Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Right behind you, Jaime. And it’s green velour!!! Dan > On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'd buy this in a a second. > > On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No, have you? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sounds more like it fires than it starts. > Could be something in the ignition, like a ballast resistor that's bypassed by > the start circuit, but it's probably a bad fuel distributor or s

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would not have a problem paying 1-1.2k Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was thinking ballast resistor also, but could be fuel. It would have to > be pretty clogged up to not run at all. But I don't think its anything too > seri

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
$450 from the Delorian guy... I've used a few of his with good results. http://www.specialtauto.com/mercedes-parts/index.html Jaime On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sounds more like it fires than it starts. > Could be something in the

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I was thinking ballast resistor also, but could be fuel. It would have to be pretty clogged up to not run at all. But I don't think its anything too serious honestly. The car looks pretty nice, but not perfect. But going on the pictures, I don't have any trouble paying $1500 for it. But I see t

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sounds more like it fires than it starts. Could be something in the ignition, like a ballast resistor that's bypassed by the start circuit, but it's probably a bad fuel distributor or similar. Have you priced a 8 cylinder K-Jetronic fuel distributor lately? Mitch. > On February 28, 2016 at 12:22

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. Clogged filters, bad gas, pinched lines, pump, clogged injections stuff, something like that. --R On 2/28/16 12:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: It starts, but refuses to keep running I would strongly suspect fuel delivery. Small supply of gas in a s

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It starts, but refuses to keep running I would strongly suspect fuel delivery. Small supply of gas in a squirt bottle, prime the intake with a couple squirts of gas.. have assistant crank engine to start... squirt fuel into intake [fire bottle standing by always] . if engine continues to r

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
What do you think it needs done to get it running? Looks like he has thrown some parts at it without success so far. --R On 2/28/16 12:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: I'd buy this in a a second. On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'd buy this in a a second. On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5457959480.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh wow I would love to get ahold of that car but way way way overpriced Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/5457959480.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To sea

[MBZ] 500SEL, green, velour, doesn't run...

2016-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] 500SEL AMG - or Not?

2015-11-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I don't know about the signature if it was a pre-merger vehicle, which this would definitely be. There have been some good posts about this since, such as cams having "AMG 50.1" on the ends, exhaust manifolds being two piece (AMG) or four in one, and solid lifter clips on each rocker. Good r

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL AMG - or Not?

2015-11-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don’t know about the signature if it was a pre-merger vehicle, which this would definitely be. There have been some good posts about this since, such as cams having “AMG 50.1” on the ends, exhaust manifolds being two piece (AMG) or four in one, and solid lifter clips on each rocker. Good ref

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL AMG - or Not?

2015-11-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think you can check with AMG or now the Benz factory to get details if you have the vin. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:55 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Engine would have been signed by the guy that built it. If there is no indication of this on the block or a plaque to t

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL AMG - or Not?

2015-11-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
Engine would have been signed by the guy that built it. If there is no indication of this on the block or a plaque to the effect with engraved signature there, it is just a pig with lipstick. All AMG engines were signed by the ONE guy who took it from parts to testing. I am assuming there are

[MBZ] 500SEL AMG - or Not?

2015-11-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Anybody know how you can authenticate an older AMG build, such as one on a 1983 500SEL? There’s some guy over on BenzWorld trying to pawn off one of these as an AMG and there’s little other than cosmetic stuff that is AMG on the car. He’s claiming the engine and drive train were modified by AM

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Pins 7 & 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. I made a cable using some surplus connector pins and a spare dome-light rocker switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or c

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Possibly. I'm still trying to coordinate a visit to check it out. Pins 7 & 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. Thanks! Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? > They come on during cranking, but depend

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? They come on during cranking, but depend upon the RPM-sensor in order to stay running. The 380SL I once bought on the cheap acted something like that. I was kind to the PO, and towed it away on a rope rather than jumping around the

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Closer to $150 depending on how you can work the rental company. At least that's about what it ran me last year to get my 240d home. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Go rent a truck and dolly for the day, probably wouldn't cost more than $100. > > A

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
resistors; they have something > else instead in the controller. > > > >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:00:47 -0700 > >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >From: David Bruckmann > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 500SEL > >Cc: Dan Penoff > > > >On the older cars, the star

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread LarryT
was there a carFax? LarryT On 7/12/2014 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as it starting but not staying running? Than

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Probably bad warm up regulator Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > I would have to brush up on my CIS knowledge (this was a CIS engine, right?) > Not sure why a filter would allow it to start but not run, unless it was just > getting fuel from the priming

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread David Bruckmann
Well, so much for that. Just checked the manual and it looks like the 5 litre cars after about 1981 don't have the resistors; they have something else instead in the controller. >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:00:47 -0700 >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >From: David Bruckmann >Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I have had a couple "champagne" colored MBs. Didn't start out liking them, but the color sort of grew on me. I like the ballast resistor possibility, but I don't know if it runs then dies, ,or dies as soon as the key is released. That would be a giveaway. Anyone know where the ballast resisto

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread David Bruckmann
On the older cars, the starting circuit bypassed the coil resistor pack for brighter spark during cranking. Maybe the resistor is fried and, when rejoined into the circuit, causes spark to fail. If it only fires during cranking then that's a definite culprit... On 7/12/14, Dan Penoff wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:05:02 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule > out: > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html If you like gold, more power to you! > Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as it startin

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
Wild a.. gues. Fuel distributor & EHA. Just helping a friend with that on. a 560sel that sat. Nice looking car. On Jul 12, 2014 6:05 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html > > An

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
A stuck metering flap will do that, so will a serious air leak (boot between air meter flap on the fuel distributor and the throttle body is one, and on that car, the seals between the upper and lower manifold parts). Could also be a dead alternator, sometimes the fuel pump relay kicks ou

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Go rent a truck and dolly for the day, probably wouldn't cost more than $100. Also check for spuds up the exhaust pipe (not that I would know anything about spuds in an exhaust pipe). --R On 7/12/14 6:21 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: It's about an hour away, so I would have to find a way to get it

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I would have to brush up on my CIS knowledge (this was a CIS engine, right?) Not sure why a filter would allow it to start but not run, unless it was just getting fuel from the priming solenoid (I can't recall the actual name of the part, you know what I mean.) It's about an hour away, so I wo

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I would presume he has CHANGED THE FILTERS or maybe the new fuel pump is buggered somehow, or injectors? Definitely sounds like a fuel delivery issue, as long as it is getting sparkies. In any case offer him $1k and haul it home. That looks like a really nice car. Could drop a 617 in there

[MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as it starting but not staying running? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Thanks for all the help, guys! I haven't had time to play with the car for a few days, but when I do I'll report back. David wrote: > Before worrying about pressure, check the linkages between the height > correctors > and the control lever inside the car. Since both ends of the car are rising

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread David Bruckmann
This posting on the M-100 6.9 forum may also be helpful: http://www.m-100.cc/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5862 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread David Bruckmann
As long as it is clear to everyone that the post that Max is commenting on below applied to spring-assisted SLS systems (123/124 wagons and similar). The 6.9/Euro-500SEL system is QUITE different, with no steel springs. The pressure management is also different, and there's not necessarily a "b

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Max Dillon
al Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 1:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down) > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Right, let

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Fmiser
> Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Right, let's stipulate, as our colleague Snook, Esq. would > say, that I already knew that. ;) The question I should have > posed was, does the main flow control valve allow the > high-pressure fluid from the pump to enter the rest of the > system (i.e. the level cont

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
You want the ride height hydraulics to be slow response, otherwise they would be chasing all kinds of bumps and what not and the car would be gyrating all over the place. Sort of a built-in analog filter. Now that might be different for the shocks that keep the wheels planted, that is a diffe

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread David Bruckmann
Before worrying about pressure, check the linkages between the height correctors and the control lever inside the car. Since both ends of the car are rising somewhat, and the height is the same (but low), I would check that first. What happens if you raise the lever inside the car? What happens

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Max Dillon
nuary 07, 2011 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down) On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> I find it hard to believe that the hydraulic fluid tank is really a >> pressure reservoir > > Can

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Meaning that there's a reason for that little filter I found inside the flow control valve to be a sintered bronze solid rather than something less exotic, like a fine flat screen, for example? Well, they're physically robust, small, and cheap. What's not to like? Would soaking it in brake cl

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Meaning that there's a reason for that little filter I found inside the flow control valve to be a sintered bronze solid rather than something less exotic, like a fine flat screen, for example? Would soaking it in brake cleaner as I did be enough to restore its degree of

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> I find it hard to believe that the hydraulic fluid tank is really a >> pressure reservoir > > Can't be, it's plastic.  Would explode. Yeah, that's what I thought. The coolant overflow tank is plastic, but then it's not connected directly to a

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey
I find it hard to believe that the hydraulic fluid tank is really a pressure reservoir Can't be, it's plastic. Would explode. There also seems to be some disagreement as to whether the system constantly recirculates fluid---in which case the health of the pump would be extremely important---

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Check for a filter at the base of the reservoir.  If you do have one there > and it's full of crud, you may not be delivering enough fluid. > There's a filter inside the reservoir which I replaced, although it didn't seem to need it. The l

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Check for a filter at the base of the reservoir. If you do have one there and it's full of crud, you may not be delivering enough fluid. I would double-check the o-rings on the filter, and apply some gentle air pressure from the back side of the sintered filter to make sure it's allowing f

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Sell it to a Mexican as an exotic low-rider! Don't take it to a shop, on that Top Gear with the 600Grosser his checkup repair bill was 15k pounds! --R On 1/6/2011 12:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: But the car, though at the same height front and back, won't rise to normal ride height overall

[MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)

2011-01-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Y'all may remember that a couple of weeks ago I was posting about my Euro 500SEL with the 6.9-style four-wheel hydro suspension, which was first pressurizing (lifting the car) at one end but not the other, then (after sitting overnight) seemed to be pressurizing properly, but still didn't respond c

[MBZ] 500SEL

2008-07-15 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, All. Passed by a 500SEL and took some pictures. Basic info: 1985, one owner, Florida car, no rust that I could see. $3500. Too much tint to see much inside except for very clean and sun has faded some of the wooden dash trim. I'll send pics to anyone who would like them, and on Teusday next

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2005-12-19 Thread Desert Rat
In 84 and 85, there was an US model 500SEL. On 12/19/05, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > not a 560SEL, but 500. I am not familiar with these cars. Is this a > > Euro car? > > Usually, as I understand it. They may or may not have all the goodies > that a 560 would have had. I was all

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2005-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
not a 560SEL, but 500. I am not familiar with these cars. Is this a Euro car? Usually, as I understand it. They may or may not have all the goodies that a 560 would have had. I was all excited by the 500 SEL that made it to our U-Pull last year, but found it didn't have the hydraulic suspens

[MBZ] 500SEL

2005-12-19 Thread Donald Snook
A local Mercedes Shop sells some older Benzes and random Porshes, BMWs and Alfa Romeos. I just drove by and he has a VERY nice 126 500SEL. It is not a 560SEL, but 500. I am not familiar with these cars. Is this a Euro car? Any information would be great. It looks VERY VERY nice. He wants $39