[MBZ] OT: FCC Net Neutrality
I'd love to hear the opinions on the subject line, especially from those of you who make a living in the IT industry. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: More IT, good wireless router / DSL Modem options
My $30 router/modem has (partially) died after just a few years. Suggestions on a replacement? I liked having both DSL modem and wireless router in one package, but if a good argument can be made for splitting them up, I'm open to that. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
Even if the thermostat is bad, I would do a pressure flush of the block from the bottom radiator hose up to blow out anything that might be in the block passages, just to be sure. This car has had a rather long history of overheat issues, spanning two owners.. with a number of fixes which didn't fix... Something, somewhere, is not right.. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
I am nothing but a plus size model, but it always amazes me how aged the vegans and healthy eaters look. Bad hair, bad skin, scrawny, looking as if they had just been liberated by allied forces in the spring of 1945. They are gobbling up supplements and biotics to attempt to keep at bay the same destruction to their bodies their own habits have caused. Eat a Cheese burger, won't cha? clay On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Rich wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. Fat cells produce chemicals that have a calming effect. Recent research also found that fat produces an antibiotic that allows fat peoples skin injuries to heal more quickly. A study done years ago found that fat retirees who did not diet, lived longer than those who lived on a diet in order to keep from getting fat. (The word fat indicates any excess above the current normal range for their height and bony structure.) Gerry Keeps ya alive longer when ya hafta go into a hospital too. Skinny people don't last long on hospital food... (serious studies on this) Natural fats in food, particularly UNadulterated Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids are essential to human life. Every cell needs them to survive. The lack of these FAs leads to many diseases. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
In spite of the conventional wisdom, it is entirely possible to be too thin, and many fad diets are lacking in nutrients. Humans have been omnivores for millions of years, vegan diets are very likely to be lacking in things like vitamin B12, which is only found in a couple plant sources (that most people don't eat). If you do a bit of digging, you will find that the Body Mass Index is quite misleading in terms of health -- the group of people sorted by body mass index that have the highest mortality and morbidity are the ones in the normal range, the healthiest (lowest morbidity and mortality rates) and in the overweight group. A much better measurement is body fat percentage, but even then the sickest people are in the lowest weight class, I suspect because they are underweight due to pre-existing illness, not because being thin makes you sick. Humans in evolutionary terms did not have constant food supplies as we do today, we evolved in a feast or famine situation, which is why many populations in marginal environments for people tend to gain huge amounts of weight on a steady high calorie diet -- the ability to store excess calories efficiently let them survive long periods of inadequate food supply, while those who didn't store up every available calorie died of starvation when the food supply got skimpy. You don't want to be carrying so much excess weight you wreck your knees and can't breath sitting down, but a few extra pounds won't hurt you. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
Still not sure I understand why engine braking especially down hill would lower temps dramatically. Perhaps it causes an air bubble to dislodge? Anyway, I just forced the tstat open with a piece of brass tubing. Let's see what that does. If I get no answers, I will take car to radiator shop. They said they will pressure test cooling system and also look for head leaks. About $100 for that service. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:33 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- wrote: Interestingly, I noticed that heavy engine braking down hill would bring the temps from almost in the red to normal, but once I started accelerating the temp would rise again. Wonder why it did that? At idle, most diesel engines produce very little heat. With the engine forced to turn and pump cold air through it, what little heat the burning fuel made is carried out the tail pipe. So - no heat being generated means no heat for the cooling system to carry away - so no problem! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
OK will do I'm going to look at this one http://www.mbnorthlake.com/certified/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-38bf7ca40a0a00657da2d4d36fee3e73.htm *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 Turns out the other one is in Colorado --R On 2/26/15 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Google Russian VIN sites mercedes and see what comes up. There are a number of them out there that will decide VINs and give you all the options, if that's what you're looking for. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
gassers control combustion by a flapper in the air intake, controlling airflow into the cyl. Diesels run at full air flow all the time, combustion is controlled with fuel. In effect coasting downhill, the fuel is shut off, no heat occurrs and the cylinders are washed with lotsa cool air. nothing to generate heat, cept friction. Still not sure I understand why engine braking especially down hill would lower temps dramatically. Perhaps it causes an air bubble to dislodge? Anyway, I just forced the tstat open with a piece of brass tubing. Let's see what that does. If I get no answers, I will take car to radiator shop. They said they will pressure test cooling system and also look for head leaks. About $100 for that service. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:33 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- wrote: Interestingly, I noticed that heavy engine braking down hill would bring the temps from almost in the red to normal, but once I started accelerating the temp would rise again. Wonder why it did that? At idle, most diesel engines produce very little heat. With the engine forced to turn and pump cold air through it, what little heat the burning fuel made is carried out the tail pipe. So - no heat being generated means no heat for the cooling system to carry away - so no problem! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Work test
I was trying to get email set up on my ifon, and for some reason the same settings as on my minipad were not working. I'm not exactly sure what I finally did but it seems to work now. --R 'round her, fail means success! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
Google Russian VIN sites mercedes and see what comes up. There are a number of them out there that will decide VINs and give you all the options, if that's what you're looking for. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 *2014 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
Not while at work, but this evening from home PC I can get data card from EPC. All you need is free EPC account to pull the data card. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 26, 2015 11:02:48 AM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 *2014 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] build sheets
Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 *2014 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Work test
I was trying to get email set up on my ifon, and for some reason the same settings as on my minipad were not working. I'm not exactly sure what I finally did but it seems to work now. --R On 2/25/15 10:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:50:28 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: iFail. Ifon Shouldn't that be youFail? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
On 25/02/2015 7:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My great uncle Reg swore getting ejected from the vehicle was the best thing that could happen to you. He was terrified of burning to death inside. Personally I'll take my chances inside the big metal box rather than having the big metal box run me down. -Curt I knew a fellow (Jim) who likely avoided serious injury because he was not wearing a seatbelt but I don't think I want to use that as an excuse not to buckle up. He was driving a big Pontiac wagon back in the very early 70's (one of the ones with the wierd tailgate- a brown color as I recall) and got T-Boned by a small dump truck that lost its brakes as it approached the highway and basically rolled right out and nailed the car on the driver's door. Jim was lucky that he did not have a seat belt on and that the car had bench seats. He just slid sideways on the seat as the door encroached into the cab of the vehicle. He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. No bones were broken. As it happens, I also knew the fellow driving the truck - Walter. This happened out at the lake and it is a small community. Walter in the truck was exiting the road from the town dump and Jim just happened to be driving by on the highway. The road out of the dump came downhill a bit just before the highway. I don't think Walter was going very fast, and Jim probably was not going at that fast either. A coincidence of sorts as a second or two in either way and they would have avoided each other. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: gassers control combustion by a flapper in the air intake, controlling airflow into the cyl. Diesels run at full air flow all the time, combustion is controlled with fuel. In effect coasting downhill, the fuel is shut off, no heat occurrs and the cylinders are washed with lotsa cool air. nothing to generate heat, cept friction. Still not sure I understand why engine braking especially down hill would lower temps dramatically. Perhaps it causes an air bubble to dislodge? Anyway, I just forced the tstat open with a piece of brass tubing. Let's see what that does. If I get no answers, I will take car to radiator shop. They said they will pressure test cooling system and also look for head leaks. About $100 for that service. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:33 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- wrote: Interestingly, I noticed that heavy engine braking down hill would bring the temps from almost in the red to normal, but once I started accelerating the temp would rise again. Wonder why it did that? At idle, most diesel engines produce very little heat. With the engine forced to turn and pump cold air through it, what little heat the burning fuel made is carried out the tail pipe. So - no heat being generated means no heat for the cooling system to carry away - so no problem! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:10:01 -0500 LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Give me your chassis/VIN # and I'll give you the type of trans without a doubt - unless it's been swapped out ;-) Chassis: WDBEA32E7SC217008 Engine: M104.992-12-080780 Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig needs a new shirt
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:53:14 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It looks like this: http://www.sunfrogshirts.com/Geek--Tech/Pi-Day-2015--RoyalBlue-16863900-Guys.html?374135 Cute! I think I'll save my money for something else, however. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
On 25/02/2015 7:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Curly wrote: I'd guess no seatbelts and rollover/ejection is what is killing the covered or open pickup folks. One old guy swore that his ejection from single car accident was what kept him alive. He ran the Jeep dealership in Rock Springs. mao That has been known to happen frequently. (particularly befoe 1966.) Also helps if landing is in a snowbank or muddy freshly plowed field (not many of them anymore.) However, that theory is often squashed when the vehicle lands on top of the ejectee, or perhaps cuts the would be ejectee in half as the vehicle separates the part still in the vehicle from the part outside. ___ I have an uncle who endured that sort of thing. He had the flu and had been home for a few days recuperating. He started to feel better and went out to drive to the store - probably for smokes back then, although he has given that up long ago. He is now 80 and this happened when he was in his late 20's or early 30's near Red Lake, Ontario. He was not as well as he thought he was. He thinks he maybe passed out as the car went into a deep ditch and he was thrown out through the windshield, sort of backwards. He came to and crawled to a house looking for help. Good thing he did or he wouldn't be here. The doctor later told him that he had darned near cut his A** off. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
Ohio State Police should fine that idiot's a** for 1) not wearing a seat bet, 2) driving recklessly, 3) speeding, and 4) driving while a)stoned OR b)drunk On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: check this dude out http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-guy-get-completely- ejected-from-his-car-and-1688183818 --R On 2/26/15 1:33 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
That's kinda funny. ??? Perfect example of I'm driving a big ol' SUV, I don't need to slow down for this ice and snow (or wear a seat belt)!!! ??? -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. Sent from my iPhone Put some cardboard or something in front of the radiator to get the engine temp up closer to normal. Seems like the boil-over episodes occur frequently after driving at highway speeds and then slowing down or idling? -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
check this dude out http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-guy-get-completely-ejected-from-his-car-and-1688183818 --R On 2/26/15 1:33 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
I also knew a fellow who apparently survived being ejected but was then run over by at least one other car and killed. He was a bartender at the hotel out at the lake. The hotel closes for the winter and for weeks he was going on about how, as soon as they closed, he was heading for Florida. He got to Florida but not for long as that was where the accident happened. This was about 43 years ago. RB On 26/02/2015 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: check this dude out http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-guy-get-completely-ejected-from-his-car-and-1688183818 --R On 2/26/15 1:33 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:12:51 -0500 dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? When you let off the throttle, the amount of fuel injected goes to almost zero (or exactly zero, depending upon how the injection pump works). With no fuel input, there will be no heat, as previously mentioned. No fuel --- No heat --- The cooling capacity is excess of what is needed --- Engine cools down. BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. That is what you would expect when you have an open thermostat and cold weather and the rest of the cooling system is operating properly. But as I recall, your problem was intermittent, so this good result may not be indicative of your entire situation. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
3 bad thermostats at least? On Feb 26, 2015 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
So you're saying that lack of fatty acids leads to lack of fatty asses? --R On 2/26/15 5:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Rich wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. Fat cells produce chemicals that have a calming effect. Recent research also found that fat produces an antibiotic that allows fat peoples skin injuries to heal more quickly. A study done years ago found that fat retirees who did not diet, lived longer than those who lived on a diet in order to keep from getting fat. (The word fat indicates any excess above the current normal range for their height and bony structure.) Gerry Keeps ya alive longer when ya hafta go into a hospital too. Skinny people don't last long on hospital food... (serious studies on this) Natural fats in food, particularly UNadulterated Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids are essential to human life. Every cell needs them to survive. The lack of these FAs leads to many diseases. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
Guys, It is not that weird. That would be really weird! I need to test car for a few more days to confirm. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3 bad thermostats at least? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ebay scam?
Holy. Why all the angst? Do the right thing and email them. Let them sort it out if they want. You'll be a better person for it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: ...contact the seller, make them aware of the error, and see how they want to deal with it. Yes, I opened both, one correct, one incorrect. The problem I envision, how do either of us ensure neither of us is out $$. Does ebay system have mechanism for this? I think I will wait to see if they can see their mistake. Two package tracking numbers arrive at one address should be a good alert. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
I just remembered a similar problem a friend had that no mechanic in the small town where we lived could explain. It turned out that a piece of the rubber that lined one of the radiator hoses was periodically blocking the water flow. Since there were bends in the radiator hose, no one could check the hose visually. They put two of the new universal hoses that could be bent to fit on the car and that solved the intermittent overheating problem. After that they cut open the old hoses and verified the cause of the overheating. I wonder how old the hoses are on this car? Gerry G Mann wrote: Even if the thermostat is bad, I would do a pressure flush of the block from the bottom radiator hose up to blow out anything that might be in the block passages, just to be sure. This car has had a rather long history of overheat issues, spanning two owners.. with a number of fixes which didn't fix... Something, somewhere, is not right.. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4299/9186 - Release Date: 02/26/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
Now that you have a forced open thermostat, it's time to do a citric acid flush. You will need a kilogram of food grade citric acid (should be able to find that fairly easily without spending the money for analytical grade). Dissolve in a gallon of water. Empty cooling system, including draining the block through the drain valve or plug. Close drain valve on block and radiator (or put drain plug back in), pour in the gallon of citric acid solution and bring the cooling system up to volume with water. If there is evidence of oil in the cooling system, don't put the citric acid in, put in a half pound or so of dishwasher detergent (without chlorine) or a couple pounds of sodium carbonate -- washing soda, available at the grocery store. Fill with water. Drive the car with the heater set on full heat. Might need to block part of the radiator in this weather to get it warm, don't overheat it. You want either the detergent or the citric acid to get warm and circulate for a while. Let it cool if it got warm, then drain, flush, fill with water, drive it a while, and then let it cool and drain it. Keep filling and emptying the detergent rinse until it's not slippery feeling, the citric acid mixture until it's not acid (use litmus paper if you can find it, or pH papers from the home-brew store). You don't need the detergent flush if there isn't oil in the overflow tank. Chances are you fill have a ton of crud come out when you drain the block, since I suspect you have a lot of carbonate scale in there that cracked loose from the block when it got hot and dry. And verify that you do not indeed have a flapin the hose! It happens with brake lines too. A one-way valve in the wrong direction isn't very helpful. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
Rich wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. Fat cells produce chemicals that have a calming effect. Recent research also found that fat produces an antibiotic that allows fat peoples skin injuries to heal more quickly. A study done years ago found that fat retirees who did not diet, lived longer than those who lived on a diet in order to keep from getting fat. (The word fat indicates any excess above the current normal range for their height and bony structure.) Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
Rich wrote: OH NO Now we'll have the gummint demanding fat bags in all cars! --R On 2/26/15 12:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: He said his doctor also suggested he likely avoided some injuries because he was big and fat. Fat cells produce chemicals that have a calming effect. Recent research also found that fat produces an antibiotic that allows fat peoples skin injuries to heal more quickly. A study done years ago found that fat retirees who did not diet, lived longer than those who lived on a diet in order to keep from getting fat. (The word fat indicates any excess above the current normal range for their height and bony structure.) Gerry Keeps ya alive longer when ya hafta go into a hospital too. Skinny people don't last long on hospital food... (serious studies on this) Natural fats in food, particularly UNadulterated Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids are essential to human life. Every cell needs them to survive. The lack of these FAs leads to many diseases. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
This all makes no sense since they swapped out the radiator. The car is cursed. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just remembered a similar problem a friend had that no mechanic in the small town where we lived could explain. It turned out that a piece of the rubber that lined one of the radiator hoses was periodically blocking the water flow. Since there were bends in the radiator hose, no one could check the hose visually. They put two of the new universal hoses that could be bent to fit on the car and that solved the intermittent overheating problem. After that they cut open the old hoses and verified the cause of the overheating. I wonder how old the hoses are on this car? Gerry G Mann wrote: Even if the thermostat is bad, I would do a pressure flush of the block from the bottom radiator hose up to blow out anything that might be in the block passages, just to be sure. This car has had a rather long history of overheat issues, spanning two owners.. with a number of fixes which didn't fix... Something, somewhere, is not right.. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4299/9186 - Release Date: 02/26/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Testtttttt
Blah --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
Ask and you shall receive On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 *2014 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085 -- - Max Charleston SC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 47043 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150226/accfb879/attachment.pdf -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 46591 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150226/accfb879/attachment-0001.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
Thanks, I found it on the rooshan web site that Dan suggested I look up. --R On 2/26/15 6:09 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Ask and you shall receive On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? *2012 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB9CA052421 *2014 MERCEDES-BENZ ML350 BLUETEC * VIN: 4JGDA2EB8EA397085 -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Recovering a Leather Steering Wheel
Grant, Thanks for the detailed write-up! It will definitely be a help when I start to tackle this project. We do have a Tandy Leather store in Tampa, and it just happens to be on my way home, so I’ll be stopping in once I get the steering wheel and assess the condition. I was planning on carefully removing the existing leather to use as a template. I was curious - does Tandy sell small pieces of leather such as what might be required? I really don’t want to have to buy a whole hide… it’s tough to tell from looking at their web site. Again, thanks! Dan On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:52 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've done a couple of wheel recovers, so I'll pitch my .02 cents of wisdom into the collective pot.. If you have a Tandy leather store locally, visit them as a supply source for good oil tanned leather that is the correct thickness for your wheel. What you will be using, most likely is leather that is prepared for garments. I suggest you also visit an upholstery supply store that will sell Naugahyde, which is pretty cheap and if you get some that can be stretched in both directions, can be used to make a workable pattern measure twice.. cut once.. good leather isn't cheap. Also.. I suggest that you mount the wheel on a device of your own design that hold the wheel so it is easy for you to work with it, you are going to be a while.. don't rush. Once you have the pattern made that gives you the total length you need to slip the hoop of fabric on the wheel [you should need to stretch it just a bit to get it on the wheel and about 1/4 to 1/3 of the radius of the wheel should bulge into the hoop. Then establish the width of the pattern piece so that it closes the two edges together. Here comes a decision for you to make at that time.. What kind of edge finish do you want at the closure seam? I suggest you will want to allow enough extra material in the wrap width to allow you to turn under a hem and leave two finished edges that butt together at the stitched seam inside the wheel.. Make that decision, and adjust your pattern to accommodate what ever you have decided. Then. cut leather using the pattern.. Then.. turn under the seam hem and stitch it nicely on SWMBO's nice sewing machine.. If you are sewing garment thick leather, a home machine will do it nicely.. trick.. Use a round point needle in the machine.. When you turn under the hem seam, a little white glue will hold the hem in place, not to much, just a finger smear along the seam allowance, turn the hem seam and press it flat with finger pressure, take you time.. think old world craftsman... Once the hem seam is flat.. stitch it, being very careful to make a nice straight edge distance for the stitch line... it will show. Also.. make the hem stitch line wider than you think you should from the turned edge... It's important for the next step. Then... Take the thread out of the machine.. take the thread out of the bobbin.. Set the machine on the widest stitch [ usually something like 12 stitches per inch, perhaps as few as 8, depending on what machine you have] Being very careful to keep the edge distance straight.. stitch a line of holes with the machine between the hem seam you just stitched and the turned edge. Do this on both sides of the strip that is about to become your new steering wheel cover.. You now will have a strip of leather with a nice hem.. and the perfectly spaced lacing holes pre punched. This strip can be made of several shorter pieces if you wish to not have to buy a whole hide of leather. Just join them along end seams with at least 30 degree angles.. to the length. The stitch pattern of the joints is up to you.. french seams, butt seams.. overlaps.. you pick.. Also.. if you wish to have more than one type of leather on the wheel.. you get to decide the layout for that. Then: Using your carefully made pattern, on the machine.. sew the ends of the now prepared strip together to make the hoop which you will stretch over the wheel... you will have to use some judgement based on the chosen leather and how much stretch it has. I'm not a big fan of wet leather.. it will darken the leather and could ruin the finish you desire.. I suggest you will have good success with two good sized needles and the correct waxed thread [bees wax is what you want.. not paraffin wax]. Start lacing the hoop to the wheel. Pay attention to the leather.. it will tell you how much it can stretch. You may find, for the leather you have chosen, you need to make several tack stitches around the diameter of the wheel to close the leather and let it adjust to it's new shape.. before lacing it continuous.. your judgement on that. A light spray to the inside surface of the leather to slightly dampen it could be helpful also.. while you stitch and massage the hoop into the shape of
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I love that “like I stole it” phrase! Just imagining it a 240D is rather amusing…… On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:16 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:15:05 PM EST To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info I sure hope it stays that way. I drove the car like I stole it today for a total of 90 miles in conditions ranging from stop and go city traffic to 75mph highway travel. The temp gauge read stone cold the entire time with no exceptions. Very interesting. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If it stays that way until you take out the copper, then it will prove the car has had 3 bad thermostats. So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:15:05 PM EST To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info I sure hope it stays that way. I drove the car like I stole it today for a total of 90 miles in conditions ranging from stop and go city traffic to 75mph highway travel. The temp gauge read stone cold the entire time with no exceptions. Very interesting. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If it stays that way until you take out the copper, then it will prove the car has had 3 bad thermostats. So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info
That would be really weird! I need to test car for a few more days to confirm. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3 bad thermostats at least? On Feb 26, 2015 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 2:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: On the one hand I hope this fixes the issue because I'd like to see it fixed. On the other hand I really hope this isn't it... Curt So, if this did fix it, then the verdict would be a bad thermostat?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
The government use junk science, as a means to an end? Say it isn't so... New artery disease theory. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3492120/?report=classic Some commentary. http://youtu.be/kos0OdQ52Bg Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Original Message From: clay via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:10 PM To: Curly McLain; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: clay Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers I am nothing but a plus size model, but it always amazes me how aged the vegans and healthy eaters look. Bad hair, bad skin, scrawny, looking as if they had just been liberated by allied forces in the spring of 1945. They are gobbling up supplements and biotics to attempt to keep at bay the same destruction to their bodies their own habits have caused. Eat a Cheese burger, won't cha? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ebay scam?
Honesty, its not only morally correct, its highly efficient! -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay scam? On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:40:28 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy. Why all the angst? Do the right thing and email them. Let them sort it out if they want. You'll be a better person for it. Yes, what he said! Contact them and point out their mistake. It is, after all, their mistake. How it's rectified should be up to them (though it should not cost you any extra money). Whether they send you a pre-paid business return label or let you keep the wrong product or what is up to them. Rusty sent me an incorrect horn one time. I called him and he said to keep it, that it wasn't worth sending back. I think I still have it someplace around here. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ebay scam?
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:40:28 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy. Why all the angst? Do the right thing and email them. Let them sort it out if they want. You'll be a better person for it. Yes, what he said! Contact them and point out their mistake. It is, after all, their mistake. How it's rectified should be up to them (though it should not cost you any extra money). Whether they send you a pre-paid business return label or let you keep the wrong product or what is up to them. Rusty sent me an incorrect horn one time. I called him and he said to keep it, that it wasn't worth sending back. I think I still have it someplace around here. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] build sheets
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:09:04 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ask and you shall receive On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have access to build sheets for particular vehicles? How about: 1995 Mercedes Benz E320 WDBEA32E7SC217008 ? Thanks, Max. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ebay scam?
Mao is a strange dude Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy. Why all the angst? Do the right thing and email them. Let them sort it out if they want. You'll be a better person for it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: ...contact the seller, make them aware of the error, and see how they want to deal with it. Yes, I opened both, one correct, one incorrect. The problem I envision, how do either of us ensure neither of us is out $$. Does ebay system have mechanism for this? I think I will wait to see if they can see their mistake. Two package tracking numbers arrive at one address should be a good alert. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Yes my father was a truck driver in one of his earlier careers he told me that when I got my first 240D. It is funny for that MB. On Feb 26, 2015 7:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I love that “like I stole it” phrase! Just imagining it a 240D is rather amusing…… On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:16 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:15:05 PM EST To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info I sure hope it stays that way. I drove the car like I stole it today for a total of 90 miles in conditions ranging from stop and go city traffic to 75mph highway travel. The temp gauge read stone cold the entire time with no exceptions. Very interesting. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: If it stays that way until you take out the copper, then it will prove the car has had 3 bad thermostats. So if the car had a head issue, would the temp drop from almost red zone to normal like that by engine breaking down a hill? BTW, I've been driving with forced open tstat now and the temp gauge reads stone cold, even after a 15 minutes 65 mph highway drive. It will not budge. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Believe me, I won't get my hopes up! This car is possessed! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Be patient. It's been an intermittent thing so you want to be sure this is the problem. Partially blocking the radiator is a good idea. It will help achieve a more normal engine temp as well as make the problem visible sooner, if it recurs. Good luck with this. -Original Message- From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:16 PM ... From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:15:05 PM EST To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info I sure hope it stays that way. I drove the car like I stole it today for a total of 90 miles in conditions ranging from stop and go city traffic to 75mph highway travel. The temp gauge read stone cold the entire time with no exceptions. Very interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Deadliest cars for drivers
I agree, but do have one example of an exception - our flight instructor and I.A. has been a vegan for approx. 50 yrs. He also operates as a one man construction company. He is as thin as a rail, but works 6 days a week, and has forever. He's been fighting leukemia for the last 8 years without chemo or radiation. He's 76 now, and is just starting to talk about slowing down a little, though I haven't seen him starting to yet. His first job out of college was as a pilot for the State Ag university. He flew profs and school officials around to various food industry sites around the4 country and decided that God did not intend for animals to live like that. He stopped eating all meat and animal products then and hasn't since. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:10 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am nothing but a plus size model, but it always amazes me how aged the vegans and healthy eaters look. Bad hair, bad skin, scrawny, looking as if they had just been liberated by allied forces in the spring of 1945. They are gobbling up supplements and biotics to attempt to keep at bay the same destruction to their bodies their own habits have caused. Eat a Cheese burger, won't cha? clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Be patient. It's been an intermittent thing so you want to be sure this is the problem. Partially blocking the radiator is a good idea. It will help achieve a more normal engine temp as well as make the problem visible sooner, if it recurs. Good luck with this. -Original Message- From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:16 PM ... From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 26, 2015 at 6:15:05 PM EST To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info I sure hope it stays that way. I drove the car like I stole it today for a total of 90 miles in conditions ranging from stop and go city traffic to 75mph highway travel. The temp gauge read stone cold the entire time with no exceptions. Very interesting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
