Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Ever since then I always put a towel over the reservoir and bleeder when it’s under pressure. Keep a hose handy. Speedi-rinse might save your paint. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
I like just putting bake fluid in the reservoir and just using the pressure bleeder to provide pressure. You have fewer problems with bubbles and potential foaming, I’ve found. It’s not a big deal to have to pull the cap and replenish the fluid occasionally. I would add that I had an unfortunate incident with an “Easy Bleed” one time where the cap popped off the reservoir during bleeding, spraying brake fluid all over the place. Did some damage to my paint. Ever since then I always put a towel over the reservoir and bleeder when it’s under pressure. That way if something does pop loose it won’t spray brake fluid all over. To be honest, I prefer suction bleeding with a hand vacuum pump and overflow bottle. It takes a little longer, but it works well for me. After the incident with the pressure bleeder I’m a bit gun shy about having pressurized brake fluid around my car... Dan > On Aug 18, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Mitch, >> >> I hadn't thought of that! I will try again... >> >> I've got to install new hoses on the rear brake calipers, will start by >> filling the power bleeder so that it has plenty of time to "air out" before >> use. >> >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC > > The other thing you can do with a pressurized bleeder if put the fresh fluid > in at the wheels, and that helps push the air up and out at the high spot, > the MC. > > You can find the procedure online. I did this once, when I could not find a > way to bleed the ABS. > > ABS brake bleeding is more tricky than plain dual circuit, which are a little > more complicated than the old single circuit brakes. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Mitch, I hadn't thought of that! I will try again... I've got to install new hoses on the rear brake calipers, will start by filling the power bleeder so that it has plenty of time to "air out" before use. - Max Charleston SC The other thing you can do with a pressurized bleeder if put the fresh fluid in at the wheels, and that helps push the air up and out at the high spot, the MC. You can find the procedure online. I did this once, when I could not find a way to bleed the ABS. ABS brake bleeding is more tricky than plain dual circuit, which are a little more complicated than the old single circuit brakes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Mitch, I hadn't thought of that! I will try again... I've got to install new hoses on the rear brake calipers, will start by filling the power bleeder so that it has plenty of time to "air out" before use. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On August 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > Just seemed like the most likely reason for a soft pedal. > > Did you ever pour brake fluid and see that the container you poured > into has thousands of barely visible microbubbles in it? > > I don't like to pedal bleed from a reservoir that had fluid added to > it in the past half hour. > > If I used a pressure bleeder, I'd fill the tank and give it time to > de-air itself before using it. > > Mitch. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
> On August 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Just seemed like the most likely reason for a soft pedal. Did you ever pour brake fluid and see that the container you poured into has thousands of barely visible microbubbles in it? I don't like to pedal bleed from a reservoir that had fluid added to it in the past half hour. If I used a pressure bleeder, I'd fill the tank and give it time to de-air itself before using it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Just seemed like the most likely reason for a soft pedal. RB On 17/08/2015 3:35 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I'm using a "Power Bleeder" which pressurizes the MC reservoir and pushes fluid at the same time. This quickly and easily pushes all the air out via the bleeder bolt. I would be surprised if there is still any air in the system. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Bleed them again?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Randy, I'm using a "Power Bleeder" which pressurizes the MC reservoir and pushes fluid at the same time. This quickly and easily pushes all the air out via the bleeder bolt. I would be surprised if there is still any air in the system. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Bleed them again?? > > RB > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Dan, I wish I'd taken a picture. I looked at how the old pads and sensors were joined, and inserted the sensor pin into the same hole (center of the spring clip) on the new pads. There are two ways that I could see to install them, I tried both. One method (wrong) resulted in no click - no stick, the sensor would just fall right out. The spring clip can be removed and flipped over to present a smaller hole, I had to do that on one pad, and then a weak "click" and the sensor stayed in place, but with some movement. Maybe I'll dig an old pad out of the trash and take a picture. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The wear sensors should clip into the side of the pad backing plates. > Being placed in the holes doesn't anchor or hold them in place. > > Dan > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
Last night I installed new Akebono Ultra Premium ceramic pads (part# EUR423) in my '87 300TD. Made in USA, and about $46 via Amazon. Two problems. Well, maybe only one can be attributed to the new pads. The MB pad wear sensors are supposed to clip into holes in the pads, but the holes are slightly too large and the sensors flop around a bit, As long as they don't fall out, I think they'll work fine, but they don't fit as well as in the OE or OEM pads. The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid "normal" pads, but now the pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. They are a 129 part number now. - Max Charleston SC Wea feal yor pane ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid "normal" pads, but now the pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. - Max Bleed them again?? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feel your (break) petals
The wear sensors should clip into the side of the pad backing plates. Being placed in the holes doesn't anchor or hold them in place. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Last night I installed new Akebono Ultra Premium ceramic pads (part# > EUR423) in my '87 300TD. Made in USA, and about $46 via Amazon. > > Two problems. Well, maybe only one can be attributed to the new pads. > > The MB pad wear sensors are supposed to clip into holes in the pads, but > the holes are slightly too large and the sensors flop around a bit, As > long as they don't fall out, I think they'll work fine, but they don't fit > as well as in the OE or OEM pads. > > The pedal feel was nice and firm with Pagid "normal" pads, but now the > pedal feel is toward the squishy end. I blame the new pads. I also > changed the front brake hoses at the same time, so perhaps the new ATE > hoses are to blame or are part of the problem. They are a 129 part number > now. > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
