disturbed and needs to be reset. 



Can't say for sure about your sunroof, but the driver's seat in my 1999 
(previous chassis) would only go forward when I bought the car. After a cramped 
1000 mile drive home, I found out that the answer was to run it all the way 
forward and keep pushing the button forward for 30 more seconds, then do the 
same all the way back, which reset the seat computer's end of travel points.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Frederick Moir]

Curt.
Sounds like an air bubble somewhere.
I have a Speedi-Bleed that you can use.
Use other email for reply.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Curt Raymond 
>To: Diesel List  
>Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:56 AM
>Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!
> 
>
>Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I 
>could say it worked perfectly but it didn't.
>
>I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help) may 
>have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build 
>pressure and work fine until I release and try again at which point they're 
>back to bottom of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the pedal is 
>bottom of the barrel.
>
>I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?
>
>-Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain-ADDED Sunroof Issue

[Robert Koziak]

During a recent storm I tracked the leak to the inside of a panel on the 
passenger's side of the dash console.  The panel is visible when you open up 
the passenger's front door.  As  pointed out this still does not indicate if 
the leak is coming from the windshield gasket, roof drains etc.  

A friend worked on cleaning out the sunroof drains but in the process I now 
have an issue with the sunroof.  When pushing the button to close it about six 
inches from being closed, it stops and reopens.  I did some research and there 
is a "Anti-Pinching' feature that was probably disturbed and needs to be reset. 

Any thoughts of this...some say it has to be reset by a dealer.  
Instructions or help is greatly appreciated!  

Tomorrow  severe storms in the northeast will help see if the sunroof drains 
were the source.

Bob




-Original Message-
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after 
Heavy Rain


>Would I be able to visibly see where the windshield is leaking?  We 
>are expecting some severe thunderstorms today so I planned on 
>checking the car then.

NO!

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[MBZ] Trent

[Randy Bennell]

Sort of a sad day for many I should think.
I have not needed all that much for my car but I basically counted on my 
ability to order whatever it would need from Rusty and felt confident 
that the price would be pretty fair and it would come quickly.
I had one little issue on an order that I can recall and he bent over 
backwards to fix it.


A new era dawns.

Please keep us all posted if you get good service elsewhere so we can 
establish a new relationship.

I'm thinking this old one is done.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Benz Hogs]

Troll the NSA via Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=346901548729320&story_fbid=469897216429752

Facebook post security options, "Friends and the CIA" "Only me and the 
CIA" "Only the CIA"

http://memecollection.net/new-facebook-nsa-privacy-options/

Plenty of satire on this subject


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (166,xxx mi)

On 6/12/2013 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement

Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[Dieselhead]

No.  sounds exactly like air in the line.  try bleeding again. 
Frustrating, and expensive, especially with silicon fluid.



Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I 
wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't.


I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's 
help) may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the 
brakes they'll build pressure and work fine until I release and try 
again at which point they're back to bottom of the throw. The fronts 
still work fine but the pedal is bottom of the barrel.


I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?

-Curt


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[MBZ] OT: Things that make you say hmmmm

[Curt Raymond]

http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement

Okay its satire but they do kind of have a point...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

[G Mann]

Curt,

I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse
bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc?

Air acts as a "spring" since it can be compressed. If there is a section of
the brake line what has fluid before the "bubble" and after the bubble
[like from the master cylinder] that air will compress enough to "feel"
like you have brake pressure then when released, expand and push the fluid
back to the master... next peddle push, you start pushing fluid all over
again..

Suggest you take some fluid out of the master tank and pump from the bleed
screw again..
Or, if you have a spare electric fuel pump lying around... attach some barb
fittings and clear hose to it and let it do the work while you watch the
master tank for bubbles [you will see them as they are pushed up].

In any case, hope it sorts out for you.

Grant...


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish
> I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't.
>
> I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help)
> may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll
> build pressure and work fine until I release and try again at which point
> they're back to bottom of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the
> pedal is bottom of the barrel.
>
> I *think* this means the MC needs replacing, what say you?
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[Rich Thomas]

I got an email from him yesterday saying Worldpac was the problem, 
having submitted my order 3x they would/could not process it.  I, like 
Kleb, think that is BS, but that is it.


--R


On 6/12/13 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he 
is unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to 
provide even minimal customer service.


Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you 
if that's the case?


Mitch.

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asking customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

'Zackly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order



On 12/06/2013 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he 
is unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to 
provide even minimal customer service.


Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you 
if that's the case?


Mitch.

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anything. She probably will say nothing unless instructed to do so.
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would have had someone put a message on the phone and the website asking 
customers to hang in there and let him get back on his feet.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 31 May order

[WILTON]

My thoughts, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley" 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 31 May order



Rich Thomas wrote:
I think it is time to give up on this guy.  For whatever reasons he is 
unable to get parts from Worldpac and is unable/unwilling to provide even 
minimal customer service.


Maybe he's in the hospital or something, but why can't Kerri tell you if 
that's the case?


Mitch.

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