Re: [MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > Andrew wrote:


 Average car age hits record high of 11.5 years



 The average length of ownership for a new vehicle is now
 almost 6.5 years, and five years for a used vehicle.


Hmm.  I guess I own mine longer than average.  I don't think
anyone who knows me would be surprised.


 Cars and trucks also now have the same average age,


I wonder what definition of "truck" the author is using.
Probably means "pickup" - but who knows.


 people held on to their cars during the recession.


Yeah!  That's why I didn't buy a new S class!   That dang
recession!  Hah!



wah Yes!  Is there any other kinda truck other than a peecup?  Is a 
superoo brat a peecup?


Yes, I's assume they mean pickups, as medium trucks tend to live more 
than 11.5 years.  Heavy trucks?  Maybe not in this country or yurp. 
too many changing regulations to keep heavy trucks long.


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Re: [MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Andrew wrote:
> 
> Average car age hits record high of 11.5 years

> The average length of ownership for a new vehicle is now
> almost 6.5 years, and five years for a used vehicle.

Hmm.  I guess I own mine longer than average.  I don't think
anyone who knows me would be surprised.

> Cars and trucks also now have the same average age,

I wonder what definition of "truck" the author is using.
Probably means "pickup" - but who knows.

> people held on to their cars during the recession.

Yeah!  That's why I didn't buy a new S class!   That dang
recession!  Hah!

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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

According to what I've read, there is a city prohibition, but he was charged
under a different state law.  Interesting to see how this plays out.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-ho
vering-over-his-backyard/

Being that its Kentucky I'm surprised they arrested him. Maybe theres a law
against discharging a firearm within city limits?
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Pretty funny i think. A harbinger of things  to come?
On Jul 29, 2015 5:03 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

>
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/
>
> Being that its Kentucky I'm surprised they arrested him. Maybe theres a
> law against discharging a firearm within city limits?
> -Curt
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[MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/

Being that its Kentucky I'm surprised they arrested him. Maybe theres a law 
against discharging a firearm within city limits?
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Windows 7 Questions

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 15:08:05 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2015 2:26 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Now I just need to how to activate my installation of Win7.
>
> Windows will try to activate over the internet with the key you gave for
> install, if it wasn't installed on that machine before.  

I knew our laptop would be booted on Windows only little, so I told it
during installation that I would do it manually later.


> You should not have to enable any special services.

Good.


> If you open properties on "my computer" it will say whether the system
> is activated.  I don't think there's a persistent affirmative message.

I did open the properties of "computer" and found a message that it
wasn't activated, but there was also a link to activate it. I clicked on
the link and it asked if I wanted to activate it on-line now or later, I
clicked "now" and it started the process. About 15 seconds later, it said
the system was activated and was genuine Windows.

Thanks for the help!


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] okie****?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Apologies for the salty term, this was supposed to go to the site mom, 
or one of them, but mom apparently used the main email address.


All seems to be working now.

--R


On 7/29/15 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

Sent some mails this morning, none have gone through

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Windows 7 Questions

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Jul 29, 2015 2:26 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Now I just need to how to activate my installation of Win7.

Windows will try to activate over the internet with the key you gave for
install, if it wasn't installed on that machine before.  If the activation
fails, you'll get a message in the system tray, but only after you have
connected to the internet at least once (i.e. your NIC works).  I'm not
sure what happens after the activation timer expires (30 days or whatever
it is now).  You should not have to enable any special services.

If you open properties on "my computer" it will say whether the system is
activated.  I don't think there's a persistent affirmative message.

You might be able to force activation by running Windows Update and
installing the Malware Detection application.  I usually just wait it out.

If you are only offline, I think you will eventually get the same icon in
the system tray, and it will present a dialog box with information on how
you can call in to get an activation key.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I knew you could turn this into a political Teachable Moment!

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Average car age hits record high of 11.5 yearsPublished: Wednesday, July
>> 29, 2015
>>
>> The average age of U.S. vehicles on the road has reached a record 11.5
>> years, due to both the reliability of modern autos and the lingering
>> effects of the recession.
>>
>> The average age of vehicles has been climbing steadily since the
>> consulting
>> firm IHS Automotive began tracking the number in 2002. The average length
>> of ownership for a new vehicle is now almost 6.5 years, and five years for
>> a used vehicle.
>>
>> Cars and trucks also now have the same average age, reflecting the
>> increased quality of the former. A reliable car can now go 200,000 miles
>> or
>> more, which would last many consumers a decade, said Doug Love, a
>> spokesman
>> for *Consumer Reports*.
>>
>> The average age appears to be plateauing, though, as buyers have returned
>> to the car market in bigger numbers. Sales of new cars rose from 12.7
>> million in 2011 to 16.5 million last year, and they are expected to exceed
>> 17 million this year. IHS predicts the average vehicle age will hit 11.6
>> years in 2016 but won't climb to 11.7 years until 2018.
>>
>> This is a more normal rate of age increase, according to IHS. Vehicle age
>> increased rapidly between 2008 and 2013 as more people held on to their
>> cars during the recession. In 2008, the average age of cars was 10 years;
>> by 2013, it had reached 11.4 years (AP/New Orleans*Times-Picayune*
>> <
>> http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2015/07/average_age_vehicle_us_road.html
>> >,
>> July 29). *-- BTP*
>> 
>>
>
> Just one more measured effect of the gooberment theft of billions of
> dollars at gunpoint from citizens by the lernis Loiner crew!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Average car age hits record high of 11.5 yearsPublished: Wednesday, July
29, 2015

The average age of U.S. vehicles on the road has reached a record 11.5
years, due to both the reliability of modern autos and the lingering
effects of the recession.

The average age of vehicles has been climbing steadily since the consulting
firm IHS Automotive began tracking the number in 2002. The average length
of ownership for a new vehicle is now almost 6.5 years, and five years for
a used vehicle.

Cars and trucks also now have the same average age, reflecting the
increased quality of the former. A reliable car can now go 200,000 miles or
more, which would last many consumers a decade, said Doug Love, a spokesman
for *Consumer Reports*.

The average age appears to be plateauing, though, as buyers have returned
to the car market in bigger numbers. Sales of new cars rose from 12.7
million in 2011 to 16.5 million last year, and they are expected to exceed
17 million this year. IHS predicts the average vehicle age will hit 11.6
years in 2016 but won't climb to 11.7 years until 2018.

This is a more normal rate of age increase, according to IHS. Vehicle age
increased rapidly between 2008 and 2013 as more people held on to their
cars during the recession. In 2008, the average age of cars was 10 years;
by 2013, it had reached 11.4 years (AP/New Orleans*Times-Picayune*
,
July 29). *-- BTP*



Just one more measured effect of the gooberment theft of billions of 
dollars at gunpoint from citizens by the lernis Loiner crew!


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[MBZ] Average car age reaches record high

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Average car age hits record high of 11.5 yearsPublished: Wednesday, July
29, 2015

The average age of U.S. vehicles on the road has reached a record 11.5
years, due to both the reliability of modern autos and the lingering
effects of the recession.

The average age of vehicles has been climbing steadily since the consulting
firm IHS Automotive began tracking the number in 2002. The average length
of ownership for a new vehicle is now almost 6.5 years, and five years for
a used vehicle.

Cars and trucks also now have the same average age, reflecting the
increased quality of the former. A reliable car can now go 200,000 miles or
more, which would last many consumers a decade, said Doug Love, a spokesman
for *Consumer Reports*.

The average age appears to be plateauing, though, as buyers have returned
to the car market in bigger numbers. Sales of new cars rose from 12.7
million in 2011 to 16.5 million last year, and they are expected to exceed
17 million this year. IHS predicts the average vehicle age will hit 11.6
years in 2016 but won't climb to 11.7 years until 2018.

This is a more normal rate of age increase, according to IHS. Vehicle age
increased rapidly between 2008 and 2013 as more people held on to their
cars during the recession. In 2008, the average age of cars was 10 years;
by 2013, it had reached 11.4 years (AP/New Orleans*Times-Picayune*
,
July 29). *-- BTP*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Windows 7 Questions

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 14:27:09 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > From my experience, Win7 is ornery about booting so I'm
> > reluctant to advise "Just try it".  But the "root" command
> > looks correct for legacy GRUB.  

Well, I did, "Just try it," and it worked. I performed the following
steps:

1. Boot SystemRescue CD.
2. Execute "startx"
3. At a terminal prompt, type, "grub ".
4. Type, "root (hd0,2)".
5. Type, "setup (hd0)".
6. Type, "quit".
7. Reboot.


> Kinda redundant to "startx" from a terminal just to open an
> xterm, isn't it?  *smiles*

Well, if one wants to run Gparted to make sure things are OK, it's quite
necessary ...


Now I just need to how to activate my installation of Win7.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Next Klebmobile

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Well, in some respects, might 'spect it to be in better condition than my 
29-year-old one.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next Klebmobile



19 year old car with about 200K miles on it.
What would you expect?

RB

On 29/07/2015 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder what "mechanically in good shape" means.  Lukewarm AC?  Driver's
window inoperative?  Tires with 1 mm of good tread left?  "Service 
engine"

light won't extinguish but nothing serious?.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Kaleb,

Since you missed out on that one near you, here's another you might want
to check out:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2419841-fs-1997-s600-black-black-rear.html#post12598201

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Next Klebmobile

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would expect disclosure of all flaws, rather than a meaningless assertion
that it's in "good mechanical condition".

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 19 year old car with about 200K miles on it.
> What would you expect?
>
> RB
>
>
> On 29/07/2015 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I wonder what "mechanically in good shape" means.  Lukewarm AC?  Driver's
>> window inoperative?  Tires with 1 mm of good tread left?  "Service engine"
>> light won't extinguish but nothing serious?.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Kaleb,
>>>
>>> Since you missed out on that one near you, here's another you might want
>>> to check out:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2419841-fs-1997-s600-black-black-rear.html#post12598201
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Next Klebmobile

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

19 year old car with about 200K miles on it.
What would you expect?

RB

On 29/07/2015 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder what "mechanically in good shape" means.  Lukewarm AC?  Driver's
window inoperative?  Tires with 1 mm of good tread left?  "Service engine"
light won't extinguish but nothing serious?.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Kaleb,

Since you missed out on that one near you, here's another you might want
to check out:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2419841-fs-1997-s600-black-black-rear.html#post12598201

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Next Klebmobile

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder what "mechanically in good shape" means.  Lukewarm AC?  Driver's
window inoperative?  Tires with 1 mm of good tread left?  "Service engine"
light won't extinguish but nothing serious?.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb,
>
> Since you missed out on that one near you, here's another you might want
> to check out:
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2419841-fs-1997-s600-black-black-rear.html#post12598201
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Will it go rancid?

RB

On 28/07/2015 7:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Try mixing acetone with vegetable oil. Acetone has both polar (water soluble) 
and non-polar characteristics IIRC, but it's basically polar. Mineral oil is 
non-polar. Vegetable oil is polar or partly polar IIRC. Therefore, vegetable 
oil should more easily mix with vegetable oil than mineral oil.

Note about WD-40:
I have about a half gallon of liquid WD-40 left. In my experience it doesn't 
work as well as WD-40 in pressurized cans. This is why I use WD-40 or Blaster 
in pressure cans. Does the pressurizing agent let the WD-40 more easily 
penetrate corrosion?
  Liquid WD-40 is good for soaking small parts that can be immersed in it.
Gerry
.

My experience with the ATF and Acetone is that they separate out. It
was difficult to keep them mixed together.
Is that common or was there some issue with my ingredients?

RB

You probably didn't use the politically correct form of transgender
oil.  Either that or the transgender who sold you the acetone thought
you said acid toning, and gave you some bad stuff.  Likely you
neglected to CHANGE DER FUSES!

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[MBZ] Next Klebmobile

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Since you missed out on that one near you, here's another you might want to 
check out:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2419841-fs-1997-s600-black-black-rear.html#post12598201

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] okiefukced?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Including this one.  You better have your system checked.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sent some mails this morning, none have gone through
>
> --R
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[MBZ] okiefukced?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Sent some mails this morning, none have gone through

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Today's BATsh*t Crazy Car

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/2015/07/28/custom-cabrio-nightmare-project-1968-mercedes-benz-600s/

Wow.

Sent from my MBPad


John Green needs the 600!  It has the upside down backwards OZ 
steering wheel already.


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[MBZ] OT I'm pretty sure it would be easy to kill yourself with this thing

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

At least 2 or 3 different ways

http://makezine.com/2015/07/29/making-the-switch

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Today's BATsh*t Crazy Car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Can Kleb drive his dizzel pickup and trailer there?  $500 is like 65k 
yen these days


--R



On 7/29/15 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://bringatrailer.com/2015/07/28/custom-cabrio-nightmare-project-1968-mercedes-benz-600s/

Wow.

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[MBZ] Today's BATsh*t Crazy Car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/2015/07/28/custom-cabrio-nightmare-project-1968-mercedes-benz-600s/

Wow.

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