Re: [MBZ] Suspension parts - OEM vs. other brands
yeah, buy something already! um, support this list by buying from me! yeah, like, yeah On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0400 From: jabbahur...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suspension parts - OEM vs. other brands the message is simple: stay flexible -- stay sensible And buy your parts from Jabba. I will have an order coming your way in the next week. Pinky promise. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PARTS!!!!
yes, if you are unsure about a part for your car, post your car and the part name and i'll give you the mercedes part number On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:22:56 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: For those who might not have been able to see the original post via Dropbox I have attached it here.. Thanks. The oil filter kit sez W123. It looks a bit short? These appear to be OE parts? W123s came with engines other than diesel. The part number given may be for one of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Axed For Bounces
Ax them why --R On 4/10/14 8:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I'm not really sure why. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Wonderful. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Axed For Bounces Hotmail, yahoo, and Comcast seems to be bouncing today Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Your membership in the mailing list Mercedes has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 10-Apr-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. Methinks the Internet doth passeth on. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PARTS!!!!
Do you have a source for a front diff for a 08 gl? Mine appears to be possible fubar. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, if you are unsure about a part for your car, post your car and the part name and i'll give you the mercedes part number On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:22:56 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: For those who might not have been able to see the original post via Dropbox I have attached it here.. Thanks. The oil filter kit sez W123. It looks a bit short? These appear to be OE parts? W123s came with engines other than diesel. The part number given may be for one of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
That would be awesome - thanks! Please focus on the location of the turbocharger. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: I will post a DB link in the morning. I have 3 1985 123s. I will post pics of the most original. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Andrew Strasfogel *Sent: *Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:22 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Subject: *[MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay Could someone please email or post a photo of the engine bay of their non=CA 1985 W123 turbodiesel? I need a photo to compare with my CA version 1985 300TD. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Heartbleed ( continued )
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:30 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: While most of the buzz surrounding OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability has focussed on websites and other servers, the SANS Institute reminds us that software running on PCs, tablets and more is just as potentially vulnerable. Networking equipment, backup applications, video cameras, networked refrigerators, printers, networked storage, digital TVs and boxes that can be remotely managed - anything with an internet connection that can be used remotely. It doesn't have to be a web server, just has to be able to use a relatively recent version of OpenSSL's TLS. (I have read that OpenSSH does not, by the way.) Embedded device programmers tend to adopt libraries very slowly, so many of these oddball devices will be so far out of date that an exploit created in the past two years isn't a serious threat. Of course you might have other known threats that were never patched; bigger companies will have a security team to keep on top of such things, but many hardware companies won't release patches after a relatively short time beyond public ship. If you aren't using a password manager, now is a good time to start, since you really should change every password everywhere over the next few weeks. You won't have any idea if your information has leaked, and I would expect smart attackers will hold back data until the smoke has cleared. I haven't seen any financial coverage, but HB could have leaked credit card details, bank information, social security numbers, and so on. Unfortunately the US banks are in such a state that there's not a great solution for that, as far as I know. Any suggestions? Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Test
Test. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Brake hose?
I want some brake hose for my '77 300D, it is supposed to be a nice weekend and this would be a nice project that my son can actually help do. However, it's Friday at 2:30 (bonus points for planning ahead). Suggestions as to a source for brake hose? How much would I need if I wanted to replace all the current rubber? I expect my hard lines are fine. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I want some brake hose for my '77 300D, it is supposed to be a nice weekend and this would be a nice project that my son can actually help do. However, it's Friday at 2:30 (bonus points for planning ahead). Suggestions as to a source for brake hose? How much would I need if I wanted to replace all the current rubber? I expect my hard lines are fine. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
What's the latest with the 350/300SDL? Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake hose? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
The guy with the 350SDL on Benzworld has come down some. Sent from my iPad On Apr 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: What's the latest with the 350/300SDL? Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake hose? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PARTS!!!!
I was paying attention to dialog and material. My question was about shipping, figuring it was the Amazon scam, $6 part plus $7.95 shipping or something. So I'd need to order 16 filters? I suppose I could do that. These are dizzel filters, right? --R On 4/10/14 5:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you really aren't paying attention to the dialog, nor actually reading the material :( i want you to spend 100 bucks. if not, then try to get close. tony will pay the freight On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'd get me a buncho these filters *000 180 06 09 G Oil Filter Kit W107/108/109/111 114/116/123/126 $ 5.95 Is Dr. Fatty gonna charge me about $700 for shipping? --R * On 4/10/14 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Gary has an opportunity to sell some OE parts at fantastic prices. I'll leave it to him to list the terms, but there is a minimum dollar amount, I believe. Here is a list of what he has with prices: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jxqlk6sfmle2irh/gen%20specials.html Drop him a note directly if you have questions. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
On 4/11/2014 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Test. Received here. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Password manager
Archer wrote: While most of the buzz surrounding OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability has focussed on websites and other servers, the SANS Institute reminds us that software running on PCs, tablets and more is just as potentially vulnerable. Tim Crone wrote: Networking equipment, backup applications, video cameras, networked refrigerators, printers, networked storage, digital TVs and boxes that can be remotely managed - anything with an internet connection that can be used remotely. It doesn't have to be a web server, just has to be able to use a relatively recent version of OpenSSL's TLS. (I have read that OpenSSH does not, by the way.) Embedded device programmers tend to adopt libraries very slowly, so many of these oddball devices will be so far out of date that an exploit created in the past two years isn't a serious threat. Of course you might have other known threats that were never patched; bigger companies will have a security team to keep on top of such things, but many hardware companies won't release patches after a relatively short time beyond public ship. If you aren't using a password manager, now is a good time to start, since you really should change every password everywhere over the next few weeks. You won't have any idea if your information has leaked, and I would expect smart attackers will hold back data until the smoke has cleared. I haven't seen any financial coverage, but HB could have leaked credit card details, bank information, social security numbers, and so on. Unfortunately the US banks are in such a state that there's not a great solution for that, as far as I know. Any suggestions? Best, Tim What would you suggest for a password manager? An NYT article mentioned Roboform http://www.roboform.com/,KeePass http://keepass.info/,LastPass https://lastpass.com/,1Password https://agilebits.com/, and so on). NYt recommended Dashlane which they say has been improved. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/technology/personaltech/too-many-passwords-and-no-way-to-remember-them-until-now.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 There is a long list of articles, ratings, etc. when searching Bing under password manager, so a professional opinion would be welcome. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Password manager
I use NSA, they back up everything and can get at everything. Included in my annual payments to the US gummint. --R On 4/11/14 5:29 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Archer wrote: While most of the buzz surrounding OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability has focussed on websites and other servers, the SANS Institute reminds us that software running on PCs, tablets and more is just as potentially vulnerable. Tim Crone wrote: Networking equipment, backup applications, video cameras, networked refrigerators, printers, networked storage, digital TVs and boxes that can be remotely managed - anything with an internet connection that can be used remotely. It doesn't have to be a web server, just has to be able to use a relatively recent version of OpenSSL's TLS. (I have read that OpenSSH does not, by the way.) Embedded device programmers tend to adopt libraries very slowly, so many of these oddball devices will be so far out of date that an exploit created in the past two years isn't a serious threat. Of course you might have other known threats that were never patched; bigger companies will have a security team to keep on top of such things, but many hardware companies won't release patches after a relatively short time beyond public ship. If you aren't using a password manager, now is a good time to start, since you really should change every password everywhere over the next few weeks. You won't have any idea if your information has leaked, and I would expect smart attackers will hold back data until the smoke has cleared. I haven't seen any financial coverage, but HB could have leaked credit card details, bank information, social security numbers, and so on. Unfortunately the US banks are in such a state that there's not a great solution for that, as far as I know. Any suggestions? Best, Tim What would you suggest for a password manager? An NYT article mentioned Roboform http://www.roboform.com/,KeePass http://keepass.info/,LastPass https://lastpass.com/,1Password https://agilebits.com/, and so on). NYt recommended Dashlane which they say has been improved. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/technology/personaltech/too-many-passwords-and-no-way-to-remember-them-until-now.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 There is a long list of articles, ratings, etc. when searching Bing under password manager, so a professional opinion would be welcome. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
On Apr 11, 2014 3:36 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: What's the latest with the 350/300SDL? Working on it. I have stripped the 350 in the bay, and started disconnecting the 300. I don't have anywhere to keep the engine so I'm trying to wait for dryer days to pull it. I am expecting to get it done later this spring, I've still got the tag on it so I've got to make that worthwhile. :) The 300D is more of an interrupt so that my kids can help do something, they've been asking. Best, Tim Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake hose? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
And Angelo's friend in Jacksonville, FL, says she sold hers to a Texan - well, she took a retainer from 'im, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake hose? The guy with the 350SDL on Benzworld has come down some. Sent from my iPad On Apr 11, 2014, at 3:34 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: What's the latest with the 350/300SDL? Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake hose? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
actually, the OEM ate aren't that bad at all, looking like under 20 bucks each if your last 6 digits is below 165148 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most brake hoses are ok. febi. pbr. whatever. they tend to be cheap there are some ate hoses that are exceptionally nice (benz uses them in some cars) but not likely worth the extra money On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PARTS!!!!
yes, you could do that. what is the part number you like and what do you expect it to fit? as for scams, i leave that to other guys. given that you've spent as much as anyone on this list with me (you may be number 1, but so might 5 other guys. well, not counting jaime, who has number 1 locked up for the next several years at least), you should know there's just not scam. actually, no scam might be my downfall in business :( On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was paying attention to dialog and material. My question was about shipping, figuring it was the Amazon scam, $6 part plus $7.95 shipping or something. So I'd need to order 16 filters? I suppose I could do that. These are dizzel filters, right? --R On 4/10/14 5:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: you really aren't paying attention to the dialog, nor actually reading the material :( i want you to spend 100 bucks. if not, then try to get close. tony will pay the freight On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'd get me a buncho these filters *000 180 06 09 G Oil Filter Kit W107/108/109/111 114/116/123/126 $ 5.95 Is Dr. Fatty gonna charge me about $700 for shipping? --R * On 4/10/14 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Gary has an opportunity to sell some OE parts at fantastic prices. I'll leave it to him to list the terms, but there is a minimum dollar amount, I believe. Here is a list of what he has with prices: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jxqlk6sfmle2irh/gen%20specials.html Drop him a note directly if you have questions. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake hose?
most brake hoses are ok. febi. pbr. whatever. they tend to be cheap there are some ate hoses that are exceptionally nice (benz uses them in some cars) but not likely worth the extra money On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: NAPA? It's not like this is the sort of thing you can buy in bulk. Good point, I wasn't thinking about the ends. :/ Be sure to have some penetrating lube and a good set of metric flare nut wrenches. That I've got. A quick scan shows that they are somewhat around, but only a couple are in stock in the general area. Looks like I may end up ordering from Jabba after all, and doing something else this weekend. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Evaporator Leaking
Hi Peter, i have been reviewing the WSM instructions and believe I can remove the old and install a new evap then put everything back together with new pods and valve, then take the car to my AC shop (owned by a ex-coworker SIL) who will then evacuate charge the system for me. My only concern is possible leaks when I reinstall everything - but if I read things correctly, there are no connections inside the dash that may leak. Is that correct? I believe the connectors are on the engine side of the firewall... Am I correct to believe i need to replace /_all _/the vacuum pods? Anything else behind the dash need attention while I'm in there? Thanks for sharing your experience. BTW, Wilton's writeup is very well done. Thanks to all who shared comments... Sincerely, Larry On 4/10/2014 10:41 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Larry: I will be replacing another one this spring sometime when I can take a long weekend. Two out of four evaporators have failed so far Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
I am not as gifted as Poos, but did some passable work on a black w140. If it is really as bad as you say, maybe hitting it with 3000 or 4000 grit wet sand would give you a better base. I went from 2000 to 5000 grit, then hit it with a series of finer compounds until the shine was back. Topped it with sealant. I will need to train #1 boy on how to wash his car so he can wax it. clay On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
That's because you don't compound with a DA and foam pads. You use a rotary polisher with a wool pad. DAs and foam pads are for polishing. f you're trying to cut heavy oxidation with a DA you're wasting your time. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
Da? You talking about a random orbital buffer? What I got is a high speed buffer. I do need a wool pad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's because you don't compound with a DA and foam pads. You use a rotary polisher with a wool pad. DAs and foam pads are for polishing. f you're trying to cut heavy oxidation with a DA you're wasting your time. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] PARTS!!!!
Do you have a source for a front diff for a 08 gl? Mine appears to be possible fubar. Car-part.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
If you're using a high speed polisher with a foam pad you'll get nowhere as well. You need a wool pad and the proper material for removing oxidation. This is not the sort of thing you'll find at a FLAPs. You need to find an automotive body/paint supply place. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Da? You talking about a random orbital buffer? What I got is a high speed buffer. I do need a wool pad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's because you don't compound with a DA and foam pads. You use a rotary polisher with a wool pad. DAs and foam pads are for polishing. f you're trying to cut heavy oxidation with a DA you're wasting your time. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Evaporator Leaking
Yes, the expansion valve is in the engine compartment. If the new evaporator leaks you have a problem, but otherwise any leaks are in the engine compartment. I would flush the rest of the system and covert it to PAG oil (dump the compressor out and add 120 mL PAG oil), add 2 oz of oil for the now fairly clean condenser, and replace ALL the o-rings. These are the most like sources of leaks and by now are in poor shape. You should consider replacing the short line between the condenser and the receiver/dryer as well as these are the most likely to leak in my experience. And have the shop install a new receiver/dryer immediately prior to charging. Saves all sorts of problems. With a clean condenser and a proper charge the AC will work just fine on R134a -- they came filled with it after 1992 anyway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
Ok got ya. At flaps I bought some mguires ultimate polish and their carniba wax, will see how that works out. I should have bought a wool pad while I was at HF, I think they had them. Damn. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: If you're using a high speed polisher with a foam pad you'll get nowhere as well. You need a wool pad and the proper material for removing oxidation. This is not the sort of thing you'll find at a FLAPs. You need to find an automotive body/paint supply place. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Da? You talking about a random orbital buffer? What I got is a high speed buffer. I do need a wool pad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's because you don't compound with a DA and foam pads. You use a rotary polisher with a wool pad. DAs and foam pads are for polishing. f you're trying to cut heavy oxidation with a DA you're wasting your time. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] Password manager
Dan wrote: Sometimes simple is the best. Thanks. Now I have BledHeart on my linux system, thanks to that fine image file. ...just kidding... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] NSA knew about Heartbeat for past two years. was: Password manager
NSA knew about and used Heartbeat for past two years. NSA denies it. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html Gerry Archer wrote: While most of the buzz surrounding OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability has focussed on websites and other servers, the SANS Institute reminds us that software running on PCs, tablets and more is just as potentially vulnerable. Tim Crone wrote: Networking equipment, backup applications, video cameras, networked refrigerators, printers, networked storage, digital TVs and boxes that can be remotely managed - anything with an internet connection that can be used remotely. It doesn't have to be a web server, just has to be able to use a relatively recent version of OpenSSL's TLS. (I have read that OpenSSH does not, by the way.) Embedded device programmers tend to adopt libraries very slowly, so many of these oddball devices will be so far out of date that an exploit created in the past two years isn't a serious threat. Of course you might have other known threats that were never patched; bigger companies will have a security team to keep on top of such things, but many hardware companies won't release patches after a relatively short time beyond public ship. If you aren't using a password manager, now is a good time to start, since you really should change every password everywhere over the next few weeks. You won't have any idea if your information has leaked, and I would expect smart attackers will hold back data until the smoke has cleared. I haven't seen any financial coverage, but HB could have leaked credit card details, bank information, social security numbers, and so on. Unfortunately the US banks are in such a state that there's not a great solution for that, as far as I know. Any suggestions? Best, Tim What would you suggest for a password manager? An NYT article mentioned Roboform http://www.roboform.com/,KeePass http://keepass.info/,LastPass https://lastpass.com/,1Password https://agilebits.com/, and so on). NYt recommended Dashlane which they say has been improved. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/technology/personaltech/too-many-passwords-and-no-way-to-remember-them-until-now.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 There is a long list of articles, ratings, etc. when searching Bing under password manager, so a professional opinion would be welcome. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Poosy would not be proud.
Actually I may have some wool bonnets I can probably put over the foam pad, that may work Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Ok got ya. At flaps I bought some mguires ultimate polish and their carniba wax, will see how that works out. I should have bought a wool pad while I was at HF, I think they had them. Damn. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: If you're using a high speed polisher with a foam pad you'll get nowhere as well. You need a wool pad and the proper material for removing oxidation. This is not the sort of thing you'll find at a FLAPs. You need to find an automotive body/paint supply place. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Da? You talking about a random orbital buffer? What I got is a high speed buffer. I do need a wool pad though. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's because you don't compound with a DA and foam pads. You use a rotary polisher with a wool pad. DAs and foam pads are for polishing. f you're trying to cut heavy oxidation with a DA you're wasting your time. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can tell you this, I have not got any black color on the pad at all, so it's not cutting into the paint. I bought 2 foam pads at HF, the one for Polish and the one for finish. They were out of the one for heavy compounding or whatever they call it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Rubbing compound would be the last thing I would use. In fact, I've never used rubbing compound that I can recall. You have to use the right materials with the proper pad. You don't just grab any old pad and compound and have at it. That is a formula for some serious damage. You have to base your choice of material on the condition of the finish. It's not an arbitrary thing. Dan On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Bought a HF buffer and some pads to buff the badly oxidized hood of my 140. Since my $4 gl appears to either have a bad transfer case or bad front diff, I decided to get my 140 cleaned up to start driving. Anyway, I have been buffing on it for hours using turtle wax rubbing compound for mild to heavy oxidation. That is like beating your head against the wall. That crap is hard to get off. At first I think I was using too much, but then I just think the stuff is not worth a crap. It looks much better but still needs further buffing before applying wax. I am headed to Wally World or the flaps to see what they have. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are
[MBZ] Gummit corruption
corrupt politician aids chinese land grab Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch Do a search BLM is stealing cattle (300 head so far) for dirty harry and son to drive 140 year old ranch family off state owned land so dirty harry's family can fill his pockets. Farm is surrounded by feds ala Waco and Ruby ridge, because a ranch family won't run away from them. it is also n Drudge ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gummit corruption
That Federal Land has been Federal Land since long before Nevada became a state. Mr. Bundy is stealing US property for his own profit. Unless he has a land grant from the King of Spain prior to the Mexican War that is grandfathered in by the Treaty of Guadalupe y Hidalgo, he's not got a case. He has been ordered off the land TWICE by Federal Courts. This is nothing more than a common thief making things up so he can keep stealing. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:36:43 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay That would be awesome - thanks! Please focus on the location of the turbocharger. Sorry it took me so long. Here ya go. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1zkopqlbvs14kz/0h5z5GtUBS Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
That is a huge help. Thanks so much. May I have your turbocharger please? I really need one. ;) -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 11 April 2014, 10:29PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:36:43 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay That would be awesome - thanks! Please focus on the location of the turbocharger. Sorry it took me so long. Here ya go. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1zkopqlbvs14kz/0h5z5GtUBS Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Evaporator Leaking
If you work quick it will be a lot less but you need the funky go fast music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPAAo9Mia6M Hendrik whose evap is hanging in there but some of the pods are sad On 11/04/14 02:30, Dan Penoff wrote: I believe it's about 14-16 hours flat rate time. That means close to double that for a DIYer or first time. If you do it, replace the expansion valve and all the vacuum actuators. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy - Just got the bad news from the Ac Shop - the evaporator is leaking. i spoke with the shop about me removing the box that holds the Evap and then having the shop replace the evap inside the box. then can reinstall the evap and dash and have the shop charge the system. I have the WSM on DVD but have not looked at it yet. I hope it has details about how to RR the evap. Has anyone done this at home? I am pretty confident I can dismantle the dash remove the Evap for repair (and can hopefully reasonably sure I can get it back together) but need to know the steps to follow. I was wondering if anyone has done this and was it a huge job or reasonably easy? Where's the bast place to get a new Evap? Is a rebuilt Evap acceptable? Is there more than one brand to consider? which is the best? Any comments about this repair? Thanks - -- Sincerely, Larry W124 1991 MB 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
Uh, no. It wouldn't surprise me if Gary can get the turbo innards for $300 though. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: astrasfo...@gmail.comSent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:45 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay That is a huge help. Thanks so much. May I have your turbocharger please? I really need one. ;) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] QR codes
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-22682186 Read in the paper that Daimler is going to extend the program to include all cars built after 1990. Hendrik who might see if he can get a free sticker for his wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux and Virtualbox Question
Greg wrote: I'm late to the party here, but thought I'd add my comments anyway. I want to ditch XP 1.If I run XP in a virtualbox under Linux, does that provide the internet security I get with linux? It depends - but typically no. VirtualBox guest has either raw (bridged) access to the physical connector or NAT and/or firewalled connection. But without setting up a very aggressive firewall, it won't keep XP from initiating nasty exchanges. 3.If I were to run a dual boot instead, is there a simple way to enable access to the network drive but disable internet access when booting into XP? Yup. Set the gateway address wrong. LAN is accessible, but it goes knocking at the wrong address for everything beyond. It will work in a VirtualBox guest too. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] The green sports car
Here is the prototype sports car as envisaged by the German greens. In a statement the head of the local green movement has said that the green party is understanding that there are some in the community that need a sporty go fast car in order to look more attractive to the opposite or even same sex, in a effort to demonstrate that nature and exotic cars can work in harmony, a working collective has spend many weeks creating this example of the next generation super car. http://www.ebay.com/itm/231201412290 Hendrik who will not be bidding ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gummit corruption
Whooo there partner. ease up a moment... This family has been ranching that same area since before the Civil War. Almost all ranches in the west are part patent land [private title land] and part BLM lease land. To those of the Eastern persuasion this may sound strange.. but to those of us who live in the great west, it is quite normal. Open grazing rights are a long standing tradition for BLM land use. The BLM encourages such arrangements and consumes entire forests to make enough paper to write all the paperwork associated with doing business with a large government agency such as BLM. Much of the land managed by BLM is to poor to ever support development and the average use of grazing cows is measured in cows per square mile [limited by BLM regulations, btw.] and in aggregate something on the order of 2 cows per square mile is average [unlike your green pastures in the East with lots of rain and grass]. Passions are running very high on this particular issue largely because the government agency has used armed thugs who have harmed both people and innocent cows by their direct actions. I urge you to have a close and complete look at the actual status of this families BLM lease, compared with other BLM leases for cattle grazing, before coming out with your six guns blazing. I believe a closer inspection of the events, both historical and current, will give a much different view than what is being reported. It appears to me, from the information I have, the Bundy family has a BLM lease and now BLM has decided [or some other government agency as yet not fully identified] to attempt to break said lease to save a rare tortise which may not need saving.. or if it does may not truly be impacted by 2 cows per square mile grazing [supposed average in the West on BLM land] If there were no lease, why would the government need to break the lease by imposing the rare endangered critter ruse? It does give cause to question, does it not? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: That Federal Land has been Federal Land since long before Nevada became a state. Mr. Bundy is stealing US property for his own profit. Unless he has a land grant from the King of Spain prior to the Mexican War that is grandfathered in by the Treaty of Guadalupe y Hidalgo, he's not got a case. He has been ordered off the land TWICE by Federal Courts. This is nothing more than a common thief making things up so he can keep stealing. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] FWIW
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