Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
fear of something breaking.




'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On June 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
 about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
 up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
 one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
 problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
 fear of something breaking.

The one in my S210 worked fine when I bought it. 
After I used it 15-20 times it failed, one side tried to close from pop-up while
the other side jammed. 
Took me an hour or two to disassemble it far enough to close it so it didn't
whistle. 

I don't use pop-up sunroofs much after that, and I'll never pop one up again. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

Wilton

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EXACTLY - it's jut asking for trouble (which is guaranteed to come).

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:



Like Wilton said, what's the point in taking a perfectly good roof and
cutting a hole in it?


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm ready for the Passat when it's sunroof starts to leak - the new MIG rig
arrived yesterday!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

 Wilton



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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Pour water into the (open) roof slowly and check to see how fast it drains
(all four corners).  The front wheel arches have a cover that needs to be
removed (half a dozen machine screws) to get at the gunk that accumulates
from the front drains.  But if your wet area is in the back it's more
likely the rear s/r drains are slow/blocked.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Front is dry.  Before the new windshield and gasket, it peed on your left
 leg while driving in rain.

  Yes, check every where.  Especially the S/R drains.  Is it wet at all in
 the front?

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I
  am getting water in the driver side rear footwell.  I don't remember
  getting that before, but maybe it did happen.  The car was stored inside
  for years.

  Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is
  the front windshield.  I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof
 open
  and check clean drains.  It could also be a leak from the rear glass.  I
  had that in my 110 for years.  the first time it was from the trunk
 hinge
  drains.  on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket.

  Anyone BTDT?  is the sunroof the right place to look?  Or should I try
  clearing the trunk hinge drains first?

  Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts
 to
  break and cause a great cash outlay.  It probably has not opened for 10
 yrs.

  Thank'e all

1981 240D 123  failing slushbox
  


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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As I absorbed the collective knowledge on the W220 from the Benz World forum, I 
found it somewhat humorous that the W220 suffers from similar maladies.

In the case of this car, you realize the rear drains are blocked when water 
starts pouring out of the back seat (ceiling) mirrors/reading lights.

Some things never change

Dan

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 On Jun 26, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I was able to diagnose my 124 sunroof woe using a garden hose, after the
 interior of the car was dry and I had removed the carpet.  I played water
 all over the front windshield and cowling, checked for water, sprayed the
 passenger side doors, checked again, and then sprayed the roof and finally
 had water.
 
 If you can find the bottom outlet of each drain, you can run weed wacker
 cord (melt the end into a nice ball) or an old speedometer cable up and
 probably clear the drain, while simultaneously watering the sunroof
 (closed) and maybe fix the issue without opening the sunroof.  I know where
 all the drains exit on a 124, but that doesn't help you.
 
 
 
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 Max
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I was able to diagnose my 124 sunroof woe using a garden hose, after the
interior of the car was dry and I had removed the carpet.  I played water
all over the front windshield and cowling, checked for water, sprayed the
passenger side doors, checked again, and then sprayed the roof and finally
had water.

If you can find the bottom outlet of each drain, you can run weed wacker
cord (melt the end into a nice ball) or an old speedometer cable up and
probably clear the drain, while simultaneously watering the sunroof
(closed) and maybe fix the issue without opening the sunroof.  I know where
all the drains exit on a 124, but that doesn't help you.



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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:39:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 As I absorbed the collective knowledge on the W220 from the Benz World
 forum, I found it somewhat humorous that the W220 suffers from similar
 maladies.
 
 In the case of this car, you realize the rear drains are blocked when
 water starts pouring out of the back seat (ceiling) mirrors/reading
 lights.
 
 Some things never change

Like Wilton said, what's the point in taking a perfectly good roof and
cutting a hole in it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
EXACTLY - it's jut asking for trouble (which is guaranteed to come).

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


 Like Wilton said, what's the point in taking a perfectly good roof and
 cutting a hole in it?


 Craig




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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, check every where.  Especially the S/R drains.  Is it wet at all in
the front?

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I
 am getting water in the driver side rear footwell.  I don't remember
 getting that before, but maybe it did happen.  The car was stored inside
 for years.

 Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is
 the front windshield.  I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof open
 and check clean drains.  It could also be a leak from the rear glass.  I
 had that in my 110 for years.  the first time it was from the trunk hinge
 drains.  on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket.

 Anyone BTDT?  is the sunroof the right place to look?  Or should I try
 clearing the trunk hinge drains first?

 Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts to
 break and cause a great cash outlay.  It probably has not opened for 10 yrs.

 Thank'e all

 1981 240D 123  failing slushbox

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-25 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Front is dry.  Before the new windshield and gasket, it peed on your 
left leg while driving in rain.



Yes, check every where.  Especially the S/R drains.  Is it wet at all in
the front?

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I
 am getting water in the driver side rear footwell.  I don't remember
 getting that before, but maybe it did happen.  The car was stored inside
 for years.

 Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is
 the front windshield.  I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof open
 and check clean drains.  It could also be a leak from the rear glass.  I
 had that in my 110 for years.  the first time it was from the trunk hinge
 drains.  on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket.

 Anyone BTDT?  is the sunroof the right place to look?  Or should I try
 clearing the trunk hinge drains first?

 Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts to
 break and cause a great cash outlay.  It probably has not opened for 10 yrs.

 Thank'e all


  1981 240D 123  failing slushbox
 


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