[MBZ] Why your junker ain't worth as much now
Interesting explanation. http://www.rabin.com/meet/Blog/August-2015/Market-Watch-The-Scrap-Metal-Industry.aspx Scrap metal prices have always been a indicator of world economic health. Low scrap prices = depression on the way. High scrap prices = boom coming. Scrap metals, rendered oils and protein, foods, pretroleum, pretty much all the commodities are at lows that were unthinkable a couple years ago in the 'bummer depression. As a practical comparison, 4 yrs ago, a 5-7 yr old dogde van was worth $8-10k from private sellers. This week I saw 5-7 yr old dogde vans mostly around $5K from private sellers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Good, better, Bosch dishwashers
Kitchenaid now is a gussied up whirlpoo. I bought a real kitchenaid new 30 years ago, and it was worked well for the time we were in the house. Don't think KitchenAid sell dishwasher in Oz. Hendrik who is the Kitchen aid ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 40 years of MB Dieselling
Not sure if this ever made it to the list. If so, let me know. It is anniversary time. 40 years ago, I bought a 1962 190Dc. It was battleship gray with bright red interior, including a rolled and pleated bench seat. It had four wheel drum brakes, and no brake booster. And of course there was no air conditioning and no power steering. But it had character. It had the 4 speed on the column and the vertical speedometer. It had the 12 gallon tank, with the reserve light. It was always ready to go anywhere, so long as I could get the battery charged enough to start the first time. In 1963, the 110s got a brake booster, a 16 gal tank that increased the range to ~500 miles and front disk brakes. But with my little 12 gallon tank, I could fill it for less than $3. $10 would fund an entire weekend within 500 miles. A tank out, a tank back and some money left over for food. Times and prices have changed but an MB diesel is still reliable transportation. Loren #1 1962 190Dc Long gone #2 1966 200D Still have it. #3 1965 190Dc Bought to fix and sell. It went to a bubblehead out in No'folk #4 1981 240D Still got it. and quite a few more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 40 years of MB Dieselling
It is anniversary time. 40 years ago, I bought a 1962 190Dc. It was battleship gray with bright red interior, including a rolled and pleated bench seat. It had four wheel drum brakes, and no brake booster. And of course there was no air conditioning and no power steering. But it had character. It had the 4 speed on the column and the vertical speedometer. It had the 12 gallon tank, with the reserve light. It was always ready to go anywhere, so long as I could get the battery charged enough to start the first time. In 1963, the 110s got a brake booster, a 16 gal tank that increased the range to ~500 miles and front disk brakes. But with my little 12 gallon tank, I could fill it for less than $3. $10 would fund an entire weekend within 500 miles. A tank out, a tank back and some money left over for food. Times and prices have changed but an MB diesel is still reliable transportation. Loren #1 1962 190Dc Long gone #2 1966 200D Still have it. #3 1965 190Dc Bought to fix and sell. It went to a bubblehead out in No'folk #4 1981 240D Still got it. and quite a few more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totalled car
Kaleb, So glad to hear that Regina is ok. As someone else said, cars can be replaced, people not. That said, it is really tough to lose a car that is rare, or has been in the family for a long time. Like an E430 or an 87 TD. It is luck that nobody else was in the car and that Regina is unhurt. Its a fact of life now that we are overrun with illegal aliens, and other members of the 47% of the population that live off the 53% that pay taxes. Few or none of the 47% have car insurance. That is why I will not go without uninsured motorist, but ours is to cover the loss of the car and medical, and is not that expensive compared to the basic liability. It is a really unfortunate that in OK the uninsured Motorist insurance is such a ripoff. If whoever hit Regina is a citizen, then you should be able to find out if they have a job. If so, the suggestion someone made about small claims may be the best route to follow. When it gets to garnishment, you may get some action, but most of the deadbeats will quit work and then only work for cash after that. At least you might recover part of the value of the car, assuming ins won't pay anything. Bummer any way it goes down, it seems at this point. When my daughter got broadsided in her SL, I was so glad she was in an MB. IN a lesser car, she could have been killed, being hit on the driver's side. When she got broadsided in my SDL, I was really bummed about the car, but still very glad she was in a MB. When Arleen got rear ended, again I was very glad she was in an MB. In each of these cases, they walked away from what could have been a very serious accident. Best wishes to all of you. BTW, Anna got the Idle air control yesterday. Thanks! Loren Friends don't let friends drive Toadas. Well wife got t boned in the 99 e430 today totaling it. Fixing to file claim with their INS company and want to get paid for rental car but I don't need a rental car. What's the best way to deal with that mention it up front or wait till later? If it comes down to it I would rather have a free rental car than nothing but would rather have the money for the rental car. Any other advise it's been a while since I have messed with INS companies Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W210 Q?
Can anyone tell me if a run of the mill E320 210 has an oil pressure gauge? TIA x ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more reasons not to be in a Toada
Yes, I thought a tiered approach to both drivers license and vehicle rating would be good. Vehicles and drivers with exceptionally good avoidance characteristics would be allowed higher speeds. Particularly high speed cars only allowed for high rated drivers. i gave up on the idea long ago. The law and insurance morons would kill any such reform. I think a tiered driver's license scheme could work, and create incentive for folks to improve their driving skills. The higher tiers would allow one to exceed posted speed limits by 10 or 20 mph under the right conditions (light traffic, good weather, vehicle in safe operating condition). Lower tiers would have restrictions like day-light only, no passengers except other driver's with higher tier licenses, no highway driving. Then you could restrict vehicle type by license type as well. More than 100HP? More than 3500 lbs GVW? You need a Tier 3 license to drive that! 200+ HP? Tier 4! At fault in a collision? Lose two tiers of license! Texting while driving? Back to Tier 1 -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] more reasons not to be in a Toada Curt Raymond wrote: I think the exposure (and the feeling of exposure while riding) makes you a better driver... Some auto writer, I think it was Patrick Bedard, suggested that you could decrease automotive deaths and greatly decrease crashes if you mandated a steel spike in the center of the steering wheel instead of an airbag. Looking at your own impending doom would tend to make one drive more carefully. He was basing the idea on risk compensation, which I think motorists do engage in. Drivers have a certain tolerance for risk. If you lower their perception of risk through safety improvements to the car, they will compensate by decreasing the safety of their driving to bring the total risk back up to their comfort ceiling. The spike in the steering wheel would be a bitch if somebody ran a red light in front of you. You'd get spiked and they probably would not. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more reasons not to be in a Toada
AND NONE of this prevents a plain old fashioned key switch or big red button emergency kill switch to shut down the whole freakin electronic mess when it goes whacko On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:51 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The mechanical linkage is dead, gone and unable to be resurrected;mandated traction control has seen to it. Ridiculous. The two have nothing to do with each other, though car company accountants and marketeers would probably like you to think otherwise. The electronic stability brain needs a couple of inputs and a couple of outputs. Inputs include pitch/yaw sensors, wheel speed, throttle position, and steering wheel position. Outputs can include engine power reduction, selective braking, and/or selective transfer of torque to a wheel or wheels. None of these require the computer to have control over the throttle. Engine power reduction can be accomplished by retarding timing, cutting spark to a cylinder (in the case of a gas engine), or cutting fuel to a cylinder (in diesels or in gassers). Selective transfer of torque among wheels can be accomplished by application of brakes to one wheel forcing torque to the other side on the same axle (given an open differential), or by electromagnetic clutch packs. None of this prevents manual control of the accelerator by the driver, including the ability to close the throttle completely (or stomp on the brakes!) to slow the car regardless of what the computers want to do. Electronic throttle control is an artifact of cost-cutting. It's cheaper to have one embedded computer controlling the entire car and connected to everything via fiber optic bundles than to have discrete electromechanical systems as in our beloved '80s Benzes. I am hoping that we don't see some sort of overreaction which brings parity between the QC (and QC regulations) of automobile parts/repairs andthose of airplanes. I'm much more interested in seeing some kind of mandatory licensing based on competence for software engineers. Anyone who has worked in high-tech knows that the majority of programmers are barely competent, and that there are no accepted or enforced standards for testing their work. And we trust our lives to these people every time we get in a modern car. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] more reasons not to be in a Toada
of this evidence, I think we should insist that vehicles be refitted with hardware throttle linkages. And keep on driving our old MBs with mechanical throttle linkages. In honor of Herr Doktor Booth: Loren Faeth, CQE, ASQ Senior member (owns no fly by wire v-hicles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Toada recall
or unexpected acceleration. In September, Toyota recalled 55,000 Camry and ES350 vehicles to replace the floor mats. But that was hardly the end of the problems. In January 2008, William Kronholm of Helena, MT, complained about his 2006 Tacoma truck accelerating while he hit the brakes. During the investigation, Toyota told the NHTSA it believed complaints by Kronholm, a retired Associated Press editor, and others were attributed to extensive media coverage. The automaker also said many of the problems cited by consumers, including lurching when the vehicle came to a stop and engine idle speed changes when the vehicle was stopped, were minor drivability concerns. Kronholm's case was closed in August 2008 without a defect finding. Deaths get attention Then, last August, a high-speed crash near San Diego killed a California highway patrol officer, his wife, daughter and brother-in-law, bringing renewed attention to the problems, now the regulatory responsibility of the Obama administration. The highway patrol officer's loaner Lexus ES350 reached speeds of more than 120 mph, struck an SUV, launched off an embankment, rolled several times and burst into flames. The family frantically called 911 from the Lexus, telling the dispatcher the pedal was stuck and they couldn't stop. In October, Toyota issued its largest-ever U.S. recall, involving about 4 million vehicles. The fix, which is still under way, includes reconfiguring the gas pedal and installing brake override software on some vehicles. In November, Toyota said federal regulators had concluded no defect exists in the case, drawing a rare rebuke from the government. The NHTSA said the company issued inaccurate information. In December, federal officials traveled to Japan to urge Toyota to take the safety concerns seriously and report defects promptly. Toyota said it would comply. On Jan. 12, a top Toyota executive said the company was addressing the problems. We have learned from these mistakes, and we are confident that we're doing the right thing for our customers, Toyota Motor Sales USA president Yoshi Inaba said in a Detroit speech. Nine days later, Toyota recalled 2.3 million vehicles over concerns the gas pedal could get stuck or fail to return to the idle position. Dealers are now engaged in an all-out blitz to fix the vehicles, inserting a small plate into the pedal assembly to deal with friction that could cause the problem. Separately, Toyota also told dealers Friday it's preparing a plan to repair the brakes on thousands of hybrid Prius cars in the United States and would disclose details this week. More than 100 drivers of 2010 Prius cars have complained their brakes seemed to fail momentarily when they were driving on bumpy roads. Critics weigh in The efforts have done little to soothe critics who have long thought the highway safety agency was too trusting of car companies and slow to push for higher standards. In Toyota's case, two of the company's top safety officials in Washington are former NHTSA employees. Consumer advocate Ralph Nader, who exposed auto industry malfeasance in his 1960s best-seller, Unsafe at Any Speed, said the problems stem from a regulatory enforcement agency that turned itself, due to corporate pressure and White House neglect, into a consulting firm. The NHTSA was without a permanent administrator for most of the past year. Obama's first choice, Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, withdrew from consideration after environmentalists criticized him for being too soft on fuel efficiency standards. It was not until December that Obama put forward David Strickland, a former counsel to the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, who was confirmed. Now fully engaged, the Transportation Department has stepped up its investigation and warned Toyota it could face civil penalties of up to $16 million for failing to issue timely recalls. But the government has sent a mixed message. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood advised owners of recalled Toyota to stop driving their vehicles last week, then quickly backtracked and said he misspoke. Congress is investigating, and lawmakers are planning at least two hearings on the Toyota recalls this month. Now, some Republicans, whose party was accused of failing to protect consumers during the Bush administration, question whether the agency held Toyota accountable. It begs the question if this is an organization that has been broken for a long time, said Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Committee. They do a lot of good things but are certainly not doing everything they should well enough. In honor of Herr Doktor Booth: Loren Faeth, CQE, ASQ Senior member (owns no fly by wire v-hicles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: measuring Power Factor
For all you EE types out there With all these fancy digital handheld meters out there, is there a clamp-on meter that will give you a power factor while clamped on a wire? Hopefully you don't have to buy a $5000-8000 fluke to do this. The Kill-A-Watt does it on 120v for $25-50 if you have a 120 v motor you can plug in to it. Thanks! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD
On the older Diesels, the smaall steel pan could be removed, engine in car, to service #1 and the oil pump. I have never seen a 603/140 combination, so I don't know what you are up against. If it has a one piece pan, you will have to pull the engine. At that time, you may want to use your weird 603, or repair the original. At 09:04 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: I don't know if you can get away with pulling just the lower pan to do #1 or not. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD
the proper tool is a ridge reamer. If you can see the crosshatching, you really don't need a ridge reamer though. In that case, cleaning off the carbon with a knife should work, but don't scrape below the carbon ring into the travelled part of the bore. At 06:21 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: got ya dave walton wrote: Piston comes out the top. I used the blade from my utility knife to remove the crust around the inner top lip of the cylinder. It flaked off easily once you got underneath it. -Dave Walton On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:27:01 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Will it remove out the top? I figured it would have to come out the bottom. If you don't have a ridge at the top of the cylinder, it should. You might need to use a ridge-breaker. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091012/00ed10c2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 trailer hitch
Does anyone have plans for a 126 (2nd version) trailer hitch? Specifically 87 SDLI remember discussion and plans for a TD trailer hitch a few years ago. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D no start
You need to loosen the clamp on the cable jacket at the IP, and slide the jacket toward the firewall enough so that it will hit the start position. Probably 2-4 mm as a guess. THat is the primary adjustment. As for glow, I have several times installed a secondary glow or starter switch. Take a ford fender mounted starter relay. (fairly easy to find at the junkyards 20 years ago. Not sure if they still use them, but I think so) Run a #10 wire (or fusable link) from the battery to the relay (mounted on the rear of the engine or on the firewall) large terminal (left, facing the two small terminals) From the right large terminal, run a #10 wire to the (hot) terminal of the glow resistor if you have loop glow plugs. (on a newer car, or one converted to pencil glow plugs, it goes to the terminal of the last GP) Then run a wire from any suitable hot fused terminal (31, switched) to a pushbutton (NO) mounted under the dash, then back to the new starter relay left small terminal. (single small terminal if your relay has only one small terminal. In that case, the mounting of the relay is expected to provide a ground for the pilot circuit.) From the second small terminal, run a wire to a good ground. If/when you have doubts about the glow switch working, you can try the secondary circuit. It it starts from that one, you know you have a problem in the glow switch circuit. My escort Diesel developed a problem in the switch/relay. Rather than spend days tracking down an intermittent problem in the winter. I rigged up the push button circuit in a mcparts lot when it was 20 below. It only took me 30 min or so, and I did all the wiring I could inside the idling car. Then I went out and installed it. Not fun at 20 below. Much better than spending days trying to fix an intermittent. You can hear the relay engage. I've also used a secondary pushbutton circuit to troubleshoot starter switch/starter solenoid problems. for that, you don't need the relay, just the pushbutton pilot circuit. At 05:18 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote: Gump is being a turd. The start cable fell off the IP while I was out with flu and oldest boy drove. He was not aware the cable had come detached and had trouble starting, but it would eventually light off. I found out the cable was off, and proceeded to hook it back to the IP and now it is not willing to start when the knob gets pulled. It will go to glow, but I am not able to pull it further so that it engages the start circuit. I did learn that the knob mechanism is a three part system. It first opens the fuel flow, then moves to engage the glow system. Final position is to engage the starter. What would work better would be a simple manual glow switch, and a push to start button. Probably pain in the rear to figure out the way to cut into the circuits. Anybody have advise on how to get Gump lit off? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300
I wish it were so. Nope, they are from Arkieland. Rumor I was told is that Some daughter and son in law of sam walton started autozone, and then got divorced. she kept autozone, and he bought into a company with a few stores and built it into almost nationwide. (Oreilly) almost everyplace there is or was an autozone, you will find oreilly. Now, there are more oreillys in the parts of the country I travel. So, whether you by stuff from Wallyland, groceries, or autoparts, A LOT of the dollars in the US go to Arkieland. At 08:13 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I dont know, they have parts stores all over the place. Walter (Radar) O'Reilly was from Ottumwa. He tried to ship a Jeep home, piece by piece. Maybe he got into auto parts after the war? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD
If I am assessing your measurements correctly, you are getting readings under the nominal bore size? (negative) that seems odd. If your numbers are in thousandths of a MM, then i think Mitch is right. Probably not much to get worried about. Can you see crosshatching on the cylinder walls? if so, your bore is NOT worn. If not, the bore is worn where the crosshatch is no longer evident. I have never used digital gauges, butif it is worn badly, you should be able to tell with the naked eye. if wear is only 0.020mm, or less, I don't see much concern. THe ridge on the bore or the crosshatch will tell you most of the story. I know in the past, pistons were binned according to actual dia, and blocks were stamped with actual bore. Thus, the actual bore was fit with a piston with the exact clearance. My 621 short block was actually nominal .5mm overbore. each hole was stamped something like ,47 indicating 87.47 mm bore for a nominal 87.5 mm. the Piston tops were also stamped with the exact dia. I don't know if they still use this practice. If the deck of your block has numbers stamped by each hole, then pay attention, because that will tell you the exact bore size when it was new. IMHO, you have a problem with a bent rod on #1. It is bent enough so that I predict a short life after the engine is running again , if you don't address the #1 rod at least. Seems to me what you describe is in the neighborhood of 0.010 inch or so, (maybe more) and that is a problem. Until you can get the same measurement repeatedly, you have more gauge error or operator error than actual wear. When I did compression tests on the SDL you now have, I used both an snappy gauge and the HF gauge until I was sure where the variation was coming from. (carbon on valves and the HF gauge) THen I settled on the Snappy gauge, and got consistent results. (One place where the HF tool is not up to par.) To be fair, my cheap one was from some online place, not HF, but the HF one at the time was essentially the same design. At 10:12 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote: No, have not put a depth guage on the piston tops, or inspected the rod. I do not have a depth gauge, where would you get such an item? About the most I have checked on the deck height is when #1 is at the top, if you run your fingernail for example from piston to block, it will catch, on the others, it will catch when you go the other way from block to piston. In other words, just from the naked eye, #1 does sit just a very very small amount lower than the rest. If its enough to matter, I do not know. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: .422 .398 So, your bore gage reads in mm, and it does two point measuring so you can measure along the crank and across the crank? And the above is the worst you have, with across the crank being .024mm wider? If that were .024, you'd have junk. .024mm is just under .001, which doesn't sound like much to me, but might be a lot for a diesel. I was recently looking at the spec on dad's 2 stroke outboard, and max out of round to reassemble without boring it was .003. It did come out as expected/feared, with #1 being the most worn. Have you inspected #1 rod? Or at least put a depth gage on the piston tops? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor
I have done quite a few engine swaps, even put a v-8 in a body made for 6 cyl inline ONLY. That was an adventure. I have worked on everything from tractors to medium duty trucks, houses, commercial buildings concrete, etc. I do not presume to know more about suspension than the team of German-trained engineers (real engineers) that designed the 123 SLS system. tyler, have at it, but I sincerely hope you are never coming toward me with your frankenheap on an Icy curve with a bump on a rainy night. At 06:34 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote: *Ahem* I believe the term here is put up or shut up. If its so easy just take a long weekend at Andrew's and show us how awesome you can make his car. I'm sure he'd give you dinner... -Curt Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:48:30 -0700 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4acfbdbe.4020...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It IS trivial to use a spring with the correct spring rate... Anyone that can do an engine swap, could do this much cheaper and easier. Tyler Peter T. Arnold wrote: GO for it! Redesign it. I'm sure that the effort would be trivial to a fellow like you. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091009/cfb2e204/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor
Agreed. We had an 84 TE, an 85 TD, 88 TE and the 87 TD. They are wonderful. I would love to have SLS in the 300SDLs. Maybe I should salvage all the SLS parts from the TD and figure out a way to put them on the SDL. I had to put almost everything to do with the SLS new on the 88TE. The ride is worth it. I hope some year that the powers at MBNA will deem us worthy to have a Diesel wagon again SOME YEAR!!! It has been 23 years! Anyone at MBNA listening ok, I didn't think so. At 06:45 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: Have you ever actually driven an SLS equipped MB wagon? I had an '81, the car was basically a disaster but in those few cases where everything was working right it was one of the nicest cars I've ever driven. Didn't matter the weight in the car, the back end would figure it out. It never wallowed or had excessive roll and its the only car I've ever driven that I felt I could drive over a railroad crossing at whatever damn speed I wanted, very responsive... I've considered many times that were I to go cross country an MB wagon would be the vehicle to take... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:25:49 -0700 From: Tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 82983431-2ddf-4e86-b1dc-f7ac4656b...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Assuming you have the proper spring rate (not just sedan springs), and bilstein HD shocks that are valved properly for a wagon- Surely it would handle at least as good as a brand new self leveling system- and better if you made it a little stiffer (which would also eliminate the need for the leveling feature). I personally think the SLS is mostly a marketing gimmick- especially on a car that isn't designed for heavy duty towing. I guess it lets them get by with softer springs than they otherwise would need to prevent sag when loaded, which makes the ride softer- but certainly doesn't improve handling over a set of stiff regular springs. Sincerely, Tyler 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Oct 6, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: We are talking about a wagon here, correct? Putting in regular springs in a wagon makes for better handling? I think not. The SLS when working properly handles VERY well. It is a very simple system, very little goes wrong. That think will never be right if you just put springs in it. tyler wrote: It sounds like a lot of work and expense to reinstall the self levelling system- I'd just keep the regular rear suspension myself. Simpler, more reliable, and better handling. If it sags in the rear when you load it up, just get stiffer springs or some spacers. I've used overload springs with stock height, but a 20% stiffer rate on my Volvo wagons that I do a lot of towing with. It handles a little better, and doesn't really sag at all when I load it up- but I didn't notice any reduction in the ride quality. Tyler -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091008/5f8dca5f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor
They DID! they are ALL OVER the REST of the world! MBNA has deemed that we don't want them here. At 09:56 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: I cant believe they never came out with a 2.5 turbo wagon, or the later 606 wagon, or a 606 turbo wagon in the 210 Loren Faeth wrote: Agreed. We had an 84 TE, an 85 TD, 88 TE and the 87 TD. They are wonderful. I would love to have SLS in the 300SDLs. Maybe I should salvage all the SLS parts from the TD and figure out a way to put them on the SDL. I had to put almost everything to do with the SLS new on the 88TE. The ride is worth it. I hope some year that the powers at MBNA will deem us worthy to have a Diesel wagon again SOME YEAR!!! It has been 23 years! Anyone at MBNA listening ok, I didn't think so. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedez Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo Diesel
WOW! makes me wish I needed a car! At 10:00 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270463275040 Time left: 3h 59m 39s (Oct 09, 200900:00:00 PDT) Bid history:27 bids[Refresh] Current bid:US $3,625.00 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel wagoon
Woger, I was asking for a station wagon. I guess that is a difficult concept to grasp. An M or G is not a wagon. they will sell me an S , C, or E gasser also, but those are Not Diesel wagons. the R is not a wagon. Close, but no bananas. They will sell me a gasser wagon, but it is NOT a Diesel I also wish we could buy an MB van that was at least as good as the dodge grand caravan. Yes, I know, I can buy one of the few Sprinters left, but they are also done for, and they are NOT the same as a grand caravan. Yes, if I could buy a new Diesel wagon or a new Bluetec Diesel grand caravan, I would buy one. If they really had released the Bluetec Caravan in 2007, like they advertised, I would have had one for 3 years already. At 10:08 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: ...I hope some year that the powers at MBNA will deem us worthy to have a Diesel wagon again SOME YEAR!!! It has been 23 years! Anyone at MBNA listening.. You are saying that if available, you would buy one, then? You can get a Bluetec M or G right now. Even the soon to be binned R. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091008/179aa7ca/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here we go again: 1995 E 300 Diesel Mercedes Benz for $3, 850
Out in the Mojave desert, they paint them all white. Some paint them white with a brush. Some with rattle cans. They do it for a reason! When I was in the ISUCFV Marching Band, everyone had black shoes when we went on field. It didn't matter what color the shoes were when the wearer put them on. Kinda the same principle in reverse. (we had guys with cans of black spray paint.) At 12:05 PM 10/7/2009, you wrote: Yes, black is the worst color for a car in my opinion, especially in a southern state. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here we go again: 1995 E 300 Diesel Mercedes Benz for $3, 850 Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1409493058.html Nice looking solar collector. I don't like driving black cars in Michigan in the summer, let alone the Carolinas. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] clacking noise from back of 190D
THat would be a 280S if it was a US model.
At 06:03 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote:
The only wheel bearing failure I've ever experienced did give a hundred
or two hundred miles of warning, during a road trip, but neither my
father nor I could figure out the noise until it was obvious (wheel
almost fell off). We'd just started a cross-country drive in a car he'd
bought the day before ('69 Benz sedan, don't remember the model,
straight six with dual carbs). There was a noise from the front of the
car, sounded like a water pump going out or maybe an alternator. We'd
drive for an hour, stop and poke around under the hood, drive a little
more, stop and look, etc. until it finally failed catastrophically.
Limped into next town (it was on old Route 66) at a crawl, only garage
there was able to get a new bearing and install it and get us underway
again in about 4 hours.
Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] clacking noise from back of 190D
My opinion is that wheel bearing failure is something that happens
slowly with tons of warning in most cases. I inspect and adjust my wheel
bearings every time I replace the brake pads. If the grease is clean,
and the bearings are properly adjusted and spin smoothly without
excessive drag or play, then they aren't on the verge of failure.
Tyler
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Funny that you should mention that. Wheel bearings came to mind when
the wife was trying to describe what noise she was hearing.
What happened when your front wheel bearings blew? I have heard that
basically your wheels can fly off.
And I too have been feeling paranoid, thinking how I don't have any
idea if they have ever been replaced on either of our Benzes, and how
the wheels could fly off at any moment. Was thinking of just having
them redone to be safe.
Brian
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[MBZ] 126 Antenna diagnosis
the Hirschmann in my 87 SDL quit suddenly. no motor noise. It has a good fuse. I think it is 15 and 18 is the radio. My guess is the next step is to pull the ant. plug in the trunk, and see if it gets juice when the key is turned on. Ign switch is flakey. the ACC and fan only work it you turn it slightly toward off when running. I tried turning it so the heater would work right after starting, but no motor noise. I think the antenna problem is unrelated. Anyone got ideas of what to try? It would be nice if my becker rebuilt antenna had not burned. I just pitched the remains on Sat. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna diagnosis
Yes, and yes. And I have tried switching it also. Nothing happens now. So. Andrew's suggestion of checking the radio and talso checking the antenna plug for power and signals. If my memory is correct, I think there are 4 terminals. 31, 15 (power and ground) and an up signal and a down signal, I'd guess. IF those are properly occurring, then the antenna is toast. (or a Cathey project) At 01:03 PM 10/6/2009, you wrote: Do you have an antenna switch on the upper center console? If so, is it the UP position? Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Antenna diagnosis the Hirschmann in my 87 SDL quit suddenly. no motor noise. It has a good fuse. I think it is 15 and 18 is the radio. My guess is the next step is to pull the ant. plug in the trunk, and see if it gets juice when the key is turned on. Ign switch is flakey. the ACC and fan only work it you turn it slightly toward off when running. I tried turning it so the heater would work right after starting, but no motor noise. I think the antenna problem is unrelated. Anyone got ideas of what to try? It would be nice if my becker rebuilt antenna had not burned. I just pitched the remains on Sat. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turning heads
That, and then reinstall the aluminum trim. If you are daring, put clear silicone seal in the groove too. Pretty much the same 110 to 123 and maybe 124 and 126. 124 and 126 front windshield is different than 110- 123. At 05:13 PM 10/6/2009, you wrote: Supposedly... I'm not sure if I'm daring enough to try it myself... -Curt Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:51:16 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turning heads To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 615cfb09a91042319dfe56a9ee9d6...@laptop Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Speaking of rear window replacement - my sons 78 240D needs replacement. I have the new w'strip but haven't tackled it yet. Is it a basic, cut the old w'strip, remove the glass, put the new w'strip around the glass with a strong string in the outer channel and lay everything in place before pulling the string out and pulling the rubber over the flange? More difficult to write than to do - and yes, I know it's not run-of-the-mill-string. Is that the way a rear glass on a W123 goes together? Thx all - LarryT 78 240D 92 300D -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091006/7fb18624/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT forget biodiesel, this is the new wave
ayep But I do wish you could get on an interstate, program your destination, catch the indiction rail (or other system) and relax for the trip. (WOuldn't need HP giving out speeding tickets) Short of that, I always want to hook a towbar to the back of a roadway or UPS doublebottom going the right way. At 10:58 PM 10/6/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:44:42 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Wasn't this idea in one of those Gibson cyberpunk stories using an old Volvo? http://www.swampfox.ws/2009/10/01/noncontact-power-transmission-roadway-powered-vehicles-insider-look-professor-srdjan-luki Despite much research and incremental progress, it is highly unlikely that a quantum leap in battery performance will be achieved. In physics, a quantum of energy is extremely small, vanishingly small. So is a quantum leap ... In addition, the infrastructure required to support inductive power transfer is enormous. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tools - was Pulls to the right when braking
Must be a difference in stores. Last several times I took crapsman tools into a snears store, the clerks looked at me like a was an alien and said there is no warranty on those tools. Yes, I tried several different stores within 150 miles. At 09:28 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote: Speaking of tools, I took three Craftsman tools back to Sears this evening - a 1/2 drive ratchet that I use to loosen lug bolts by kicking - and stripped the teeth in, a 3/8 ratchet that needed new guts - found it on the street last year, and a 12 regular screw driver that I broke the tip off prying on the old flex disks last weekend. I walked in, put them down on the counter, and before I could explain why I was bringing them back, the two sales guys were already heading to the wall to get the replacement tools. Not a single question, just here you are, thank you. The list price for the three was $45.00. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will say I lost a wrench or something on the test drive. I must have left one laying under the hood or something, I heard something fall off and hit the road, could not find it though. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091004/f20dc291/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tools - was Pulls to the right when braking
These all had crapsman stamped or cast into them. At 08:00 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote: Strange to me, I've never had problem with Craftsman branded tools. Their Companion Tools are only guaranteed to sink in sea water. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 8:23:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Tools - was Pulls to the right when braking Must be a difference in stores. Last several times I took crapsman tools into a snears store, the clerks looked at me like a was an alien and said there is no warranty on those tools. Yes, I tried several different stores within 150 miles. At 09:28 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote: Speaking of tools, I took three Craftsman tools back to Sears this evening - a 1/2 drive ratchet that I use to loosen lug bolts by kicking - and stripped the teeth in, a 3/8 ratchet that needed new guts - found it on the street last year, and a 12 regular screw driver that I broke the tip off prying on the old flex disks last weekend. I walked in, put them down on the counter, and before I could explain why I was bringing them back, the two sales guys were already heading to the wall to get the replacement tools. Not a single question, just here you are, thank you. The list price for the three was $45.00. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will say I lost a wrench or something on the test drive. I must have left one laying under the hood or something, I heard something fall off and hit the road, could not find it though. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20 091004/f20dc291/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091005/422eba9d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tools - was Pulls to the right when braking
20-30 years ago snears would replace tools under their warranty.
in the past 10-15 years, (since they got into financial trouble) I
have had no luck getting them to replace anything.
their sockets are ok
the wrenches are crap. Any cheap india/taiwan/china tools I have
bought are as good or better than crapsman wrenches. Crapsman box
ends are so thick-walled they won't fit in the counterbores Daimler
Benz provides for wrench clearance.
If you want really pretty thinwall box wrenches, it is hard to beat
snappy. I've not seen anything better than snappy. Snappy has the
tools everyone loves to steal.
At 07:02 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
20 years ago, a close friend lost is well equipped garage {And
Corvette} to a fire, took the building to the foundation. He was
well insured, collected for his losses.
A month later {New Garage s up}, we walks into Sears to by a BIG set
of tools. The sales man recognizes him and the explains that all his
tools had bee ruined in the fire, typically drawn to a dead soft
condition. Salesman tell him to bring them in and He'd swap them,
which they did.
In the would of mediocre tools, I always buy Sears Craftsman brand.
They are as good as most and better than the rest.
--
Peter Arnold
Windsor, CT
- Original Message -
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 10:28:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Tools - was Pulls to the right when braking
Speaking of tools, I took three Craftsman tools back to Sears this evening -
a 1/2 drive ratchet that I use to loosen lug bolts by kicking - and
stripped the teeth in, a 3/8 ratchet that needed new guts - found it on the
street last year, and a 12 regular screw driver that I broke the tip off
prying on the old flex disks last weekend.
I walked in, put them down on the counter, and before I could explain why I
was bringing them back, the two sales guys were already heading to the wall
to get the replacement tools. Not a single question, just here you are,
thank you. The list price for the three was $45.00.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I will say I lost a wrench or something on the test drive. I must have
left one laying under the hood or something, I heard something
fall off and
hit the road, could not find it though.
--
OK Don
CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
others.
The Devil's Dictionary
Ambrose Bierce
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Re: [MBZ] BAD 300D 2.5T
It is fatal. I'll give you $500 for it. At 06:24 PM 10/3/2009, you wrote: I finally got to work on this car today - I started with checking the cam timing, since it has 337k miles, and I wanted to see what the chain stretch was anyway. Everything looked good, no wear apparent on the cam nor the followers, and the stretch was just under 3 degrees, I'd say 2.8, best I can tell. While I had the induction tube off, I saw that the injector lines were not clamped as they should be. The line to #1 had been lying on top of the line to #2, which had been rubbing on the bottom of the charge tube. I bent the lines back close to where they should have been (it's great to have a reference car/engine!), happened to have some new plastic clamps to keep them from vibrating, so got them secured. the #1 and #2 tubes look like they are worn at least half way through - I'll be watching for another set, just in case they break. Otherwise, I didn't see anything wrong here. The primary fuel filter looked black, (was clear when new), so I changed both filters. The primary filter had a dark film over most of the inside, with several black rod shaped pieces of junk (bacteria?). approx. a 1/16th long, very fine. Started the engine with the new filters in place, and it ran normally. Took it for a test drive - it ran up to 4700 rpm in second, and a little over 80 mph in third before shifting (didn't notice the rpm). Ran smooth, no smoke, lots of power. I would not have guessed that fuel starvation could have caused the symptoms I experienced, and the sudden on-set. Live and learn! I'd start with the fuel filters, air leaks into fuel system, verify no gasoline (or water) in the tank, then move to the more complex like EGR. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] BAD 300D 2.5T On the way home today, about 3 miles from home, the '92 300D 2.5T lost power and would only hold 60 mph in third gear, pedal to the floor, spewing grey smoke. Came to a stop light, it idled smoothly and normally. Accelerating when it turned green, the car had little power, started knocking, and running rough at 1600rpm. I could get it up to about 2100-2200rpmmax. Let off the fuel and let it shift to the next higher gear, and it would slowly accelerate up again, same as before. When I got home, I opened the hood, expecting to find the pressure line to the ALDA, etc. off - but it all looks to be in place. With no load, rev'ing the engine results in the shacking, missing, knocking, and lots of smoke (grey) out the back. The smoke smells like raw Diesel. Any ideas where to start trouble shooting? -- -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091003/f49124bf/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
Not as is, but it can be towed on a tow dolly At 09:57 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Can it be driven? On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one would make a good car. Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping required. All the doors and liftgate work. All the sheet metal is straight, I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned. Has good hydraulic suspension components, including tandem pump. Interior is intact, but will be smoked. Trans is good. Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump. TIres are not burned. Rear glass is broken out. Windshield is cracked. Paint on the inside of the doors is good. Kaleb turned it down. Make an offer It is in central IA. Title is clean, not marked as rebuilt or junk. (No loans and no insurance at the time) email to lfaeth a t leadingchange c om I will make pictures available to interested parties. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091001/3b946fc0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
yes At 08:11 AM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Could it be driven onto a trailer? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD? Not as is, but it can be towed on a tow dolly At 09:57 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Can it be driven? On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one would make a good car. Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping required. All the doors and liftgate work. All the sheet metal is straight, I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned. Has good hydraulic suspension components, including tandem pump. Interior is intact, but will be smoked. Trans is good. Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump. TIres are not burned. Rear glass is broken out. Windshield is cracked. Paint on the inside of the doors is good. Kaleb turned it down. Make an offer It is in central IA. Title is clean, not marked as rebuilt or junk. (No loans and no insurance at the time) email to lfaeth a t leadingchange c om I will make pictures available to interested parties. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20 091001/3b946fc0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
You almost had it. Take the plug off the relay ,and test the G1-G4 points in the plug to ground. SHould be 1.4-1.7 ohms. High resistance, indicates open circuit, and bad plug. Lower resistance indicates a ground short, and a bad plug. If they all went out at once, and the resistance is in the proper range, then you should look at the 60 amp fuse in the relay. It can LOOK ok and be bad, so if you can't find another source of the problem, change the fuse and try that. Your problem could also be a failed relay or a failed ign switch (rare) At 10:00 AM 10/2/2009, you wrote: I don't think the glow plugs on my 82 240D are working. I'm not familiar with this in parallel system, just the old 220D in series system. Anyway, I turned the key to glow position and hooked a voltmeter from the glow plugs (where wire attaches to plug) to ground on all plugs and got nothing. Then I hooked voltmeter from G1,G2,G3,G4 terminals in relay box to ground respectively and got nothing. What else should I do and has my approach been correct so far? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D shocks
They are not too bad. I like to put the front up on jackstands. That leaves the jack free to raise or lower the LCA as needed. It can be done without the jack as others have indicated. For the rears, jack it up and put it on jackstands for safety. things line up pretty easy for the rear. TO get to the top of the rears, you have to remove the rear seat back. Do buy Bilsteins. The ride and handling is noticeably better. At 06:13 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Thanks. It doesn't seem as complicated as I thought. Challenge might be to get rusty bolts loose! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: More to get room underneath to work on them. although if you can reach the bolts/nuts you don't need to jack it up. Once you undo a mount they can be pushed in or out to get them out of the way. They are not structural so you can unbolt them, push the strut in/out to fit or miss the mounting points. If you let the wheel drop down it will give you a bit more room to work in there. The new ones are shipped with a plastic strap to keep them from extending, it might be easiest to attach the top loosely then cut the strap and let it extend (it does it slowly) then guide it into the bottom mount. You can compress them again if you need to but it takes a bit of ooomph and they want to keep extending while you are messing with them in there. Some shocks have a plastic bumper thing on the rod at the top, see if your car has that and note how they are arranged to get the new one on right (if you need it). --R Dimitri Seretakis wrote: So I only need to Jack the car up for th purposes of extending the shocks to be able to remove and replace them? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You can extend the shock strut/rod to fit on the attachments, I don't think you need to worry too much about supporting the LCA unless you want it up higher with the car jacked up to where you can get under (or do it on ramps). --R Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm still troubleshooting my glow plugs and in the meantime would like to replace the shocks on my car. I've never done this before. Reading the bilstein instructions they talk about supporting lower control arm. Does this mean that I need two jacks, one for control arm and one to Jack up the car? Anyone know the procedure for this job? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one would make a good car. Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping required. All the doors and liftgate work. All the sheet metal is straight, I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned. Has good hydraulic suspension components, including tandem pump. Interior is intact, but will be smoked. Trans is good. Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump. TIres are not burned. Rear glass is broken out. Windshield is cracked. Paint on the inside of the doors is good. Kaleb turned it down. Make an offer It is in central IA. Title is clean, not marked as rebuilt or junk. (No loans and no insurance at the time) email to lfaeth a t leadingchange c om I will make pictures available to interested parties. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
Front bumper is ok. Rear bumper cover is melted It is white exterior, blue interior. Instrument cluster is good. NO I have no time or place to part it out. You can buy the whole thing for a song and do it yourself. At 09:45 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: How are the bumpers? Interior color? Instrument cluster all work right? Are you going to part it out? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:35 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD? My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) and it is for sale for parts or if you want to do a ground up restoration, it and a rusty one would make a good car. Pretty much all the paint above the midlevel of the doors is scorched off, so there would be little paint stripping required. All the doors and liftgate work. All the sheet metal is straight, I found no damage to wiring, although the vacuum lines in the vicinity of the EGR are burned. Has good hydraulic suspension components, including tandem pump. Interior is intact, but will be smoked. Trans is good. Had a brand new radiator, front fenders and hood after bambi hit (0 miles since) New vacuum pump. TIres are not burned. Rear glass is broken out. Windshield is cracked. Paint on the inside of the doors is good. Kaleb turned it down. Make an offer It is in central IA. Title is clean, not marked as rebuilt or junk. (No loans and no insurance at the time) email to lfaeth a t leadingchange c om I will make pictures available to interested parties. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
No, it was one of 6 arsons, one of three breakins and one of one tire slashings prior to the fire (4 tractor drive tires.) (Since may). In a formerly safe small town. the local meat topping plant was sold to a big company, and the illegals were brought in. They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished. At 10:35 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: My 87 300TD was scorched in a garage fire (arson) Ouch. Any leads on the culprit(s)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
no, it was not my house. SOL At 11:13 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Did homeowners policy cover something like that? Just curious - seems like they would, unless it was too low? Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an 87 300TD?
you don't buy anything from them directly. they supply a lot of food companies. If you think you can hurt them, then don't eat pizza, or any factory meatballs (subway etc) They make precooked meats. I doubt they will notice the dent. Fish, hunt, shoot, fill your freezer, and you won't be supporting them. Send your dues in to the NRA and the Ikes. At 09:49 PM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Loren wrote: the local meat topping plant was sold to a big company, and the illegals were brought in. They will never catch anyone, and if they do, they will never be punished. We can punish the meat plant - give us a name and we won't be purchasing their stuff anymore. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD
The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I shut down the engine. If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur. The condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna. It ended when the Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x. At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote: Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with antenna unplugged. 'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk. Wilton Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD
UNplug them both, or pull the radio fuse and the antenna plug and see what happens. Yes, the drain can be caused by the radio. I don't know how, but it happened. At 05:15 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote: So the problem could be the radio and not the antenna? On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I shut down the engine. If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur. The condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna. It ended when the Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x. At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote: Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with antenna unplugged. 'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk. Wilton Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090929/d8ed32bd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Proper Speed rating for tires for a W123
I would not put on a Jokohama tire if it was given to me along with a sack of money. Those are killer tires, as in they can kill you. Tread unwraps on new tires at 70 MPH and does serious damge to your car. In case you don't catch the subtlety of my post, you can call me and I'll tell you what I really think of jokohama. (pronouunced joke o hama) At 02:24 PM 9/28/2009, you wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu I need new tires for my 300D. Seems I recall from a prior thread that H rated tires are actually correct. The sticker in the door frame seems to indicate an S rating is adequate. TireRack's web site is recommending a Summitomo HTR H4 (an H rated all-season tire) at $51 each, or a Summitomo HTR 200 (an H rated summer tire). Not to start a long debate, but does anyone have any other recommendations? I'm not shopping for snow tires now, but will get them later in the fall. Marshall said he had good service from Yokohama. I've had no problem with them on the 300D but then I only drive locally on good roads and in Florida weather. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Proper Speed rating for tires for a W123
you got your 240D to go over 90 mph? how? did you sneak an OM603 into it? At 10:48 PM 9/28/2009, you wrote: I'm not sure how fast you want to go, but I have Goodyear Regatta 2 tires on my 240D (and our Buick), and I can attest to the fact that they don't blow out at 90+ mph (in Oklahoma, heading down to an OkieQ). Plus, they go really good on snow and glare ice. Unfortunately, I think they have been replaced by something else -- same tire, new name, higher costs. Integra, if memory serves me. The 300E has top of the line Goodyear Assurance. Big bucks (approaching $100 a tire) but it turns a 2 wheel drive into a 4 wheel drive on snow/ice. And this is my sucky-weather driver. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I need new tires for my 300D. Seems I recall from a prior thread that H rated tires are actually correct. The sticker in the door frame seems to indicate an S rating is adequate. TireRack's web site is recommending a Summitomo HTR H4 (an H rated all-season tire) at $51 each, or a Summitomo HTR 200 (an H rated summer tire). Not to start a long debate, but does anyone have any other recommendations? I'm not shopping for snow tires now, but will get them later in the fall. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- DPAD. The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090928/4ca39025/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] clunker list
There were over 10,000 grand caravans on the list. Close to 20,000 if you count the crypsler version. I called the dealer, and was told they didn't qualify, and sure 'nuff, after the epa dinked with the mileage list they magically got 19MPG rather than the prior 18. I have a 2000 Grand caravan; if anyone wants to give me $3500, or $4500 for it, it is yours. At 08:33 PM 9/25/2009, you wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://www.cars.gov/files/official-information/trade-in-vehicles.pdf check out some of the MB's that got clunked. Simply unbelievable. As submitted, not necessarily reviewed or approved Now, my understanding of the rules was they had to be old, but not older than 1984, and combined MPG of 18 or less. I'm seeing a lot of cars that I was sure didn't qualify, and a few that only a moron would crush for $4500, unless it was so decrepit that it would be an embarrassment to put on the road. How about that DB7? For the clunker deal, they'd have to be running/driving. What's a running DB7 parts car go for these days, $10,000? One each 1991 M5 and 1991 M3. How in the world did the M3 qualify, I thought the overall MPG was in the 20-22 range, just like a 2.3-16? Who would sell a 2005 Mazda RX-8 for $4500 or less? And since when did 2005 model cars qualify? I thought my 2.3-16 was too fuel efficient to qualify, but here I see a clunked 1989 190D, and a 1993 190E 2.3, and a 1992 300D 2.5t. Why would we crush 30-35mpg diesels to replace them with 'fuel efficient' vehicles? Don't tell Dave M, but somebody clunked a '92 500E. What moron would try to clunk a 2008 9-3 Aero, for crying out loud? Salvage value on a totaled car's got to be at least $4500. But I wonder what the salvage yard would pay after you clunked the engine and then the feds failed your application for rebate? TVR 280i, don't see one of those every day. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] howto for oil cooler line replacement?
Glad to hear you were able to pull it off without a major hitch. The assembly/tightening sequence you describe is correct. At 10:17 AM 9/27/2009, you wrote: Finally got to this job yesterday... it's actually went better than I expected. I had no trouble removing the old lines. I had treated the fittings with the acetone/ATF mix a couple of times over the past few weeks. I don't know if that helped, but they did open up without stripping the threads or damaging the cooler. I used anti-sieze on the threads when I installed the new lines. The hardest part was getting the new lines into the clips. My suggestion for anyone doing this... attach the ends at the cooler first. They have a rubber hose section so the rest of the pipe will still be moveable. If you attach and tighten the lines at the filter, you won't be able to reposition them. Once the cooler ends are attached, install the retaining clamps (one above the AC compressor, one near the motor mount) loosely. Then attach the lines to the filter, but leave them loose enough that the pipes can still move. Tighten the retaining clamps, then the snug up the nuts on the filter. I also replaced my motor mounts... the trick here is to be sure the engine is lifted high enough. The old collapsed mounts will slide out easily but if the engine is not high enough the new ones won't slip in. Allan Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com writes: Allan, You will be able to detect that some of this is tongue in cheek, but this is how I would recommend how to go about it. It is mostly serious. If you go through all the preparation steps, it will save you having to stop and go acquire something else. Preparation 1. Wash out the left side of the engine, hoses and oil cooler as well as you can at the carwash. Steam cleaner is great, if you have access to one. Wash upside down too. 2. buy a spare oil cooler. Chances are the threads will be buggered up on yours, one side or the other. 3. get some Neverseize for the threads when you put the new hoses on. 4. Secure alternate transportation for a week or two if the project runs the normal course, and you have to wait for parts. 5. Line up wrenches to fit the oil filter end (Adapter and nut) and the oil cooler end. 6. soak the oil cooler ends (nuts) with penetrating oil for 1-4 weeks in advance. 7. Figure out a way to hold a 8-10 lb sledgehammer behind the nut while you whack it with a 2-4 lb hammer to loosen the corrosion. 8. designate a set of clothes to get covered in Diesel motor oil 9. buy a bag of floor dry 10. put the car up so you can crawl under it 11. take a trial pull on the wrenches at the oil cooler fittings. Take care not to damage the oil cooler. If things are normal, one will loosen with major effort, and the other won't. Now you know which one is really corroded. 12. line up an air grinder with a cutoff wheel, a dremel or some similar way to cut through the really stuck nut. The actual job: 1. Loosen oil filter cover (It is a good time for an oil change) 2. Loosen the nuts at the oil cooler. Drain oil into a catch pan. 3. Loosen the nuts at the oil filter 4. loosen clamps that hold the hoses 5. remove the hoses, noting which one goes in which position and which one goes to which connection. It is not easy, but it can be done. I think I removed the left motor mount arm from the engine on the 240D to allow more room. That means you need to support the engine from underneath. 6. install new hoses in reverse, putting neverseize on the cooler end threads. Simple huh? Notes: Plan on getting a bath in oil. You will need a trouble light to see the bolts on the clamps For the nut that is really stuck: We assume you have already soaked it for a month. Next try beating on the nut with the hammer, being careful not to damage the body or the oil cooler or your fingers. the goal is not so much to bash the nut as to pein it many times with enough force that the corrosion in the threads will loosen. Rest, Go at it again. If you have an air chisel, you can accomplish this easier with an air chisel, but it does not have the mass of the hammer, so it may not loosen the corrosion. If that doesn't work: Decision time: You will either have to throw out the oil cooler with attached hose and use the new used one, OR make a cut through the nut to try to get it to pop so that the corrosion will loosen. This is irreversible and may result in needing to use the new used oil cooler OR you can cut the ferrule off the old hose, remove the hose from the hose end, leaving the hose end on the oil cooler. Then you have to cut the ferrule on the NEW hose, pull out the hose end, slide the hose onto the old hose end. Put a clamp on it. The hardest thing (aside form getting the stuck nut loose) is to keep a wrench on the aluminum lug on the oil cooler while you try to get that nut off without getting the oil cooler messed up
[MBZ] Balancing ceiling fans WAS: Balancing a drive shaft
I have static balanced fan blade by weighing each blade, and adding weight. I use washers rather than quarters. a little cheaper! This does not take into account any imbalance in the motor/blade mounts. Your dynamic balancing does that. But, as you indicated, it is not always straightforward. THe static balance gets you close, then it can be supplemented, if necessary, with the dynamic balance. At 10:36 AM 9/27/2009, you wrote: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net writes: It describes adding thicker nuts or larger washers on the rear flex disk mounting bolts to balance the rear section of the drive shaft - by trial and error. Yup, it sure does. Could be a real drag to get right! Sounds like my attempts to balance ceiling fans by taping quarters to the backs of the blades that I think are too light. It is pure trial and error. You can study the wobble of the fan and think you know where the weight needs to go, but often as not my intuition is incorrect. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: powercraft table saw
Does anyone know who made the Monkey Ward Powercraft table saws? I read about them online once, and it seems there is quite a following of the manufacturer's saws in the East. Now I can't find the article or remember the name of the manufacturer. I seem to recall the company was two surnames. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Throttle maddness
I got new metal sockets from Rusty for my dearly departed SDL. Just order sockets for an 81 240D. Those are metal and used to be sold as ends only. At 06:40 AM 9/25/2009, you wrote: Curt, do you regularly lube the linkage sockets with ATF? Here here! on the plastic sockets. Broke one, MB only sells entire rod with sockets and for too high of a price, I was able to scrounge a rod with metal sockets at pick-n-pull. Max Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biobor
At 09:17 AM 9/23/2009, you wrote: Will just using a biocide get rid of the water the bugs grow in, too? No, thus, the suggestion of a filter-separator unit. Most trucks/tractors use a water separator first, then a fuel filter. A Stanadyne Master filter is a good addon for your MB. It can fit on a fender. Didn't Marshall say that a Benz didn't need an additional water separator? Probably, and he is right, so long as you don't get a slug of bad fuel. The nice thing about a separator, is that you can just drain out the water. The only way to do that with an MB factory filter is to drill a hole in the bottom of the filter case, then plug it with JBweld. Not something I want to do. (in the real world, when you drive around the countryside and can't always fill at a reliable supplier, you WILL get a slug of bad fuel.) Even my frod Escort diesel had a water separator built into the filter. It also had a fuel heater built into the filter unit. The newer yanmar-derived (as opposed to Waterloo designed) JD I had (97 5500N) used a single filter-separator unit It even shut off fuel when the water level got too high. The guy I used for 30 years to work on my Inj nozzles and pumps had a Master filter on his MB Diesel. I trust his judgement, because he has seen all kinds of failures. I know this is sacrilege, but Marshall was wrong a few times. He was a prince of a man and he was right 99% of the time. The bottom line is: Water will cause damage to injector nozzles. If you drive a Diesel long enough, you will get water and you will get bad fuel/dirt in fuel, and you will see crud in fuel. The more lines of defense you have ahead of the IP, the better the chances are that you won't damage the pump and nozzles. The largest group of problems with the early GM v-8 diesels was poor filtration and NO water separation. The filters plugged often, and were hidden. Water went through and ruined nozzles. Adding a real filter separator made them somewhat reliable, but it was still a poor engine. For the Catheyesque setup, grab the filter/separator off a 4010 through 4440 (at least) John Deere tractor in a junkyard. Why buy new? Excellent idea. Only I don't live in Iowa, eventhough I have applied for physics professor positions there. I haven't even seen that kind of tractor in northern New Mexico. If you do a search for tractor salvage you will find no end of choices. We all order car parts from distant places. No reason you could not find a phone number online and call them up and order a used filter, if you want one. I found 5 in Iowa on bigbook . c o m, and it didn't even list any of the ones I know of. Call Jeff at 515-674-3001 (colfax tractor parts) Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biobor
On my recent travels I happened to come across a West Marine store. They only had the BioGuard stuff. It was a little over $25 with tax. In defense of RELLY, it looks like biobor is packed in pints for the marine market, although I have never seen the product. At 11:15 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote: Well, I see two biocides on the West site add I think they are both OK: Biobor JF Microbicide and BioGuard Fuel Microbiocide. They are both $23 to $25 a pint. The goal is to prevent the microbes from growing at the fuel-water interface. As I recall, the live bugs live in the water but the dead bugs get in the fuel and can goom up the injectors, etc. The fuel looks dark in color when this happens. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] water separators
No, but by its design, it can trap some small quantity of water. At least is is not like the old GM filters that put fuel/water in the top and draw whatever liquid goes in, out the bottom, water first. At 04:19 PM 9/24/2009, you wrote: I can tell you there is no water separator built in. If there was, there would be a way to drain the water out. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: You know, I was just wondering how to confirm Marshall's words and determine the source of his knowledge on this water separator that is supposed to be built in to the fuel filter. How did you determine that he was wrong? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 314k miles Charleston SC -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] water separators Didn't Marshall say that a Benz didn't need an additional water separator?.. He said that and he was flat wrong. I proved it on my own car. And there was no factory water separation in stock form. You know, not every single word uttered by him was the voice of God speaking as some seem to believe. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009092 3/fa67eacd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2391 - Release Date: 09/23/09 18:00:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/6ff367a6/attachment.html -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2393 - Release Date: 09/24/09 18:00:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
If you did not change them yourself, they were not changed. IMHO, the only chance of getting those changed unless you changed them yourself, is a Mercedes only independent shop. Others would be only too happy to charge you for changing them if you request, with a much less than 10% probability that they actually did change them. At 05:06 PM 9/24/2009, you wrote: Bill R wrote: I always use Delvac 1 and change it about 10,000, though my mechanic says 15,000 should be ok. I just don't like going that long. It is quite possible that the 'o' rings are old, though. My nephew doesn't do much of the work at his shop, so it is possible the mechanic [who always calls him if there is something he is not familiar with] might not have changed them. BillR Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] water separators
Can't argue with RELLY on this one. It only takes a minuscule bit of water to ruin a nozzle. Seems like a lot of consecutive problems, but the racor filter separator is a good unit. I prefer the Master one, because good used ones are available, and as I said in a previous post, you are never far from a JD Dealer, NAPA or FLAPS that sells the cartridges, even in urban areas. As for fuel, the first bad load I got 20 some years ago was at a trusted high volume truckstop on the interstate. The last one was at a coop elevator station. Generally, the coops are real careful about their fuel, because the primary users are the people they need to stay in business. (Customers for the high dollar customers and services) While I agree, a high volume truckstop is often the best, I have had good service from smaller locally owned stations. Last summer I was buying fuel at a trusted supplier, and yet, in the period of only about 20 gallons of fuel consumption, the water separator shut down the engine twice. At least the second time, I drained the separator first. I still can't explain that one. It either came out of the air or out of the fuel. (or some from each source) At 06:42 PM 9/24/2009, you wrote: ...Every diesel water separator I've ever seen (for instance the Racor unit often fitted to industrial diesels and easily available as an aftermarket kit, and the one integral with the fuel filter housing on VW TDIs) has a way to drain the accumulated water via a little petcock on the bottom or side. Mercedes fuel filters have none such. I may be wrong, but to me that's a strong clue that they don't perform any water separation... You are certainly not wrong, despite certain statements to the contrary. When I bought my 300D new, and having come from a 116 450SE, I was very sensitive to random nailing. So whenever I started to hear it at idle, it was off to the dealer for a resolution. Which is why, during the 50K mile warranty period, they installed thirteen new injectors or injector tips and carefully set the pop-off pressures in the replacements. Which were 1850 psi at the time for the NA diesels, I think. Near the end of the warranty, I became aware of the Racor water separator and purchased one from Seattle Injector for about $85.00 A friend and I fabricated a steel bracket (not aluminum because of the vibrations) which was mounted on the left fenderwell just opposite the main filter. The unit had an integral 4 micron filter and a Lexan (not glass) bowl with a petcock at the bottom. I plumbed the Racor inlet from the prefilter and the outlet to the main filter with the correct clamps to guarantee that no air could sneak in. From the day the Racor was installed, the sound of nailing was gone forever. That's another 70K miles until I traded the car. Even though very little water was ever observed trapped in the bowl which I drained frequently, I know it doesn't take much to damage the injector tips by forcing water through them. And that's where all my noise had come from before the Racor installation. BTW, and before anybody pipes up, my fuel always came from a high volume station and even then, a bit of water seems to be unavoidable. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/ea2f545f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Idle Speed Too Fast
You SURE it is set too fast? I'd bet a sticky or out of adjustment linkage or dirt/crud under the footfeed pedal. UNhook the linkages, and see how slow it will idle. There is a whole series adjustments for the swing tube diesel linkages including limiting the RPM at top speed. The OM621 has it in detail, and I think the 616 book does too. I have seen bound up bellcranks on the exhaust side of the engine, crud under the pedal. Rusty pedal hinges frm crud under the pedal, bunched up floormats and other stuff all cause stuck throttle//idle too fast. At 03:18 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Hi All, My 74 240D idle speed is too fast. The idle speed control knob and throttle arms can increase speed but not reduce it because the vacuum-operated governor overrides it. How do I reduce the idle speed setting on the governor? Thanks, Bruce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/8cbc11b0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 350SDL
Could be the goofball just doesn't know to turn the steering wheel to take the pressure off the steering lock so the key will turn. GUy put 2k on the car without transferring the title. Not someone I want to sell a car to. At 07:19 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Yeah, I thought about the vibrating sander deal, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 350SDL Somebody needs a vibrating sander. I'd be interested in knowing how he drove it 2000 miles without titling it in his name. Mitch. WILTON wrote: A pity. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-350-SDL-1991-Mercedes-350SDL-Fix-or-parts-nice-car-in-Pa_W0QQitemZ290351980954QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item439a53a19a_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT A tidbit of knowledge
Had a similar incident today. Drove the SDL to pick up a couple of bolts for the SL. Shut it off, came back, turned the key and all sorts of flashing lights and clicking relays. Shut it off, tried again, same result. Didn't have one tool in the car. (mistake #1) Thought it was about like when the starter died in my other SDL. Figured I was screwed. Got out the tire iron to see if I could get the neg termonal off the battery. Couldn't budge it. What pounding I did, seemed to only push it on further. Got in to call for help, and decided to try the key one more time. Lights, and starter. Everything is fine. Now, I expect this crom corroded terminals. But these had been cleaned and checked less than a month ago. No corrosion. Everything good, but too much resistance for good current flow. Turning the terminal and pushing it further on, cured the problem. At least I attacked the right problem, even though I thought it was a tangent. At 08:27 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: So today I get in my truck, start it, back down the driveway, it dies after about 30 ft. Restart, hard to start, running sluggish, goes about 10 ft and dies. I see the voltmeter showing about 9V. Hmm, noticed it was running a bit low on voltage a few days ago. Get out and check all the cables and connections, think maybe the alternator is crapping out. Positive wire on battery moves a bit but nut is tight. Get a little wrench and torque it some anyway. Truck starts and runs fine. I guess it was just loose (lose) enough not to be making good contact, so alternator and battery not coexisting peacefully. So, TIGHTEN YOUR BATTERY CABLES if something like that happens to you. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketable
Amen, and this discussion would NOT come up if everyone paid their own bills, instead of expecting Nanny to do it for them. This country was created by REAL MEN and WOMEN, not the bunch of whining wimps that inhabit the country now. If YOU expect ME to pay YOUR bills, then I have a RIGHT to say Pull the plug! Or: DNR for Bikers with out helmets or drivers without seatbelts. Yes it is WRONG. But that is what happens when YOU expect ME to pay YOUR bills because you got the Gummit to steal my money That is WRONG, and it IS unconstitutional. At 09:43 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Who exactly pulls the plug? Do we wheel Timmy up to you and you give thumbs up or thumbs down deciding if he lives or dies? In fact there probably should be a board of physicians someplace that does that very thing. It'd hurt like hell if you had a loved one who got the thumbs down but it'd be over... My wife's uncle is severely retarded mentally and physically and has been that way his whole life. He's been provided for his entire existence while providing nothing for the common good... 40 years ago this could have been headed off. With what? Assisted suicide? I think our nation's founders had a better idea: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Idle Speed Too Fast
you sure there is no vacuum leak? Basically, the IP and governor are not serviceable items, except on a multi-tens of thousands of dollars IP test stand. Before you pull the pull and condemn the IP, make sure you have eliminated all other possibilities. I would remove the vacuum line and inspect every m of it, then put it back with NEW seals and try it again. If the steel line is rubbing, it can wear through. It can also rust through, although old diesels usually keep the engine compartment well lubricated, so rust is generally not an issue on that line. Is there any other source of oil into the intake? Excessive blowby? anything that is combustible that can get into the intake is used as fuel. At 10:24 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Loren and Kaleb, I disconnected all linkages at the IP and intake, and backed out all the adjustment screws, and am still unable to reduce the idle speed. It seems to be only controlled by the vacuum line and the governor. There must be a direct control of the governor somewhere, I just can't locate it. Thanks, Bruce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/6b694cb1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 380SL Timing chain and rails
This is the third installment. Will try to get the photos with the three pieces and make a decent article. There my be a few minor steps I skip in the writeup, because I am assuming an average or better mechanic skill level before you would attempt to change a chain and rails. There may be big steps I skip too, because I am completing each piece from memory after I am cleaned up, not while I am doing the work. M116 engine type in 1985 380SL. 153k miles. Finished up the job today. I wired up the chain and removed the sprocket on the right cam, after making sure the match marks I had put in earlier were still visible. The tensioner banana rail pin would not come out as advertised. I put an ezout in it, tapped it and turned. Nothing happened. Kept trying, and could not get the pin to budge. Considered pulling the radiator, but the evap would still be in the way. Then I remembered Rusty said the cover was removable. took the new rail and removed and replaced the cover a couple of times. Could it be done with the rail in the engine? It was easy enough to slide off the old cover and pull it out with needlenose. Could not get the new one to hook in at both top and bottom. Then I tried just hooking the bottom, but every time I pushed it down enough to hook the top, the bottom came off. Finally went back to the new rail with the new cover and put in on and off. I found the trick. Hook the bottom end on the aluminum rail, put a loop of wire around the cover. Pull up on the loop of wire while pushing the op end down into the slot. as the top end slides up, release the wire. Check to see both top and bottom are secured to the rail. Cut the wire and remove it. Now cap the pin. the cover is supposed to have an aluminum seal. Install the upper rail. Seat all the rail pins after checking all rails again. I used a 5/16 pin punch to seat the pins. On earlier engine s I used to fill the internal threads of the pins with moly grease to protect the threads. You may or may not want to do this. Replace the right cam sprocket onto the cam. Install the chain replacement tool. Cut the old chain, being careful not to get filings in the chain case. Rags or paper towels around everything also keeps parts of the link or master link from dropping down, a MAJOR problem. I once had to take an engine out and tear it down because i dropped a link, and it wedged in the crank sprocket. Connect the new chain to the old using the master link. TUrn the crank to roll in the new chain. It takes quite a few revolutions to get the new chain in. In the beginning, you my need to help the old and new chains along, but once it has 10 or 20 links in, both the chains self feed. Remove the master. COnnect the ends of the new chain with the new master link. My new master had 2 tiny c clips in place of the peened link. Nasty little buggers, but they snapped on ok. Check the c cplips very very carefully. This may be the most critical step of the operation. A lost c clip can mean a trashed engine. Remove the chain replacement tool. install a NEW tensioner. I used a piece of 1x4 to pry the tensioner close enough to start the bolts. turn the engine over slowly to #1 TDC and check the timing marks on the camshafts. If you were able to roll in the chain, you should be ok. Install PS pump plate Install the PS pump and adjust the belt. Install the distributor, but don't tighten the bolt yet. Replace cap and wires. INstall the Alternator bracket. install and adjust the alt. belt. Replace valve covers. You may want to replace the gaskets. I could not get the left valve cover off the engine. just raised it up enough to clear the cam sprocket. I put a new gasket on the right one. The valve cover bolts are supposed to have aluminum washers. You did order some, didn't you? I didn't because i didn't know they were there. At this point, I turned the engine over by hand a couple of times then started it. It ran, so I adjusted the dist by ear for fastest idle. I pick a midway point in the travel at the highest speed. You don't want it too advanced or too retarded. Then I shut off the engine and replaced the fan and shroud, radiator hose and vent hose, air cleaner and its hoses, after a genral check of the engine top to make sure I didn't leave any tools there. I know, y'all need fancy tools to set the dist. But my pappy set the timing by ear, and one of the best mechanics I ever knew did too. Every time I have done it and then had the timing checked, it was right, and didn't need to be adjusted. So now, I just go with it, and don't bother with timing lights and dwell meters, computers, etc. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] Knock slosh
Do you have the hard return lines on that engine? Those are a collar type fitting held down with a nut. They can be buggers to get sealed. You can try loosening the banjo bolt where the collar meets the hard line. that allows some flexibility. Peter is right, of course about the body seal and the crush washer/heat shield between the tip and the prechamber. Those have to be replaces each time the injector nozzle holder is removed. At 07:12 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Got the injectors installed and Gump starts and runs with more power than I recall her ever having. Problem is that the injectors are leaking at the body and I have a pretty severe knock coming on. I did not replace the spacer in each cylinder, just left what was there in. I think they are all the same anyway. I guess I need to remove and retorque the injectors to deal with the leaking fuel, but what else should I be doing? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 300D on Ebay
Sounds like a deal if anyone is close. Rust is not too bad. It would run a long time for few $$. At 07:36 AM 9/20/2009, you wrote: Attention: Curt $360 with one day to go. 11 bids from 3 bidders (9 from one guy--- is that you, Curt?). And a shot to take back the 'cheapest jalopy' award at next year's ChowdahQ! :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170383099967viewitem=sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT No affiliation, but I'd like to see it go to a good home. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of feral BMWs _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090920/89ac7442/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketable
Some people have all the luck! You don't have to be a violator to get a ticket. It is just another gummit program to raise money. They will give you a ticket and lie under oath if they decide they want to get you. You for sure don't have to be speeding to get a speeding ticket. The cops know they are very difficult and expensive to fight. They bank on you rolling over and paying the fine. Why do you think speed limits are set 10-20 MPH (or more) under a reasonable and prudent speed for the stretch of road? Why have speed limits at all They only became popular after some jurisdictions produced a lot of revenue from speed traps. Pete, who has never been ticketd when he was driving at of w/in 10mph of the limit Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biobor
In Diesel, you DO NOT want to disperse the water in the fuel. You want to use an agent to precipitate out water, so it can be trapped in a water separator/fuel filter. Dispersed water is bad for Injection systems. In gasoline, you want alcohol in the gas to disperse water. the BQ-9000 standard for BioDiesel is all about removing alcohol, glycerine and soaps form Diesel fuel. Alcohol is used in the production process. It displaces the glycerol from the feedstock, thus freeing glycerine, which is separated. Granny used lye and fat to make soap. The catalyst for BioD production can be lye or similar alkaline compounds, so soap is an impurity formed in the production of BioD. The reason it is so critical to remove the alcohol from the fuel is that it disperses water in fuel, causing Injection system damage. Use a Biocide as needed. The fuel additives may or may not be necessary. There are lots of good Diesel fuel conditioners. BG makes a good one. Howes is widely used in trucks. Almost every truckstop carries it. Amsoil makes a good one. I'd stay away form the ones in McParts unless you also find it at good truckstops. Most trucks/tractors use a water separator first, then a fuel filter. A Stanadyne Master filter is a good addon for your MB. It can fit on a fender. The line from the transfer pump goes in the bottom of the separator. Fuel is taken form the top of the separator, and fed to the filter inlet, and the fuel filter outlet goes to the MB factory filter. For the Catheyesque setup, grab the filter/separator off a 4010 through 4440 (at least) John Deere tractor in a junkyard. Why buy new? The glass bowls make it easy to see if you have dark fuel, and need to add biocide. At 09:36 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:18:10 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My 82 300 SD gets little use these days so I keep a bottle of Biobor in the trunk and add the specified amount at every fillup. It doesn't take much so the bottle lasts a while. The plastic bottle has a gizmo that lets you squeeze the required amount into a small chamber to pour in the tank so it's pretty convenient. I generally get it from West Marine. I went to West Marine's website and found Biobor JF Fuel Anti-fungal listed on http://ecatalog.westmarine.com/full.asp?page=394 ($22.99/pint). Is this the right stuff? Marshall also said that one needed to disperse/get rid of water, but I don't recall him mentioning a product for that task. The same page lists ValvTect Marine Diesel Additive with BioGuard. Is this an appropriate thing to use in addition/instead of the Biobor JF? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tank screen
THat is dried up now, but might still show the effect of a biocide to disperse the stuff if I put it into a fuel/water mix. You are right, I forgot about the nature of the freight companies and dissel fuel. You are probably a terrorist anyhow? Try shipping me the screen with the dried crud on it. I'll see if will act as a starter culture to grow some crud. THat way the PO will only see a screen with some crud. At 08:28 PM 9/18/2009, you wrote: Loren wrote: If someone will send me a sample with live algae... What is live? I have the old gunked screen still. It has been sitting outside in warm weather and sun - is that alive? Although, I bet USPS will not allow me to ship, as it is fuel, and may explode upon extreme compression. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tank screen
yep, that's the plan At 07:35 AM 9/19/2009, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Try shipping me the screen with the dried crud on it. I'll see if will act as a starter culture to grow some crud. THat way the PO will only see a screen with some crud. IIRC, the crud lives in water, and eats diesel, so its natural environment is the water/fuel boundary in the tank. (in other words, you'll need water to grow crud) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook??
That sounds like every shyster's dream! A client with a big positive bank balance and a more or less blank check for fees! SNook will be buying a new BMW in 4 weeks or so At 07:34 PM 9/19/2009, you wrote: My instructions are something along the lines of scorched earth or full steam ahead, or ramming speed or Damn the torpedos! or more colloquially, Go kick their ass! Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL timing chain project
I got pretty far with the project yesterday. I had hoped to finish it, but that was not in the cards. Have to remove the alt bracket on the right to expose the right head front face to remove rail pins. On the left, the PS pump and the PS Pump mount have to come off. I took some pictures of the mixed mode methods I used to pull the pins. Got the engine to TDC#1. Marked the first plug wire for each bank. Removed the cap. TDC#1 position leaves the rotor at the 12:30-1 position. Removed the bolt for the DIst. Pulled the dist, observing the rotor position as the gear disengages. It is Just about 12:00 position. Pulled the pins. Top rail, left bank was broken, and the piece was visible. Nother trip to HF, this time for 1/2 metric sockets and a spring loaded clamp to remove the piece down in the head/block Got the piece out. Trimmed the tail of the Left top new rail, to aid in prevention of future failure by breaking off the tail. Removed the tensioner. Determined the tensioner side has a banana rail. I was shipped a short rail! OOPS! GAME OVER! Called the Q man. He sent the right piece next day, So I hope to have it today. I tried to find the bottom pin for the banana rail. It is behind a cap. The cap uses a 6mm allen wrench. Got the cap off. the pin is hollow, and there is nothing to pull it with. Mr. Q didn't know the way the banana rail was held in. So I called another resource. Mr. Vernon at Mercedes Specialists of Seminary, MS was kind enough to tell me the trick. He said take a ezout and tap it into the pin, then pull on the ezout. I am waiting for the new rail before I pull that pin. Nother trip to HF for a mirror and ezouts. Wired the chain to the cam sprockets in 2 places for each sprocket. marked the chain and sprocket for alignment. Checked to see the cam mark and the cam tower marks lined up on each side, they did, less the degrees of chain stretch. Removed the left sprocket to allow removal of the lower rail. Replaced both rails on the left side, using the trimmed one on top. removed right sprocket. replaced left sprocket, but had to turn crank backwards 10 degrees to get the key to line up. That is where i quit until the rail arrives. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380SL timing chain project
I have the 3/4 set at home, but not here. I just got a 1/2 extension set for $10, cuz I already had the socket, breaker bar and rachet. Has anyone BTDT with the M116 Distributor RR? Anything to watch out for beyond the normal (TDC, Get it back in the right tooth, right rotation in the block, hook up the wores right...) Thanks At 07:23 AM 9/17/2009, you wrote: determined my 1 1/8 deep socket will fit on the crank, but don't have the right extensions. Fortunately, I am doing this job 3 blocks from HF, so it will be easy to get extensions in the am I have their 3/4 socket set, which has two different extensions and two drivers. (1 ratchet, one not.) Along with a full set of sockets from 19mm on up to whatever. Highly recommended for use on MB's, I think that's all I ever use it for. (Crank bolt, fuel tank sender, steering idler arm, etc.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown - was: ChowdahQ and the W115 on
Hard to do with this auto trans crap MBNA keeps cramming down our throats. At 09:46 AM 9/17/2009, you wrote: Even more technical is keep the car in gear and slowly release the clutch until the car stalls. Sent from my iPhone Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown - was: ChowdahQ and the W115 on
On my old 200D (cable shutdown), I unhooked the start,shutoff cable and ran a aux cable into the cabin. Mounted it under the dash and made a pull ring out of a piece of 1.5 square tubing Used that for shutdown. Then I could push in the start switch, lock the ign and steering, lock the car and leave the car idle to run in and out, or if it was really cold out. Starting was normal, but I separated the shutdown function from the multi-purpose push-pull/ignition switch. It worked really well. At 09:50 AM 9/17/2009, you wrote: Yes-my brother ran a cable out under the fender well with a loop to pull shutoff on his 240D. (Now mine with new vacuum pull off switch) Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown - was: ChowdahQ and the W115 on WILTON wrote: I also performed this highly technical feat on my 80 240D many years ago when it had a vac leak. I had long before already read STOP ENGINE emblazoned in red and white on the lever near the IP, so I was ready. Instead of running a hose to the vac shutoff, you could run a wire to the shutoff lever. I never did figure out why my 300SD's shutoff lever takes as much effort as Clay's starter switch, while my 190D and 300D shut off with light finger pressure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tank screen
Hmmm Guess Stanadyne stopped selling their biocide. THat must be why nobody can find it. I bet marinas still have some of biocide. I will try to find more info/sources. That newsletter is dated 2001, and I know I got Stanadyne Biocide in 2005 or so. I could have been that the Diesel shops stocked up before it became NLA. Looks like Stanadyne wimped out in the face of more and more onerous gummit gumups (regulations). There has to be a way. If someone will send me a sample with live algae, I will see what i can find that works. I am sure something available at home despots/lows/maynerds will work. At 12:20 PM 9/17/2009, you wrote: Here is Stanadyne website that describes use and availability of additives, biocides, etc. http://www.stanadyne.com/docs/puba/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20QA%20on%20additives.pdf Gerry From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com It is hard to find. Others have said that marine stores and bigger marinas carry it. I have never seen a Power Service product that was a true biocide. They might have one. Most of what is around here is a fuel treatment but doesn't say it contains a biocide. I need to find some again. It has been too long since i treated my Dissel tanks, and I now have some new fleet members. I used to get it from the Diesel injection shops, but both the owners retired, and both shops closed. Bummer. Stanadyne makes a true Biocide. Most injection systems fail because of black gunk (algae) not because of wear. Until ULSD. I have seen several 20-30 yr old roosa//CAV/Lucas rotary pumps fail when ULSD became the law. Body orings fail, and the pumps leak at body joints. Loren wrote: If the gunk was black, you need to put stanadyne Biocide no biocide at stanadyne website - do you have sourse for stanadyne biocide? only biocide using google is power service - which is fine. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAD 300D 2.5T
Start simple. Sounds like it might be ok at idle to 1200 RPM or so. Change fuel filters. IF the tank is not real full, you might want to check the tank screen. Try that first, if it is ok at low rpm. How long since you tanked up? At 07:16 PM 9/17/2009, you wrote: On the way home today, about 3 miles from home, the '92 300D 2.5T lost power and would only hold 60 mph in third gear, pedal to the floor, spewing grey smoke. Came to a stop light, it idled smoothly and normally. Accelerating when it turned green, the car had little power, started knocking, and running rough at 1600rpm. I could get it up to about 2100-2200rpmmax. Let off the fuel and let it shift to the next higher gear, and it would slowly accelerate up again, same as before. When I got home, I opened the hood, expecting to find the pressure line to the ALDA, etc. off - but it all looks to be in place. With no load, rev'ing the engine results in the shacking, missing, knocking, and lots of smoke (grey) out the back. The smoke smells like raw Diesel. Any ideas where to start trouble shooting? -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090917/bdeab8ce/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biobor
If you read the page, it says Biobor is available in 5 gallon or 55 gallon drums. A pint of the stanadyne stuff was enough to keep several diesels happy for several years. How may gallons will a 5 gallon can treat, and how many years does it take you to use that many gallons of fuel? I use between 1000 and 2500 gallons a year. That is roughly 20k to 50 k a year, depending on the VHickle. But you don't need to treat every tank. Just once in a while in the summer or if you get a load of bad fuel. So a pint is good for several years. 5 gallons would probably last me 100 years. At 09:59 PM 9/17/2009, you wrote: ...http://www.conntect.com/fueladditives/biobor/.. There you are. Debunks that nonsense about being prohibited by the gummint. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090917/8cfae99e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAD 300D 2.5T
Did the car first downshift or start to shift late, before you noticed the loss in power? ON OM603s Auto trans, that is the first sign of a plugged fuel filter. Fuel filters can plug rapidly. The suggestions about air in fuel lines is also quite possible, but in my experience, the first sign of that is longer cranking time on a cold start. Check fuel flow and delivery volume after the filter. If you recently fueled, then that is also an indication you may have bad fuel. Smell the fuel. It may be gasoline or a gasoline mixture. Both tank drivers and dissel car owners have been known to put gasoline in the Dissel tank. If you did not recently fuel, then it still can be a plugged filter. At 07:16 PM 9/17/2009, you wrote: On the way home today, about 3 miles from home, the '92 300D 2.5T lost power and would only hold 60 mph in third gear, pedal to the floor, spewing grey smoke. Came to a stop light, it idled smoothly and normally. Accelerating when it turned green, the car had little power, started knocking, and running rough at 1600rpm. I could get it up to about 2100-2200rpmmax. Let off the fuel and let it shift to the next higher gear, and it would slowly accelerate up again, same as before. When I got home, I opened the hood, expecting to find the pressure line to the ALDA, etc. off - but it all looks to be in place. With no load, rev'ing the engine results in the shacking, missing, knocking, and lots of smoke (grey) out the back. The smoke smells like raw Diesel. Any ideas where to start trouble shooting? -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090917/bdeab8ce/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 380SL timing chain project
Finally got the parts tonight. Chain, Link, tensioner, 4 rails, 2 valve cover gaskets. Don't know yet what else i will need but didn't order. Started removing stuff. It would have been a good time to replace belts, as the WP belts have to be removed to get the PS pump loose to remove the PS mounting plate to be able to get to the chain guide pins. Alt belt has to come off too. Removed air cleaner removed fan and shroud. Really like the old 4 bolt fan as opposed to the newer one bolt taper fit (and bung the radiator and your hands) method. Dumped some antifreeze on the floor while pulling upper radiator hose. Good time for replacing the upper hose too, if your car needs one. Also a good time to change antifreeze. Removed Cruise control servo Removed Rt valve cover Removed Alt Mounting , moved to the side Removed PS pump Removed PS pump bracket determined my 1 1/8 deep socket will fit on the crank, but don't have the right extensions. Fortunately, I am doing this job 3 blocks from HF, so it will be easy to get extensions in the am Determined the Distributor has to be removed to get the upper rail on the Left head (BUMMER) Quit for the night Will determine TDC #1 in the morning; mark everything related to IGN. so it can be put back. (includes match marks on the dist and Dist mounting.) Will probably invest in a steering wheel puller at HF also. The chain rail pins are on recessed surfaces. The front of the heads is not FLAT, like the front of cast iron Diesel blocks. I think the wheel puller bar will span the flats, so that there is enough pull to get started. Not enough flat surface around the pins to use a stack of washers or a socket to pull them with a bolt. Not as easy as I had hoped, however the tensioner is accessible unlike a cast iron Diesel with a yorkie compressor bracket. (or even without) A guy up the road loaned me a tool he invented and made that mounts on the right head and holds the chain tight while you break it and roll in the new chain. Really slick. Will take pictures and post later. He said Snappy sells the tool now. Probably $469. Yeouch! He said the job takes lots of vicegrips and lots of time without the tool. I Sure am glad I bumped into his wisdom before I embarked on this adventure. It is not as easy as an inline MB engine. (old Diesels preferred) I have not determined if any of the guides have broken off and fallen in. The chain DOES show wear on the outside of the links, indicating it is rubbing somewhere. a sure sign of worn chain and maybe worn out rails. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tank screen
It is hard to find. Others have said that marine stores and bigger marinas carry it. I have never seen a Power Service product that was a true biocide. They might have one. Most of what is around here is a fuel treatment but doesn't say it contains a biocide. I need to find some again. It has been too long since i treated my Dissel tanks, and I now have some new fleet members. I used to get it from the Diesel injection shops, but both the owners retired, and both shops closed. Bummer. Stanadyne makes a true Biocide. Most injection systems fail because of black gunk (algae) not because of wear. Until ULSD. I have seen several 20-30 yr old roosa//CAV/Lucas rotary pumps fail when ULSD became the law. Body orings fail, and the pumps leak at body joints. At 10:17 PM 9/16/2009, you wrote: Loren wrote: If the gunk was black, you need to put stanadyne Biocide no biocide at stanadyne website - do you have sourse for stanadyne biocide? only biocide using google is power service - which is fine. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Secret message to John Robbins and Snook
Where's waldo? Near your parents, cuz that 's where the SL is. Not too far form RUss Williams and Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tank screen
If the gunk was black, you need to put stanadyne Biocide in the tank per instruction on the package. At 09:20 PM 9/15/2009, you wrote: My son did the work, and we changed the fuel tank screen tonight. The old one was quite gunked up. We unscrewed the hose from off the screen and fuel barely dribbled out. Socket would fit on the screen nut, but not able to get a handle onto the socket as the half shaft was in the way. The solution was to use a chisel, so the old screen got a bit bunged up. After a few hits with chisel, fuel started coming out in steady stream - about 2 gallons. Are you supposed to remove the half shaft to get to the tank screen? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] assist with diagnosis on no start
Starting fluid = bad Unless you like spending time and money for prechambers. (or enjoy hearing the prechamber ends or balls bouncing around it the cylinder until they go out the exhaust valve or get embedded on the piston top. Test the glowplugs, change the bad ones., could also be a bad relay, and no glowing at all. At 09:23 PM 9/15/2009, you wrote: I ONCE again MISS Marshall. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM, drcscru...@aol.com wrote: The car (300sd) is hard to start. My thought is it is the glow plugs? The glow plug light comes on and goes off (like it is supposed to do) but will not start without just a puff of starter fluid. After the engine has warmed up it starts without hesitation. It seems to run well after starting, tho I don't think the turbo is kicking in when it is supposed to do so (vacuum issue?). Anyway, I got this car for the engine (rust bucket) as it seemed to run pretty well, but is too slooow or non start (without assist). -- DPAD. The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090915/95b48a53/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux webserver botnet pushes malware
My point exactly. Every OS is vulnerable in some way. (Many ways) You tried to worm out by saying the malware was not a virus. THen you went on to say they probably installed a rootkit. It is malware, and malware is malware, whether some piece of it is legit or not. Linux is vulnerable to malware. Those who claim otherwise are fools. Whether the malware is technically a virus or not is immaterial. At 04:49 AM 9/14/2009, you wrote: The infected machines/vm's were probably behind on software updates. Linux still has that fatal flaw called the user, if the user doesn't update when a bug is found and patched, then the system stays vulnerable. In all, what probably happened was a service on the servers was vulnerable in some way, the attacker rooted the box, and then installed nginx(which is not a virus, it's a legit web server) on a non-standard port, and Bob's your uncle, you got a place to serve whatever ya want. Just my 2 cents. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Uh, Wonko, what was that about no virus on linux. We all know it is invincible because it is open source... RIGHT! WHO IS THIS REALLY? (Noah) At 03:23 PM 9/12/2009, you wrote: Attack of the open source zombies ... A security researcher has discovered a cluster of infected Linux servers that have been corralled into a special ops botnet of sorts and used to distribute malware to unwitting people browsing the web. Each of the infected machines examined so far is a dedicated or virtual dedicated server running a legitimate website, Denis Sinegubko, an independent researcher based in Magnitogorsk, Russia, told The Register. But in addition to running an Apache webserver to dish up benign content, they've also been hacked to run a second webserver known as nginx, which serves malware. What we see here is a long awaited botnet of zombie web servers! A group of interconnected infected web servers with [a] common control center involved in malware distribution, Sinegubko wrote here. To make things more complex, this botnet of web servers is connected with the botnet of infected home computer(s). The finding highlights the continuing evolution of bot herders as they look for new ways to issue commands to the hundreds of thousands of infected zombies under their control. It came the same day anti-virus provider Symantec reported Google Groups was being used as a master control channel for a recently discovered trojan. Four weeks ago, a researcher from Arbor Networks made a similar discovery when he found several Twitter profiles being used to run a botnet.snip http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/12/linux_zombies_push_malware/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux webserver botnet pushes malware
You are technically right. But for most of us the distinction between malware and software used to install malware is a distinction without a meaningful difference. Nice explanation. I bestow on you one of my highly coveted detail awards otherwise known as the anal retentive award. It is the highest honor I bestow in the IT world. I have not given one out for years! One guy earned one with such high distinction that no awards have been given since. He became the reigning king, and the monthly awards were ceased, because all contestants concurred that nobody could beat him. Congratulations. (That is serious and sincere.) You seriously and sincerely gave a great explanation! I apologize for using the shortcut. I tend to group malware of any form and the distribution of such all under the term malware. In my outlook, legit software used for malicious purpose is still malware. Technically, you are correct. From the perspective of the result, it really doesn't matter if legit software is used for malicious purpose or if it was malicious software, the result is still a malicious attack. That is my shortcut. Probably you are right about not updated, but then there are all the things that some updates break, and that leaves most of us jaded and reluctant to install updates, particularly on the winders platform. I have advocated on Windows to not install a SP until the next SP is out. By then , the patches may be patched enough to not cause big problems. It is scary out there. Using a Non-M$ platform is one defense, but that defense is not infallible as many have claimed. Using a non-M$ browser is another defense, but there are still lots of vulnerabilities and attacks not addressed by those two strategies. At 12:38 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: I didn't try to worm-out of it, I was just correcting the article's mistake in saying that the webserver that was installed was mallware. It was just the means of putting the malware on the net. When I said they rooted the box, I was referring to gaining access to the root account, analogous to the admin account on windows, which is usually done through an escalation of privileges that is brought around by a buffer overflow or some other vulnerability in a piece of software that is running on the machine. My apologies for not clarifying that in the original message. It would be like someone doing the reboot to safe-mode admin account workaround on XP home edition, creating a new administrator account, logging into that account, and then enabling remote desktop and sharing a folder on your computer that was filled with malware. In that case, there was no root kit installed, no malware installed, and yet there still was a security breach. It's not technically a virus, or malware that got them in, it was a clever exploitation of a vulnerability, that may or may not have been there because of a lack of upkeep and maintenance. I agree, every system is vulnerable in some way, some systems are just more hardened than others, and Linux/Unix/Mac are currently more secure, on average, than windows.(at least XP through 3.1, vista made some small leaps with UAC, and I can't speak for windows 7) But again, in the end, it comes down to the user/sysadmin keeping the system up to date and patched. For the record I am a Linux user, and therefore am slightly biased, but I try to keep my opinions out of matters and deal with the facts. I hope nothing I've said comes across as arrogant or leaves the wrong impression. On 9/14/09, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: My point exactly. Every OS is vulnerable in some way. (Many ways) You tried to worm out by saying the malware was not a virus. THen you went on to say they probably installed a rootkit. It is malware, and malware is malware, whether some piece of it is legit or not. Linux is vulnerable to malware. Those who claim otherwise are fools. Whether the malware is technically a virus or not is immaterial. At 04:49 AM 9/14/2009, you wrote: The infected machines/vm's were probably behind on software updates. Linux still has that fatal flaw called the user, if the user doesn't update when a bug is found and patched, then the system stays vulnerable. In all, what probably happened was a service on the servers was vulnerable in some way, the attacker rooted the box, and then installed nginx(which is not a virus, it's a legit web server) on a non-standard port, and Bob's your uncle, you got a place to serve whatever ya want. Just my 2 cents. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Uh, Wonko, what was that about no virus on linux. We all know it is invincible because it is open source... RIGHT! WHO IS THIS REALLY? (Noah) At 03:23 PM 9/12/2009, you wrote: Attack of the open source zombies ... A security researcher has discovered a cluster of infected
Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange
Sounds like a plan. However, my supply of new and used parts just got drastically smaller. At 07:10 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote: If you want a easy to access place to list used parts, Yahoo Groups is pretty easy to set up - I can create a group for OkieBenz if needed - the only downside is people need to subscribe to a Group before gaining full access but the groups offer lots of flexibility in what can be posted. A folder for parts available would be super easy - if you see something you want, just email the owner and make a deal. Then the owner removes the sold part from the group folder and that takes care of maintenance. It would also be available for non-okie members to join also so you may end up with a larger audience for selling parts. Let me know if you want me to create a Yahoo Group for a parts sales tool. Someone would need to monitor things to make sure it stays accurate and doesn't get hit with spam - I can monitor who joins the group is you wish - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange You can always post what you have for sale to the list. As for a message board sort or deal, that would be great as well, and can be added to Okiebenz. I wonder if my couple of free labor web guys might know how to do that, or anybody else for that matter. Loren Faeth wrote: I have been cleaning house, garage, and so forth, and I am amazed at the pile of unused, new parts I have accumulated, along with used stuff to fit 110, 111,108, 107. 115, 123, 124 and 126 cars. Fleabay is worthless Craigslist is now spamlist, you get at least 10 spams for every real reply you get, and it is hard to pick out the real replies. Nobody looks at ioffer and other would-be fleabay competitors There is a lot of talent on the list. Others on the list surely have the same type of stuff laying around. And then there is Kaleb. Here is my proposal: We need a free place to list new and used parts for sale, open to anyone to buy, but only for list members (or ?) to sell Pay by paypal. It is simple (yeah, I know, it is fleabay, but it is simple and it works) If it gets really successful, we could also add an auction format, so that when getting rid of something is more important than price, we could list it and let the fun begin. Anybody interested? Anybody willing to work on the website? I could host it, or perhaps Kaleb might want to, or someone else can. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 06:40:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/eb864a7a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)
I will sell mine for $900 this week. Would not have sold it for $900 last week. In fleabay parlance: needs some buffing At 09:48 PM 9/11/2009, you wrote: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.html to contact the person who posted this. -- 1987 mercedes wagon Date: 2009-09-11, 8:11PM 1987 Mercedes Benz Wagon 6cylynder Turbo Diesel 300TD power steering Driverside airbag all leather seats interior seats 8 262,474 mls cooper lifeliner GLS tires 195/65/R15 aluminum alloy stock rims Good carfax report on service $900oo or Best Offer!!! CALL-(603) 479-3375 * Location: fremont, nh * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/b29095be/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux webserver botnet pushes malware
Uh, Wonko, what was that about no virus on linux. We all know it is invincible because it is open source... RIGHT! WHO IS THIS REALLY? (Noah) At 03:23 PM 9/12/2009, you wrote: Attack of the open source zombies ... A security researcher has discovered a cluster of infected Linux servers that have been corralled into a special ops botnet of sorts and used to distribute malware to unwitting people browsing the web. Each of the infected machines examined so far is a dedicated or virtual dedicated server running a legitimate website, Denis Sinegubko, an independent researcher based in Magnitogorsk, Russia, told The Register. But in addition to running an Apache webserver to dish up benign content, they've also been hacked to run a second webserver known as nginx, which serves malware. What we see here is a long awaited botnet of zombie web servers! A group of interconnected infected web servers with [a] common control center involved in malware distribution, Sinegubko wrote here. To make things more complex, this botnet of web servers is connected with the botnet of infected home computer(s). The finding highlights the continuing evolution of bot herders as they look for new ways to issue commands to the hundreds of thousands of infected zombies under their control. It came the same day anti-virus provider Symantec reported Google Groups was being used as a master control channel for a recently discovered trojan. Four weeks ago, a researcher from Arbor Networks made a similar discovery when he found several Twitter profiles being used to run a botnet.snip http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/12/linux_zombies_push_malware/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Yup! I grabbed a aforementioned Portrait monitor at the univ junk sale, (it was already OLD then) then donated it to the lady (maybe 12 years ago) who edited my thesis and dissertation. She could do stuff on the small monitor, like email and daily grind stuff, while she had a word file up on the portrait editing two full size pages at a time. It increased her productivity so much she didn't charge for my dissertation. She cried when she was no longer able to use that monitor! It is only recently with big widescreen flat monitors that two pages at a time on one monitor became realistic again. At 12:03 PM 9/10/2009, you wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Six slots, any or all of which could be filled with a video card, with OS support to use them to display a single contiguous workspace regardless of the size or resolution of the monitors attached. I remember in 1987 being blown away by a floor display at an Apple dealer of a Mac II with four or five monitors gratuitously attached simultaneously---some large, some small, some color, some B/W (the late, lamented 2-bit grayscale Apple Portrait Display, I believe). This was 15 years or so before Windows machines could reliably offer this feature, and I don't think anyone really grokked its significance at the time except Photoshop users, who soon cottoned to the idea of putting your document window on one big monitor and your toolbars, palettes, etc. on a second, smaller one. Some people are only just now getting it---you still see articles and blog entries in the corporate IT press with titles like Use Two Monitors For Greater Productivity! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange
Seems to me that Kaleb would be the largest poster, and thereby it should benefit him. I keep finding new parts I didn't remember I had. My thought is that the people approved for posting should be able to fill in a form online with price, description and contact info. Then the software should convert that to a posting with disguised or hidden email address as in craigslist, or fleabay. Maybe a monthly reminder to posters that they should review their listings and delete what is sold. Or it could be coercive: if you don't review, you posting is automatically deleted after 10 days. Automation is the key. There would have to be rules for use Maybe one for no commercial postings, except for the list-dad Maybe an embargo on new subscribers to the list from advertising for X months, to prevent people (spammers) from signing up just to advertise stuff. It would require some volunteer time to approve listings and such, unless someone figures out a way to make money form it. I am not inclined to used dickarde's rapacious rates to hurst and Rusty to fund the project. At 08:44 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Sounds like a win, win to me if Kaleb goes along. I would not be for it if his business suffers, after all, he provides this list. Figure a way to help fund the list with money from each sell. Hmmm, sounds like another tax. Harry Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors
I used not only zip drives but also the syquest EZ135 competing technology. Never any problems. Zip was really weird on Wintel because it was ISA or PCI, but showed up as a scsi device. On Macs, it was just another SCSI device. I still have a bunch of that stuff too, but there is no market, so I will keep it so long as I have old Macs with SCSI. At 01:09 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done Did anyone ever really *use* them? I remember a year or two where most PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using them. I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating disks or refusing to eject them, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Gasoline Prices]
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Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Yeah, I forgot about those, because they were $$O expensive. I guess the IISi seemed like the first separate monitor mac to me because it was the first semi-affordable one. At that time I was still running on my IIGS At 11:24 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Loved that thing. The IIfx was the Bomb though. Used funky RAM, 64 pin, and I had mine decked out with all slots full of 16meg sticks. Radius cards and extra SCSI. clay On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] first impressions on snow leopard
Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Parts exchange
I have been cleaning house, garage, and so forth, and I am amazed at the pile of unused, new parts I have accumulated, along with used stuff to fit 110, 111,108, 107. 115, 123, 124 and 126 cars. Fleabay is worthless Craigslist is now spamlist, you get at least 10 spams for every real reply you get, and it is hard to pick out the real replies. Nobody looks at ioffer and other would-be fleabay competitors There is a lot of talent on the list. Others on the list surely have the same type of stuff laying around. And then there is Kaleb. Here is my proposal: We need a free place to list new and used parts for sale, open to anyone to buy, but only for list members (or ?) to sell Pay by paypal. It is simple (yeah, I know, it is fleabay, but it is simple and it works) If it gets really successful, we could also add an auction format, so that when getting rid of something is more important than price, we could list it and let the fun begin. Anybody interested? Anybody willing to work on the website? I could host it, or perhaps Kaleb might want to, or someone else can. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro
I am sure Ed Ebel or someone there will be helpful. They probably gave up on helping Roger! At 01:21 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote: The GPS antenna comes with it... This was a take-out from some other MB. Nothing but the bare head unit. No instructions, no connectors, no antennae, etc. I'm surprised that Becker NA wouldn't be helpful. I haven't tried contacting them yet, I just got the thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 821 00 47 relay
nope you want it? At 11:19 AM 9/5/2009, you wrote: On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:41:30 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: I have a non-working multi-function relay, 210 821 00 47, available to anyone who wants to try diagnosis and repair , or has a use for the remainder of the circuitry. In the 124, it is the turn signal relay. This one does not run the turn signals, but the other 2 relays may be functional. If you want it, send me your address off-list. Loren, Has there been any interest in this? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel tank screen hose
lift pump is an old British name for a fuel pump. (Gasser or Diesel) It is used by many folks around diesels (and Mechanically injected engines) to describe the transfer pump or low pressure pump that moves fuel from the tank to the filter and thence to the IP. In the Bosch nomenclature It is known as a transfer pump Since they made the parts, I tend to use the term Transfer pump. At 10:58 AM 9/4/2009, you wrote: right, got it. (i should know better than try to type while the coffee's still brewing!) may be i just got distracted by the concept of referring to a pump that sits *above* the tank and at the furthermost downstream portion of the fuel line as a lift pump,... just seems odd. cheers! e OK Don wrote: That's what Max said - disconnect the return line and use it to pump out the fuel. seems like if one were to want to use the vehicles own pump to empty the tank, the only possibility would be to use the return line. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Because there is a supply line and a return line; the lift pump applies suction on supply line and provides pressurized fuel (about 10 to 15 psi) to the filter then to the IP, and whatever fuel is not used by the IP is returned to the fuel tank via the return line. Max -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090904/44b41f7b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090904/7528b07c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Banjo bolt - Fuel filter
If you order a filter from Rusty, they generally come with the orings. Pull the bolt, replace the orings on the bolt. At 09:48 AM 9/4/2009, you wrote: Wasn't there a discussion a while back about whether or not the spin on fuel filter had an o-ring or not. Has anyone ever ordered one with the o-ring? I have a leak somewhere in my 300D and it started the last time i changed filters. Mine does not currently have the o-ring. Mike 83 300D fuel filter leak repair tip If you are having trouble stopping the fuel leak at the bolt on top of the fuel filter(the big one that holds the filter on), I have a solution. You can buy a new filter housing and a new bolt from Mercedes. This new bolt has an o-ring at the top that seats in the bore of the new housing. Works great. It should have been designed this way to begin with! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090904/45f89e7d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 210 821 00 47 relay
I have a non-working multi-function relay, 210 821 00 47, available to anyone who wants to try diagnosis and repair , or has a use for the remainder of the circuitry. In the 124, it is the turn signal relay. This one does not run the turn signals, but the other 2 relays may be functional. If you want it, send me your address off-list. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Banjo bolt - Fuel filter
He was, and I was. Thespin-on filter comes with orings for the hollow bolt. (Provided that you buy German filters, such as Rusty sells.) At 08:05 PM 9/4/2009, you wrote: Loren wrote: If you order a filter from Rusty, they generally come with the orings. Pull the bolt, replace the orings on the bolt. I think he is talking about the spin on fuel filter. mao Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
