Re: [MBZ] poos detailing

2013-09-16 Thread clay
Look into the Griots stuff.  

HF has a workable 6 RA sander/buffer that I just picked up.  I used the 25% 
off coupon.  Original price was $60.  Pick up the velcro pads at HF too.  A 
little less expensive than Griot, but probably the same things.

The SE had a kacked up hood.  Pine sap had eaten the clear away and into the 
color.  The hood looked like a giant had sneezed on it and the boogers cooked 
on.  Felt like it too.  I used a razor to shave the crap off, just to be able 
to get a sort of smooth surface to start with.  That was not good enough.  
Chemicals like isopropyl or other mild solvents did not reduce the cratering 
either.  Then I used the targeted nuclear option.  I got wet/dry sandpaper.  I 
worked up from 1500 to 5000 grit and turned the hood into an opaque disaster.

That done, I washed it up and the wet made it look pretty good.  So, I got out 
the Griot #1 polish and put that on it with the RA.  Then worked up to #3 
polish, followed by the sealant.  It went from heavy damage to very shiny black 
paint.  The pitting is still noticeable, but that is just white spots from 
paint damage.  The surface is smooth as an infants posterior.   The owner will 
eventually have to do a repaint, but for now, the car looks good enough.




clay 

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On Sep 15, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 The hood on my 92 300SD is oxidized bad, it has been repainted at some point 
 and oxidized when the rest of the car has not. I have been meaning to buff it 
 out for a long time but have never got around to it.  Today I washed the car 
 and messed with buffing it.  I just used what I had on hand and it did not 
 work all that well.  I had some turtle wax polishing compound in a quirt 
 bottle and my 9 random orbital buffer.  I buffed on it quite a while and 
 ended up really scrubbing on it by hand in one corner and could tell it was 
 starting to shine up but was going to take many hours and lots of manual 
 scrubbing to get it off. So I gave up till I could get some proper equipment, 
 probably a Harbor Freight regular buffer and something other that Turtle wax. 
  Poos you use a buffer?  I do NOT want to do it by hand, I am way too lazy 
 and hate detailing cars. You use 3m products, right?  What do you recommend 
 to cut down really bad oxidation, followed with a nice wax that will last a 
 long time.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: The ever reliable 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread clay
I am meeting  a local who shares membership in the porsche club.  I will see if 
he knows anything to do with Roger.

clay

On Sep 15, 2013, at 6:01 PM, WILTON wrote:

 BTW, I had no luck trying to find Roger.  'Never could get anybody to answer 
 his home phone; called many different times of day/night.  'Just tried again; 
 no answer.
 
 Wilt
 
 - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: The ever reliable 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is 
 here!
 
 
 Comparatively to older model Benzes or relative to other modern cars?
 Although Roger did go on about how reliable his C300 was/is.
 
 Hendrik
 who has a pretty reliable Benz
 
 On 13/09/13 10:01, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2013 2:57 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
 If the MB quality hadn't dropped so
 far, so fast,
 By all reports it's bounced back since '06.
 
 Alex
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel day

2013-09-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Anybody else make them, like Beru or something?


Bosch, Bosio, and Monark, that I know of. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Diagnosis Confirmation, Please

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I saw one of those when I was searching for a resolution on line...

Dan

On Sep 15, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Peter Frederick wrote:
 It's not really a bad job.  You want a soft faced hammer (plastic) to drive 
 the pulley off it you need to, you don't want to dent it.  You may not need, 
 to, it's been a long time since I replaced one.
 Straight snap ring plier will do the job on the snap ring.  It's pretty 
 deep, but if straight ones won't fit, right angle ones will.
 
 Honda sells (or did in 1986, anyway) a rather nicely forged 90° long skinny 
 circlip plier for pulling the piston retaining clip out of motorcycle master 
 cylinders. Infinitely nicer and stronger than the stamped sheet metal crap 
 pliers. They were about 8 bucks back then.
 
 Mitch.
 
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[MBZ] Another AC Question

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Elder son reports proper operation and cooling, but is hearing regularly spaced 
chirps from engine compartment during operation.

I was thinking slipping belt, but the speed sensor would catch that, right?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve

2013-09-16 Thread Mike Esh

What is PBA?

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On Sep 15, 2013, at 06:12 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:


PBA no ground?

 
Fred Moir

Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.





From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve
Order a monovalve repair kit.  Easy repair job.  Not too expensive.
Gerry
'83 300 and 240D
From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com

1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning.
All heat all the time.  With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not.
When it is plugged in i get both wires hot.  This is the same if i have AC
on or full heat.  If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air.
Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
Thanks,
Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Mike Esh

Nice pictures.  Someday I may make one of these gatherings.

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On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


Well its over and done (well it was over and done yesterday but I'm only now 
recovered enough to post...

I counted 9 cars including a turbo OM616 powered Chevy van. Buncha people (more 
than 9 :) ) and a record number of dogs.

The secret food was my nearly famous dutch oven bbq, this year with sausage 
(both sweet and hot) pork and chicken dry rubbed and then cooked for 3 hours. 
Strangely nobody got a picture of that, you can get an idea from this: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUshllIVSUY except I did 2 pots, one for spicy 
and one for non. We also had burgers, chowda, clamcakes, a world of fruit, 
veggies and pie for the finish.

I got the opportunity to drive John's Astro van (not a bad ride, it'd be better 
if he turned up the IP to support the turbo and move the shifter), Steve's 
immaculate '85 300D and Dimitri's 280SL. Parts were swapped, chowda was 
consumed.

Check it out:
http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013?sort=3page=1



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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the last Q 
standing.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID:
    assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none the 
less.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Nah, we'll get one o' those dog crates and he can ride in the belly of the 
plane. I'm told the ride is smoother there anyway. It'll be easier for him to 
bring snacks too.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:03:01 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID:
    assp.4971c1d5a6.42bb8284-93e4-414e-8743-b26ad6e23...@striplin.net
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You will need 2 plane tickets for Gary 
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Not entirely, Fred still holds the record as the only person to go to all 7 
ChowdaQs.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:07:12 -0400
From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID:
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Got it. Curt founded the first chowdahQ that got rained out.
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh ok I see 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh ok. founders of the chowdahQ
 On Sep 15, 2013 11:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
 the less.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
 On Sep 15, 2013 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
 They should have flown us both in.  Back in the old days, the list
 founders and high officials were always flown in.  Of course they have
 to
 start promoting it months in advance, make a big deal about how we will
 be
 there, then they would have easily had over 100 people show up from all
 over the country.  Hell, I may have to resurrect the okieQ and fly you
 in
 for the event.
 
 
 On 9/15/2013 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 i'm as shocked as you are.  you'd think for all my support of new
 englanders as ok they'd have sent for me!
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
 ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
 What the heck?  Nobody sent me a plane ticket to fly up there, and you
 did
 not at least have a life size standup cardboard likeness of me there?
 Geez.
 
 
 On 9/15/2013 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 Well its over and done (well it was over and done yesterday but I'm
 only
 now recovered enough to post...
 
 I counted 9 cars including a turbo OM616 powered Chevy van. Buncha
 people
 (more than 9 :) ) and a record number of dogs.
 
 The secret food was my nearly famous dutch oven bbq, this year with
 sausage (both sweet and hot) pork and chicken dry rubbed and then
 cooked
 for 3 hours. Strangely nobody got a picture of that, you can get an
 idea
 from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUshllIVSUY
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=GUshllIVSUY
 https://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=**GUshllIVSUY
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUshllIVSUYexcept
 I did 2 pots, one for spicy and one for non. We also had burgers,
 chowda, clamcakes, a world of fruit, veggies and pie for the finish.
 
 I got the opportunity to drive John's Astro van (not a bad ride,
 it'd be
 better if he turned up the IP to support the turbo and move the
 shifter),
 Steve's immaculate '85 300D and Dimitri's 280SL. Parts were swapped,
 chowda
 was consumed.
 
 Check it out:
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/**
 http://s843.photobucket.com/**user/curtludwig/library/**
 ChowdaQ%20VI%202013?sort=3page=1http://s843.**
 photobucket.com/user/**curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%**
 20VI%202013?sort=3page=1
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013?sort=3page=1
 
 
 
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
We have it, but it would normally come in a Campbell's can or something 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:05 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yeah. No Chowdah in Oklahoma!
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh ok. founders of the chowdahQ
 On Sep 15, 2013 11:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
 the less.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
 On Sep 15, 2013 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
 They should have flown us both in.  Back in the old days, the list
 founders and high officials were always flown in.  Of course they have
 to
 start promoting it months in advance, make a big deal about how we will
 be
 there, then they would have easily had over 100 people show up from all
 over the country.  Hell, I may have to resurrect the okieQ and fly you
 in
 for the event.
 
 
 On 9/15/2013 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 i'm as shocked as you are.  you'd think for all my support of new
 englanders as ok they'd have sent for me!
 

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem 

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On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
 non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve

2013-09-16 Thread Frederick Moir
Mike.
Push button assembly.
Jim Cathey (Middle Aged Electronics Guru} can tell you more.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




 From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve
 

What is PBA?

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On Sep 15, 2013, at 06:12 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

 PBA no ground?

  
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.



 
 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve
 Order a monovalve repair kit.  Easy repair job.  Not too expensive.
 Gerry
 '83 300 and 240D
 From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com
 1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning.
 All heat all the time.  With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not.
 When it is plugged in i get both wires hot.  This is the same if i have AC
 on or full heat.  If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air.
 Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
 Thanks,
 Michael E. Esh
 231-286-2344
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Re: [MBZ] Another AC Question

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's probably normal, if its not kicking off the compressor it's probably 
normal.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Elder son reports proper operation and cooling, but is hearing regularly 
 spaced chirps from engine compartment during operation.
 
 I was thinking slipping belt, but the speed sensor would catch that, right?
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes, that seems to be true.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the last Q 
 standing.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 Message-ID:
 assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
 You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none the 
 less.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] Another AC Question

2013-09-16 Thread Jim Cathey
I was thinking slipping belt, but the speed sensor would catch that, 
right?


It has to slip 'enough' to trip the belt-saver.  I imagine there's
still chirping latitude built into the system.  Still, that's not
normal, so either the belt's loose or the high pressure is too
high, if this is indeed AC-induced chirping.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
my absence does not count for true history purposes


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Yes, that seems to be true.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

  We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the last
 Q standing.
 
  -Curt
 
 
  Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
  Message-ID:
  assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
  Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
  You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
 the less.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
  committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
  favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
  That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
i guess we can say that this Q is real then but it couldn't hurt to make me
honorary chairman


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 2005 or 2006 I'm not entirely sure. Gardner, MA. It was raining bad enough
 that Angie and I just went out for the day. I put an email on the list
 late, Fred and some guy from CT (Pete?) didn't get the message until too
 late.

 First ChowdaQ of the modern era was 2008:
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%202008?sort=3page=1

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:38:51 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 Message-ID:
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
 my absence does not count for true history purposes
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
2005 or 2006 I'm not entirely sure. Gardner, MA. It was raining bad enough that 
Angie and I just went out for the day. I put an email on the list late, Fred 
and some guy from CT (Pete?) didn't get the message until too late.

First ChowdaQ of the modern era was 2008: 
http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%202008?sort=3page=1

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:38:51 -0400
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID:
    CACioK3sasnTA=vprhaw93kda13on1tvunbhkpmen8eu2bk0...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
my absence does not count for true history purposes
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh geez Wilton, Dwight wanted to be sure you saw: 
http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/photo13_zps8b640df8.jpg.html?sort=3o=32
to ensure that you knew out chowda was finest kind and had lots of quahogs in 
it.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:44:26 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID: BAA6CF48BA704360BE7D68D735B3011B@wiltonPC
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
    reply-type=original

Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes with coupla 
clams dipped in it briefly.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no idea what branch 
he was with or where or what e was doing over there. I will have to ask my 
mother and see of she knows. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Yep, another Sondy Tale already.
 
 LAKE FERGUSON
 By Wilton Strickland
 
 Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a rectangular-shaped 
 lake visible on Google Earth about a mile and a half across the Watson River 
 and south of the base.  The water was crystal clear and did not get above 
 about 34°F in summer.  Whenever I'd stop by for a visit with the water plant 
 technician, I could look down into the intake well inside the building 
 built over the lake and see nice fish several feet beneath the surface. 
 Usually, the only treatment to the water was to heat it to 56°F before and 
 during the pumping process via an above-ground pipeline to a pump building 
 with a huge holding tank near the center of the main base.  There it was 
 checked regularly (the frequency and type of checks I don't remember) and 
 treated as necessary with addition of chlorine in accordance with federal 
 standards.  The Danish water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had to 
 add chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland ice cap and 
 Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for thousands of years and is 
 probably one of the best and purest water supplies in the world.  The cold 
 water at the faucets around base was so cold that I always had to add some 
 hot water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.
 
 Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me somewhat, though.  A 
 rowing club was active at the lake, and occasionally a rower would briefly go 
 into the water.  On July 4th, a traditional Danish-American Day celebration 
 was also held at the lake and the Rowing Club house.  In addition to the 
 usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, soft drinks, etc., a large 
 part of the traditional celebration was a football game of sorts between the 
 Danish civilian women and the American men.  Check the link:  
 http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.  Tradition also required that anybody who 
 had not been thrown into the lake was going into the lake before day's end.  
 Yes, I went into the lake, and I can definitely attest: its temperature does 
 not get above about 34°F, but I never heard that our domestic water supply 
 needed any additional treatment because of my dunking.
 
 Wilton
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
I have an individual plan.

Looks like what I will be offered will cost 50% more.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem

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 wrote:

  Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
  non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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Re: [MBZ] OT watering deep

2013-09-16 Thread Randy Bennell
The main part of the house was built in 1981. It sits on a full basement 
with footings and a poured concrete wall on top of the footings. The 
house has not moved all that much.
The addition built in 1987 is the issue. It sits on piles - mostly bell 
piles and a couple of straight piles that go a bit deeper due to water 
infiltration when the piles were being drilled and poured. They are the 
ones closest to the original foundation.


The outer edge of the addition has settled. It did not move much for a 
long while but it has given us a bit of grief over the years. We have a 
big maple tree about 10 feet from the house on the front corner. I 
assume it pulls a lot of water out of the ground and that may be one of 
the issues. I am reluctant to remove it because I like trees and it 
provides a lot of shade to the house. We have often found in August that 
the front door begins to rub. Putting the hose out and running a lot of 
water has usually resolved the minimal rubbing on the door. However, we 
have had somewhat drier conditions in the past few years and the result 
is that watering has not helped this past year or two.


The soil has dropped away from the front curb and there is a good 6 
inches of concrete exposed at the street. I would guess that my whole 
yard has dropped about 6 inches. More of the foundation at the house is 
exposed as well.


Running the water on the meter is relatively expensive but we have been 
watering.


I am curious as to whether there is any hope of the soil swelling enough 
to raise us back up a bit. I would be reluctant to spend the money 
necessary to level the house and then have it go the other way and rise 
above where it belongs.


The one good thing about the addition is that it could at least in 
theory be raised relatively easily in my opinion. There is a crawl space 
and the joists are not inbedded in the concrete. There are bolts holding 
it down. The bolts could be loosened off and one could put together a 
laminated beam in the crawl space and then shore it up with cribbing and 
lift with jacks. One would need to do so slowly in order to avoid 
damaging the house but it could be done over time. The stucco and 
sheathing on the exterior would need to be cut to permit the building to 
be lifted from the grade beam. Then one would need to fill the gap and 
repair the sheathing.


I think that I would cut an opening in the floor in the den so that the 
crawl space would be more accessible but that would just mean replacing 
the floor in the den later. It would be a major pain but it could be done.


I would need to consult an engineer to see if that was a good idea or if 
my fears of the house lifting again in a wet period might have an 
legitimacy.


The addition is 10 feet wide and 30 feet long and 2 storeys high. There 
is no plumbing or significant electrical in it etc. The lower part 
consists of the front entry, the back entry hall, a pantry cupboard and 
the den in the middle.
The upper level is a 4th bedroom and a small sitting room that my wife 
uses to watch tv. So no bathrooms, kitchens etc in that part of the 
house and no main electric panel etc.


The AC sits on a concrete extension to the porch at the rear of the 
house and the lines for it run through the crawl space into the basement 
itself to the furnace. The only other mechanical installations are the 
drier vent pipe that runs accross between the joists and a cold air 
intake pipe that feeds into basement to provide combustion air to the 
furnace.


So, as I said doable but a pain and it would be messy.

Randy


On 14/09/2013 4:59 PM, clay wrote:

This seems to have been a problem for the drought struck midwest the past few 
years.  The ground just dried out and houses start to get wonky.  I read 
something about how ungood it was, but since there was no water to spare, no 
good solution.

That said, I would expect you to be able to either soak your foundation area 
about three foot out on a regular (weekly?) basis which would keep the soil 
there moist enough.  Water normally travels down, not out.  It takes time for 
the moisture to travel, and it dries from the top down as well.  If you have 
soaker hoses around the foundation, you probably can run them for a few hours 
each week and the deeper soil will not dry out.  The new water will travel a 
few inches an hour, and if you do evening or overnight watering, the moisture 
will get about two or three feed down by morning.  That would require a very 
large expenditure of water to do.  Best to just keep on it each week, so the 
need for deep watering is not needed.

clay



On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Some of you may recall my query a year or two ago about what I might do about 
too much moisture in my garage.

I did learn that covering the surface of the table saw and jointer out at the 
lake with a sheet of tar paper helped a lot.

I did that last fall and this spring, they were better than the previous year 

[MBZ] Continuing Jetta saga

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Who said I should renew the fuses?


Well it didn't help but its one more thing I know isn't causing my problem.
To review: No horn, headlights, highbeams, daytime running lamps, wipers or 
washer.

Today I replaced all the fuses and proved that the load reduction relay (LRR) 
isn't the problem. The LRR shuts off all of the above (plus the heater fan 
which strangely works) when you start the car. Its a dead simple relay, power 
in switches a hot lead. I pulled the relay and bench tested it, it clicks and 
does its job. To prove it didn't have burned contacts that would provide 
continuity but not pass current I jumpered the connection the relay makes which 
turns on the blower (as it should) but nothing else. Clearly my problem is 
someplace else.

Next game is to start dressing cables behind the fusebox, its a bit of a rats 
nest. I need to find the main fusebox ground and reground it, see if that helps.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm not sure but it seems a sensible position.  like it was just an unreal
bad dream


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 So if it happened when you were not here it didn't really happen, right?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
  my absence does not count for true history purposes
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
  Yes, that seems to be true.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the
 last
  Q standing.
 
  -Curt
 
 
  Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
  Message-ID:
 assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
  Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
  You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
  the less.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
  committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
  favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from
 yours.
  That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well my grandmother would have known but she is gone, my mother 
may know but she is not much of a (family) history buff.


On 9/16/2013 11:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
'May have been at Sondrestrom with Bernt Balken, the founder of 
the base, or at Narsarsuaq, an American WWII base near the 
southern tip that I wrote about in the Sondy Tale Flying with 
the Danish Air Force.  'Would be interesting to know where he was.


Wilton


- Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no 
idea what branch he was with or where or what e was doing over 
there. I will have to ask my mother and see of she knows.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

LAKE FERGUSON
By Wilton Strickland

Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a 
rectangular-shaped lake visible on Google Earth about a mile 
and a half across the Watson River and south of the base.  The 
water was crystal clear and did not get above about 34°F in 
summer.  Whenever I'd stop by for a visit with the water plant 
technician, I could look down into the intake well inside 
the building built over the lake and see nice fish several 
feet beneath the surface. Usually, the only treatment to the 
water was to heat it to 56°F before and during the pumping 
process via an above-ground pipeline to a pump building with a 
huge holding tank near the center of the main base.  There it 
was checked regularly (the frequency and type of checks I 
don't remember) and treated as necessary with addition of 
chlorine in accordance with federal standards.  The Danish 
water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had to add 
chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland 
ice cap and Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for 
thousands of years and is probably one of the best and purest 
water supplies in the world.  The cold water at the faucets 
around base was so cold that I always had to add some hot 
water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.


Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me 
somewhat, though. A rowing club was active at the lake, and 
occasionally a rower would briefly go into the water.  On July 
4th, a traditional Danish-American Day celebration was also 
held at the lake and the Rowing Club house.  In addition to 
the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, soft 
drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was 
a football game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and 
the American men. Check the link: 
http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.  Tradition also required 
that anybody who had not been thrown into the lake was going 
into the lake before day's end.  Yes, I went into the lake, 
and I can definitely attest: its temperature does not get 
above about 34°F, but I never heard that our domestic water 
supply needed any additional treatment because of my dunking.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

Like a tree falling in the woods, and nobody to hear it?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013



So if it happened when you were not here it didn't really happen, right?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:


when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
my absence does not count for true history purposes


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.netwrote:



Yes, that seems to be true.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the 
last

Q standing.


-Curt


Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID:
   assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none

the less.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com

wrote:



Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from 
yours.

That said we'd love to have you here.

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Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread Mitch Haley

Chris James wrote:


Well, there are good dealers  bad dealers (and good  bad service/parts
departments).

Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous 
service history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the 
up-selling  improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic 
shocks are $$$ (just by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no 
surprise there.


Yes, if he let them know that he'd run the diagnostics himself, they wouldn't 
have tried to rip him off (this time) and he wouldn't have learned that they 
tried to rip people off. Myself, I think it was a lesson worth learning.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT:NYPD

2013-09-16 Thread mlh
Earlier this month, I suggested that the police accuracy standard was to
empty a 17 round magazine to score two hits on cops and bystanders and one
hit on the suspect. And somebody, I think it was Craig, suggested that I
was describing the NYPD standards.

Well, this weekend, two NYPD officers proved that they are capable of much
better accuracy and restraint than expected when they scored hits on two
bystanders with only three rounds fired. They even quit shooting with
dozens of cartridges left in their sidearms when the suspect ran away
unscathed.

http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/cops-accidentally-shoot-two-bystanders-while-trying-to-subdue-man/

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So if it happened when you were not here it didn't really happen, right?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
 my absence does not count for true history purposes
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
 
 Yes, that seems to be true.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the last
 Q standing.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 Message-ID:
assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
 You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
 the less.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sort of like the year bobby was dead on Dallas.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i'm not sure but it seems a sensible position.  like it was just an unreal
 bad dream
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
 
 So if it happened when you were not here it didn't really happen, right?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs during
 my absence does not count for true history purposes
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
 Yes, that seems to be true.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the
 last
 Q standing.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 Message-ID:
   assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
 You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
 the less.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
 committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
 favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from
 yours.
 That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread Craig
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:50:09 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

Thank you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tah DAH! Jetta...

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Excellent! Gotta love those cheap fixes, even if they require a lot of calories 
burned.

Dan

On Sep 16, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Found it!
 
 Many folks on the TDI side kept directing me back to the fuse box diagram: 
 http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
 and today after replacing the fuses I finally took time to look at it and 
 figure out how the diagram worked. I went through charting every ground 
 figuring this problem had all the hallmarks of a bad ground. I'd go out and 
 poke around a little, identify the main ground, check that it was good, come 
 back look again.
 
 Finally I noticed that H1, H2 and J seemed to have pins for everything that 
 didn't work so I knew I had to focus in there. Got the box down where I could 
 see it good and wadday know, J is unplugged... It took a lot of prodding to 
 figure out how to get it reconnected, theres a crossbar safety, how it ever 
 got out is a mystery to me...
 
 Anyway go it in and immediately knew I'd hit it as the flashers came on when 
 I connected the battery. Horn didn't work but I figured that out quick enough 
 when I could see the electrical connection not touching the steering wheel. 
 Hadta crank the wheel down a couple more turns even though it was already 
 pretty tight.
 Got all the dash buttoned back up, theres one steering cover that had a 
 broken screw post that I'm still working on, I'd fixed it but hadn't 
 investigated how the thing went back together. Need to fix it more 
 better-er.
 
 Anyway just need to replace the coolant distribution pipe and tighten up 
 the parking brake. Get the plates moved over from the 240D and we're ready to 
 rock. Oh, it might need tires too. Certainly does before winter but I think 
 the ones on it are good enough to get started with.
 
 -Curt
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[MBZ] (no subject)

2013-09-16 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt.
Recharged from the Q you aced it, again!
Mercedes and VW are made of steel and copper and plastic and blood, sweat and 
tears.
Well done.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Tah DAH! Jetta...

2013-09-16 Thread Dwight Giles
Way to go Curt. See what a couple days away from it did?
On Sep 16, 2013 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Found it!

 Many folks on the TDI side kept directing me back to the fuse box diagram:
 http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
 and today after replacing the fuses I finally took time to look at it and
 figure out how the diagram worked. I went through charting every ground
 figuring this problem had all the hallmarks of a bad ground. I'd go out and
 poke around a little, identify the main ground, check that it was good,
 come back look again.

 Finally I noticed that H1, H2 and J seemed to have pins for everything
 that didn't work so I knew I had to focus in there. Got the box down where
 I could see it good and wadday know, J is unplugged... It took a lot of
 prodding to figure out how to get it reconnected, theres a crossbar safety,
 how it ever got out is a mystery to me...

 Anyway go it in and immediately knew I'd hit it as the flashers came on
 when I connected the battery. Horn didn't work but I figured that out quick
 enough when I could see the electrical connection not touching the steering
 wheel. Hadta crank the wheel down a couple more turns even though it was
 already pretty tight.
 Got all the dash buttoned back up, theres one steering cover that had a
 broken screw post that I'm still working on, I'd fixed it but hadn't
 investigated how the thing went back together. Need to fix it more
 better-er.

 Anyway just need to replace the coolant distribution pipe and tighten up
 the parking brake. Get the plates moved over from the 240D and we're ready
 to rock. Oh, it might need tires too. Certainly does before winter but I
 think the ones on it are good enough to get started with.

 -Curt
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[MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist will 
work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket 
equivalent.

I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door latch 
assembly with one on it...

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 12, 2013 1:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote:

 The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers!

 It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at
 28/45 MPG!

I am not paying $55,000 for a four-cylinder car.  Now a smooth little
2.1-liter straight six, on the other hand...

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT:NYPD

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
Meanwhile mayor is still on his crusade to end gun violence but can't seem
to reign in his own PD.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:50 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Earlier this month, I suggested that the police accuracy standard was to
 empty a 17 round magazine to score two hits on cops and bystanders and one
 hit on the suspect. And somebody, I think it was Craig, suggested that I
 was describing the NYPD standards.

 Well, this weekend, two NYPD officers proved that they are capable of much
 better accuracy and restraint than expected when they scored hits on two
 bystanders with only three rounds fired. They even quit shooting with
 dozens of cartridges left in their sidearms when the suspect ran away
 unscathed.


 http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/cops-accidentally-shoot-two-bystanders-while-trying-to-subdue-man/

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] monark VS bosch injector nozzles

2013-09-16 Thread Jon Agne
I've been hearing from reputable sources that the Bosio nozzles are best now


On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

 I saw the discussion about Jaime's new monarks, etc.
 
 As i understand it, the Monark nozzles are the only ones still made in 
 Germany  the new Bosch come from India now, i am told.
 
 I've also been told that the Bosh factory rebuilds have inconsistent pop 
 pressures and bad spray patterns but i don't know that personally.
 
 The WVO folks swear by the Monark. I am running a set of Monarks in my 1982 
 300td. I set them up with increased pop pressure for running WVO.
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
oh, well, that's ok.  as long as you aren't including any of them in the
recipe!


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Gary.
 Nah! We just stole the recipe for clam chowdah from them, and everything
 else.

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.



 
  From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 
 
 you put indians in the soup?
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Oh geez Wilton, Dwight wanted to be sure you saw:
 
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/photo13_zps8b640df8.jpg.html?sort=3o=32
  to ensure that you knew out chowda was finest kind and had lots of
 quahogs
  in it.
 
  -Curt
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
'May have been at Sondrestrom with Bernt Balken, the founder of the base, or 
at Narsarsuaq, an American WWII base near the southern tip that I wrote 
about in the Sondy Tale Flying with the Danish Air Force.  'Would be 
interesting to know where he was.


Wilton


- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no idea what 
branch he was with or where or what e was doing over there. I will have to 
ask my mother and see of she knows.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

LAKE FERGUSON
By Wilton Strickland

Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a 
rectangular-shaped lake visible on Google Earth about a mile and a half 
across the Watson River and south of the base.  The water was crystal 
clear and did not get above about 34°F in summer.  Whenever I'd stop by 
for a visit with the water plant technician, I could look down into the 
intake well inside the building built over the lake and see nice fish 
several feet beneath the surface. Usually, the only treatment to the 
water was to heat it to 56°F before and during the pumping process via an 
above-ground pipeline to a pump building with a huge holding tank near 
the center of the main base.  There it was checked regularly (the 
frequency and type of checks I don't remember) and treated as necessary 
with addition of chlorine in accordance with federal standards.  The 
Danish water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had to add 
chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland ice cap and 
Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for thousands of years and is 
probably one of the best and purest water supplies in the world.  The 
cold water at the faucets around base was so cold that I always had to 
add some hot water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.


Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me somewhat, though. 
A rowing club was active at the lake, and occasionally a rower would 
briefly go into the water.  On July 4th, a traditional Danish-American 
Day celebration was also held at the lake and the Rowing Club house.  In 
addition to the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, soft 
drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was a football 
game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and the American men. 
Check the link:  http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.  Tradition also 
required that anybody who had not been thrown into the lake was going 
into the lake before day's end.  Yes, I went into the lake, and I can 
definitely attest: its temperature does not get above about 34°F, but I 
never heard that our domestic water supply needed any additional 
treatment because of my dunking.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes with coupla 
clams dipped in it briefly.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013



We have it, but it would normally come in a Campbell's can or something

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:05 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:


Yeah. No Chowdah in Oklahoma!


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Oh ok. founders of the chowdahQ
On Sep 15, 2013 11:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net 
wrote:



You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun none
the less.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from 
yours.

That said we'd love to have you here.
On Sep 15, 2013 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

wrote:



They should have flown us both in.  Back in the old days, the list
founders and high officials were always flown in.  Of course they 
have

to
start promoting it months in advance, make a big deal about how we 
will

be
there, then they would have easily had over 100 people show up from 
all
over the country.  Hell, I may have to resurrect the okieQ and fly 
you

in

for the event.


On 9/15/2013 9:28 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


i'm as shocked as you are.  you'd think for all my support of new
englanders as ok they'd have sent for me!



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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
I have fond memories of visiting my great aunt and uncle and hearing about
days gone by from the 1930s-1940s.  One of the most humorous things as a
youngster was when I saw a picture of them before they had white hair.  I
had never thought about it before because their hair had turned white
before I was born.  I think for some the war days would be things they may
not wish to recall so not asking does not seem like a big deal.  Neither of
my grandfathers ever talked about it.

On Monday, September 16, 2013, WILTON wrote:

 Yes, I know the feeling well.  As children, teen agers and young adults,
 we are  too concerned about other things - educatrion, making a living,
 raising our own children, etc., - to realize how important history, even
 our personal family histories, can be later.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


  Plus, I would have just asked him but he died in 93, and back then I was
 not worried about asking such questions.  When you look back at your life
 and your family, there are so many things you would have liked to have
 talked about or asked them whey they were around, but were to young and
 stupid to think about it.

 On 9/16/2013 11:26 AM, WILTON wrote:

 'May have been at Sondrestrom with Bernt Balken, the founder of the
 base, or at Narsarsuaq, an American WWII base near the southern tip that I
 wrote about in the Sondy Tale Flying with the Danish Air Force.  'Would
 be interesting to know where he was.

 Wilton


 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


  You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no idea what
 branch he was with or where or what e was doing over there. I will have to
 ask my mother and see of she knows.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

 LAKE FERGUSON
 By Wilton Strickland

 Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a
 rectangular-shaped lake visible on Google Earth about a mile and a half
 across the Watson River and south of the base.  The water was crystal 
 clear
 and did not get above about 34°F in summer.  Whenever I'd stop by for a
 visit with the water plant technician, I could look down into the intake
 well inside the building built over the lake and see nice fish several
 feet beneath the surface. Usually, the only treatment to the water was to
 heat it to 56°F before and during the pumping process via an above-ground
 pipeline to a pump building with a huge holding tank near the center of 
 the
 main base.  There it was checked regularly (the frequency and type of
 checks I don't remember) and treated as necessary with addition of 
 chlorine
 in accordance with federal standards.  The Danish water plant manager told
 me that he seldom ever had to add chlorine.  Most of this water is ice 
 melt
 from the Greenland ice cap and Russell Glacier where it has been frozen 
 for
 thousands of years and is probably one of the best and purest water
 supplies in the world. The cold water at the faucets around base was so
 cold that I always had to add some hot water to keep the cold water from
 hurting my hands.

 Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me somewhat,
 though. A rowing club was active at the lake, and occasionally a rower
 would briefly go into the water.  On July 4th, a traditional
 Danish-American Day celebration was also held at the lake and the Rowing
 Club house. In addition to the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, 
 hamburgers,
 beer, soft drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was a
 football game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and the American
 men. Check the link: 
 http://sondrestrom.com/folks.**htmlhttp://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.
 Tradition also required that anybody who had not been thrown into the lake
 was going into the lake before day's end.  Yes, I went into the lake, and 
 I
 can definitely attest: its temperature does not get above about 34°F, but 
 I
 never heard that our domestic water supply needed any additional treatment
 because of my dunking.

 Wilton


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[MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

LAKE FERGUSON
By Wilton Strickland

Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a rectangular-shaped 
lake visible on Google Earth about a mile and a half across the Watson River 
and south of the base.  The water was crystal clear and did not get above 
about 34°F in summer.  Whenever I'd stop by for a visit with the water plant 
technician, I could look down into the intake well inside the building 
built over the lake and see nice fish several feet beneath the surface. 
Usually, the only treatment to the water was to heat it to 56°F before and 
during the pumping process via an above-ground pipeline to a pump building 
with a huge holding tank near the center of the main base.  There it was 
checked regularly (the frequency and type of checks I don't remember) and 
treated as necessary with addition of chlorine in accordance with federal 
standards.  The Danish water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had 
to add chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland ice cap 
and Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for thousands of years and is 
probably one of the best and purest water supplies in the world.  The cold 
water at the faucets around base was so cold that I always had to add some 
hot water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.


Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me somewhat, though.  A 
rowing club was active at the lake, and occasionally a rower would briefly 
go into the water.  On July 4th, a traditional Danish-American Day 
celebration was also held at the lake and the Rowing Club house.  In 
addition to the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, soft 
drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was a football 
game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and the American men.  Check 
the link:  http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.  Tradition also required that 
anybody who had not been thrown into the lake was going into the lake before 
day's end.  Yes, I went into the lake, and I can definitely attest: its 
temperature does not get above about 34°F, but I never heard that our 
domestic water supply needed any additional treatment because of my dunking.


Wilton


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[MBZ] Tah DAH! Jetta...

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Found it!

Many folks on the TDI side kept directing me back to the fuse box diagram: 
http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
and today after replacing the fuses I finally took time to look at it and 
figure out how the diagram worked. I went through charting every ground 
figuring this problem had all the hallmarks of a bad ground. I'd go out and 
poke around a little, identify the main ground, check that it was good, come 
back look again.

Finally I noticed that H1, H2 and J seemed to have pins for everything that 
didn't work so I knew I had to focus in there. Got the box down where I could 
see it good and wadday know, J is unplugged... It took a lot of prodding to 
figure out how to get it reconnected, theres a crossbar safety, how it ever got 
out is a mystery to me...

Anyway go it in and immediately knew I'd hit it as the flashers came on when I 
connected the battery. Horn didn't work but I figured that out quick enough 
when I could see the electrical connection not touching the steering wheel. 
Hadta crank the wheel down a couple more turns even though it was already 
pretty tight.
Got all the dash buttoned back up, theres one steering cover that had a broken 
screw post that I'm still working on, I'd fixed it but hadn't investigated how 
the thing went back together. Need to fix it more better-er.

Anyway just need to replace the coolant distribution pipe and tighten up the 
parking brake. Get the plates moved over from the 240D and we're ready to rock. 
Oh, it might need tires too. Certainly does before winter but I think the ones 
on it are good enough to get started with.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread Chris James


Well, there are good dealers  bad dealers (and good  bad service/parts
departments).

Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous 
service history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the 
up-selling  improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic 
shocks are $$$ (just by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no 
surprise there.


If you can afford it, I don't see why a new Mercedes diesel should not
be considered  enjoyed. The cars now going on 20-30 years are certainly
not issue or trouble free  with far more expensive bits that are
needing to be replaced then a new car off the lot would have! :-)


On 9/15/2013 10:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Date: 9/15/2013 8:48 PM


I think Kaleb provided a very good reason earlier when he informed us
as to the level of service received at the local dealer. These things
are as complicated as a modern petrol burner and as such will more
than likely have as many issues, in their electronic management
systems and will have expensive bits that are needing to be replaced
on a regular basis. Anyone that things they will get old school
mechanical Diesel reliability out of these things, could be
mistaken. Then there is the question of how much more these will
cost, compared to a similar MB with a petrol engine?

Hendrik who will not be buying a bluetec



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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
Yes, I know the feeling well.  As children, teen agers and young adults, we 
are  too concerned about other things - educatrion, making a living, raising 
our own children, etc., - to realize how important history, even our 
personal family histories, can be later.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


Plus, I would have just asked him but he died in 93, and back then I was 
not worried about asking such questions.  When you look back at your life 
and your family, there are so many things you would have liked to have 
talked about or asked them whey they were around, but were to young and 
stupid to think about it.


On 9/16/2013 11:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
'May have been at Sondrestrom with Bernt Balken, the founder of the base, 
or at Narsarsuaq, an American WWII base near the southern tip that I 
wrote about in the Sondy Tale Flying with the Danish Air Force.  'Would 
be interesting to know where he was.


Wilton


- Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no idea what 
branch he was with or where or what e was doing over there. I will have 
to ask my mother and see of she knows.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

LAKE FERGUSON
By Wilton Strickland

Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a 
rectangular-shaped lake visible on Google Earth about a mile and a half 
across the Watson River and south of the base.  The water was crystal 
clear and did not get above about 34°F in summer.  Whenever I'd stop by 
for a visit with the water plant technician, I could look down into the 
intake well inside the building built over the lake and see nice fish 
several feet beneath the surface. Usually, the only treatment to the 
water was to heat it to 56°F before and during the pumping process via 
an above-ground pipeline to a pump building with a huge holding tank 
near the center of the main base.  There it was checked regularly (the 
frequency and type of checks I don't remember) and treated as necessary 
with addition of chlorine in accordance with federal standards.  The 
Danish water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had to add 
chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland ice cap 
and Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for thousands of years and 
is probably one of the best and purest water supplies in the world. 
The cold water at the faucets around base was so cold that I always had 
to add some hot water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.


Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me somewhat, though. 
A rowing club was active at the lake, and occasionally a rower would 
briefly go into the water.  On July 4th, a traditional Danish-American 
Day celebration was also held at the lake and the Rowing Club house. 
In addition to the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, 
soft drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was a 
football game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and the 
American men. Check the link: http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html. 
Tradition also required that anybody who had not been thrown into the 
lake was going into the lake before day's end.  Yes, I went into the 
lake, and I can definitely attest: its temperature does not get above 
about 34°F, but I never heard that our domestic water supply needed any 
additional treatment because of my dunking.


Wilton


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[MBZ] Trunk Triangle

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Got a triangle from someone on Benzworld last week but they didn't have the 
W140 clip.

Frank Peele on the Hitler list needed one for his W126, so I sent him the one 
that came with the triangle. Call it a hunch, but I don't think he'll be 
thanking me publicly there.

Got the W140 clip from my dealer parts guy and got everything installed the 
other night.

Now I have a nice reflective triangle on my trunk lid AND my trunk lid doesn't 
try and go into orbit when I release it.

Nice.

Dan
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[MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey

2013-09-16 Thread Mike Esh

Mike Esh wrote 

1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning.
All heat all the time.  With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one not.
When it is plugged in i get both wires hot.  This is the same if i have AC
on or full heat.  If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold air.
Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
Thanks,



Jim,
Could this be the push button unit?  The mono valve was rebuilt with a new kit 
12 months ago.  Is there a test to determine what is not working?  Do you still 
repair PBU'?s

Michael E. Esh
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(C) 231.286.2344
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
EXACTLY!

until someone comes and sees me nekkid in the shower and realizes that it
was all a dream, there is no chowdahQ


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Sort of like the year bobby was dead on Dallas.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  i'm not sure but it seems a sensible position.  like it was just an
 unreal
  bad dream
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
  So if it happened when you were not here it didn't really happen, right?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  when was the first chowdaQ?  i'm wondering if anything that occurs
 during
  my absence does not count for true history purposes
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
 ka...@striplin.net
  wrote:
 
  Yes, that seems to be true.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  We're the founders of the ChowdaQ. In fact I consider us to be the
  last
  Q standing.
 
  -Curt
 
 
  Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:02:22 -0500
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
  Message-ID:
assp.8971a52c65.0806ce90-5035-4fcf-958a-68cfbce87...@striplin.net
 
  Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
  You are the founders? Not the last time I checked. Sounds like fun
 none
  the less.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Well kaleb how about 50.00parts credit for okie benz for each of the
  committee members? Then we might do a cardboard cutout of you  your
  favorite benz. We are the founders  our memory is different from
  yours.
  That said we'd love to have you here.
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have used that to find cars that might have what I need then drive there. 
Some if them are hit and miss as far as dealing with people over the Internet 
or phone and shipping. Some of them have an entire shipping dept and ship stuff 
all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

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 there is also car-parts.com, a junkyard database  junkyard guys tend to be
 pretty skeevy but you can normally get something like that at reasonable
 cost with good reliability after a few conversations.  i got a daewoo
 seatbelt from a guy in macon who was as courteous and professional as could
 be and delivered a part in outstanding shape in 3 days, but i have to call
 5 other guys between me (then in snellville) and macon to finally get to
 someone who seemed to be capable of delivering
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
 will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket
 equivalent.
 
 I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door
 latch assembly with one on it...
 
 Dan
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[MBZ] Complete CL idiot!

2013-09-16 Thread clay
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4032044792.html

I have no idea how much crack this guy is on.  But that car is ugly and has no 
title


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] OT:NYPD

2013-09-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Very sad.  I believe that this type of occurrence reflects on the poor
firearms training NYPD officers receive.  My SIL is a NYPD Officer, and I
hear his criticisms of the training.  He spends his own money and time for
additional practice, which I'm sure many won't do.  Many years back I
happened to be at a range where NYPD was doing their transition training
from revolvers to semi-auto pistols.  Their reload drill was pathetic.  I
could easily have reloaded a revolver faster than ANY of the NYPD on the
firing line were able to drop an empty mag and replace with a full one!

The combination of the lack of training plus a bystander shouting that the
alleged perp had a gun led to predictable tragedy.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT:NYPD

Earlier this month, I suggested that the police accuracy standard was to
empty a 17 round magazine to score two hits on cops and bystanders and one
hit on the suspect. And somebody, I think it was Craig, suggested that I was
describing the NYPD standards.

Well, this weekend, two NYPD officers proved that they are capable of much
better accuracy and restraint than expected when they scored hits on two
bystanders with only three rounds fired. They even quit shooting with dozens
of cartridges left in their sidearms when the suspect ran away unscathed.

http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/cops-accidentally-shoot-two-bystanders-while-tr
ying-to-subdue-man/

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling

2013-09-16 Thread G Mann
Some people refuse Novocaine for a root canal... some faint at the first
view of the sign that says Dentist... the range of individual capacity to
cope with professionally applied pain through repeated sessions in the
hands of a truly sadistic and practiced individual in employ of the forces
of evil.

There is a point for everyone where you will sell you sister rather than
endure another second of it.  The trick however is, the person hurting you
enjoys it and does not want to stop.. at all.. Even when you pass out.
When you sing like a little girl.. tell all.. make up things to tell them
even more, with the expectation the torture will stop... it does not.

The cat and mouse game that is played out in that repeat/repeat/repeat.. in
the mind of the person receiving multiple sessions of torture then becomes,
what can I say or do that will make this sadist stop..

Thus.. your full and complete confession bought you nothing of value..
so... why give it to begin with..

Resist ... at least when you finally die.. and you will... the opposition
will always wonder what they could have done to open you up and get the
secret you were hiding... but they never got..  Silence has become the
only weapon you possess... use it.  Or not... your option..

The list of those who rolled over and gave everything and received freedom
is rather short.. isn't it?

Did the main bone breaker at Hanoi Hilton drive a Mercedes [to preserve
Mercedes content].

Grant...


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 let me ask you a question, as a veteran and apparently one of vietnam.
 prisoners at the hanoi hilton all agreed that a man could be made to sign
 or so anything as a result of torture and every man is eventually broken.
 there was, however, a dispute as to how to treat this recognition.  on the
 one side, stockdale insisted that even though you knew you were going to be
 broken, you must resist for as long as you possibly could.  kittinger
 argued that as resistance is futile, save yourself the waste of energy and
 physical and mental damage from the torture and sign whatever they wanted
 you to sign right away.  as stockdale was the senior officer (although if
 there was recognition of coolness points, kittinger would certainly have
 been head man), his way became policy

 i personally agree strongly with kittinger on this and would like to know
 what your view is regarding which method is correct


 On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:47 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Military Intelligence  ;))
 
  But... hey.. if you are on the ground.. you just had a multimillion
 dollar
  fighter shot from under you, took a Martin Baker rocket assist ejection
  seat ride through the canopy, likely broke your arms or legs.. maybe your
  back.. and fell a few thousand feet in to hostile indian country...where
  you have just pickled off a load of 500 lb bombs.. short of a company
  of Marines standing ready as a personal honor guard.. you could never
 have
  a big enough gun... so in the words of Hillary Neva Bin Laid Clinton...
  what difference does it make...
 
  There was some speculation that it was a military issue form of cyanide
  pill.. you fire 5 rounds to attract attention and die in the resultant
  attack speculative.. of course.. after a cold beverage...
  I recall ammo was plentiful and the beverage cans never left alive...
 
  Grant...
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   he made claim that he was issued a small frame shot barrel revolver.
   from
   his description it would be a J frame with a 2 or shorter barrel.
  maybe
   he was issued a 4 inch barrel K frame.  so we are talking about
 different
   guns
  
   as for shooting your way out surrounded by your highly armed enemy, i
  don't
   think it's going to matter a while hill of beans whether you are
 toting a
   1911 or a k frame revolver.  neither will get you out and both leave
 you
   relatively unarmed
  
   however, if you were telling me we were going to have a gun fight and
   offered for me to choose my weapon i'd pick the 1911 and let you have
  the
   revolver every time.  i am unclear on why the air force chose to issue
   revolvers as well
  
  
   On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:39 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
  
We may be talking apples and oranges.. or we may be talking only
  apples..
Apparently.. crew issue sidearms were at the discretion of the armory
  at
the departing base.  Some flight crews were issued S  W, K frame/4
  inch
barrel/6 round revolvers.. which was authorized issue.  Others had
  access
to the more desired Colt 1911 which were, sometimes available...
  Other
crews were permitted to arm themselves with personally owned
 weapons..
  at
the discretion of the commanding officer.. most likely..
   
Rank, after all.. has it's privilege, and Flight Officers did what
 they
did.  In Wilton's case.. what ever happened 

Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
'Wouldn't mind having a nearly showroom '87 300 SDL - not black, though I 
used to think that was the most appropriate color for 'em 'til got 18 years 
of first-hand education.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!



On Sep 12, 2013 1:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote:


The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers!

It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at
28/45 MPG!


I am not paying $55,000 for a four-cylinder car.  Now a smooth little
2.1-liter straight six, on the other hand...

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
you put indians in the soup?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Oh geez Wilton, Dwight wanted to be sure you saw:
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/photo13_zps8b640df8.jpg.html?sort=3o=32
 to ensure that you knew out chowda was finest kind and had lots of quahogs
 in it.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:44:26 -0400
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 Message-ID: BAA6CF48BA704360BE7D68D735B3011B@wiltonPC
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
 reply-type=original

 Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes with
 coupla
 clams dipped in it briefly.

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
I saw it, and I'm very well impressed - lotsa REAL clams.  I was looking for 
them.


Potato soup with dipped clams was referring to the stuff Kaleb and I get.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013


Oh geez Wilton, Dwight wanted to be sure you saw: 
http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/photo13_zps8b640df8.jpg.html?sort=3o=32
to ensure that you knew out chowda was finest kind and had lots of quahogs 
in it.


-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:44:26 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
Message-ID: BAA6CF48BA704360BE7D68D735B3011B@wiltonPC
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes with coupla
clams dipped in it briefly.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I would think that a micro switch is a generic electronic part that could be
sourced from one of the good online sources for less than $5??

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:16 PM
To: Okie Benz
Subject: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket
equivalent.

I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door latch
assembly with one on it...

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Ever heard of Prime Auto Parts in Ft. Lauderdale?

They have one for $50.

Dan

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 there is also car-parts.com, a junkyard database  junkyard guys tend to be
 pretty skeevy but you can normally get something like that at reasonable
 cost with good reliability after a few conversations.  i got a daewoo
 seatbelt from a guy in macon who was as courteous and professional as could
 be and delivered a part in outstanding shape in 3 days, but i have to call
 5 other guys between me (then in snellville) and macon to finally get to
 someone who seemed to be capable of delivering
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
 will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket
 equivalent.
 
 I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door
 latch assembly with one on it...
 
 Dan
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[MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like that 
stuff used to be good

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Toscano wrote:

Individual.

I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.

If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
still available. lol.




But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health insurance 
as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health insurance, he said 
health care, and we assumed he meant to say insurance but he really meant we 
could keep our existing doctors.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON
skeevy?  Any relation to shifty, sleezy and creepy?  Did figure it out, 
anyway, inspite of my sheltered state university and USAF education?   ;)


Wilt

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch



there is also car-parts.com, a junkyard database  junkyard guys tend to be
pretty skeevy but you can normally get something like that at reasonable
cost with good reliability after a few conversations.  i got a daewoo
seatbelt from a guy in macon who was as courteous and professional as 
could

be and delivered a part in outstanding shape in 3 days, but i have to call
5 other guys between me (then in snellville) and macon to finally get to
someone who seemed to be capable of delivering


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no 
aftermarket

equivalent.

I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door
latch assembly with one on it...

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Hurst
there is also car-parts.com, a junkyard database  junkyard guys tend to be
pretty skeevy but you can normally get something like that at reasonable
cost with good reliability after a few conversations.  i got a daewoo
seatbelt from a guy in macon who was as courteous and professional as could
be and delivered a part in outstanding shape in 3 days, but i have to call
5 other guys between me (then in snellville) and macon to finally get to
someone who seemed to be capable of delivering


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
 will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket
 equivalent.

 I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door
 latch assembly with one on it...

 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel day

2013-09-16 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

On Sep 15, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Anybody else make them, like Beru or something?



Bosch, Bosio, and Monark, that I know of. 


Thanks.
I believe Bosio was what I was thinking of.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread MG
They actually dip clams in there now? used to just whisper 
clams across the top of the kettle.


Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:44:26 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes 
with coupla

clams dipped in it briefly.

Wilton

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[MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread Bob Rentfro
What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
running?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Hattaway
13.7-14.2 volts, or so.






 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
 

What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
running?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread Bob Rentfro
I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 13.7-14.2 volts, or so.





 
  From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery


 What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
 running?

 Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Make sure the wiring to the alternator is good -- no battery voltage  
to the coil will get you zero output, it's not a generator!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] interesting 140 video

2013-09-16 Thread Chris James

Enjoyed watching that! You always find the best vids to share with us! :-)


On 9/14/2013 12:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Date: 9/14/2013 10:45
AM



too bad it is not in english though.  I love the portable test
computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQnuI0iu5k



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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

Yeah, 'could be not much more than that.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: MG trainpain2...@aol.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013


They actually dip clams in there now? used to just whisper 
clams across the top of the kettle.


Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:44:26 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

Yeah, the same stuff I've renamed Potato Soup; lotsa potatoes 
with coupla

clams dipped in it briefly.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

Oops!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery



I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote:


13.7-14.2 volts, or so.






 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery


What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
running?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Complete CL idiot!

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

'Nother goodun, Grant.   :)

Wilt

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Complete CL idiot!



Craigslist Code Translation:
Mid level drug dealer needs to sell hot car to make bail and legal fees.
Car only is for sale, any drugs or guns found in car go to the working
girls who funded the paint job and interior work.
Email me for information on picking up string on the working girls.. I'll
be up-state for quite a while after the trial and plea bargain is over.
You will need your own connections for title paperwork.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4032044792.html

I have no idea how much crack this guy is on.  But that car is ugly and
has no title


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Tah DAH! Jetta...

2013-09-16 Thread WILTON

ATTABOY!!

Wilt

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To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:01 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Tah DAH! Jetta...


Found it!

Many folks on the TDI side kept directing me back to the fuse box diagram: 
http://www.a2resource.com/electrical/CE2.html
and today after replacing the fuses I finally took time to look at it and 
figure out how the diagram worked. I went through charting every ground 
figuring this problem had all the hallmarks of a bad ground. I'd go out and 
poke around a little, identify the main ground, check that it was good, come 
back look again.


Finally I noticed that H1, H2 and J seemed to have pins for everything that 
didn't work so I knew I had to focus in there. Got the box down where I 
could see it good and wadday know, J is unplugged... It took a lot of 
prodding to figure out how to get it reconnected, theres a crossbar safety, 
how it ever got out is a mystery to me...


Anyway go it in and immediately knew I'd hit it as the flashers came on when 
I connected the battery. Horn didn't work but I figured that out quick 
enough when I could see the electrical connection not touching the steering 
wheel. Hadta crank the wheel down a couple more turns even though it was 
already pretty tight.
Got all the dash buttoned back up, theres one steering cover that had a 
broken screw post that I'm still working on, I'd fixed it but hadn't 
investigated how the thing went back together. Need to fix it more 
better-er.


Anyway just need to replace the coolant distribution pipe and tighten up 
the parking brake. Get the plates moved over from the 240D and we're ready 
to rock. Oh, it might need tires too. Certainly does before winter but I 
think the ones on it are good enough to get started with.


-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Plus, I would have just asked him but he died in 93, and back then 
I was not worried about asking such questions.  When you look back 
at your life and your family, there are so many things you would 
have liked to have talked about or asked them whey they were 
around, but were to young and stupid to think about it.


On 9/16/2013 11:26 AM, WILTON wrote:
'May have been at Sondrestrom with Bernt Balken, the founder of 
the base, or at Narsarsuaq, an American WWII base near the 
southern tip that I wrote about in the Sondy Tale Flying with 
the Danish Air Force.  'Would be interesting to know where he was.


Wilton


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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Sondy Tale


You know I believe my grandfather was in Greenland. I have no 
idea what branch he was with or where or what e was doing over 
there. I will have to ask my mother and see of she knows.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:50 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yep, another Sondy Tale already.

LAKE FERGUSON
By Wilton Strickland

Our water reservoir at Sondrestrom was Lake Ferguson, a 
rectangular-shaped lake visible on Google Earth about a mile 
and a half across the Watson River and south of the base.  The 
water was crystal clear and did not get above about 34°F in 
summer.  Whenever I'd stop by for a visit with the water plant 
technician, I could look down into the intake well inside 
the building built over the lake and see nice fish several 
feet beneath the surface. Usually, the only treatment to the 
water was to heat it to 56°F before and during the pumping 
process via an above-ground pipeline to a pump building with a 
huge holding tank near the center of the main base.  There it 
was checked regularly (the frequency and type of checks I 
don't remember) and treated as necessary with addition of 
chlorine in accordance with federal standards.  The Danish 
water plant manager told me that he seldom ever had to add 
chlorine.  Most of this water is ice melt from the Greenland 
ice cap and Russell Glacier where it has been frozen for 
thousands of years and is probably one of the best and purest 
water supplies in the world.  The cold water at the faucets 
around base was so cold that I always had to add some hot 
water to keep the cold water from hurting my hands.


Summer recreational activities at the lake worried me 
somewhat, though. A rowing club was active at the lake, and 
occasionally a rower would briefly go into the water.  On July 
4th, a traditional Danish-American Day celebration was also 
held at the lake and the Rowing Club house.  In addition to 
the usual July 4th fair of hot dogs, hamburgers, beer, soft 
drinks, etc., a large part of the traditional celebration was 
a football game of sorts between the Danish civilian women and 
the American men. Check the link: 
http://sondrestrom.com/folks.html.  Tradition also required 
that anybody who had not been thrown into the lake was going 
into the lake before day's end.  Yes, I went into the lake, 
and I can definitely attest: its temperature does not get 
above about 34°F, but I never heard that our domestic water 
supply needed any additional treatment because of my dunking.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] AC Issues

2013-09-16 Thread MG
Good going. But if life is any teacher then I have to say you 
will at some time more then likely be doing something similar 
again. Often wished the same, never worked.


Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:58:00 -0400
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

WE. HAVE. AC.

Despite the roadblocks tossed up in this job, I finally got it 
together and working.


I ended up repairing the broken wire on the original clutch coil, 
as the generic replacement would have required some minor machine 
work to duplicate a hole for a locating pin.  Once I got the 
wires repaired I was able to reassemble everything without too 
much difficulty.


I will say that tensioning the serpentine belt is a lot easier 
with the radiator out


So all back together and blowing cold. Not ICE COLD, but cold. 
With the system working I can deal with charging if necessary.


Gawd, what a horrible job! I don't want to have to do that again

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Complete CL idiot!

2013-09-16 Thread G Mann
Craigslist Code Translation:
Mid level drug dealer needs to sell hot car to make bail and legal fees.
Car only is for sale, any drugs or guns found in car go to the working
girls who funded the paint job and interior work.
Email me for information on picking up string on the working girls.. I'll
be up-state for quite a while after the trial and plea bargain is over.
You will need your own connections for title paperwork.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4032044792.html

 I have no idea how much crack this guy is on.  But that car is ugly and
 has no title


 clay

 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013

2013-09-16 Thread Frederick Moir
Gary.
Nah! We just stole the recipe for clam chowdah from them, and everything else.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2013
 

you put indians in the soup?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Oh geez Wilton, Dwight wanted to be sure you saw:
 http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20VI%202013/photo13_zps8b640df8.jpg.html?sort=3o=32
 to ensure that you knew out chowda was finest kind and had lots of quahogs
 in it.

 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I most likely have one but I am not sure exactly what part you are talking 
about as I have not had that area of a 140 apart before.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist will 
 work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket 
 equivalent.
 
 I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door latch 
 assembly with one on it...
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Another AC Question

2013-09-16 Thread Gerry Archer
My '83 300D has been chirping on idle for years.  It's probably not too high 
pressure since I never add enough freon to reach max high pressure.  I set 
the belt tension at 70 lbs using the Kriket, so the belt might be a little 
loose and doing the chirping.  Nevertheless, I have no belt problems and the 
AC works OK.

Gerry

From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com


Elder son reports proper operation and cooling, but is hearing regularly 
spaced chirps from engine compartment during operation.


I was thinking slipping belt, but the speed sensor would catch that, 
right?


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] AC Issues

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
At least I know what to look for. I was able to secure the wires so they are 
well away from the moving parts, so I doubt the existing harness will be 
similarly affected.

I would add that when I disassembled the clutch I found the remains of a very 
small tie wrap, which was broken.  I suspect this failed and allowed the wires 
to move around and contact the pulley, wearing through the wires.

Dan

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:45 PM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote:

 Good going. But if life is any teacher then I have to say you will at some 
 time more then likely be doing something similar again. Often wished the 
 same, never worked.
 
 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:58:00 -0400
 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 
 WE. HAVE. AC.
 
 Despite the roadblocks tossed up in this job, I finally got it together and 
 working.
 
 I ended up repairing the broken wire on the original clutch coil, as the 
 generic replacement would have required some minor machine work to duplicate 
 a hole for a locating pin.  Once I got the wires repaired I was able to 
 reassemble everything without too much difficulty.
 
 I will say that tensioning the serpentine belt is a lot easier with the 
 radiator out
 
 So all back together and blowing cold. Not ICE COLD, but cold. With the 
 system working I can deal with charging if necessary.
 
 Gawd, what a horrible job! I don't want to have to do that again
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
POTUS is just PC for lying scumbag these days.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Brian Toscano wrote:

 Individual.

 I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.

 If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
 still available. lol.



 But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health
 insurance as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health
 insurance, he said health care, and we assumed he meant to say
 insurance but he really meant we could keep our existing doctors.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I told the service writer the pump was new, I did not mention that I had 
the same test equipment they had and ran the same test beforehand, I mentioned 
it after they tried to get me to replace the compressor 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote:

 
 Well, there are good dealers  bad dealers (and good  bad service/parts
 departments).
 
 Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous service 
 history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the up-selling  
 improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic shocks are $$$ (just 
 by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no surprise there.
 
 If you can afford it, I don't see why a new Mercedes diesel should not
 be considered  enjoyed. The cars now going on 20-30 years are certainly
 not issue or trouble free  with far more expensive bits that are
 needing to be replaced then a new car off the lot would have! :-)
 
 
 On 9/15/2013 10:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
 From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Date: 9/15/2013 8:48 PM
 
 
 I think Kaleb provided a very good reason earlier when he informed us
 as to the level of service received at the local dealer. These things
 are as complicated as a modern petrol burner and as such will more
 than likely have as many issues, in their electronic management
 systems and will have expensive bits that are needing to be replaced
 on a regular basis. Anyone that things they will get old school
 mechanical Diesel reliability out of these things, could be
 mistaken. Then there is the question of how much more these will
 cost, compared to a similar MB with a petrol engine?
 
 Hendrik who will not be buying a bluetec
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I wish.

It is engineered in to the door latch mechanism and associated wiring harness. 
There is some really funky linkage it interacts with in order to tell the 
closing assist system when the door is ajar.

I have been a controls guy for many decades, and my area of expertise was in 
electromechanical controls, so I know microswitches. If there was a way I could 
use a stock or generic microswitch, believe me, I would.

That's why I'm looking for a left hand door latch assembly from a W140. They 
all used the same microswitch.

Just doing a cursory search shows that complete door latch assemblies are going 
for between $40 and $70 used in places like FleaBay and other online venues.  A 
small price to pay compared to the cost of a new microswitch.

Dan

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On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

 I would think that a micro switch is a generic electronic part that could be
 sourced from one of the good online sources for less than $5??
 
 Greg
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:16 PM
 To: Okie Benz
 Subject: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch
 
 I need the micro switch on the door latch mechanism so my closing assist
 will work. The part is $160+ from MB, and of course there is no aftermarket
 equivalent.
 
 I figured I would ask here before I dig around FleaBay for a used door latch
 assembly with one on it...
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!

2013-09-16 Thread Chris James


Well, that's disappointing. It's a good thing you have the necessary
diagnostic equipment, I'm sure it's paid for itself by now.

On 9/16/2013 6:27 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Date: 9/16/2013 4:57
PM


Well I told the service writer the pump was new, I did not mention
that I had the same test equipment they had and ran the same test
beforehand, I mentioned it after they tried to get me to replace the
compressor



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Re: [MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I have just been slammed at both work and home the last few days, which has 
precluded me from any lengthy responses to your questions.  Before I pass out 
for the night, I'll tell you what I think:

You need both a polisher and a random orbital buffer. Harbor Freight stuff 
works fine for me and has served me well so far. dumping several hundred $$ 
into these tools that you might use a few times a year is a big waste in my 
opinion.   You also need a collection of pads and bonnets depending on the 
materials you choose and a spur for cleaning pads.  You'll spend between 
$150-$200 on compounds and chemical, however, you should have plenty left for 
future sessions, so the costs will be spread out over a number of vehicles.

You saw the highly oxidized finish on the S500, and the results I got after 
probably 20 hours of work. If you're willing to dig into the finish on your 
car, that's the sort of results that you can expect - BUT - you can't cut 
corners, half-ass it, or skip steps.

So let's start after you have wiped the finish down with some clean towels and 
IPA cut 50-50 with distilled water:

Step 1.) Ardex 1000 Plus applied using 1-1/2 wool pad on a 7 polisher. As 
with any detailing work, start from the top and work down. I like to divide the 
panels in halves and make sure I overlap. Work in areas no larger than 2 x 2. 
Use plenty of pressure and lighten up as the Ardex flashes off. When you're 
done with a panel wipe it down using a clean towel and IPA.

Step 2.) Ardex 1500 Plus applied using a Meguire's maroon wool pad and the same 
7 polisher. Use the same approach as Step 1. You should see the haze start to 
disappear at this point.

Step 3.) Now you're going to change over to the RA buffer with a yellow foam 
cutting pad and Meguire's M105 Ultra Cut compound. Continue with the same 
techniques as previously used.

Step 4.) Again with the RA using a black finishing pad and some Meguire's M205 
Finishing Polish.

Step 5.) Back to the polisher with a 3M Perfect-It blue polishing pad and 3M 
Perfect-It Ultrafine Polish.

Step 6.) Finish it up with some 3M Show Car Wax or my current favorite, 
Collinite 845 Insulator Wax.

This is for a really severe finish. You can start down the line a step or two 
if you think the finish isn't that bad and backtrack if you don't get the 
desired results.

Dan




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 I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like that 
 stuff used to be good
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Scott Ritchey


Let's see.  With 30-45 million more patients and TBD fewer doctors, what
could possibly go wring?



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Re: [MBZ] I guess since poos is too busy...

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
I've seen folks buff out a car with 3M Imperial Machine Glaze.  What is
that best for?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I have just been slammed at both work and home the last few days, which
 has precluded me from any lengthy responses to your questions.  Before I
 pass out for the night, I'll tell you what I think:

 You need both a polisher and a random orbital buffer. Harbor Freight stuff
 works fine for me and has served me well so far. dumping several hundred $$
 into these tools that you might use a few times a year is a big waste in my
 opinion.   You also need a collection of pads and bonnets depending on the
 materials you choose and a spur for cleaning pads.  You'll spend between
 $150-$200 on compounds and chemical, however, you should have plenty left
 for future sessions, so the costs will be spread out over a number of
 vehicles.

 You saw the highly oxidized finish on the S500, and the results I got
 after probably 20 hours of work. If you're willing to dig into the finish
 on your car, that's the sort of results that you can expect - BUT - you
 can't cut corners, half-ass it, or skip steps.

 So let's start after you have wiped the finish down with some clean towels
 and IPA cut 50-50 with distilled water:

 Step 1.) Ardex 1000 Plus applied using 1-1/2 wool pad on a 7 polisher.
 As with any detailing work, start from the top and work down. I like to
 divide the panels in halves and make sure I overlap. Work in areas no
 larger than 2 x 2. Use plenty of pressure and lighten up as the Ardex
 flashes off. When you're done with a panel wipe it down using a clean towel
 and IPA.

 Step 2.) Ardex 1500 Plus applied using a Meguire's maroon wool pad and the
 same 7 polisher. Use the same approach as Step 1. You should see the haze
 start to disappear at this point.

 Step 3.) Now you're going to change over to the RA buffer with a yellow
 foam cutting pad and Meguire's M105 Ultra Cut compound. Continue with the
 same techniques as previously used.

 Step 4.) Again with the RA using a black finishing pad and some Meguire's
 M205 Finishing Polish.

 Step 5.) Back to the polisher with a 3M Perfect-It blue polishing pad and
 3M Perfect-It Ultrafine Polish.

 Step 6.) Finish it up with some 3M Show Car Wax or my current favorite,
 Collinite 845 Insulator Wax.

 This is for a really severe finish. You can start down the line a step or
 two if you think the finish isn't that bad and backtrack if you don't get
 the desired results.

 Dan




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  I will just buy some mothers or something. What about zymol? Seems like
 that stuff used to be good
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
This doesn't belong on this list!


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
 non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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[MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility.  Carrying stuff
around, trips to the home disappointment, etc.  And towing around my
utility trailer.  Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably
share it with my brother who has the same needs.

Looking to spend under $3000.  Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a
basically reliable design.  I don't mind doing some work, of course, to
make it reliable.

Problem is I don't know where to start looking.  That is, what model to
look for and what to avoid.  Can anyone offer any experience or
suggestions?  I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very
cheap.  Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there...

A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks,
Jaime


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[MBZ] The E250 BlueTEC is here, now let's go for a drive!

2013-09-16 Thread Chris James


2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC First Drive Review

Gotta love that $2800 Driver Assistance Package,
which includes:
DISTRONIC PLUS® with Steering Assist
BAS® PLUS with Cross-Traffic Assist
PRE-SAFE® Brake with Pedestrian Detection
PRE-SAFE® PLUS
Active Blind Spot Assist
Active Lane Keeping Assist


Look no hands, LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hs1HtYd1Mk


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
F-250.  A 1/2 ton truck is no better than a Crown Vic with a frame
(non-unibody) in terms of towing, but not obviously in terms of cargo
capability.

YMMV

Greg

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To: mercedes Mailing List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck

I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility.  Carrying stuff
around, trips to the home disappointment, etc.  And towing around my utility
trailer.  Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share it
with my brother who has the same needs.

Looking to spend under $3000.  Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a
basically reliable design.  I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make
it reliable.

Problem is I don't know where to start looking.  That is, what model to look
for and what to avoid.  Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions?  I'd
lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap.  Theres lots of
higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there...

A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks,
Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
The small 4-banger import trucks from the early 90's or earlier are
woefully underpowered for any kind of towing.  If you want to lay a sheet
of plywood down flat in the bed or tow a car, get a Chevy 1/2 ton long bed
with a V-8.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote:

 F-250.  A 1/2 ton truck is no better than a Crown Vic with a frame
 (non-unibody) in terms of towing, but not obviously in terms of cargo
 capability.

 YMMV

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
 Kopchinski
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: mercedes Mailing List
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck

 I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility.  Carrying stuff
 around, trips to the home disappointment, etc.  And towing around my
 utility
 trailer.  Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably share
 it
 with my brother who has the same needs.

 Looking to spend under $3000.  Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a
 basically reliable design.  I don't mind doing some work, of course, to
 make
 it reliable.

 Problem is I don't know where to start looking.  That is, what model to
 look
 for and what to avoid.  Can anyone offer any experience or suggestions?
  I'd
 lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very cheap.  Theres lots of
 higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there...

 A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer.

 Anyone have any advice?

 Thanks,
 Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 16, 2013 6:31 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:
, get a Chevy 1/2 ton long bed
 with a V-8.


Seconded.  I have a 1/2-ton Suburban only because I occasionally need the 5
back seats.  Usually they are all folded up, which gives me an enclosed,
carpeted eight-foot bed.  Tows a U-haul car trailer with a W126 on it like
there's nothing there.  It gets about 18 mpg highway, a 2wd single-cab
pickup should do significantly better.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT:NYPD

2013-09-16 Thread Scott Ritchey

Close.  The Mayor is on a crusade to end legal ownership of guns by
individual Americans.  

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian
 Toscano
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:56 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:NYPD
 
 Meanwhile mayor is still on his crusade to end gun violence but can't seem
 to reign in his own PD.
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:50 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
  Earlier this month, I suggested that the police accuracy standard was to
  empty a 17 round magazine to score two hits on cops and bystanders and
 one
  hit on the suspect. And somebody, I think it was Craig, suggested that I
  was describing the NYPD standards.
 
  Well, this weekend, two NYPD officers proved that they are capable of
 much
  better accuracy and restraint than expected when they scored hits on two
  bystanders with only three rounds fired. They even quit shooting with
  dozens of cartridges left in their sidearms when the suspect ran away
  unscathed.
 
 
  http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/cops-accidentally-shoot-two-bystanders-
 while-trying-to-subdue-man/
 
  Mitch.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Get something with a Chevy 350, it's cheap, reliable as a 240d and easy to work 
on. The problem is the obambo cash for clunkers plan to a ton of these type of 
trucks off the market and scrapped them

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility.  Carrying stuff
 around, trips to the home disappointment, etc.  And towing around my
 utility trailer.  Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably
 share it with my brother who has the same needs.
 
 Looking to spend under $3000.  Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a
 basically reliable design.  I don't mind doing some work, of course, to
 make it reliable.
 
 Problem is I don't know where to start looking.  That is, what model to
 look for and what to avoid.  Can anyone offer any experience or
 suggestions?  I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very
 cheap.  Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there...
 
 A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer.
 
 Anyone have any advice?
 
 Thanks,
 Jaime
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey

2013-09-16 Thread Scott Ritchey

There is a 2-pin connector on the mono valve.  One pin is always hot (+12v
whenever the car is powered up).  The other pin is grounded by the ACC
system to stop the flow of coolant through the heater core.  You can test
the mono valve by applying 12v to the one pin and grounding the other pin;
that should close the valve.  But just measuring the voltage at the
connector could be misleading. One lead will read 12v but the other may read
zero even if it's just floating (not grounded).

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike
 Esh
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:40 PM
 To: Okie Benz
 Subject: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey
 
 Mike Esh wrote 
  1984 Mercedes 300D mono valve Is malfunctioning.
  All heat all the time.  With a 12 V test light, one wire is hot, one
 not.
  When it is plugged in i get both wires hot.  This is the same if i
 have AC
  on or full heat.  If I clamp off the mono valve hose I get ice cold
 air.
  Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
  Thanks,
 
 
 Jim,
 Could this be the push button unit?  The mono valve was rebuilt with a new
 kit 12 months ago.  Is there a test to determine what is not working?  Do
 you still repair PBU'??s
 
 Michael E. Esh
 me...@horizonenv.com
 michael...@mac.com
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 (C) 231.286.2344
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-16 Thread Curt Raymond
2wd I presume. $3k buys almost nothing in a 4wd truck right now.

Forget Toyota, not that long ago there was a late '90s T100 nearby, 4wd, 
extended cab, not a bad looking truck for the age, some rust but not a ton, 
265,000 miles on the original everything, they wanted (and got I later heard) 
$6800. Thats insane, I can't imagine anything so good about the truck it'd be 
worth that. Later Toyota (say 2000 to 2009) have horrifying frame rot issues. 
My wife's uncle was actually told You can't leave here with it one time. 
Toyota did give him a sweet deal on a new truck but I'd bet you'd need to be 
the original owner to get that.

I'd say you look for the big 3, full size will frighteningly be cheaper than a 
smaller truck probably. Don't be afraid of a 1ton, often in my experience 
they're the boss's truck and not beat so bad.

In a 2wd a v6 isn't too bad where its pretty slugworthy in a 4wd.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:01:26 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Truck
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I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility.  Carrying stuff
around, trips to the home disappointment, etc.  And towing around my
utility trailer.  Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd probably
share it with my brother who has the same needs.

Looking to spend under $3000.  Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a
basically reliable design.  I don't mind doing some work, of course, to
make it reliable.

Problem is I don't know where to start looking.  That is, what model to
look for and what to avoid.  Can anyone offer any experience or
suggestions?  I'd lean toward a Toyota, but I don't think they're very
cheap.  Theres lots of higher mileage Fords and Dodges out there...

A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a car trailer.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks,
Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Hattaway
I have to ask.. Did you get the alternator from Trent?? 

OK, fun over... although you have all the info, we have almost none.. why did 
it get replaced?  Do you know the battery is good ( I kinda doubt it, but I'm 
not there ) .  Have you checked the meter or repeated the measurment with 
another meter?   LIke someone said, wired wrong, no output.  However it's 
really tough to wire these wrong since they are self excited and use the only 
other terminal they have to tell you when it's charging with a bulb on the 
dash.  So what does the bulb say?? Or if your bulb is mute, what does it tell 
you when you turn on the key.. then start the engine.. ( if you can start it on 
10+ volts.  Light on, then light off when the engine starts??   I doubt it... 
but... 

Most batteries float at 12+.  Not much +, a little.  A battery at 10+ is an 
issue.  Unless it's being drug down to that level by a stupendous load ( like 
all the lights on, the glow relay contacts welded, and the starter hung ) then 
I'd say you got a bad battery.  But I don't know.. I'm not there.



 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
 

I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 13.7-14.2 volts, or so.





 
  From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery


 What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
 running?

 Bob R
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