Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
First question: What version of OSX does it have on it? MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think. So I did that, was like 2GB of something. Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just gray screen. Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of the suggested fixes do anything. She claims that it did not come with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something. So the question is how do I get this thing working again? I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort of boot off disk. I was able to get it to do a verbose startup, shift command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after displaying lines of stuff. Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get them to try to fix it? It's their damn software that killed it... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8. If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. reboot or start up while holding the Command + R keys down. Don't let up on it until you see some nard drive icons show up on the screen. These are volumes that are bootable. Once of them should be the Recovery HD volume. Choose (click) on it and press Enter. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: First question: What version of OSX does it have on it? MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think. So I did that, was like 2GB of something. Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just gray screen. Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of the suggested fixes do anything. She claims that it did not come with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something. So the question is how do I get this thing working again? I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort of boot off disk. I was able to get it to do a verbose startup, shift command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after displaying lines of stuff. Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get them to try to fix it? It's their damn software that killed it... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
You can boot to single-user mode with Cmd-Opt-S (?), from there you can poke around disabling things, perhaps. Boot from a CD with C and something in the drive. That's the start-over option. If you have an OS install CD/DVD. Recovery disks are fairly machine-specific. I doubt an iMac disc is going to be of much use. Generally the updates are a good idea, and work well enough. Disclaimer: our newest OS is 10.6 on a MBP. SWMBA hates it. I've gotta say, it's no Pismo. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1and! Hosting
Just a postscript to my experience with 1and1 I continued to get spam alerts from Verizon over email originating from 1and1 servers until the very end. This was after almost four weeks from their promises that it would end. Also, I hosted six domains with them. I received confirmations of the domain transfers last Sunday when I initiated them. They all showed that my domains would transfer by 13:00 local time yesterday. Three of them transferred around 17:00, the other three didn't go until almost midnight. I called them around 19L00 and asked why the others hadn't transferred yet and they just gave me the runaround. When I asked them if their email confirmation was wrong, they wouldn't respond. Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on 1and1. Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are pretty ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
I tried almost everything and couldn't get past spinning wheels. Right now it appears to be doing an Internet Recovery cmd-alt-R on startup which worked to get some response, I had to plug it into the router as it was having problems connecting over wireless. It looks like it might be downloading something (has a spinning globe and looks like a download bar that is not moving), I'll see what it does, if this doesn't work I'll probably have to take it into Apple store and see if they will unscrew what their brokeass software did. Apparently these things no longer ship with a recovery disk, you have to do this internet recovery thing. --R On 8/23/14 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8. If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. reboot or start up while holding the Command + R keys down. Don't let up on it until you see some nard drive icons show up on the screen. These are volumes that are bootable. Once of them should be the Recovery HD volume. Choose (click) on it and press Enter. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: First question: What version of OSX does it have on it? MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think. So I did that, was like 2GB of something. Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just gray screen. Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of the suggested fixes do anything. She claims that it did not come with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something. So the question is how do I get this thing working again? I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort of boot off disk. I was able to get it to do a verbose startup, shift command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after displaying lines of stuff. Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get them to try to fix it? It's their damn software that killed it... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
it's only much of it where there are meth labs. lakeland is an up and coming small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech corridor along I4. it IS the future On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Uh, right. I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and grow house neighbors. No thanks. Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I would jump on it. The car has some potential for a decent driver but not a big money flip. After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here. Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort. It will cost me $50 in gas just to tow it home. And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be occupying my time for a little while anyway. Not enugh room in the driveway Dan On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Geez poos just buy it already! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Lambo v. SLS
http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON
On 22/08/2014 10:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: So you're not like Canadians? You know, everybody knows each other, eh? grin Dan it's late and I'm getting punchy Hey, it is much easier for us. There are not as many of us as there are of you folks south of the border. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N --R On 8/23/14 9:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I tried almost everything and couldn't get past spinning wheels. Right now it appears to be doing an Internet Recovery cmd-alt-R on startup which worked to get some response, I had to plug it into the router as it was having problems connecting over wireless. It looks like it might be downloading something (has a spinning globe and looks like a download bar that is not moving), I'll see what it does, if this doesn't work I'll probably have to take it into Apple store and see if they will unscrew what their brokeass software did. Apparently these things no longer ship with a recovery disk, you have to do this internet recovery thing. --R On 8/23/14 6:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8. If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. reboot or start up while holding the Command + R keys down. Don't let up on it until you see some nard drive icons show up on the screen. These are volumes that are bootable. Once of them should be the Recovery HD volume. Choose (click) on it and press Enter. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: First question: What version of OSX does it have on it? MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think. So I did that, was like 2GB of something. Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning wheel, or just gray screen. Apparently this was a major issue from what I see, but none of the suggested fixes do anything. She claims that it did not come with a recovery disk, or doesn't have it, or something. So the question is how do I get this thing working again? I have an imac recovery disk but it won't boot into safe mode or any of the other modes with the various key combinations at startup to get at some sort of boot off disk. I was able to get it to do a verbose startup, shift command V or something, but that hung too once it got so far after displaying lines of stuff. Is this thing totally hosed? Do I need to take it to the mac store and get them to try to fix it? It's their damn software that killed it... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N So there is something out there worse than Windows. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it. And no, it's NOT worse than Windows. Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
If it's so great, why aren't you living there? Poos On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's only much of it where there are meth labs. lakeland is an up and coming small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech corridor along I4. it IS the future On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Uh, right. I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and grow house neighbors. No thanks. Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I would jump on it. The car has some potential for a decent driver but not a big money flip. After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here. Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort. It will cost me $50 in gas just to tow it home. And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be occupying my time for a little while anyway. Not enugh room in the driveway Dan On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Geez poos just buy it already! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign flashing thing. The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which apparently crashed many many machines. I think this is what it wanted to do last night so I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now saying 3:57 which means at some point this afternoon something might work. I'm not sure exactly what it is downloading, what version of OSX but I guess I might see in 4 hours. My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell it but couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did not know this). So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to upgrade itself. --R On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it. And no, it's NOT worse than Windows. Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
If she has iCloud and the Find my Mac feature turned on, don't sell it until you can remove the feature. Otherwise her iCloud account will be forever linked to the machine. Check Apple's support site about how to clean it off. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign flashing thing. The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which apparently crashed many many machines. I think this is what it wanted to do last night so I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now saying 3:57 which means at some point this afternoon something might work. I'm not sure exactly what it is downloading, what version of OSX but I guess I might see in 4 hours. My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell it but couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did not know this). So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to upgrade itself. --R On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it. And no, it's NOT worse than Windows. Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender
Kinds of like a Mercedes? On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From what I am seeing used ones have a bunch of hours and are much cheaper than brand new -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1and! Hosting
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on 1and1. Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are pretty ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast. I don't recall being bothered by their retention people, so they must not have tried too much with me. Then again, I had only their cheap email service ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lambo v. SLS
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:54:51 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547 At least this one had a visible reason, unlike the Mercedes a few years ago that spontaneously went airborne and did a back-flip. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted to Hella quartz halogen headlights. I see that Amazon has these (HELLA 002395991 7 H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with free shipping. This may be a silly question, but is this a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in my '84 300D? Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I use it in my '95 E300. Over 20k miles there has been a gradual improvement in shifting behavior, now more often than not the transmission is finding the right gear. Not nearly as dramatic as the improvement in my '87 wagon, this transmission was shifting fairly well before I began using the M1. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 23, 2014 12:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320? Thanks, Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
I think I am going to keep it but I will take a look at that too. I am at a screen now Mac OS X Utilities that has a choice to Reinstall Mac OS X (new copy of Lion) which is not doing anything at the moment so i guess I will leave it for awhile and see if it does something. It has a Disk Utility feature too that moght have some relevance. Well now it looks like it wants me to tell it where to install Lion but it does not show a disk. h. --R On 8/23/14 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If she has iCloud and the Find my Mac feature turned on, don't sell it until you can remove the feature. Otherwise her iCloud account will be forever linked to the machine. Check Apple's support site about how to clean it off. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign flashing thing. The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which apparently crashed many many machines. I think this is what it wanted to do last night so I let it, with the GSOD then appearing. It is now saying 3:57 which means at some point this afternoon something might work. I'm not sure exactly what it is downloading, what version of OSX but I guess I might see in 4 hours. My wife had pretty much cleaned everything off as she was going to sell it but couldn't get much for it so it sat since like Nov or Dec (I did not know this). So now I get to try to resurrect it after it tried to upgrade itself. --R On 8/23/14 11:10 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it. And no, it's NOT worse than Windows. Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface software! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
H4 uses a different socket, I think. If you have Euro's, you have the H4 socket, if you have DOT headlamps, I don't think you do. Not possible to do a fast swap. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender
The supply of recent older tractors is limited. During the recession hobby tractor sales dropped dramatically and quite a few smaller dealers went out of business (or quit selling tractors). I can't comment on any common rail injection systems but the all-mechanical injection systems will be very familiar to any MBZ Diesel owner. The main difference is that the injection cam is in the block, not in a separate IP. This actually makes IP replacement easy because injection timing is set by shims between the IP and the block. The IP rack is positioned by spring force (more fuel) balanced against a centrifugal retarding force. There is a pre-chamber with glow plugs. All very much like a 617, but simpler. -Original Message- From: Craig Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:07 -0400 David Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Beware the EPA's tier 4 pollution standard. Although I understand it is not required in final form in off road diesels under 75 hp for a few more years, Kubota has been introducing tier 4 in their new tractor engines. I hear the changes include common rail computer controlled electronic injectors, a urea tank, a catalytic converter, and a particulate filter. And a price increase of several thousand dollars. I would go for an older model. It sounds like the prices of older tractors will go up. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1and! Hosting
I have hosted six web sites with them as well as all the related services since 2006. It wasn't a chunk of money but it was decent for them, I suspect. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Now that everything is moved over and working I'm pulling the plug on 1and1. Should be interesting, as I've heard their retention people are pretty ruthless, almost as bad as Comcast. I don't recall being bothered by their retention people, so they must not have tried too much with me. Then again, I had only their cheap email service ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
The 7 Hellas I used in my '81 300D slipped right in as direct replacements for factory originals. I may still have the boxes they came in. I'll try to find the boxes and identify the lamps more specifically. Wilton - Original Message - From: G. M. Brown via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted to Hella quartz halogen headlights. I see that Amazon has these (HELLA 002395991 7 H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with free shipping. This may be a silly question, but is this a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in my '84 300D? Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
I think Euros were all H4 bulbs, only the DOT headlamps were not. That said, people in other parts of the world used to buy US DOT headlamp assemblies for the W108/109 chassis cars since the Euro spec were single bulb and the US spec was dual bult -- even with crappy Halogen sealed beam headlights, four bulbs gave a lot more light than two on high beams. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lambo v. SLS
Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:54:51 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-lamborghini-race-car-completely-flip-end-ove-1625937547 At least this one had a visible reason, unlike the Mercedes a few years ago that spontaneously went airborne and did a back-flip. Yeah, the sand trap didn't trap and the Lambo hit the wall pretty hard. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote: I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted to Hella quartz halogen headlights. I see that Amazon has these (HELLA 002395991 7 H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with free shipping. This may be a silly question, but is this a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in my '84 300D? Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? H4 is plug compatible with 7 or 6x8 (or the low beam lamp in 5 3/4 or 4x6) sealed beam. H1 is compatible with 5 3/4 or 4x6 high beams (for the W108,109, 116 and 107 owners) I assume H1 can replace the W123 fog lights, but can't guarantee it. I had a minor problem with my Plymouth Horizon, the rubber cover over the back of the H4 bulb on my Hellas was larger than the hole in the back of my headlamp frame, so I had to dremel the heck out of the buckets to get the Hella lamps in. The Chevy Citation I had before it didn't have that problem. If you go oversized on the bulbs, try to find some 55/100w bulbs so that low beam isn't offensive to others. (but with all the HID stuff of varying qualities out there, I'm not sure that nasty low beams stand out in the crowd that much any more) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: H4 is plug compatible with 7 or 6x8 (or the low beam lamp in 5 3/4 or 4x6) sealed beam. It appears that some things have changed since the W123 was made, and now there are replacements advertised as HB2 or 9003 bulbs? I have no idea what the difference between those and H4 is. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
After doing an Internet Recovery and that not working, then rebooting several times to try to get to the install where it would actually see my hard drive, I was able to do that after doing Disk Verify and Restore a couple of times on the main HD and the recovery? drive. Tried to install the Lion then, says it is unavailable, which the tubes say is the next common problem. Anyway, after doing the verify and restore, I decided to reboot and OH FRABJOUS DAY! it booted right up. Then it told me that I had some software updates available, one was 10.9 and another was to upgrade 10.8.4, which is I think what caused the problems last night. 5.32GB ugh. So I am now downloading the 10.9 upgrade, will see if that works now. I declined the 10.8.5 and some other app updates, so maybe this will get it functioning again. I logged in with my AppleID, I hope that doesn't bugger things up if my wife's ID is still associated with this machine. I guess I'll see. It looks like that 10.8.5 upgrade software buggered the hard drive files or something. Applecrap software there. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on older (more than two years older than the OS) machines. Crappy support from Apple -- they really only want you to use a device for a year or two and buy another one, in spite of the fact that usually their hardware is very robust -- I'm using a MDD G4 dual 1.25GHz desktop to write this with zero issues once I got good memory in it. The root issue is bad security development in the first place, and since it's Unix, that goes back a long, long way. No excuse, especially at the price point, but it is what it is. Microsoft is STILL trying to kill off XP, after all. Sadly, it was by far the most stable OS they ever produced. I've not had serious problems with 7 at work, and I detest 8, but it's too early to tell. I do abhor the new Office package. Some idiot decided that all the menus needed to be changed around and everything re-named, and the whole screen is now pastels and low contrast -- I hope whoever decided that gets fired when they are 55 because they made a stupid mistake from being unable to read the options list Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
Now the machine has locked up with 1.90/5.32GB downloaded, looks like it gorked when the screen sleep or whatever kicked in. --R On 8/23/14 4:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on older (more than two years older than the OS) machines. Crappy support from Apple -- they really only want you to use a device for a year or two and buy another one, in spite of the fact that usually their hardware is very robust -- I'm using a MDD G4 dual 1.25GHz desktop to write this with zero issues once I got good memory in it. The root issue is bad security development in the first place, and since it's Unix, that goes back a long, long way. No excuse, especially at the price point, but it is what it is. Microsoft is STILL trying to kill off XP, after all. Sadly, it was by far the most stable OS they ever produced. I've not had serious problems with 7 at work, and I detest 8, but it's too early to tell. I do abhor the new Office package. Some idiot decided that all the menus needed to be changed around and everything re-named, and the whole screen is now pastels and low contrast -- I hope whoever decided that gets fired when they are 55 because they made a stupid mistake from being unable to read the options list Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep. I have never been able to understand why both PC and Apple computers can go to sleep when a program is active in the foreground Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
I have tried rebooting, no go. Now trying to boot into the Recovery and Disk Utility just gives me GSOD. This thing is buggered good. wow. --R On 8/23/14 5:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep. I have never been able to understand why both PC and Apple computers can go to sleep when a program is active in the foreground Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking thing and get on line. Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable? You should be able to boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another computer, thus allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer a working copy of the OS. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
I managed, again, to boot into recovery mode then was able to reboot from the recovery HD image, and it worked. I shut off the sleep and now it is downloading 10.9 Mavericks about 2/3 there. I am hoping this cures it. I hate their stupid names. It is funny, when it finally came alive again, the apps I had open when it tried to reboot last night are all open and my file I was using is there. I guess somehow it saves a state so it can be recovered. It rebooted into 10.3 I think, which was before the 10.8 updates. So it was trying to go from .3 to .8.5 Whatever, it should be finished in awhile, I'll see what sorts. I am not doing anything of the sort to my desktop machine, it can just crunch along on its old state. I will make a recovery DVD I guess when this all gets sorted. --R On 8/23/14 6:37 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking thing and get on line. Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable? You should be able to boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another computer, thus allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer a working copy of the OS. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] trailer hitches
I inquired a while ago I think... The consensus is that the hitch sold for the 300TD is a great hitch, but interferes with with exhaust pipe on a sedan. The work around is to install a 300TD muffler on your sedan. Otherwise, you get a bumper hitch from Curt. The kind that bolts to the spare tire well and bumper. I have installed one of these thing spring and I'm pretty happy with it for light use. I pulled my utility trailer with lighter loads (1000lbs total) and a log splitter so far. No complains. However, I'm going to remove it and sell the car I think, since I just acquired a W126 300SD that better suits my needs (which involves leave the car parked in a lot for weeks at a time). So I'll remove the hitch and get one for the W126... I think one is available that looks pretty good. Jaime On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks wasn't someone on the list making so 123 …. 300td trailer hitches? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
When you're making that big of a jump between revs it's almost always best to do the delta updates rather then the combo or full updates. The combo updates are what they would be downloading to your machine from the App Store. You have to go to the OSX support Web site for each rev and download each of the delta updates individually. From that big of a jump I would probably try to do a clean install with the latest supported OSX rev, Trying to update over 3-4 revs is going to be problematic at best. This is not an Apple issue - it would be like trying to jump from the original XP version to SP4 in one step. That big of a gap and stuff is going to break. MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:46 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I managed, again, to boot into recovery mode then was able to reboot from the recovery HD image, and it worked. I shut off the sleep and now it is downloading 10.9 Mavericks about 2/3 there. I am hoping this cures it. I hate their stupid names. It is funny, when it finally came alive again, the apps I had open when it tried to reboot last night are all open and my file I was using is there. I guess somehow it saves a state so it can be recovered. It rebooted into 10.3 I think, which was before the 10.8 updates. So it was trying to go from .3 to .8.5 Whatever, it should be finished in awhile, I'll see what sorts. I am not doing anything of the sort to my desktop machine, it can just crunch along on its old state. I will make a recovery DVD I guess when this all gets sorted. --R On 8/23/14 6:37 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking thing and get on line. Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable? You should be able to boot the laptop into disk mode and connect it to another computer, thus allowing you to run disk utility and possibly transfer a working copy of the OS. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
I bought a BX2370 new this spring. Its really outstanding. Simple three cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump. I have 25 hours on it now and have done a good amount of work with it. The heavy stuff was moving dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway. My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and off. With some practice, it gets easier. And with a big pry bar. I bought a 60 land pride grader scraper too. It does a great job on the driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it. I have to step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft. Jaime On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably Kubota. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad battery cables. In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end terminals) still looks fine. Mercedes content: These are Diesel tractors. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender Speaking of starting reminds me: Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch. I cut the mower off to talk to the painters. Couple minutes later, when I tried to re- start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing. Painters pushed mower and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D. Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached. SWMBO pushed mower and me to the mower's parking place. Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept me from tackling the mower problem until this morning. Meanwhile, #1 son came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the family's '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and in charge of the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother. While I worried that my brothers would accuse me of breaking the car, early Sunday afternoon a cousin about the age of one of my driver brothers stopped by for a visit. The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the yard. I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday afternoon after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons. He got a wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to Try it now while he tightened the battery cables a bit. That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded battery cables. Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and the battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
Patience, poos, patience On Aug 23, 2014 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's so great, why aren't you living there? Poos On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's only much of it where there are meth labs. lakeland is an up and coming small city with a great downtown that will build a huge high tech corridor along I4. it IS the future On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Uh, right. I move to Lakeland for an hour commute one way and get meth lab and grow house neighbors. No thanks. Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you sh ould move to lakeland as there is plenty of room On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't really need it at this point, but if I could get it for $500 I would jump on it. The car has some potential for a decent driver but not a big money flip. After I got the tank coated and the rest of the car cleaned up I could probably get $1500 for it around here. Any more than $500 and it's not worth the effort. It will cost me $50 in gas just to tow it home. And, I have a car that I'm getting after Labor Day that's going to be occupying my time for a little while anyway. Not enugh room in the driveway Dan On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Geez poos just buy it already! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
Well, I find it odd that you're constantly promoting Lakeland but after all this time you're still not living there, for that matter, you're not even living close to it. Just confusing with the mixed messages. And for what it's worth, I made the 1:30 race at Derby Lane today. Won $80. Not bad for 45 minutes at the track On Aug 23, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: Patience, poos, patience On Aug 23, 2014 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's so great, why aren't you living there? Poos ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor was 1984 500SEL Surrender
Many owners never (almost) remove the loader. With larger tractors, humans aren't strong enough to brute-force them back into position. The trick is to park on a very flat (preferably level) surface before removing the loader. My loader uses the skid-steer quick disconnect interface to the bucket; I can remove and install the bucket with ease so I've never had to remove the actual loader. I have a DK45S but on several occasions while working in the woods I wished for a smaller, more maneuverable tractor. Those 20-30 hp models tend to be real workhorses. Land Pride has a great reputation. I have found that many times the exact same attachment is painted different colors and marketed under several brand names. For example, my Deere box blade was made by Woods and my Phoenix finish mower was made by Sicma (and also marketed under at least five other brands). You may want to look at BXpanded.com for some interesting implements. Good luck with your BX. -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:26 PM I bought a BX2370 new this spring. Its really outstanding. Simple three cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump. I have 25 hours on it now and have done a good amount of work with it. The heavy stuff was moving dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway. My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and off. With some practice, it gets easier. And with a big pry bar. I bought a 60 land pride grader scraper too. It does a great job on the driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it. I have to step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor was 1984 500SEL Surrender
Thanks Scott... Level surface is big, and something I don't have where I store my attachments! I take off the loader for mowing. I learned (the hard way) that its really easy to destroy things like fence posts when you're maneuvering around in tight spaces! My bucket comes off the loader frame too... maybe I should go that route occasionally. I only remove it once to test fit the snow plow. The guys at Land Pride are great. Before I bought everything I gave them a call to ask about what size attachment would be best for my tractor. I was really impressed by the knowledge of the guy I ended up talking to. We were on the phone for half an hour. Definitely a company that knows its business, its products, and its customers. Jaime On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Many owners never (almost) remove the loader. With larger tractors, humans aren't strong enough to brute-force them back into position. The trick is to park on a very flat (preferably level) surface before removing the loader. My loader uses the skid-steer quick disconnect interface to the bucket; I can remove and install the bucket with ease so I've never had to remove the actual loader. I have a DK45S but on several occasions while working in the woods I wished for a smaller, more maneuverable tractor. Those 20-30 hp models tend to be real workhorses. Land Pride has a great reputation. I have found that many times the exact same attachment is painted different colors and marketed under several brand names. For example, my Deere box blade was made by Woods and my Phoenix finish mower was made by Sicma (and also marketed under at least five other brands). You may want to look at BXpanded.com for some interesting implements. Good luck with your BX. -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:26 PM I bought a BX2370 new this spring. Its really outstanding. Simple three cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump. I have 25 hours on it now and have done a good amount of work with it. The heavy stuff was moving dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway. My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and off. With some practice, it gets easier. And with a big pry bar. I bought a 60 land pride grader scraper too. It does a great job on the driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it. I have to step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft. Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT An eventful morning
That did happen on the 300SE. Today #1 boy drags me out to the car to show me the coolant mess near the overflow tank. Having not seen it before, I thought it was his head gasket. The spew was not at all as dramatic as he portrayed. Seemed to come from the overflow hose from the rad. Closer look shows a micro crack. Hot fluid was escaping, but not horrid. No shoe goo, so I drug out the spare tank and had him clean it out and install. All good now clay On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: W140s have a tee fitting on the firewall that likes to crack or break at inopportune times and promptly yak the contents of the cooling system on the ground. If you're moving at highway speeds this happens in a matter of seconds. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I go pick up my wife at the airport this morning, as I am leaving the waiting parking area the Suburban starts hesitating and chugging. The Low Coolant light had come on so while waiting I put in about 1/2 gal of coolant. (THis has been an ongoing occasional issue, no clear source of leaking, figuring at 200k miles the head gasket might be going bad.) Temp not excessive. Get to pick her up and it dies. I get it going again, we get about a half mile down the road, dead no go. I am poking around trying to figure out the problem, I see one plastic press-on heater hose fitting broken at the firewall. That'll do it. So then I am fooling with that and the other one next to it snaps off too. Yay. Looks like there is a valve that controls coolant flow, down at the engine, but started it and it ran a few seconds, coolant puking out the hose so no way to drive it even if it started and ran. So fortunately she has AAA so we call for a tow. Flatbed shows up in like 45min. brings everything home. I am looking up this problem on the intertubes, and see it is a common problem. That's comforting, at least the parts are cheap enough. Was planning to do the 200k service and change all hoses and belts and fluids and such when it cooled down a bit, looks like at least that part will be done sooner. I am hoping that some other problem of a more significant nature did not manifest due to low coolant. I'll probably just bypass the heater for now until I can get parts, see if the thing will start and run after it cools down more. Plus it is in the 90s today, so that will take awhile. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002 clay On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320? Thanks, Craig -- Present:'95 E320 Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
Is that the small sub compact or the compact? Did you buy one of those package deals with the tractor, trailer, ect? How much was your cost? How much land do you have? I will be on 20 acres. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a BX2370 new this spring. Its really outstanding. Simple three cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump. I have 25 hours on it now and have done a good amount of work with it. The heavy stuff was moving dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway. My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and off. With some practice, it gets easier. And with a big pry bar. I bought a 60 land pride grader scraper too. It does a great job on the driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it. I have to step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft. Jaime On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably Kubota. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad battery cables. In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end terminals) still looks fine. Mercedes content: These are Diesel tractors. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender Speaking of starting reminds me: Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch. I cut the mower off to talk to the painters. Couple minutes later, when I tried to re- start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing. Painters pushed mower and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D. Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached. SWMBO pushed mower and me to the mower's parking place. Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept me from tackling the mower problem until this morning. Meanwhile, #1 son came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the family's '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and in charge of the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother. While I worried that my brothers would accuse me of breaking the car, early Sunday afternoon a cousin about the age of one of my driver brothers stopped by for a visit. The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the yard. I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday afternoon after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons. He got a wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to Try it now while he tightened the battery cables a bit. That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded battery cables. Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and the battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender
Ok the bx is the small sub compact, too small for me, I need the larger b series. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that the small sub compact or the compact? Did you buy one of those package deals with the tractor, trailer, ect? How much was your cost? How much land do you have? I will be on 20 acres. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a BX2370 new this spring. Its really outstanding. Simple three cylinder diesel with mechanical injection pump. I have 25 hours on it now and have done a good amount of work with it. The heavy stuff was moving dirt and rock around the yard, and cleaning up 2000ft of gravel driveway. My only complaint is that its a real PITA to get the deck and loader on and off. With some practice, it gets easier. And with a big pry bar. I bought a 60 land pride grader scraper too. It does a great job on the driveway, and takes an impressive amount of power to pull it. I have to step on the diff lock occasionally when it gets loaded up and the road is soft. Jaime On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably Kubota. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Scott Ritchey viaMercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A surprisingly common problem in the utility tractor community is bad battery cables. In these cases the conductor fails (corrosion) under the insulation where it's not visible such that the cable (and the end terminals) still looks fine. Mercedes content: These are Diesel tractors. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:14 PM To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender Speaking of starting reminds me: Coupla weeks ago, I had just made one pass at curb across front yard with JD riding mower when painting crew working on outside of the house pulled up to curb after lunch. I cut the mower off to talk to the painters. Couple minutes later, when I tried to re- start the mower, it only groaned once then nothing. Painters pushed mower and me to within jumper cable distance of the battery in the '87 300D. Mower still only groaned with jumper cables attached. SWMBO pushed mower and me to the mower's parking place. Rain, heat, humidity, skeeters, procrastination and most anything kept me from tackling the mower problem until this morning. Meanwhile, #1 son came and cut grass once and I thought occasionally about how the family's '37 Ford suddenly would not start one weekend in 1948 when I was 14 and had taken the car on extended spins around and around the house many times while my two brothers, who were the family drivers and in charge of the car were on a weekend trip with a third brother. While I worried that my brothers would accuse me of breaking the car, early Sunday afternoon a cousin about the age of one of my driver brothers stopped by for a visit. The cousin asked me why the car was sitting in a strange position in the yard. I told 'im I'd been driving it, and it would not start on Saturday afternoon after I had taken a lunch break from my self-taught driving lessons. He got a wrench, opened the hood ad asked me to Try it now while he tightened the battery cables a bit. That's when I learned about loose and/or corroded battery cables. Shonuff, 'removed the mower battery cables, cleaned the cable ends and the battery terminals, reattached the cables and mower starts right up. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL Surrender I'm thinking this guy is going to be back to me in a couple of weeks, ready to take $500 for this car I saw that he just updated the CL listing for it instead of creating a new listing. Not a bright idea, as it will stay way, way down the list and not be current. And he's asking $950, not $700 like he was earlier. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4587368673.html Car will start. Wow. That gives me a lot of confidence. I'll give him until after the Labor Day weekend. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
clay via Mercedes wrote: I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002 I thought the electronic five speeds from about 1997-up required the special juice? Two years ago, when I bought the 1999 wagon, you could still get a case of Shell 134 from Ryder Fleet for a lot less than M1 Dexron. Ryder seems to have retired its Sprinters and quit stocking the stuff. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
