Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

"Eight years" to develop the engine???  That explains a lot...

Still, a promising turn for more diesel fueled vehicles...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 15, 2015 12:57:59 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>
>http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/06/chevy-colorado-diesel-promises-best-in-class-towing-torque.html
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>-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I'd check the engine fan to be sure it turns freely.  I think it is 
one of the highest energy consumers in that list



I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and 
scorching as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to 
read:  backup lamp, heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, 
heating system for washer jets, climate control system, relay aux 
fan term. 86, auto. trans. electrics, blower motor inside temp. 
sensor, air cond. compressor.  (I filled in several obscured words 
with imagination and/or what I vaguely remember.  Can somebody 
please verify it for me?)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse


#7 fuse has blown couple more times.  The placard inside the fuse 
box cover is scorched, obscuring the list of systems in addition to 
compressor on that fuse, and I can't open the pdf file showing such 
as I have many times before.  Can somebody, please, send me a photo 
of the placard or the appropriate pdf showing those items on fuse 
#7 for '87 300D?


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 


To: "mercedes list" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Blown fuse

SWMBO came in from short trip in the '87 300D, leaned over back of 
chair in cool living room where I was napping and announced, 
"Blown fuse in the car.  I was driving along with air conditioning 
blasting away nicely, and it just quit.  Don't ya think it's a 
blown fuse?"


I replied, "Yep; sure hope that's all it is."  'Hobbled out to car 
thinking 30 amp blower fuse had blown.  Loosened the two mounting 
screws thinking the fuse would fall apart as I removed it, but it 
did not. Checked fuses in fuse box; 'found #7 (for compressor and 
coupla other things) blown.  Because of my shaky hands, called 
SWMBO to help me put blower fuse back in place and R&R #7.  A/C 
blowing ice cold again.


BTW, I did NOT change ALL the fuses.  ;<)

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 380 SL Diesel

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Sounds like a project for you and Clay and Jim to collaborate on!



Just spotted this one on the local craigslist.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5125549123.html



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Re: [MBZ] OT Energy Positive House built in Wales for not much $$!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/15/britains-first-energy-positive-house-opens-in-wales?utm_source=EnergyGuardian_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13999
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When are you moving?  Should be nice to live there.  All quite 
refined, you know!

Socialized medicine at its finest.

I can use some of your 123 parts, unless they will be going with you. 
Once you get settled in , you can scout the knackers fer pahtz fer us!


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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

What about the nearest junk yards?  Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239


car-part.com is your friend

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[MBZ] Bent.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.What Curt said, so much more elegantly.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] FW: mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dwight.Probably.May also be loose crank-bolt/sheared key. Either way cranking 
over an interference engine to check that the cam does not turn will cause all 
sorts of damage.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:27:36 -0400
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> 
> Chain?
> On Jul 16, 2015 12:18 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Engine failure. The mind boggles.
  
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.1. I have to keep it whole and mobile.2. It is not a reasonable car to 
restore.3. Anyone in need of an low mileage engine with a rebuilt head or 
transmission or suspension and other parts will get very good parts.4. Before I 
got it, the car was in at least two accidents and not well repaired, so, the 
body is s**t, rust and bondo.Next. 

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] FW: mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Chain?
On Jul 16, 2015 12:18 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Engine failure. The mind boggles.
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> From: ro...@craigslist.org
> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
> Subject: mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel
> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:11:03 +
>
>
>
>
> fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>
>
>
> mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel
> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5125611318.html
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[MBZ] Must Be a Boob Man

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looking forward to checking out that “Titronic” automatic all wheel drive.



Thanks folks, I’ll be here all week.  Be sure to try the veal….

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Energy Positive House built in Wales for not much $$!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:

Nice!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Monovalve malfunction

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks.

Just clamped it off with a big hemostat I had in the tool bag, we'll see if 
that helps.

This weekend I'll probably examine the insert to see if I need to order a new 
one.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 16, 2015 6:34:52 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Clamp 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> If the monovalve insert is leaking, but I really want the AC on full,
>can I unplug the monovalve to stop the flow of hot water to the heater
>core, or do I need to clamp off the hose?
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:45:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Sold in one piece to be used as parts by somebody else as opposed to
> the massive and annoying job of selling parts off of a car and then
> being stuck with a rusting hulk. -Curt

Now that makes sense!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Monovalve malfunction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Clamp 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If the monovalve insert is leaking, but I really want the AC on full, can I 
> unplug the monovalve to stop the flow of hot water to the heater core, or do 
> I need to clamp off the hose?
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should tackle a floor rust project

[clay via Mercedes]

I will sell you my 300D race car for $499


clay 

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
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> 
> 1969 Mercedes 220D
> http://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/5103751350.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 380 SL Diesel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

clutch is not hooked up because it has an auto tranny in it now
he says it had a manual tranny at one time in the past

RB

On 16/07/2015 4:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Clutch is not hooked up!
Not driveable!
A/C ran ice cold last time I checked!

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


No engine pictures?
How disappointing.

I see what may be a set of what may be, 16inch wheels and tires, which
would NOT be proper for that car.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Just spotted this one on the local craigslist.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon


http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5125549123.html


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[MBZ] Monovalve malfunction

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

If the monovalve insert is leaking, but I really want the AC on full, can I 
unplug the monovalve to stop the flow of hot water to the heater core, or do I 
need to clamp off the hose?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

98 has the newer engines. 99 had new much better radio and side curtain air 
bags. 00 or 01 is facelift models that have different trim tail lights and 
steering wheel controls

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed.  Newer = better for sure.  Thanks for pointing out the break between 
> 97 and 98.  Not a lot in the wiki or forums on BW about that.
> 
> The boy is busy catching up on school work and I have an HOA meeting in about 
> 30 minutes, but I’ll have a chat with him later tonight and see what he 
> thinks.  He certainly won’t look a gift horse in the mouth no matter what, 
> but I would prefer for him to have some input into what he drives, as he’ll 
> be more into it if he has some choice.
> 
> Otherwise I would put him in a Ford Focus until he’s out of college….
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try 
>> to get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das 
>> which is much more useful on a 210 than a 140
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.  Newer = better for sure.  Thanks for pointing out the break between 97 
and 98.  Not a lot in the wiki or forums on BW about that.

The boy is busy catching up on school work and I have an HOA meeting in about 
30 minutes, but I’ll have a chat with him later tonight and see what he thinks. 
 He certainly won’t look a gift horse in the mouth no matter what, but I would 
prefer for him to have some input into what he drives, as he’ll be more into it 
if he has some choice.

Otherwise I would put him in a Ford Focus until he’s out of college….



Dan



> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try 
> to get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das which 
> is much more useful on a 210 than a 140
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try to 
get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das which is 
much more useful on a 210 than a 140

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> We get about 26 with our e430
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

We get about 26 with our e430

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sold in one piece to be used as parts by somebody else as opposed to the 
massive and annoying job of selling parts off of a car and then being stuck 
with a rusting hulk.
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes 
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Cc: Craig  
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator
   
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:42:32 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig.Because it is easier to move around in my space limited driveway
> if it is more or less whole.Parting it out is not an option.Okay?

Here you say it's not going to be parted out, but earlier you said,


> This is for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.

So, I'm confused.




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh and the v8 will get about the same mileage as the v6

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s?  There are some pretty nice ones for 
> sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet:
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html
> 
> New Tampa = new money
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html
> 
> Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The 97 still had the 119. 98 up is 113 v8. The 6 cylinder 112 is identical just 
2 less holes

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s?  There are some pretty nice ones for 
> sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet:
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html
> 
> New Tampa = new money
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html
> 
> Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:42:32 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig.Because it is easier to move around in my space limited driveway
> if it is more or less whole.Parting it out is not an option.Okay?

Here you say it's not going to be parted out, but earlier you said,


> This is for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.

So, I'm confused.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage?

Dan


> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s?  There are some pretty nice ones for 
sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html

New Tampa = new money

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html

Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description.

Dan

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s an option.  Sticking with a W140 is best since everything I have 
> around here is mostly W140 stuff.  However, I was thinking about an E class, 
> which I mentioned in my original post.  Just don’t know a lot about them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would be looking at a 210
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, but it’s gone.  He’s not a diesel driver, either.  I wouldn’t put him 
>>> in one unless he was willing.
>>> 
>>> A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or
 something like that?
 
> To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any 
> money
> into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics
> probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get 
> him in
> something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's 
> commuting to
> school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.
 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Photos of the victims and their injuries:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/psuhragtdbv8e6b/AAA1mWR_7ulHa0AAgQDP9noUa?dl=0

I was able to extract the headlight assembly and straighten out the little 
portion of the radiator support that is forward of the oval opening in the 
support back to pretty much original position.  At this point I’ll source a 
replacement headlight to get him mobile and we’ll go from there.

If things had gone back another inch we would have lost AC and one or both of 
the ignition coils.  The boy is living right…

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 380 SL Diesel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Clutch is not hooked up!
Not driveable!
A/C ran ice cold last time I checked!

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> No engine pictures?
> How disappointing.
>
> I see what may be a set of what may be, 16inch wheels and tires, which
> would NOT be proper for that car.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Just spotted this one on the local craigslist.
> >
> > Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
> >
> >
> > http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5125549123.html
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s an option.  Sticking with a W140 is best since everything I have around 
here is mostly W140 stuff.  However, I was thinking about an E class, which I 
mentioned in my original post.  Just don’t know a lot about them.

Thanks,

Dan

 
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would be looking at a 210
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, but it’s gone.  He’s not a diesel driver, either.  I wouldn’t put him 
>> in one unless he was willing.
>> 
>> A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or
>>> something like that?
>>> 
 To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any 
 money
 into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics
 probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get 
 him in
 something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's 
 commuting to
 school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Would a slightly leaky 190D 2.2l radiator work for your limited needs? IIRC it 
only oozes a little. Perhaps a slight pinch with some pliers could stop that. 
The price is right anyway...
-Curt
  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Fred Moir  
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator
   
Craig.Because it is easier to move around in my space limited driveway if it is 
more or less whole.Parting it out is not an option.Okay?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.



> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:29:59 -0600
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: diese...@pisquared.net
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:26:38 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have one for sale or a lead on one?1987 MB 190D turbo.This is
> > for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.Low mileage and
> > rust, plus Bent.
> 
> Why do you want a replacement radiator when you are just going to part
> out the car?
> 
> 
>Craig
                         
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.Because it easier to move around in my space limiter driveway if it is 
more or less whole.Parting it out here is not an option.Okay?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:29:59 -0600
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: diese...@pisquared.net
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:26:38 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have one for sale or a lead on one?1987 MB 190D turbo.This is
> > for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.Low mileage and
> > rust, plus Bent.
> 
> Why do you want a replacement radiator when you are just going to part
> out the car?
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
  
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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.Because it is easier to move around in my space limited driveway if it is 
more or less whole.Parting it out is not an option.Okay?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:29:59 -0600
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: diese...@pisquared.net
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:26:38 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have one for sale or a lead on one?1987 MB 190D turbo.This is
> > for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.Low mileage and
> > rust, plus Bent.
> 
> Why do you want a replacement radiator when you are just going to part
> out the car?
> 
> 
>Craig
  
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I would be looking at a 210

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, but it’s gone.  He’s not a diesel driver, either.  I wouldn’t put him 
> in one unless he was willing.
> 
> A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or
>> something like that?
>> 
>>> To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any 
>>> money
>>> into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics
>>> probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him 
>>> in
>>> something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting 
>>> to
>>> school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, but it’s gone.  He’s not a diesel driver, either.  I wouldn’t put him in 
one unless he was willing.

A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them.

Thanks,

Dan

 
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or
> something like that?
> 
>> To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any 
>> money
>> into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics
>> probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him 
>> in
>> something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting 
>> to
>> school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thanks.  'Found one to verify it.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse



Google images is your friend, Wilton.

1987 300D fuse list 




Dan

On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:48 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and 
scorching as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to read: 
backup lamp, heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, heating system 
for washer jets, climate control system, relay aux fan term. 86, auto. 
trans. electrics, blower motor inside temp. sensor, air cond. compressor. 
(I filled in several obscured words with imagination and/or what I 
vaguely remember.  Can somebody please verify it for me?)


Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 380 SL Diesel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

No engine pictures?
How disappointing.

I see what may be a set of what may be, 16inch wheels and tires, which
would NOT be proper for that car.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just spotted this one on the local craigslist.
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
>
>
> http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5125549123.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, it’s not now that I look closer.  However, the folks at peachparts 
are - look at post #13 in this thread:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/general-information/242913-fuse-box-chart-what-fuse-goes-where.html

Dan


> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Google images is your friend, Wilton.
> 
> 1987 300D fuse list 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:48 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and scorching 
>> as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to read:  backup lamp, 
>> heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, heating system for washer jets, 
>> climate control system, relay aux fan term. 86, auto. trans. electrics, 
>> blower motor inside temp. sensor, air cond. compressor.  (I filled in 
>> several obscured words with imagination and/or what I vaguely remember.  Can 
>> somebody please verify it for me?)
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Google images is your friend, Wilton.

1987 300D fuse list 



Dan

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:48 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and scorching 
> as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to read:  backup lamp, 
> heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, heating system for washer jets, 
> climate control system, relay aux fan term. 86, auto. trans. electrics, 
> blower motor inside temp. sensor, air cond. compressor.  (I filled in several 
> obscured words with imagination and/or what I vaguely remember.  Can somebody 
> please verify it for me?)
> 
> Wilton
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:48:24 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and
> scorching as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to read:
> backup lamp, heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, heating
> system for washer jets, climate control system, relay aux fan term. 86,
> auto. trans. electrics, blower motor inside temp. sensor, air cond.
> compressor.  (I filled in several obscured words with imagination
> and/or what I vaguely remember.  Can somebody please verify it for me?)

I would like to, Wilton, but I don't have access to an '87 300D.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I removed the fuse placard and carefully cleaned away the soot and scorching 
as best I can.  I have deciphered the fuse #7 list to read:  backup lamp, 
heating water valve, water pump, engine fan, heating system for washer jets, 
climate control system, relay aux fan term. 86, auto. trans. electrics, 
blower motor inside temp. sensor, air cond. compressor.  (I filled in 
several obscured words with imagination and/or what I vaguely remember.  Can 
somebody please verify it for me?)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse


#7 fuse has blown couple more times.  The placard inside the fuse box 
cover is scorched, obscuring the list of systems in addition to compressor 
on that fuse, and I can't open the pdf file showing such as I have many 
times before.  Can somebody, please, send me a photo of the placard or the 
appropriate pdf showing those items on fuse #7 for '87 300D?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "mercedes list" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Blown fuse


SWMBO came in from short trip in the '87 300D, leaned over back of chair 
in cool living room where I was napping and announced, "Blown fuse in the 
car.  I was driving along with air conditioning blasting away nicely, and 
it just quit.  Don't ya think it's a blown fuse?"


I replied, "Yep; sure hope that's all it is."  'Hobbled out to car 
thinking 30 amp blower fuse had blown.  Loosened the two mounting screws 
thinking the fuse would fall apart as I removed it, but it did not. 
Checked fuses in fuse box; 'found #7 (for compressor and coupla other 
things) blown.  Because of my shaky hands, called SWMBO to help me put 
blower fuse back in place and R&R #7.  A/C blowing ice cold again.


BTW, I did NOT change ALL the fuses.  ;<)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or
something like that?

> To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money
> into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics
> probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in
> something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to
> school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.
> 

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[MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 380 SL Diesel

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Just spotted this one on the local craigslist.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon


http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5125549123.html


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Hood Release will not work

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

NO! Mohamed I said the bl

--R

On 7/16/15 2:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Uh oh

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Jim Cathey 
wrote:


Worse case scenario is you find out after the fact that a replacement

grille insert is NLA.  LOL


I worded my instructions _very_ carefully!

"Cut the green wire.

After cutting the red wire."

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

LKQ was the first call I made this morning.  If they don’t have it, tough 
beans, they won’t help you get it (like they do for professional body shops.)

They don’t have it.

The coupe is different than the sedan in front, or so I’m finding out.  With 
that in mind, I would say this car’s fate has probably been decided.  Very, 
very little in the way of coupe parts in circulation right now, so I’m finding.

Dan


> On Jul 16, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What about the nearest junk yards?  Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What about the nearest junk yards?  Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Florida = no fault state. Insurance companies settle up with the insured,
> then go after the other driver if they think they can recover.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male.
> Nice!
> >
> >
> >> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
> >>
> >> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still
> ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper
> smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is
> definitely drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
> >>
> >> Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.
> >>
> >> Poop.
> >>
> >> So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage
> title:
> >>
> >> 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure
> about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find
> anything and how much it would be.
> >>
> >> 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and
> let him drive it like that.
> >>
> >> 3.) Retire the car and find something else.
> >>
> >> So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that
> sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?
> >>
> >> #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has
> wheels.
> >>
> >> I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something
> as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.
> >>
> >> Dang it.
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Hood Release will not work

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Uh oh

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> Worse case scenario is you find out after the fact that a replacement
>> grille insert is NLA.  LOL
>>
>
> I worded my instructions _very_ carefully!
>
> "Cut the green wire.
>
> After cutting the red wire."
>
> -- Jim
>
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[MBZ] OT Energy Positive House built in Wales for not much $$!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/15/britains-first-energy-positive-house-opens-in-wales?utm_source=EnergyGuardian_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13999
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Re: [MBZ] For Andrew comments

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes, but not a seismologist.

Not sure of the timing (that's the $64,000  question) but I don't disagree
that there will be a HUGE earthwuake in the Pacificic NW.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Aren't you the geologist here?
> Do you know about the Cascadia subduction zone?
> Perhaps Mt St Helens is part of this subduction zone?
>
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one?intcid=mod-most-popularWell-written
>
> It seemed to be an interesting article...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Blown fuse

[WILTON via Mercedes]

#7 fuse has blown couple more times.  The placard inside the fuse box cover 
is scorched, obscuring the list of systems in addition to compressor on that 
fuse, and I can't open the pdf file showing such as I have many times 
before.  Can somebody, please, send me a photo of the placard or the 
appropriate pdf showing those items on fuse #7 for '87 300D?


Wilton

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To: "mercedes list" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Blown fuse


SWMBO came in from short trip in the '87 300D, leaned over back of chair 
in cool living room where I was napping and announced, "Blown fuse in the 
car.  I was driving along with air conditioning blasting away nicely, and 
it just quit.  Don't ya think it's a blown fuse?"


I replied, "Yep; sure hope that's all it is."  'Hobbled out to car 
thinking 30 amp blower fuse had blown.  Loosened the two mounting screws 
thinking the fuse would fall apart as I removed it, but it did not. 
Checked fuses in fuse box; 'found #7 (for compressor and coupla other 
things) blown.  Because of my shaky hands, called SWMBO to help me put 
blower fuse back in place and R&R #7.  A/C blowing ice cold again.


BTW, I did NOT change ALL the fuses.  ;<)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Florida = no fault state. Insurance companies settle up with the insured, then 
go after the other driver if they think they can recover.

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male.  Nice!
> 
> 
>> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
>> 
>> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended 
>> up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
>> headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
>> drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
>> 
>> Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.
>> 
>> Poop.
>> 
>> So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage 
>> title:
>> 
>> 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about 
>> hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find 
>> anything and how much it would be.
>> 
>> 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let 
>> him drive it like that.
>> 
>> 3.) Retire the car and find something else.
>> 
>> So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that 
>> sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?
>> 
>> #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.
>> 
>> I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big 
>> as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male.  Nice!



Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.

Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still 
ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep 
bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage 
and car is definitely drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, 
guys.


Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.

Poop.

So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title:

1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure 
about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they 
can find anything and how much it would be.


2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator 
and let him drive it like that.


3.) Retire the car and find something else.

So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of 
that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?


#2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.

I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that 
something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to 
be shipped.


Dang it.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:26:38 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Anyone have one for sale or a lead on one?1987 MB 190D turbo.This is
> for my olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.Low mileage and
> rust, plus Bent.

Why do you want a replacement radiator when you are just going to part
out the car?


Craig

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[MBZ] FW: mercedes benz 300D turbo diesel

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Engine failure. The mind boggles.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would have to check, but I think everything ahead of the A pillar is the same 
between the coupe and sedan. I'll be looking into that this afternoon.

Thanks,

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Shipping would be costly and I am not really setup to do large shipping 
> anymore. Is this the coupe you are talking about? If so I don't have the 
> parts I don't think. I have sedan parts.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How much for them plus shipping to 33596?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I live in Tampa, but it's still a haul, roughly 1300 miles according to the 
Google.  Agree with the other points. I'm not interested in a road trip unless 
it's for a replacement, and a darned good one at that.

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Google says Miami to Tulsa is 1445 miles so round trip is pretty close to 
> 3000 miles.
> At 20 mpg, that is about 150 gallons of fuel.
> I don't know about you, but I am getting to the stage in my life where I have 
> no plans to drive a thousand miles a day so it would take some days.
> Even with 2 or 3 drivers it would take a lot of time.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
>> On 16/07/2015 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in.  The cost for 
>> fuel, and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do 
>> appreciate the suggestion.
>> 
>> If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at 
>> work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't 
>> sacrifice the time.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OR - road trip!
>>> How far from FL to OK?
>>> Is the car drivable?
>>> Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 How much for them plus shipping to 33596?
 
 Dan
 
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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Shipping would be costly and I am not really setup to do large shipping 
anymore. Is this the coupe you are talking about? If so I don't have the parts 
I don't think. I have sedan parts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How much for them plus shipping to 33596?
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Google says Miami to Tulsa is 1445 miles so round trip is pretty close 
to 3000 miles.

At 20 mpg, that is about 150 gallons of fuel.
I don't know about you, but I am getting to the stage in my life where I 
have no plans to drive a thousand miles a day so it would take some days.

Even with 2 or 3 drivers it would take a lot of time.

RB


On 16/07/2015 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in.  The cost for fuel, 
and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do appreciate 
the suggestion.

If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at 
work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't 
sacrifice the time.

Dan

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On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

OR - road trip!
How far from FL to OK?
Is the car drivable?
Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home.

RB


On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
How much for them plus shipping to 33596?

Dan

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On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in.  The cost for fuel, 
and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do appreciate 
the suggestion.

If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at 
work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't 
sacrifice the time.

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OR - road trip!
> How far from FL to OK?
> Is the car drivable?
> Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> How much for them plus shipping to 33596?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OMG -- Mercedes 283S

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/07/2015 10:44 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Rich wrote:

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5122180558.html

fmiser wrote:

A 250S (W108?)  with a small block Chevy - is a rat
rod??!!?



Randy wrote:

that is what a rat rod is. usually, just junk cobbled
together - no paint etc.

Yeah.  Junk like stuff cobbled together is a rat rod.  The
complete body, including hood and roof, of one car with a
not-so-very-uncommon engine swap does not seem to fit the
definition.

The hood and front fenders from the 240S attached to a F-250
pickup frame and a chevy small block - that could be a rat rod.

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I have seen them both ways.
Usually, semi gloss or satin black paint, or no paint.
Some are really odd combinations and some are fairly complete original 
cars just painted black and somewhat junkyard looking.
Others have had a whole lot of careful work done to make them look like 
they are junk when they really are not.


I have some photos of an MB that was offered for sale here that is sort 
of a rat rod. I will try to remember to post them here.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

OR - road trip!
How far from FL to OK?
Is the car drivable?
Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home.

RB

On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

How much for them plus shipping to 33596?

Dan

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Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, it's a W140 coupe (1995).

Thanks,

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:19 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Double ouch!  'Glad nobody hurt.
> Remind me - is that a 140?
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> To: "Mercedes List" ; "Banned List" 
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> Subject: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
> 
> 
>> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
>> 
>> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended 
>> up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
>> headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
>> drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
>> 
>> Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.
>> 
>> Poop.
>> 
>> So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage 
>> title:
>> 
>> 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about 
>> hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find 
>> anything and how much it would be.
>> 
>> 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let 
>> him drive it like that.
>> 
>> 3.) Retire the car and find something else.
>> 
>> So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that 
>> sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?
>> 
>> #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.
>> 
>> I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big 
>> as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How much for them plus shipping to 33596?

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
> 
> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up 
> hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
> headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
> drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
> 
> Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.
> 
> Poop.
> 
> So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title:
> 
> 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood 
> and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and 
> how much it would be.
> 
> 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him 
> drive it like that.
> 
> 3.) Retire the car and find something else.
> 
> So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? 
> How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?
> 
> #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.
> 
> I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big 
> as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.
> 
> Dang it.
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] B2

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Hominy did shoulda seen that in 1979 had jimmay cahtah had one ball

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[MBZ] 190Dt radiator

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Anyone have one for sale or a lead on one?1987 MB 190D turbo.This is for my 
olde Bent 190D, so that It can be sold for paatz.Low mileage and rust, plus 
Bent.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Please do. You've done well by me once, maybe you can make it two times...

Thank you!

To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money 
into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics 
probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in 
something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to 
school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class.

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a silverish 140 for sale up the road, was put out at the end of a 
> guy's driveway a coupla days ago.  It looks pretty nice on a drive-by.  I 
> think it is the same guy who had a white one a coupla years ago for sale.  I 
> have driven by but have not looked at it.  I could do that, see what it is 
> like, how much he wants for it.  He might be a flipper or something, I don't 
> know but i can look if you want.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/16/15 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
>> 
>> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended 
>> up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
>> headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
>> drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
>> 
>> Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.
>> 
>> Poop.
>> 
>> So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage 
>> title:
>> 
>> 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about 
>> hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find 
>> anything and how much it would be.
>> 
>> 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let 
>> him drive it like that.
>> 
>> 3.) Retire the car and find something else.
>> 
>> So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that 
>> sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?
>> 
>> #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.
>> 
>> I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big 
>> as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Doesn't matter. Florida is a no-fault state, and he hit them in the rear, which 
effectively makes him responsible.

Dan

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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:46:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
>> 
>> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still
>> ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep
>> bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and
>> car is definitely drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.
> 
> What does the Jeep owner's insurance company say?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Double ouch!  'Glad nobody hurt.
Remind me - is that a 140?

Wilton

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Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
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Subject: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies



Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.

Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended 
up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.


Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.

Poop.

So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage 
title:


1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about 
hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find 
anything and how much it would be.


2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let 
him drive it like that.


3.) Retire the car and find something else.

So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that 
sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?


#2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.

I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as 
big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.


Dang it.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There is a silverish 140 for sale up the road, was put out at the end of 
a guy's driveway a coupla days ago.  It looks pretty nice on a 
drive-by.  I think it is the same guy who had a white one a coupla years 
ago for sale.  I have driven by but have not looked at it.  I could do 
that, see what it is like, how much he wants for it.  He might be a 
flipper or something, I don't know but i can look if you want.


--R



On 7/16/15 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.

Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up 
hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.

Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.

Poop.

So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title:

1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood 
and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and 
how much it would be.

2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him 
drive it like that.

3.) Retire the car and find something else.

So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? 
How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?

#2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.

I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as 
a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.

Dang it.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:46:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.
> 
> Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still
> ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep
> bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and
> car is definitely drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.

What does the Jeep owner's insurance company say?


Craig

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[MBZ] S500 Ouchies

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour.

Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up 
hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed 
headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely 
drivable.  That's why we drive these cars, guys.

Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed.

Poop.

So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title:

1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood 
and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and 
how much it would be.

2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him 
drive it like that.

3.) Retire the car and find something else.

So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? 
How's about a W140 that someone is parting out?

#2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels.

I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as 
a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped.

Dang it.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] B2

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Ayatollah Hominy would need a new set of trousers if he saw that thing

--R



On 7/16/15 1:58 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

WILTON wrote:

It's supposedly so stealthy, I surprised you saw it.   ;<)

Heh.  I was using ears and eyes - not radar.  And since I
could recognize the silhouette it wasn't nearly as high as it
could be.  Bright blue sky with a black zig-zag on it.

I probably was only able to see it because they weren't
trying to hide. *smiles*


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