Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations. > clay wrote: > > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge > base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a l

Re: [MBZ] Maybe we could help

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The best (and possibly cheapest) way to boost to a NA617 is to remove the old engine and transmission and replace with a factory turbo engine and transmission from a recycler. Just adding boost won't do anything unless a turbo injection pump is added too. But then a boost signal would be neede

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It would be east to make the case that "higher education" with government monopoly student loans is an effective way to enslave younger generations. > clay wrote: > > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge > base in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a l

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
1987, Stanford, PhD in Electrical Engineering. > -Original Message- > 1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university > campus? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [MBZ] Maybe we could help

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Different block... Craig via Mercedes wrote on 6/28/19 10:22 PM: On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:49:06 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I think this is for real or maybe goofing? 123 FB group: When turbocharging a 78 OM617, what else do I need to do prep the block for the boost? Ummm ... d

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
We spent 20+ years there the last time.  Corruption is rampant. Clay is right.  Mike Rowe is right.  Rick is right.   College is gummit sponsored robbery for most kids.  Hard sciences, medicos, Industrial Technology and similar, and engineering, yes.  Pretty much everything else is a waste. D

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
THere, I fixed it Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 6/28/19 2:50 PM: They changed to the later crank style jack 6 years earlier, so that’s the option if I can’t find a ratchet handle... -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
THat is a 190Dc jack.  not a 220Sb jack.  It is NOT authentic for that car. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 6/28/19 2:13 PM: ___ Maybe, but that is not authentic and Dan is a bit of a stickler that way. ___ http:

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yeah, we've mostly had electric. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 6/28/19 10:24 AM: Is she used to using an electric stove? Most people prefer gas if they have it for a while. Heats faster and has more infinite control. We do not have a gas stove but have considered getting one. On 28/06/2

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
unless it is yuro, that is the wrong jack.  The 62 220Sb came with a crank type jack.  AFIK, all MBNA 220Sbs came with the crank jack.   I scrounged crank jacks for my 190Dc and through out the thread and rachet jack.  I could probably part with a crank jack, but I find them useful. Dan--- via

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That has not been my experience.   THe 43 yo water heater has crapped out a TC every 21 or 22 years.  the electronic ign crapped out once in under a year, and again in another 8-10 years. Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 6/28/19 8:50 AM: Water heaters are about the last remaining place where

Re: [MBZ] Why?

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Roosa Master filter was great in the 70s/80s.  Clear, so you can see if you got bugs or crud or water.  New filters available all over the country at any FLAPS or JD stealer and more places.  Now it would be standyne something or other. Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote on 6/27/19 2:57 PM: Max

Re: [MBZ] Maybe we could help

2019-06-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:49:06 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I think this is for real or maybe goofing? > 123 FB group: > When turbocharging a 78 OM617, what else do I need to do prep the block > for the boost? Ummm ... different pistons, different head, oilers for cooling the unde

Re: [MBZ] Maybe we could help

2019-06-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Pack the engine compartment with 1 lb. bricks of Tannerite, so when you finally exceed the ultimate boost limit and the engine grenades, it will really be "dramatic"... ? Be sure and video every run... On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 7:49 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Brake pad supplier

2019-06-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Did you search on the Akebono website? I remember that getting the pads for a 124 for the front were easy, but finding the rear pads was tough. Consider other (less expensive) pads on Rock Auto. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On June 28, 2019 10:44:30 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >I have

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Green 1979 Manny 300D NA with crank windows

2019-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Up id down and down is up. Crank windows are a selling point. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:45 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Nice > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Kevin in

[MBZ] 39k miles SL C gets a lot of attention

2019-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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[MBZ] Maybe we could help

2019-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I think this is for real or maybe goofing? 123 FB group: When turbocharging a 78 OM617, what else do I need to do prep the block for the boost? --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsub

[MBZ] Brake pad supplier

2019-06-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
I have been using my private stock of PBR Deluxe brake pads. But I'm running out!! So if I want a no-dust pad for my 123s, what are some good choices? I looked for Akebono - EUR31 seem to fit the rear (001-420-0620). But I can't find any for the front! (001-420-7820) https://www.eeuroparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] SL600 wiring harnesses

2019-06-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Attaboy Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 9:59 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I went with my friend to look at a coupla cars. At this one lot I get > talking to the sales guy, a retired Marine colonel he says. Maybe who > knows. Anyway he

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
1 question- when was,the last time you were,on a,college or university campus? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 8:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Higher education is being wasted on making and keeping the unemployable > illiterati population exp

[MBZ] SL600 wiring harnesses

2019-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
So I went with my friend to look at a coupla cars. At this one lot I get talking to the sales guy, a retired Marine colonel he says. Maybe who knows. Anyway he says he used to to be a used Benz dealer, had 2 or 3 lots of different cars but the one was specialized only Benzes. He was now working

Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook

2019-06-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote: > Higher education is being wasted ... They do not expand on the knowledge base > in any appreciable manner. Just seem to build a larger class of > indoctrination spewers who pollute the minds of people who could be making > their nations great once more, or still. > That is unfoun

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We have an old double oven Maytag with a smooth surface electric stove top that works great, but SWMBO wants an induction stove top, so we might be shopping some day. We also have a propane range in the outdoor kitchen, beside the wood fired clay oven/smoker - but the mice decided to eat the wiring

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Curt wrote: > When our current electric stove quits I'm getting an antique gas stove. We had an antique stove - Chambers cast iron oven - turn it on at highest setting for 20-minutes, turn it off, the roast sits for hours and comes out tender as desired. Maybe it is not antique, but it was nice.

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Green 1979 Manny 300D NA with crank windows

2019-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nice Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/cto/d/hood-river-1979-mercedes-300d-manual-no/6921848675.html > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
We have a Maytag range like that. It has the small 1 rack over in the top but it’s not convection. The full size oven in the bottom is convection. We have not had any problems with it so far, knock on wood. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > >

[MBZ] Kaleb Green 1979 Manny 300D NA with crank windows

2019-06-28 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/cto/d/hood-river-1979-mercedes-300d-manual-no/6921848675.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Generally the deck is bigger. The whole thing is bigger. They use more gas. They have more to go wrong. A big ZTR mower probably makes sense if you cut grass for a living. I know people who are making *payments* on a Dixie Chopper that they use once a week. Senseless. Allan fmiser via Mercedes w

Re: [MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> OK wrote: > In talking to mower repair people and owners, I've been told > that the ZTR mowers will cut your mowing time in half due to the > agility, I have heard that too. I call "false". For that to be true, one half of my time on the mower would have to be spent NOT cutting. Or maybe the

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I think our first induction cooktop was a GE, current one is a Maytag. The GEs worked great, the Maytag cooktop works great but the double convection oven it’s a part of has some quirks that have never been resolved. It has a small upper oven with one rack, which is great for small or single it

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan--- wrote: > Two words: Induction cooktop. Two words: glass pans. I _like_ my propane stovetop. And locally stored energy source. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan--- wrote: > It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy > it in order to get it open. This is a German tool made in the > 1960s. Cut it open, weld it shut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
They changed to the later crank style jack a year or two later, so that’s the option if I can’t find a ratchet handle... -D > On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 14:13:21 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >>> On 28/06/2019 12:18 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 14:13:21 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > On 28/06/2019 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:57:02 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy it in > >> order to get it open.

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 28/06/2019 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:57:02 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy it in order to get it open. This is a German tool made in the 1960s. I remember having one with our '64 190Dc. Interes

Re: [MBZ] OT gas ranges

2019-06-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
And, I suspect you won't care if you need to light the burners yourself. When I was a child, we had a gas range. There was a pilot light but the burners did not always light so we used matches. Never a big problem. And, in regard to the earlier post, I believe one is supposed to use a double b

Re: [MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That ML would be a real pain to use to mow around things - turning radius is too large. In talking to mower repair people and owners, I've been told that the ZTR mowers will cut your mowing time in half due to the agility, and that they will do a good job at full speed, where as the MTD front engin

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Our Whirlpool Gold induction cooktop was a lot of trouble at first, requiring numerous service calls and several episodes of broken cooktop - waiting a week or two for parts - find a different way to cook until fixed. All parts and labor were covered under warranty, and at this point every signal

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Would electronic ignition be cheaper than a new water heater? - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:41 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > An electronic ignition COULD be added to the current water heater, but > that is NOT cheap. > > > _

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Exactly. Not a concern for me. -D > On Jun 28, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > And when the power is out unless you've got a great big generator you're > down... > > When our current electric stove quits I'm getting an antique gas stove. I > don't want it to plug into electricity a

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:57:02 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy it in > order to get it open. This is a German tool made in the 1960s. I remember having one with our '64 190Dc. Interesting tool! Could you adapt a 3/8" or 1/2" rachet

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
And when the power is out unless you've got a great big generator you're down... When our current electric stove quits I'm getting an antique gas stove. I don't want it to plug into electricity at all, if I need a timer I'll crank one. I want a stove just like the one I've got at camp but bigge

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Oh, come on Dan, we have faith in you. If you have any questions on how to do it, ask Jim C. On 28/06/2019 11:57 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy it in order to get it open. This is a German tool made in the 1960s. -D On Jun 28,

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Two words: Induction cooktop. We’ve had one for years, and they heat as quickly as gas and are just as adjustable as far as temperature. -D > On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think a lot of people are irrationally afraid of gas stoves, that they'll > "s

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
It’s crimped shut or I would. I would probably have to destroy it in order to get it open. This is a German tool made in the 1960s. -D > On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 28/06/2019 10:04 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> Looking for a working Wahler ra

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think a lot of people are irrationally afraid of gas stoves, that they'll "start a fire" or something. The worst kitchen accident I've personally witnessed was caused when one of Angie's friends was melting beeswax on an electric stove, this was the old type circular burner stove. She dripped

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Is she used to using an electric stove? Most people prefer gas if they have it for a while. Heats faster and has more infinite control. We do not have a gas stove but have considered getting one. On 28/06/2019 8:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Craig, and everyone else: Thanks for the

Re: [MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 28/06/2019 10:04 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Looking for a working Wahler ratcheting jack handle for the jack on my 1965 220SEb. I’ve got mine, but the ratchet function no longer works, so for all intents and purposes it’s worthless. Doesn’t have to be pretty, just functional. Thanks,

[MBZ] Wanted - Wahler Ratcheting Jack Handle

2019-06-28 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Looking for a working Wahler ratcheting jack handle for the jack on my 1965 220SEb. I’ve got mine, but the ratchet function no longer works, so for all intents and purposes it’s worthless. Doesn’t have to be pretty, just functional. Thanks, Dan ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The heat from the pilot flame ends up in the water, so there's absolutely no > cost to it, In our old camper I never even turned the water heater off the pilot-only setting. Get to our destination, light the pilot, and by morning the tank is hot enough. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Reel mowers won't deal with sticks or heavy grass. I tried them for hand mowing in spots that getting the mower into was difficult and found the results unsatisfactory. If you've got a groomed lawn of real grass its probably okay but heavy crabgrass plugs 'em up quick. The ATV mowers only make

Re: [MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
When I was a kid, I wanted to get a five or seven reel gang mower and tow it behind a go-kart. These days, if you have a lot of very smooth acreage to mow, and some kind of ATV, a gang of wheel driven reels makes sense compared to buying an expensive riding mower. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Water heaters are about the last remaining place where standing pilots make sense. The heat from the pilot flame ends up in the water, so there's absolutely no cost to it, aside from periodic thermocouple replacements. (flame sensors in electric ignition appliances last much longer than therm

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I always place water hotters where a leak just goes down the drain. That is > a common practice this part of the country. When I replaced mine (again), I put it in a pan with a pipe over to the floor drain. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

[MBZ] S(orta)OT mowing machines

2019-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I had to go by the outdoor equipment shop yesterday to get a part for my leaf blower and was looking at these zero turn mowing machines they had there.  The biggest one they had, a 60" Toro, was over $9k!  I got to thinking that jacking up a cheap ML with a 6" lift then putting a coupla decks b

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Craig, and everyone else: Thanks for the input.  I have been happy to light pilots or burners  in exchange for appliances that run when there is no lektrick.  A few yrs ago they buried the lektric service, and I put in a new 200A panel, so juice is available, and lektrick is much more reliable

Re: [MBZ] OT tankless water heaters

2019-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I always place water hotters where a leak just goes down the drain.   That is a common practice this part of the country. Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 6/26/19 5:14 PM: +1 on heaters aging out. The tank we installed in 1996 had the melting dip tubes. The tube got replaced a dozen years i

[MBZ] We are not alone

2019-06-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
https://apnews.com/bc5bc21edffb422290c9ca66345e0748 -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/me