Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Beauty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Yes and I would snatch it up if I were in a position to buy another car! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is a nice car. It;s probably worth at least that much in certain markets. Dimitri, Are you watching this…….? On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors
Lumber yards dominate in Maine. Much better selection, quality and price than Lowes/HD. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad, we have a fair amount of local yards, one within 1/2 mile of my house even. They focus on service and seem to be doing pretty well. -Curt From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors There aren't many of those left around here - mostly specialty wood for furniture makers. Lowest and Home Despot have driven the rest out of business . . . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist Search
Searchtempest.com Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm trying to find a way to search the local area CL for multiple MB listings. Using saved searches on CL works, but it's sort of a PITA to have to click through all of them. I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a third party application or web site that will do the same and possibly even email me when there's a hit on something. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
The leaf is for pussies. Real men drive diesels:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: List price right at $30k. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege I'm not at all adversed to an electric vehicle, and my commute would be perfect for one. I have a problem with the up front costs. How much was it? Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Clear chowder is preferable to me but difficult to find. Legal Seafoods used to serve it as a light clam chowder and it was very good. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes. The first time I have ever seen RI clear chowdah recognized alongside New England white the red. We make the white milk chowdah for the Q. I am going to try out my new knee digging tomorrow so we will have plenty for the Q. On Aug 13, 2014 8:27 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fwd: The Clam Chowder Wars - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/the-clam-chowder-wars.html?nlid=37044079src=recpb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
No Name is still around -at least as of a couple of years ago. I know the owners and many of the waitstaff for at least 23 years. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think it sold out or moved or something a long time ago, this was back when it was just a dive, you did not want to examine stuff too closely, but the fish was fresh off the boats that tied up right there, and the atmosphere was priceless. --R On 8/13/14 3:16 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: NO Name is a don't miss for best seafood in boston. Fresh, down home. But not as interesting as you describe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Definitely not yuppified. Same old no name. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's probably yuppified by now and charges $15 for a cup of chowdah. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Good story; close to pro literary. Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when there was a dive place called the No Name that was down on the fish pier where the boats came in, tied up right outside the back door of the place. It was just a door in the building, no sign or anything, hence No Name. It was run by a bunch of crazy Greeks, usually a line out the door and down the pier. My mom and grandmother came to visit me once so I took them down there for lunch, was not too busy. You could bring your own beer and wine and such, but you had to watch they wouldn't take it and drink it. My grandmother asked if they had something or other that was on the menu, the waiter turns around and walks out the back door to where a boat was unloading and comes back with a fish and asked her if that one was OK. At that point she just sorta nodded, the waiter yells at one of the cooks in Greek, he turns around and the waiter tosses the fish to him, tells my grandmother it will be ready in a few minutes. She was pretty much catatonic at that point. So my mom and grandmother are sitting there eating, we ordered whatever, I had scallops I think. There were two people at the table next to us, they were ordering and one of them asked How are the scallops? The waiter grabs her fork, reaches over and stabs one off my plate, and gives it to her and says, Try it. My mom and grandmother just about died, and I was like, this is just how it is. The waiter dropped a little plate of something on the table after, saying Here eat this. I went down there with some girl once, took a big bottle of cheap wine, Gallo something that was in like a half gallon bottle. So we are sitting there, drinking wine waiting for our orders, the waiter walks over with a glass and pours one for himself, walks away. OK. Then he comes over a little while later with 2 glasses, refills his and fills another one and gives it to someone at another table. It was classic. When we left we gave him the rest of the bottle, the cooks were all over it like crazy. It was best to sit by the counter where the cooks were, you could sorta engage with them, most spoke only Greek, but they would give you small plates of stuff they were cooking. I went with a buddy once for lunch, it was closed, which was unusual. So we walked to the back on the water side of the pier where the boats were, and the door was open, a few people were in there so we went in and sat down. My buddy sorta knew the owner or manager or whatever as he had been going there a long time. He asked what was going on, the guy says Immigration had come that morning and rounded up all his kitchen guys to deport them. He said they would be back in a few days no matter what, so for now they just had the back door open and his cousin or something was doing the cooking. Legal was in an old ratty building in Inman Sq, the original caught fire and burned down. There was a newer one in Cambridge, when my wife was like 11months preggers with our daughter she was going crazy so on a Saturday night we went there for supper. I ordered the spicy calamari, which was awesome, we both had some. Next morning about 4:30 the baby announces herself, and off to the hospital we go. We always tell her it was Legal's spicy calamari that did it. That one and the one downtown were OK, all the others were just sorta franchise kind of places. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Septembah 13. We can eat at no name as Dwight suggests;) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remind me of the date again, please? Dimitri needs an excuse to invite me to dinnah. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Come to the Q then taste no name's the next day. On Aug 14, 2014 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need to get to Bahstun sometime again and check it out --R On 8/14/14 1:45 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Definitely not yuppified. Same old no name. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's probably yuppified by now and charges $15 for a cup of chowdah. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Would have worked great when I lived 17 miles from work. That would have given me enough excess capacity to use the climate control without overly discharging the battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars
I actually like the Aztek. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a wooden car, such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330120a7d30e2d970b-700wi ** During the 1990s, hydrogen was seen as the alternative fuel of the future. Then, biofuels and compressed air took over its mantle role, while today all the attention is focused on electric cars. If this technology fails, too (and many have serious doubts about it), can we go back to the wood gas car? Despite its industrial appearance, a wood gas car scores rather well from an ecological viewpoint when compared to other alternative fuels. Wood gasification is slightly more effiicient than wood burning, as only 25 percent of the energy content of the fuel is lost. The energy consumption of a woodmobile is around 1.5 times higher than the energy consumption of a similar car powered by gasoline (including the energy lost during the pre-heating of the system and the extra weight of the machinery). If the energy required to mine, transport and refine oil is also taken into account, however, then wood gas is at least as efficient as gasoline. And, of course, wood is a renewable. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Now don't get all redneck on us now! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of chowder. More later, as we have work out the logistics. I’ll be coming from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine. How many watts does a Crock Pot draw? Can you power one from a lighter socket inverter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
It's confirmed. Curt is our resident redneck!!;) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is completely un-redneck. Redneck would be to heat it with a torch. -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q Now don't get all redneck on us now! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of chowder. More later, as we have work out the logistics. I’ll be coming from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine. How many watts does a Crock Pot draw? Can you power one from a lighter socket inverter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 68 280SL
Except that black is a horrible color on that car. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday evening I went to the farm stand to get some stuff, I see this beautiful black 280SL sitting there. As I was getting out of my truck the owner and another guy come to it, I get talking to him. He said he had had it a long time. The thing looked brand new. 4 speed, brown interior about the same as my SDs. To die for. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 68 280SL
Yeah because it's a horrible shade for that car! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It must have been, although come to think of it, I've never seen a W113 in black. On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was black available as a color back then? Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:35 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's why I'm gonna hafta let it go. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
That's cuz people drive big fat Caddys in Florida:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've tried to do a FL-Q and I can't get anyone to come. And in the winter, to boot! I have a great private park for it, too. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You could always start NJ-Q. Its easy, the first one I set up I didn't even go to :) -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q I'd love to go, but timing is always bad. My birthday is on the 11th, and this year our second child is due on the 12th, pretty much making it impossible to make it to future events. Can we just move the whole thing to Morristown, NJ? I'll host! Jaime On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of chowder. More later, as we have work out the logistics. I’ll be coming from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Steel fuel line
Where do I get it? My 240D has a percorated (rust) line that runs under the car. Auto zone and Advance don't sell it. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Classic car stock
I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Prius drivers are cows in a herd! Hahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 49 mpg! wow i rented a kia soul recently and really liked it On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] nice 240D stick
No way. Cactus green is a winner color! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2014, at 12:54 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, noticed that, too. Hood looks slightly low at left, front corner and slightly high at left, rear corner. I like the ivory color better than the cactus green on my '80 240D (deceased at 18 years and 185 kmi in collision with un-insured, ragged pickup). Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com; Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice 240D stick Air gap between left front fender and hood is wrong, maybe that fender was replaced at some point. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 6, 2014 9:51 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4644758114.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Finally, someone else who calls it a priapism!!! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:40 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Neighbors have priapisms. I rode in one around town. It is not a nice car. Second gen, and lower quality build than first gen (Grandma got one a decade or more ago). They are doing the same cost cutting that MBZ does clay On Sep 5, 2014, at 4:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I have never ridden in a Prius, but when looking at them from the outside always figured the ride would be harsh due to the small diameter wheels and short wheelbase. With that little distance between axles the chop from any road disturbance would have to be nasty. Say what you want, I love the W126 and W140 cars for long haul cruising. I drove the new W140 over 1,000 miles in under 24 hours and felt relaxed and refreshed. No sore back/butt, etc. Not many cars can do this nowadays. Dan On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Depends upon condition. If the rust is merely surface which the owner claims but I doubt then it's probably worth the asking price. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1973 Mercedes Benz 280se 4.5 http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4658341271.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius and changing subjects
Not all electric cars are fruity. The Prius on the other hand Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Ahem* Generalizations aren't always correct. (I drive an electric car; as previously discussed, it is perfect for the needs I lease it for... I'm definitely not a fruit, although I suppose whether or not I am a nut might be a matter for debate...) Btw, it costs me about $4 per hundred miles in energy costs; the average consumption in the first 720 miles, including my learning how to optimize my driving, and some driving by those who haven't figured out the magic of regenerative braking, is 3.5 mi/kWh. I am regularly getting 3.9-4.3 mi/kWh these days. The estimated range is 80-85mi (EPA is 63). I can't complain about it at all, especially being able to park and squeeze through impossible spots! I'll still take one of the W210.025's for any long trip or where there is need for more than 2 seats. OB MB content: The electric car is a smart ED. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 10, 2014, at 14:02, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: those electro cars are owned by fruits and nuts On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Let me suggest that apples and peaches have little to do with a Prius. RB On 09/09/2014 10:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure there is at least one heritage and heirloom apple site on the internet, with pictures. You can indeed identify your tree by the apples. My boss up in Canada had some trees up the hill behind the house that I think were SnowQueen or Famouse (sp) -- one of the original named apples from ether England or France. The house was originally built before the American Revolution (Sailor's Encampment on St. Joseph's Island, Ontario), and I suspect from the condition and appearent age of the trees, they had been there since the place was built. Bright but darkish red skin with pronounced red streaks in the flesh, small, and the best tasting apples I've ever eaten. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
How could people live with themselves being such cows? I'd rather pull a Robin Williams. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 9/8/14 4:42 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: There are an excess of the blue ones roaming my roads. Sometimes it looks like parade day on the freeway with them all lined up. I think the placement of the Obama sticker or the stick figure family is the only way to tell one from the other clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Volt? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I thought w115s were tough??!! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of-motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Haha. I knew someone would say that Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You're out of oil? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice Universal
Yup will prob go for 30K Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm in lust. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/14/unusually-dry-1966-mercedes-benz-230-w110-universal/ Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
No I'm not living on the moon! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My bet is that the gravity field in his drive way has weakened, and if he parks somewhere else, oil will resume leaking. I've observed this phenomena before, a more typical manifestation is a mobile cancellation, which causes the car to get 40+ mpg and a side effect is that the air blows ICE COLD. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 15, 2014 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
No. No time warps, no driveways on the moon!!! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The last time you ordered a glow plug relay they shipped a flex capacitor instead. But really, can a 240d even get up to 88mph? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not driving a freakin' Delorean!! I do like gullwings though:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No the real reason is he accidentally drove thru a time vortex and he is back in 1982. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] At least one good choice
They forgot to mention that the 350 is a rodbender and that the Miata is just a worthless tin can. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/the-ultimate-two-car-garage-for-10k-1634932769 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Daimler
Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age it would become the laughing stock of auto manufacturers. However, something in the spirit of a 240D might work. Simple, really well built and economical. Volkswagen kind of does it with the Jetta diesel. Why can't Mercedes do it with a C class or CLA or B? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: and the amzing thing is that for all the talk of people wanting that here, you'd hardly sell any if you did On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ha, good response. As much as we'd like them to put 240D's back into production and sell them for $18,000, I don't think its going to happen. Jaime On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that is the result of market research and actual customer preferences. I don't think that this group represents the average new MB buyer. We are indeed, a relatively odd lot . . . . On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect there was considerable leakage of junk gizmo flashy crap into Mercedes from Chrysler. The new cars are NOT like the old ones, rather tinny, full of electronic toys of dubious utility and designed in failure. And they are UGLY and very hard to see out of. Peter -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
Brown is for rockstars! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Since when is brown the color of luxury? All shades of brown and tan are IMHO plebeian. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/forget-the-maybach-the-600-is-the- ultimate-mercedes-be-1640468490 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Preservation class
And where do you have your car judged? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:18 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: MBCA is trying to promote not buggering up old cars. This is a new promotion that allows you to have the car looked at in a concours sort of manner to verify condition and that it is being kept sort of pure. You get leeway for headlights, some other stuff. As long as you score above 75%, you get a nice framable certificate. Come back each year to show you are still a good person worthy of owning a Benz clay On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: What's a preservation class certificate? Dan On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate. Nice enough. Has a picture of the car and all. Seems I have not buggered it up beyond salvation in the past three years. Now I just have to get it running properly. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We are ***!!
It's a Korean car. It was worthless when new. It could not have possibly appreciated from worthless now that it's used. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2014, at 11:44 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I decided not to share the pain of trying to get rid of SWMBA's korean car. It has nothing to do with mercedes, other than she sold the E300 and got this, and I want to put the R107 in the garage instead of the korean car. Two months this thing has been taking up space. Constantly renewing CL posting. Lowering asking price in an attempt to spark interest. Rejecting offensively low offers and know it alls who try to tell me how to sell it better. Getting very low trade in offers for the thing that are below what was offered when she was purchasing a replacement. I knew this was a turd on wheels when she got it. SO, this weekend, I get a guy who makes a low ball email offer without seeing the car. He is looking at same model two or more years older and almost twice the miles, making same price bid as the older cars. Then another guy, never considered a korean car shows interest and makes appointment to see it yesterday, but flakes. Lowball larry and Flaky fred reschedule to see the car today. Low ball is here first, does test drive, reviews file with all paper since new. Makes a higher low ball offer which I counter with SWMBA's lowest allowed price. He walks. I go grocery shopping, having not heard from Fred after telling him Larry did not purchase. Flaky Fred calls me while I am mid grocery trip and says he is at my front door. Dang! While I drive over, Larry texts that he will up the offer a few hundred. I text that I am meeting another interested party, and take Fred for a test drive. Fred is kicking tires and might call back after I tell him Larry has made another offer. And, I return to shopping trip so I can make dinner. While driving home, Larry calls and says he is really interested and wants to review the file in the morning so he can chat up the dealership about extended warrantee SWMBA got that covers the car out to 2020 instead of the short time standard off the lot. He also wants all manner of paperwork, since SWMBA is no longer living in the state. I play along, and juggle the cats so this deal will maybe go through. I had reposted the car this morning, since the listing expired, and with felines in the air, hissing and spitting, another guy responds to the listing. Two months, nobody wants this car, now I have three guys in 48 hours with a chub for the car. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't we have a list for that kind of behavior? Go play games over there. -Curt Who has refrained from talking about the metalwork he did yesterday on the Jetta to keep things on topic. From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 1:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] We are ***!! Dan wrote: I totally agree with the we are all adults here Thanks, mom - but ***-off. If we are adults here, let us kill each other. I agree with Gerry - ban me also, if you will. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Cameron Air Show
That was insane! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks - I have seen videos of some of those acts, but not all. I used to enjoy mild aerobatics, but always maintained 3000' between myself and the ground - at the lowest part of the maneuver. Call me chicken, but there are no old, bold pilots (or very few anyway, Bob Hoover comes to mind). On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If aviation is not a verboten topic. These guys are nuts: http://vimeo.com/100670266 I always felt that, when airborne, the ground is not your friend until the flare. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Motor mounts
A friend is looking for motor and tranny mounts for his 78 240D. I'm hearing lately that the OEM are crap and that one should buy OE. Is there a particular OEM brand that is acceptable for this kind of part or must he bite the OE Mercedes bullet? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 Limo
I like the w115 euro limos. All class:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd prefer one of those 240D limos. On Oct 26, 2014 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: With it or in it? On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Pretty much hideous, but I could see having it, and doing something vulgar with it. --R On 10/26/14 2:13 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Lng one for sale Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 Limo Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:10:01 -0700 fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 1987 Mercedes Benz 560 Limo http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4717892439.html If you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18yNjc5MTI2N3i_Zmc- vVbafJgCnO2YtTLA4JhTnsP2qylH_KJ_Ir-yEt9DUnwb-UGI0rHJiZFR3Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns/Pistols
Rednecks, all of ya:) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:01 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan, I am not the end all of knowledge, so I defer to any and all greater and better informed to answer your question. My understanding for on line sales which involve interstate movement of the gun sold, or any non-personal contact requires the gun to be sent to a FFL licensed dealer, and the actual transfer then happens under the FFL dealers license, which DOES require a background check and all the BATFE required Federal Forms to be filled out and signed, etc etc etc.. Legally, under present law, I can not ship you a gun. I can however ship one to myself, subject to all the state and federal laws that may apply both in the state I am legally in when I ship, and the state I am legally in when I receive my own weapon. Complicated? yes. I suggest you become acquainted with a writer by name of Alan Korwin [friend of mine] [ http://www.gunlaws.com/ ] who specializes in writing books that address gun laws as they apply in different states and federal laws. If ignorance is bliss, prisons must be a blissful place. Be wise, be knowledgeable, be legal, be responsible, be a gun owner.. in that order.. is how I was taught. HTH, Grant... On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I certainly don't want to wander into the political side of this discussion for obvious reasons, I'm just curious as to the mechanics of such things never having experienced them. If I understand you correctly, sales like those that take place online, such as you would see at gunbroker.com, are considered private sales? I realize they require someone with an FFL to receive the gun, but there is nothing in the way of a background check or anything like that taking place with these transactions, correct? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 29, 2014, at 12:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That discussion will lead instantly to politics, so I would avoid it. At this date, private citizens may buy or sell freely, privately owned items. Prudence however would indicate you protect yourself by asking for some form of ID from the buyer, and a written bill of sale, which documents the sale showing you no longer possess the weapon and it's legal transfer of ownership on said date. Should the weapon be used for less than legal purpose in future you can show proof it was not in your possession at that time. This also protect the buyer, in that any claim the weapon was stolen can be put to rest with a legally executed document of sale. [at least prove YOU didn't steal it]. The term gun show loop hole is a handy 5 sec sound bite phrase used to inflame both sides of the issue. IMHO, the moral equal to yelling fire ! in a crowded theater when there is no fire. If it's legally owned, it can be legally sold. If you buy and sell as a commercial enterprise, you need a FFL and all the paperwork that comes with it under current law, which is all that really counts, all emotions aside. A wise man knows the laws before the prosecutor files the charge against him for inadvertently breaking one. Respectfully, Grant... On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was curious as to how purchases work at gun shows. Depends upon who's selling. If seller has a FFL he has to obey all the checks, waiting periods, etc. If a private citizen, nothing. That's the infamous loophole: private sales. Most of what you would see at a show is not privately held; none of what you would see at a store is. Private 'sales' covers a lot of ground in attempted legislation, things like family purchases, inheritance, gifts, loans, emergency situations, etc. The devil's usually in the details. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Blue W123 carpet set - really?
An attractive shade of blue but not for a car! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Has anyone seen this shade of blue? http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-W123-240-240D-280-300D-300TD-1977-1985-CARPET-SET-BLUE-/321563391305?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4adeabf549vxp=mtr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dimitri's 240D is ready to go!
Oh no another project!:) Actually, a head swap on your 240D might be a quicker fix than the rust repair on my 240D which I started - outside as my new garage is still under construction! I need to get the rust repair done before winter sets in but as it's snowing now it may be too late! So my 240D might have to wait till spring. Your car might be the new daily driver! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got back from LA last night. Angie met me in Boston where we stayed at the Intercontinental. Our room is normally $350/night but I got it for a mere 45,000 Holiday Inn points which is fine I had 180,000 and earned 10,000 more over the last 2 weeks. Nice hotel. We had dinner at a fancy wine bar which was fantastic. Much more fun than my stopping for burritos which is what normally happens on my way back from a trip. Anyway I'd promised to give Dimitri (well trade for a patch piece of 190D fender) my '78 240D of HeadgasketQ fame but haven't found time to deliver it yet. Having the Dodge 1500 should make delivery a breeze. I'm off to deer hunting camp Wednesday and since I'll be driving right by Dimitri's place in Maine I figured it was a good time to deliver so in preparation I decided to get it running today. A couple weeks ago I had put the battery charger on and while it wasn't too thirsty I let it charge over night. I started the same today. In retrospect I should also have plugged in the block heater, its pretty chilly today, oh well. The battery took 2.5 amps on the 6 amp setting of my charger. Experience has taught me that this car tends to have a sticky accelerator linkage after sitting a long time so I started there. As expected the pivot on top of the rocker cover was stuck. I've tried a myriad of fixes for this but today just hit it with sandpaper until it fit good, then polished with steel wool and lubed with PB Blaster. Surprisingly none of the other linkages were sticky. Dug around and found the key, hopped in, gave a good long glow (thank you glow plug button!) and after a false start where the battery charger sitting on the air cleaner was hopping around like a frog in a hot pan it started right up. Of course it blew smoke and wouldn't idle good for a minute or two but on the whole it settled down nicely. Of course the brakes were stuck but once it got moving that was no big thing. Dimitri, make a note to go through the brakes :) Anyway the plan right now is to rent a uhaul Wednesday and cart it to Maine where Dimitri can do what he will. Like all of us I'm sure he needs another project like he needs another armpit. ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.
Thanks Curt! I need to invest a few days now to get this beauty driveable. Do I take the head off and tap out the head bolt holes or do the redneck thing and put a washer under the head bolts. Hmmm. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had formerly been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed flawlessly. We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's lovely 250(?)S. Curt Seems like I should know the model of the car I'm in. Its a lovely car though... Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure gauges
I kinda like the digital ones. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What is your favorite pressure gauge? What type is it (stick, dial, digital, etc.)? How accurate is it? (I'll confess to being a stickler about accuracy.) What is its range? (I'm getting new trailer tires which take 65 psi.) Or do you just not care? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
Failed vacuum pump diaphragm? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off (won't turn off with key). I fiddled with a rubber connector to the brake booster line, and happily the problem disappeared for nearly a week. The issue then resurfaced, but now the following symptoms occur all the time: 1) Power brakes completely gone - must apply extremely forceful pressure on the brake pedal (or petal, if you prefer). 2) Cannot shut off the engine with key - must be done manually 3) Vacuum door locks completely inoperative, even with the engine running. Otherwise, everything else on the car works fine. Whoever is the first to successfully diagnose this problem, based solely on the symptoms enunciated above, wins a coveted ATTABOY. Good luck. Andrew 1983 300TD No brakes, locks or engine shutoff 1985 300TD CA version ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
Driving a Prius into a Starbuck's drive through. Can't get any more douchebaggy:) Would love to see a Jeremy Clarkson run over a priapism in a unimog. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nov 9 at 3:39 PM Mark in Thousand Oaks I'd buy this just to mess with the herd of Prius drivers at the local Starbucks drive through. --R On 11/10/14 8:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Those guys on BAT must be lurking: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/11/09/1964-mack-b-series-road-tractor/ http://bringatrailer.com/2014/11/09/1964-mack-b-series-road-tractor/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 240D rust repair (yes again)
Over the past month I've tackled some major rust in the front passenger side wheel well/shock mount rust. Check it out here: http://www.mbca.org/forum/2014-10-28/w123s-are-tough-rust-repair Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood Floors - solid wood vs. engineered
I agree. Engineered is garbage. It will always have a cheap look to it. The pre finished is nice but it has a subtle bevel and a finish which is too perfect. These both detract in my opinion. The best is solid wood sanded then finished. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:21 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Opinion: Keep the current wood floor you have, which is solid wood, and sand it to a fresh finish. [there are machines you can rent to do that]. Then match the area where you remove carpeting with new solid wood. You can then stain and finish the whole lot the same for a match, without the expense of replacing the existing solid wood, which should have a life span of 50 to 100 years if kept dry and cared for. I have had solid wood floors [installed them myself] and I've had engineered wood floors.. I've always found the engineered wood to look cheap and beaten after a couple years, regardless of how carefully it was cared for... solid wood, however just gathered a nice patina that said.. I'm solid wood and I look it. At one time, I owned 42 rentals, all of which I rehabbed and rented.. I used engineered wood floors in a lot in them, and regretted it when I sold them.. renters are hard use and it showed. Sort of the acid test. My vote would be tile and solid oak. Refinish existing, replace carpet with new solid wood. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'll bet at least one person on this list has an opinion on the topic. Pros and Cons for pre-finished solid wood flooring vs engineered? We're trying to keep the price at $6 / square foot or less, but willing to exceed that if necessary. Major consideration: The new floor must stand up to the weight of three pianos, two uprights and one baby grand. No dogs in the house, just humans and cats. We are trying to decide on new flooring for our downstairs. We've got tile in the kitchen, which we love and aren't going to change. The entryway and connected hallway (and two closets and a half-bathroom) have a solid wood oak floor, 20 years old now but holding up nicely. The rest of the downstairs is carpet, which we hate and it MUST GO. So we've pretty much decided that we'll replace all the carpet and the existing oak floor with new wood. We'd really like to have only two different types of flooring downstairs (tile and wood). The stairwell is carpeted, and ideally that is the only place we'll keep carpeting. However, the bannisters and faux stair edges are in oak to match the entryway. I think we can live with a mis-match between stairs and new wood flooring. -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
I still don't understand why the vast majority of stupid American cows in the herd can't see this. A small engined diesel powered car will outperform a Priapism on all fronts yet they still buy priapisms. Argh!! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah around town... Let's go from Florida to New England and back. My TDI will stomp a Prius for mileage, speed, comfort and price... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
That's cuz pansy ass Priapism driving pussies don't live in ND. Real men drive Mercedes diesels and trucks:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Betcha see a lot more pickups in ND than prii Randy runs a pickup in the winter in Winnipeg. How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
Actually I'm quite fond of quiche. You'd never guess of course since I'm a manly man who drives MB diesels:) I have a softer side too you know. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! Okie Benz had a quotes page at one time. Haven't looked to see if it's still there. Dan who believes he is a real man despite eating quiche Sent from my iPad On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn't we have somewhere to store memorable messages at one time? I nominate this one. RB who drives a Mercedes diesel and a pickup truck (Guess I should avoid eating quiche?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W463 door pocket
I've never seen a g wagen in a junkyard! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Car-part.com I found 5 listings for RF door. Call em up and ask if they will sell the liner or door pocket. 4 are in CA, one in PA. You might also try calling the junkyards around Phoenix and lost wages. I'd expect some gwagens to be crunched in those areas. Need a source for a right front 2005 gwagen door pocket. Used is fine. New ones are $280 or something equally egregious. Thanks Karl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Frost is on the Moose
Moose jerky is quite tasty. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've eaten a lot of moose and its not tough at all unless it was a big old bull or is over cooked. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
Buy a Bosch reman. Can't trust used. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The starter motor in my 1983 300TD wagon is going down the tubes. This morning it wouldn't budge until after I had plugged in the block heater for 10 minutes. At all times it pauses when I engage the ignition key, and then screetches the first couple of seconds upon startup. Clearly I need to do something - but what? My tech says not to buy a Bosch reman starter (says they're way too noisy) but instead to find a good used one. WTF? What does everyone think? Will one from a W126 300SD starter fit? Andrew 1985 300TD dimond blue/blue garage princess 1983 300TD white/blue* en plein air* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
How do you know that starter is not a reman? Can u trust the miles? How many 240D that you know of have 60K miles? Buy new. Labor to R/R must be considered if you have to replace in 6 months. And yes who cares about noisy starters? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm leaning toward a used starter off a 60,000 mile 240 D with a 6 month warranty from PG Auto. Unless someone can personally recommend a good brand of remann'ed starters. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are there no places out there anymore that rebuild your starter? That used to be better than buying rebuilt ones at one time. I know little about MB starters but the old north american stuff was pretty straight forward and easy enough to fix. RB I'd guess somewhere between where Andrew lives and Balt, there is an auto electric shop. My guy retired and had an auction of his stuff. I have had good luck with used since then. If i had to pay for labor, I would certainly buy one reman by Bosch in a yeller box with red printing. The only reman I bought was an advanced auto rebuilt alt. maybe 10-12 years ago. It did just fine. they local guys will use quality parts, where the reman shops will cut corners so long as they return rate does not get too high. Bosch reman is supposed to be same as new quality, but there have been problems reported here. Oh! I'll take that back. I had to buy reman starters for daughter's 107 and for my original SDL, but someone else installed because it was miserably cold. Both were bosch reman. One is still going many many moons later, the other lasted until the car went away a few years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
Why don't u replace it? You can handle the job, after all you can do front end rebuilds;) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm leaning toward a used starter off a 60,000 mile 240 D with a 6 month warranty from PG Auto. Unless someone can personally recommend a good brand of remann'ed starters. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are there no places out there anymore that rebuild your starter? That used to be better than buying rebuilt ones at one time. I know little about MB starters but the old north american stuff was pretty straight forward and easy enough to fix. RB I'd guess somewhere between where Andrew lives and Balt, there is an auto electric shop. My guy retired and had an auction of his stuff. I have had good luck with used since then. If i had to pay for labor, I would certainly buy one reman by Bosch in a yeller box with red printing. The only reman I bought was an advanced auto rebuilt alt. maybe 10-12 years ago. It did just fine. they local guys will use quality parts, where the reman shops will cut corners so long as they return rate does not get too high. Bosch reman is supposed to be same as new quality, but there have been problems reported here. Oh! I'll take that back. I had to buy reman starters for daughter's 107 and for my original SDL, but someone else installed because it was miserably cold. Both were bosch reman. One is still going many many moons later, the other lasted until the car went away a few years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
And carry rear ends and treadmills down and up multiple flights of stairs! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:24 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why don't u replace it? You can handle the job, after all you can do front end rebuilds;) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm leaning toward a used starter off a 60,000 mile 240 D with a 6 month warranty from PG Auto. Unless someone can personally recommend a good brand of remann'ed starters. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are there no places out there anymore that rebuild your starter? That used to be better than buying rebuilt ones at one time. I know little about MB starters but the old north american stuff was pretty straight forward and easy enough to fix. RB I'd guess somewhere between where Andrew lives and Balt, there is an auto electric shop. My guy retired and had an auction of his stuff. I have had good luck with used since then. If i had to pay for labor, I would certainly buy one reman by Bosch in a yeller box with red printing. The only reman I bought was an advanced auto rebuilt alt. maybe 10-12 years ago. It did just fine. they local guys will use quality parts, where the reman shops will cut corners so long as they return rate does not get too high. Bosch reman is supposed to be same as new quality, but there have been problems reported here. Oh! I'll take that back. I had to buy reman starters for daughter's 107 and for my original SDL, but someone else installed because it was miserably cold. Both were bosch reman. One is still going many many moons later, the other lasted until the car went away a few years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
Or ask the French man to do it. Should take him all of five minutes! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:24 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Why don't u replace it? You can handle the job, after all you can do front end rebuilds;) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm leaning toward a used starter off a 60,000 mile 240 D with a 6 month warranty from PG Auto. Unless someone can personally recommend a good brand of remann'ed starters. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Are there no places out there anymore that rebuild your starter? That used to be better than buying rebuilt ones at one time. I know little about MB starters but the old north american stuff was pretty straight forward and easy enough to fix. RB I'd guess somewhere between where Andrew lives and Balt, there is an auto electric shop. My guy retired and had an auction of his stuff. I have had good luck with used since then. If i had to pay for labor, I would certainly buy one reman by Bosch in a yeller box with red printing. The only reman I bought was an advanced auto rebuilt alt. maybe 10-12 years ago. It did just fine. they local guys will use quality parts, where the reman shops will cut corners so long as they return rate does not get too high. Bosch reman is supposed to be same as new quality, but there have been problems reported here. Oh! I'll take that back. I had to buy reman starters for daughter's 107 and for my original SDL, but someone else installed because it was miserably cold. Both were bosch reman. One is still going many many moons later, the other lasted until the car went away a few years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] hi miles
My 73 220D which is in pieces now, has 800K miles:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks Our daughter's 300D turbo 1984 has about 392,000 miles and a working odometer it runs well she got a bunch of the grill mileage badges from mercedes thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S Class in top ten least reliable cars
Replace it with a w204 c class. Those are quite reliable from what I've been hearing. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You should remember that the normal Mercedes maintenance is considered a defect in these surveys. The normal auto buyer in the US thinks that brake pads should last at least 10 years, and changing oil is a biannual sort of thing. A Mercedes is unreliable if it requires service at 20,000 mile intervals, as they NEVER perform any routine maintenance. I've been seeing this for decades. Of course, the Mercedes will last them 30 years, but the typical buyer (most of them are leased now) is bored with the loss of absolute newness in a couple years and want's another one. That said, the newer models are NOT as rock solid as the older ones, excepting the rust issues with the ones made in the late 60's and early 70's with Russian high phosphate steel. Seen any W116s lately? New models have electronic problems, which appear to be getting worse, and suffer from much lower quality build (thank you Chrysler!) and I'm not sure what I'm going to replace my W124's with when they do wear out -- 250k on the TE and 410k on the 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D injectors - success!
Are we going to have a rustQ for your 190? I think I owe you big as I can't get your car to overheat! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Had time today to get the injectors swapped into my '84 190D. A very easy job if you've got a 1 1/16 deep socket (thanks Fred!) a 14mm wrench, a little hook to grab the heat shields and a little patience. I'd put on McMaster Carr viton line for the injector returns and was able to pull it off and re-install without leaks although I had to replace one because the frontmost injector was clocked differently and the old line wouldn't fit. I should probably replace the line from the front most injector to the IP as well as its kind of short. Car started very easily after the install which surprised me. It idles better, smokes not at all after a small puff at startup and is noticably quicker off the line. The nozzles I had put in are Bozio and slightly larger than the originals which shouldn't make much difference but it was fun telling Angie that car should be a little bit quicker. :) I need to root around in my parts bin, one of the plastic injector line clips is missing, I'd bought some years ago, just need to find them. Something is still not quite right in the rear end, does replacing lower control arm bushings require alignment? I think I already know the answer but... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
It was fine for a week but it's cooling system started rearing it's ugly head again! Hahaha. Ok so I can't get the lower rad hose to warm up even when upper hose is hot- engine is running hot at this point with coolant boiling out of rad neck. Shouldn't lower hose be hot instead of stone cold if I'm getting coolant circulation? I check T stat in boiling water and it opens just fine. I'm wondering if water pump is not working as it should. Coolant is apparently not circulating into heater core either as it blows cold air. So I started taking water pump out to inspect but York AC bracket appears to be blocking one of water pump mounting bolts. Must compressor be moved? Is there any other way around this Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
If I force the thermostat open, how is is different from leaving it out altogether? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:13:32 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd try running it with the thermostat out and the radiator blocked. won't warm up much in extreme cold, but upper, lower and heater hoses should all be the same temperature. Rust or a rag stuffed in it? that or a thermostat that only opens when you watch, or when it wants to. Easy way to test for circulation is to take out the thermostat. Waterpump almost never fails to pump, unless the original cast impeller was replaced with a stamped tin aftermarket POS, and I have never seen one of them made for a MB. But the Benz thermostats are double acting -- taking it out will allow the coolant to circulate, but will not cause the coolant to circulate through the radiator. You have to use an old thermostat that is mechanically forced open. IIRC, Jim Cathey used a fired pistol shell casing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
It is not an OE tstat. The rad seems to have good flow and I don't see any scale rust etc in the tubes. I went through the motions of burping it but I'm not sure if it made a difference. I'm thinking about putting it all back together and testing the coolant with one of those combustion gas detectors or maybe do a leak down test. Are there any available fittings that I could thread into a glow plug opening or something onto which I attach compressed air? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And make sure you have a proper Benz thermostat, there are aftermarkets out there that do not have the flap on the back. Causes poor circulation and overheating every time. I would also check for a collapsed lower hose and good flow through the radiator -- if the tubes are full of crap, it's not going to circulate. You have burped it, right? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
I agree that it behaves as if there is a physical block preventing coolant from circulating but let's say a blown headgasket or crack in head is pushing exhaust gases into cooling system- will this not cause the water pump to get air locked and no longer be able to pump? With blown headgasket coolant is essentially being replaced with exhaust gas? As Curt says the new tstat is high quality and works but it's not OE. Can this really make such a difference? The water pump looks perfect, the impeller blades exhibit no corrosion, it spins smoothly and there is no play. The vent line E should be checked. It appears to be a narrow exterior steel line. I should see if this can be checked for patency. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Coolant Circuit - Full Load: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10970d1061647597-240d-getting-warm-figure-1-coolant-circuit.jpg T-stat - Cold: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10971d1061648010-240d-getting-warm-fig-2-warm-up-cold.jpg T-stat - Partial Load: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10972d1061648301-240d-getting-warm-fig-3a-part-load-config.jpg Water pump: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/99213d1327937551-240d-coolant-leak-frustrations-240d-water-pump_xtg5468x4th.jpg From the diagrams, you can see how the cooling fluid is supposed to move through the system under the various conditions. If the top hose (A) gets warm and the bottom hose (B) stays cold, then something is blocking the system. I do not remember what the t-stat looks like, but are there rubber parts involved? If so, they bear careful inspection. Is the venting line (E) blocked? Perhaps there is a blockage in line (B) or in the water pump itself. On Nov 28, 2014, at 4:17 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is not an OE tstat. The rad seems to have good flow and I don't see any scale rust etc in the tubes. I went through the motions of burping it but I'm not sure if it made a difference. I'm thinking about putting it all back together and testing the coolant with one of those combustion gas detectors or maybe do a leak down test. Are there any available fittings that I could thread into a glow plug opening or something onto which I attach compressed air? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And make sure you have a proper Benz thermostat, there are aftermarkets out there that do not have the flap on the back. Causes poor circulation and overheating every time. I would also check for a collapsed lower hose and good flow through the radiator -- if the tubes are full of crap, it's not going to circulate. You have burped it, right? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap
That's good to hear! Might I suggest that you spray the heck out of the underbody parts exhibiting rust and body cavities with Fluid Film. It is an excellent rust inhibitor! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did I mention that it is back on the road again? Insurance all settled out, mechanics all sorted out. This, though, is probably its last year: the rear doors are starting to sag, and don't close without lifting. I think the tinworm has weakened the spine of the car enough that maybe I should try to avoid speed bumps! It's sad, really, that the lazy SOB's in conjunction with the EPA have caused them to switch from sand to salt for the roads here in winter. With sand your paint didn't last forever, but the car could. With salt the paint is OK, at least until the rust bubbles up from underneath and takes the entire car out too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
So as some of you know, I have a spare head acquired at Chowdah Q. I think it came from a later 240D. The later ones took the 12 point headbolts which stretch. If I were to recondition this later head and put it on the 78 240D which takes earlier style hex bolts, will it fit? Reading the factory manual it says that the later engines had deeper bolt holes to accommodate the stretching of the 12 point head bolts. So can I put a newer style head (assuming there is a difference in the head) on an older block and use the newer waisted head bolts? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The tstat that was in it when I gave it to you is the one that the was in it when I got it. Assuming it tests out correctly it isn't your problem, move on. The first time it exhibited this behavior after we did the HG I had luck re-torquing the bolts. I think that suggests a failure in clamping force. Maybe pull and measure the bolts to see if any are too long... -Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:11 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D I agree that it behaves as if there is a physical block preventing coolant from circulating but let's say a blown headgasket or crack in head is pushing exhaust gases into cooling system- will this not cause the water pump to get air locked and no longer be able to pump? With blown headgasket coolant is essentially being replaced with exhaust gas? As Curt says the new tstat is high quality and works but it's not OE. Can this really make such a difference? The water pump looks perfect, the impeller blades exhibit no corrosion, it spins smoothly and there is no play. The vent line E should be checked. It appears to be a narrow exterior steel line. I should see if this can be checked for patency. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Coolant Circuit - Full Load: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10970d1061647597-240d-getting-warm-figure-1-coolant-circuit.jpg T-stat - Cold: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10971d1061648010-240d-getting-warm-fig-2-warm-up-cold.jpg T-stat - Partial Load: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/10972d1061648301-240d-getting-warm-fig-3a-part-load-config.jpg Water pump: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/99213d1327937551-240d-coolant-leak-frustrations-240d-water-pump_xtg5468x4th.jpg From the diagrams, you can see how the cooling fluid is supposed to move through the system under the various conditions. If the top hose (A) gets warm and the bottom hose (B) stays cold, then something is blocking the system. I do not remember what the t-stat looks like, but are there rubber parts involved? If so, they bear careful inspection. Is the venting line (E) blocked? Perhaps there is a blockage in line (B) or in the water pump itself. On Nov 28, 2014, at 4:17 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It is not an OE tstat. The rad seems to have good flow and I don't see any scale rust etc in the tubes. I went through the motions of burping it but I'm not sure if it made a difference. I'm thinking about putting it all back together and testing the coolant with one of those combustion gas detectors or maybe do a leak down test. Are there any available fittings that I could thread into a glow plug opening or something onto which I attach compressed air? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And make sure you have a proper Benz thermostat, there are aftermarkets out there that do not have the flap on the back. Causes poor circulation and overheating every time. I would also check for a collapsed lower hose and good flow through the radiator -- if the tubes are full of crap, it's not going to circulate. You have burped it, right? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
I agree with Curt that the likelihood of the thermostat being faulty is probably a stretch but I'll likely replace it with an MB original nevertheless- hello Classic Center. I think my next course of action is to do a leakdown test to see if any air leaks into radiator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my early MB days I bought all my parts from Randy Steele (EPS, Ltd.) who was a former MB dealer parts guy before going out on his own. Randy once told me that about one in three thermostats were bad or out of spec, regardless of the supplier. I can’t recall which one (Behr or Wahler) was preferred, but he always told me to test it before I installed it to be sure it was working correctly. Dan On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:53 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I went thru the cooling system of my 91 300D and had some strange problems myself - I started chasing a leak and replaced the water pump and T stat gasket (rec'd incorrect info from MB dealer about size of T Stat) and when the nozzle on the radiator broke i replaced the radiator. The t stat was the only thing not replaced - and I checked it in boiling water and it opened as it should (I thought). But I had fixed the leak and another problem had started - it was running about 20-30C hotter than normal. Since I had changed all other components (short of the block) I ordered a T Stat and crossed my fingers it would fit - hoping the lady at MB was wrong when she said the size of my t stat had changed, and the old sized TStats were no longer available - and luckily the one I rec'd was correct. I installed it and my problems were over. So, in short (I know, HA!) my old Tested' T'Stat was bad, not good as I thought the hot water test indicated. Also, while i waited for a new T'Stat I removed the guts of the old T Stat so water would flow freely thru it. It still ran hot! But the new T Stat fixed any over heating problems. Things are not always logical. LarryT 91 300D 78 240D On 11/28/2014 1:52 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: It was fine for a week but it's cooling system started rearing it's ugly head again! Hahaha. Ok so I can't get the lower rad hose to warm up even when upper hose is hot- engine is running hot at this point with coolant boiling out of rad neck. Shouldn't lower hose be hot instead of stone cold if I'm getting coolant circulation? I check T stat in boiling water and it opens just fine. I'm wondering if water pump is not working as it should. Coolant is apparently not circulating into heater core either as it blows cold air. So I started taking water pump out to inspect but York AC bracket appears to be blocking one of water pump mounting bolts. Must compressor be moved? Is there any other way around this Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Sincerely, LarryT http://www.instantpaydaynetwork.com/larryturner youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
Anyone here use steel seal or other such head gasket sealing product with success? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
I'm not sure if there is a valve. The heat worked last week so I don't think that's the prob. There is just no coolant circulation into heater core for some reason. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri, Is there a valve on this car between the engine and the heater valve? Also, IIRC, the heater valves on that car look as though they might be frozen. Check for actual valve movement with lever movement. Jon On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If the coolant was boiling out could you put your finger in it? This is too soon and not hot enough and theres no heat at the heater core. And I already replaced the thermostat once... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
The coolant that was boiling out was hot. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If the coolant was boiling out could you put your finger in it? This is too soon and not hot enough and theres no heat at the heater core. And I already replaced the thermostat once... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
It was very hot. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real hot or just warm? When it was doing it to me it was maybe 100F, like hot bath water. When I've had coolant push out from a stuck thermostat it was a big blast all at once and was very hot. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dwight and Curt's former 240D
This car is possessed. How could it run perfectly after doing nothing to it then act up again? At the end of the day I think a leakdown test is a must. It should show me air bubbling thru coolant if head issue. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting, changing symptoms might mean a new problem. Its easy enough to jam the thermostat open to test. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy efficiency
Um that is weird as I ordered three all wood insulated Marvin awning windows for my garage. They came in yesterday. They broke the bank! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Years ago I purchased some large insulated Marvin awning windows, with wooden frames. Very impressed with their craftsmanship. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What are you using? Are they factory or something someone has cobbled together? Pella. Factory issue. Been a few years now since I've bought one. These are the kinds of windows that can have blinds between the two panes. Our doors do, but none of the windows have them. All could, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Yes but true. Use an alcohol based de-icer that displaces water, then use lock ease. Obviously the door flap should be dealt with or not. I never bothered, just carry some lock de-icer with me or don't lock door overnight. You shouldn't have theft issues where you are?! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's about as low tech a solution as it gets. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Great idea! Mmmm frozen pee! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 04/12/2014 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning. How would I go about addressing this issue? Is it possible that the worn out window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the handle? What's the diagnosis progression for this issue? Andrew Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning. Just Pe* on it. Then you won't have to carry the mug around. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?
Interesting. Never knew that! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 3:56 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tri-flow The other stuff is a boon for locksmiths, as it gums up the works and you end up replacing the locks you put the gunk in. clay On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: And when it is dry, spray some lock eze into it. I suspect your little door is bent, bad or broken. When it rained sideways then froze hard a couple weeks ago, my 240D would not unlock because the vacuum had leaked down, so the trunk lock would not open everything, the passenger door lock was not replaced with the original when an incompetent body shop replaced the door, so the key does not work in it and the drivers door lock got water in it and was frozen. I solved the problem by warming the lock with my hands. Part of the problem is that it's never going to dry out if you keep pouring water into it. I doubt very much your window scraper is bad or letting water get to the lock. You need to remove the door handle (easy 30 second job), take it inside and get it good and warm, then clean the lock cylinder as Craig suggested. Better yet, swap door handles between driver's and passenger door. They're interchangeable, and it's like having a brand new handle and lock on your driver's door. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Pierre is a decent guy. He is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable and generous with technical advice. Give him a call and you will see! A friend and I met up with him when we went to Amelia Island last Match. We had a nice dinner. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just thought I would mention that I got an email from Tom Harruff, President and Publisher of the SWFL Section, informing me that Scott Suits was not re-elected RD this year and Pierre Hedary took his place. Funny, as I don't recall ever mentioning Scott in the discussion about the local section recently. And why would I care? And who the heck is Pierre Hedary, like I would know this person, or it would matter to me? Dan ___ http://pierrehedary.com/ Sez they work on pre 1993 MBs. Can't fault em for that. I was under the impression that he had an attitude, but I may be wrong about that. Never met they guy. http://www.benzshops.com/florida/pierre-hedarys Just copied some verbage from the above. https://www.facebook.com/pierrehedarys Well, the shop does not look too fru-fru. May be a decent guy. or not I dunno. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Typical MBCA Behavior
Pierre also does Mercedes home visits all around the nation. I know some people up here in Maine that fly him up on an annual basis to their house to repair and maintain their fleet of 60's-80's Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In going through his Facebook page he appears to be heavily vested in the W124 and earlier stuff. That’s great, especially if there are enough owners out there for him to make a living doing it. As I mentioned previously, it also looks like he does a fair amount of NOS and used part buying, too. He had a couple of posts where he had purchased large numbers of parts and was selling them. Sounds like Jaime experienced a lot of what I did some years back when I got together with Scott Suits and tried to get at least an occasional car enthusiast event in the calendar with the local section. Scott was all for it, but the locals wanted nothing to do with it. All they were interested in was social events, really little to do with the cars themselves. What really sucked here, and I don’t know what Jaime’s situation is like, is that the local section really covers a large area, pretty much all of west central Florida from Sarasota up to maybe Crystal River and east to Lakeland. There are two dealers in the immediate area, Crown in Clearwater and MB of Tampa in Tampa. A dealer in Lakeland and Sarasota are on the fringes, but technically in the area, I believe. When I talked to the folks at Crown they knew about the section but had little interaction with them. For that matter, it was tough just to find someone at Crown who was even interested in talking about the club. I wasn’t that interested in Crown myself, as they are about an hour away. I went to MB of Tampa, where I do business, and quickly found the person who did their promotions and advertising. Within 10 minutes we were in his office talking with both the parts and service managers about possible tech events. They were very interested and seemed a little confused as to why they never heard anything from the local section. I spoke to the advertising person at the dealer in Lakeland over the phone, and they were interested too. I already described the response I got when I brought up the possibility of having an occasional meeting and/or tech event in Tampa. They pretty much told me that was a nice idea and moved along to something else. I knew at the point I was wasting my time. What’s really sad is that the local section (and this is historical, as I don’t know what’s going on now) seemed to be a social club for the elder and elite. All they seemed to be interested in was getting together at a restaurant, maybe after a drive, and having lunch or dinner. No shows, no tech events, no autocrosses, nada. I know that Scott was successful in getting a few things going in the past couple of years, as that was when he contacted me about rejoining. I think he got something set up at a local airport used for closed track events a while back, maybe an autocross, I don’t recall. Worse yet, there is a huge area for the section to draw from, and lots of potential members. By limiting the meetings and events to Pinellas County, where most of them live, they effectively cut off a large segment of potential members, even possible casual ones. I’ve devoted too much time to this already, but it brings up a lot of memories of trying to find some locals to get involved with over a common interest. It was pretty frustrating at the time, and still is to some extent, knowing the potential that’s out there for some fun with other MB owners. It would be nice to have a really active section like GWS or some of the sections out west. Dan On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I agree about Pierre, I've met him several times and was impressed by his knowledge and enthusiasm for old cars. I think he actually tracked me down the first time we met, knowing I was the guy with that 240D website so many years ago. The MBCA needs more guys like him. I made a strong effort this spring to get involved with the local MBCA section, specifically during the June Jamboree. I spoke to the section president and national president, and former national president about ideas to get more younger people in the club and bring the car back into the picture. Some were very enthusiastic about the ideas... I was asked to join the local section as a board member. I followed up with an email with several ideas, and I volunteered to take over social media for the section, which is sorely lacking. Nothing became of it. I received a reply that they were already working on my ideas. Meanwhile, the entire 2014 car season has disappeared and I don't see any changes. I have a garage full of old
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap
Oh minor stuff! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The blower fuse fried again, and the muffler just fell off. Again. Perhaps the car is trying to tell me something? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Time Capsule
I don't think the R129 is that bad. It has clean lines. I agree about the R107. It just doesn't cut it for me although the early euro models weren't that bad. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would agree. Try as I might, I have never been able to like the styling of the W107 models. I never really like the W116s, either, which are very close in design to the W107s in my opinion. I seriously considered a couple of different W107s in my search, but I just couldn't convince myself that this was the way I wanted to go. I'm happy with the R129, but I will say that it's a real contrast with the other models of its' vintage. Pretty bare bones in a lot of respects, nowhere near the amenities of the larger sedans of the time. Given the choice, I would give it up in a heartbeat for a W140 sedan of the same vintage. Dan On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The R129 looks much better than the earlier versions unless one goes all the way back into the era of the W113. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Report on Prius
I just don't understand why people keep buying cars from a company that consistently and repeatedly conceals problems almost all of which are related to safety. And I further don't understand why Toyotas reliability rankings continue to be as high as they are. Here is a quote from the blog in the link below: The suit claims that a defect causes at least one headlight to function sporadically when the vehicle is being driven, and that Toyota knew of the problem and concealed it from prospective buyers. This is classic Toyota. Frankly, I find it nauseating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:53 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A check on the 2008 Prius display of miles-per-gallon yielded the follow results: Gallons: 9.72 Miles: 481 MPG: 49.48 The display read 48.34 for the same 481 miles. The headlights had been flickering occasionally since it was bought from the dealer. I thought it was a headlight going bad and would wait until the defective light quit completely. Then, 3 nights ago, while driving to the grocery store on a dark road; both lights went out. I flipped on the foglights and got off on the shoulder. Flipping the switch turned the lights back on. The dealer said the bulbs were bad, and since they had failed shortly after purchasing the car, he would split the cost of replacing the bulbs which were $200+ each. (I checked and they were $180 at FLAPS). The dealer said a circuit in the Prius computer turned the lights off when the bulb went bad. This was surprising considering the lawsuits that could result from both headlights going out, so I Googled and got the following: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/toyota-prius-headlight-failure-sparks-class-action-suit/?_r=0 http://www.toyotaproblems.com/trends/prius-headlights/ or click on Bing for more info: 2008 prius headlight failure Since the suit had been settled with the assumption that any newer Prius uninvolved in the class action lawsuit would not have that problem, there was no chance of making the dealer pay the whole cost of replacing the bulbs, and the amount of money involved did not warrant a small claims court lawsuit. Since headlights have gone out on several other makes of cars including Mercedes, this hasn't turned me against Prius. It's simple enough to flip on the foglights if it happens again, so the risk is minimal. The high intensity lights are quite effective and don't seem to blind oncoming cars. I'm getting used to the bouncing around on rough roads, and I've bought aftermarket add-on seat supports that let the seat go back 4 inches further so tall people won't have their knees bumping the steering wheel. Sadly, the $200 paid to the dealer has cancelled the saving on fuel for a few thousand miles. Hopefully there will be no more unusual expenses. The Mercedes addiction still seems to be present since I'm looking forward to mechanical jobs on the '83 300D after the 20 year upgrade on the shop is complete. I've decided to sell the pristine, all mechanical '83 240D instead of the '83 300D; but I don't want to sell it here since a local buyer will likely be calling every time some little thing needs fixing. Haven't yet decided where to advertise it, though. Looking around the internet and on the newsstands, the stick shift/all mechanical 240Ds seem to be scarce and high priced. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W210 wiper problem
A friend has a 1999 E320. The windshield wiper will not move but he can hear the motor turning. A couple of non-MB mechanics couldn't figure it out. I haven't seen the car yet. Any idea what could be happening? It has the single front wiper. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W210 wiper problem
Ok thanks. I'll look at it for him, pop the cover and see what's going on. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yup. Probably a broken geartrain. With the hood in the 90 degree position you can pry the cover off of the monowiper and see everything. I believe there are tabs on each side that hold it on. You can buy the internal parts for it, so it can be repaired, but timing it can be tricky. This is a reminder to everyone that has a monowiper to pop the cover and grease it annually. Dan On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:46 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A friend has a 1999 E320. The windshield wiper will not move but he can hear the motor turning. A couple of non-MB mechanics couldn't figure it out. I haven't seen the car yet. Any idea what could be happening? It has the single front wiper. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Interesting
Yes and this is exactly why I'd never buy a non luxury brand. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/here-are-four-great-reasons-why-luxury-cars-arent-only-1670300745/1670691632/+Kyosuke --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Interesting
Does a 1958 300d Adenauer count:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than Dan and Kaleb, anyone else fit this category (owners of an S-class 140 model or newer? I'm sure there is someone else whose name escapes me at the moment. I'm sorely tempted to get a 2005 or 2006 S class for SWMBO's daily driver. Would like to hear from some owners of second-hand examples. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock. What do you all think? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap
Nice going! Remind me now. Is this the euro w115 200D? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saturday I didn't get much done, but I did get the car jacked up. The road rash doesn't look as bad as I'd feared. On Sunday I got to work on it. The forward end of the exhaust pipe that was dragging on the ground was all collapsed. I got the end of the pipe opened back up, and the ruined metal broken off. (Yes, it's that thin!) I rooted around in the garage and came up with an 8 piece of scrap exhaust pipe that would slip over what was there, and used it as a sleeve to bridge the break and cover up the missing metal. I then welded it into place. It leaks a bit, but the noise is gone and it seems sturdy enough again. I replaced the one rubber exhaust hanger that had disappeared. Today I put in some engine oil, which was low, and while I was at it I slopped a bit into the injection pump. I tested the fuses, and rolled them in their sockets, and all seems well again. I re-set the clock, and replaced the burned out indicator in the flasher switch. Ready to roll again! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
I went without the sealer, just my homemade gasket. No leaks. I also replaced the thermostat with an OE Mercedes part from the classic center. No overheating yet but I haven't tried the car on the highway. Prior to this it overheated while idling. This car's behavior is inconsistent so I won't hold my breath!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again if it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my Dad used. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock. What do you all think? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation?
Maybe having the car sit for a few weeks after is overheating episodes fixes it for a while? Not sure why. Perhaps a head issue that seals itself shut after sitting? If it overheats again, I will do leakdown test. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That was the super frustrating thing. The last time I fixed it it was good for 100 miles... -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasket sealer for water pump installation? I went without the sealer, just my homemade gasket. No leaks. I also replaced the thermostat with an OE Mercedes part from the classic center. No overheating yet but I haven't tried the car on the highway. Prior to this it overheated while idling. This car's behavior is inconsistent so I won't hold my breath!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I always use a gasket sealer because I don't want to have to go back again if it leaks. I use the permatex family of products because that's what my Dad used. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:59 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well I'm back to working on the enigmatic overheating '78 240D. I removed the water pump a few weeks ago to inspect it. Nothing obviously wrong with it. It was installed with both the paper/fiber gasket and a gasket sealer. Is this recommended? Should I also use both or just the fiber/paper gasket? I'm using a new gasket of course which I made from gasket paper stock. What do you all think? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Interesting
That is nice but not as nice as tobacco brown/cognac:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Teal/parchment is one of the all time great color combinations. I guess for that litle money one has to assume it doesn't run or drive. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clay, Here's a good deal on a 300SE in Wilmington, DE. There is a guy on BW pushing this, saying it's got slipping in first gear. http://delaware.craigslist.org/ctd/4790342387.html Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:59 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: #1 boy drives a 92 300SE (w140). If adequate care has been taken, these are good cars. Age does make an impact upon them. If you repair or replace as systems fail, they will not strand you. The w220 is another bucket or worms. The 140 has a build quality that is not there in the newer S series. Far more complex bells and whistles, lower end fabric and finishes, shoddier plastics and fit. Still a bit better than what the newer lesser marques are producing on their higher end cars. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Dec 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Other than Dan and Kaleb, anyone else fit this category (owners of an S-class 140 model or newer? I'm sure there is someone else whose name escapes me at the moment. I'm sorely tempted to get a 2005 or 2006 S class for SWMBO's daily driver. Would like to hear from some owners of second-hand examples. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Model car
Funny, a Folk Art was the first thing that came to my mind as well! Nice piece! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cool. That’s worth a small fortune, Wilton - it’s “folk art”! Time to head for the Antiques Roadshow guys…… All kidding aside, it’s amazing to me that someone would have something like this from their childhood, unless it was held by a parent who passed it down later in life. I wish I had some of the stuff I made, or for that matter, a couple of my childhood toys. I do have a shoe box with some Matchbox cars that belonged to me as a child. I had Matchboxs and Corgis, but since the Corgis were far more expensive (I bought them with my allowance) I never played with them outside. That Matchboxs got played with outside…. I kept the 100 or so Corgis I had until the late 1980s, when I sold them to make the down payment on our house. A nice investment, even if I hadn’t intended for them to be used for something like that. Dan On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Attached are several photos of a model car that I carved at 15 in 1949 using a small block of balsa wood that a friend gave me. It appears that the '50 Studebaker and the '49/'50 Hudson may have had some influence. Most significant to me, though, are the curved, one-piece windshield and rear window and the rectangular headlights streamlined into the fenders. Tail lights were basically the same design as the headlights. The hood ornaments were to be radio antennae. Part of the rear, underside has been lost sometime during the last 65 years. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo 1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 113123 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141216/015ba4df/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo 2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 107210 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141216/015ba4df/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo 3.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 113875 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141216/015ba4df/attachment-0002.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo 4.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 117868 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141216/015ba4df/attachment-0003.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo 5.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 117152 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141216/015ba4df/attachment-0004.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This is Cool
I really like that! One of my favorite colors too. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html The price even seems pretty decent. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
Why do they want to move? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It affects me, but not directly. I don't work for MBUSA, I work for MBRDNA. Although I do sit in Montvale. You could come up with towns all over the country that have advantages for one or another reason. The New York area is a top market (above texas, florida, and others)... the cars are bought here and have been for decades. New Jersey (and Bergen county) have historically been the home of most foreign car manufactures for the last 50+ years. BMW, Volvo, Jaguar/LR, and Subaru are based here still. (plus toyota, ford and others have offices here) BMW recently made a huge investment by building a new campus (a few miles down the road from MBUSA). Subaru just announced they're doing the same in NJ. The bigger impact for me personally is on the people that work at MBUSA and have dedicated their careers to the company. There are loads of people who have been there for 20+ years. These people are my friends and co-workers, so yes, I have a different perspective than someone who just considers them moving some jobs. I wouldn't want to pick up my family to follow a job or a company. I've seen too many people get screwed in that game. Jaime On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/as_mercedes_mulls_exit_from_nj_state_legislators_scramble.html Does this affect Jaime, or in the long term if not now? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
It's too dang hot in Hotlanta. Hard to acclimate to hot! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 4:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I don't know if anyones been following this, but its getting pretty heavy here locally. I have a lot of friends and coworkers who are directly effected by the potential move (but I'm not, luckily). Not a nice thing to worry about over the holidays. http://l.facebook.com/l/EAQESzbfR/www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847 Curly wrote: Personally, I could never figure out why they opened up shop in NJ (other than it is one of the points in the USA closest to die vaterland)Based on sales, they should locate in Dallas or lost angels. Why not just move to AL where the plant is? Hotlanta is no longer a desirable location. Major company branches seldom move to Atlanta proper; they move to one of the outlying areas. MB is probably thinking of the Atlanta area for several reasons: lower overhead, a world class airport with direct flights to all major international cities, seldom any weather disruptions in the winter, major international ground and air shipping routes and facilities, a few hours drive or 45 minute flight to their plant in Alabama, etc. Besides that, Atlanta is probably more of an international city than anyplace in New Jersey. Over 60% of the Atlanta area population are from someplace besides Georgia; including numerous foreign countries. Company employees transferred to the Atlanta area seldom have problems acclimating to the local culture since Georgians, like Southerners in general, are friendly and hospitable. Jaimie and his friends would probably settle in quickly and be glad they were transferred to the Atlanta area. Gerrywho lived and worked in Atlanta for six years ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but...
Now that is some funny $hit!!! :)) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn't Atlanta basically shut down for a week last year for a couple inches of snow? Don't they shut down every couple years for a hurricane? Don't they have tornadoes in Georgia? Seems like the north east has way fewer weather disruptions.While I agree that southerners tend to be friendly but in my experience they also tend to be uneducated and dumb. This often is the reason given for car makers leaving places like Alabama and going to Ontario. A friend of mine went to Georgia a few years ago and loved it. Then after a doctor screw up he died. I blame it on Georgia. For me anything after Connecticut is too far south ;) -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I don't know if anyones been following this, but... Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I don't know if anyones been following this, but its getting pretty heavy here locally. I have a lot of friends and coworkers who are directly effected by the potential move (but I'm not, luckily). Not a nice thing to worry about over the holidays. http://l.facebook.com/l/EAQESzbfR/www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/nj-open-to-incentives-to-keep-mercedes-lawmaker-says-1.1172847 Curly wrote: Personally, I could never figure out why they opened up shop in NJ (other than it is one of the points in the USA closest to die vaterland)Based on sales, they should locate in Dallas or lost angels. Why not just move to AL where the plant is? Hotlanta is no longer a desirable location. Major company branches seldom move to Atlanta proper; they move to one of the outlying areas. MB is probably thinking of the Atlanta area for several reasons: lower overhead, a world class airport with direct flights to all major international cities, seldom any weather disruptions in the winter, major international ground and air shipping routes and facilities, a few hours drive or 45 minute flight to their plant in Alabama, etc. Besides that, Atlanta is probably more of an international city than anyplace in New Jersey. Over 60% of the Atlanta area population are from someplace besides Georgia; including numerous foreign countries. Company employees transferred to the Atlanta area seldom have problems acclimating to the local culture since Georgians, like Southerners in general, are friendly and hospitable. Jaimie and his friends would probably settle in quickly and be glad they were transferred to the Atlanta area. Gerrywho lived and worked in Atlanta for six years ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
