Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-02 Thread ernest breakfield
actually, no; the law (at least in CA) wants you to be clear of an intersection (completely *past* all the lines) when the cross light turns green, not just entering it as your light turns red. they go by the front and rear ends of the vehicle, and don't care about where the wheels are.

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-02 Thread David Brodbeck
ernest breakfield wrote: actually, no; the law (at least in CA) wants you to be clear of an intersection (completely *past* all the lines) when the cross light turns green, not just entering it as your light turns red. I think that's the law here, too, but so far they say they're including a

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-02 Thread ernest breakfield
i'll bet the guy whose wife opened a letter containing a pic that showed him with his GF in the passenger seat wishes that was the case where he lived, eh? ;-o cheers! e (seems there's something terribly wrong when privacy concerns can trump the necessity to prove that the vehicle owner is

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-02 Thread ernest breakfield
yikes! you'd subject your car to a *carwash*?! then again, if you're drilling directly into the bumper, you may be holding yours to a different level of Aesthetics,... ;-) i turned down cars when i was shopping for my 300D because of the damage that was obviously done to them by

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-02 Thread ernest breakfield
in that case i totally understand. ;-) cheers! e David Brodbeck wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: yikes! you'd subject your car to a *carwash*?! then again, if you're drilling directly into the bumper, you may be holding yours to a different level of Aesthetics,... ;-)

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: That'd net him a fine of $1212, assuming you didn't get caught stealing his plates. ;) No license points, though. Since they can't prove who was driving there's no other penalty -- just a $101 fine. I see, just a tax on the owner with no

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Isn't the critical point that you *enter* the intersection (presumably meaning either your the front-most point of your car, or your front wheels - I'm not sure which - cross the white line on the closer side of the intersection) before it turns red - rather than that you *clear* the intersection

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Isn't the critical point that you *enter* the intersection (presumably meaning either your the front-most point of your car, or your front wheels - I'm not sure which - cross the white line on the closer side of the intersection) before it turns red - rather than that you

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Very good points. Sad though, that the average driver is brain-dead enough as to plow into the driver in front of them if they choose to obey a traffic signal. Belive me, I know - I was rear-ended by a Caddiliac as I stopped for a red light on my motorcycle. I think what you're describing

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: I think what you're describing though, is people being so conditioned to the common practice of squeaking every last millisecond out of a yellow (and yes, red) light that if someone decides to act reasonably, they are posing a danger with their unpredictability. Pretty

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-30 Thread David Brodbeck
ernest breakfield wrote: bent up on parking blocks? must be same dang big invisible blocks to reach high enough for that and still not be visible enough for a driver to avoid them,...! On mine the problem wasn't parking blocks, it was carwash brushes. They liked to grab hold of my

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-30 Thread David Brodbeck
ernest breakfield wrote: front tags are very popular for evidence in traffic camera suits; a pic with a picture of your face and your tag visible on the front of the car is hard to argue with (constitutionality aside). Here in WA the traffic cameras generally aim for the back plate. They

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-30 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: Here in WA the traffic cameras generally aim for the back plate. They got around privacy concerns by decreeing that the cameras would *not* be allowed to include the driver's face in the photo. The ticket is issued to the owner of the car. So if you really hate your

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Actually, you're probably right. I'ts hard to picture a parking block tall enough to catch it. Whatever bends them, I see a lot of bent ones. On a related note, ever noticed how people (particularly women) scrape those silly plastic air dams on parking blocks? Then they usually go ahead and back

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-29 Thread ernest breakfield
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] License plate placement Does anyone know whether or not it's legal to put the license

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-29 Thread ernest breakfield
Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] License plate placement Does anyone know whether or not it's

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-29 Thread ernest breakfield
as others have already mentioned, it depends on where you are. while front tags aren't even required everywhere, they're required to be affixed to the front of the vehicle in CA, and nothing may (legally) block any view out of the windshield with the exception of a few square inches of

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'll take it over the opposite any day of the year. Brian On 9/25/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The native born are real sticklers for using signals. In seattle you can tell the natives because they make sure to signal all turns. Some are kind enough to begin signaling a few miles

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
The native born are real sticklers for using signals. In seattle you can tell the natives because they make sure to signal all turns. Some are kind enough to begin signaling a few miles before they approach an intersection or three as well as off ramps. They are even able to continue

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread Zeitgeist
Yes, the WA natives use the strategy I call the ten minute turn. First, they signal their intentions...five miles ahead of their actual target; then slowly and incrementally reduce their speed, in expectation of their eventual turn. It starts like this with signal first triggered: [45mph zone]

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:54:56 -0500 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, also, Craig - what keywords did you enter in order to find these items for sale? I searched last night for Mercedes 123 wood trim and didn't find any of these. I did find an ashtray however (which I need).

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
During my first visit to Seattle, my buddy slammed on the brakes every time he approached a signal that turned yellow. He told me that the fuzz threw the book at anyone caught running even a yellow light. Is this still true?. On 9/26/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 24

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread David Brodbeck
andrew strasfogel wrote: During my first visit to Seattle, my buddy slammed on the brakes every time he approached a signal that turned yellow. He told me that the fuzz threw the book at anyone caught running even a yellow light. Is this still true?. I haven't heard that, but they are

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
It was lax for a few years, but now is getting more play. Too many people running lights and smacking into small children and the illegal immigrants On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:46 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: During my first visit to Seattle, my buddy slammed on the brakes every time he

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Thanks. I tried to set up a registration so I could simply ask a question of a seller, and after 20 minutes of choosing an appropriate user name, etc. I found out that they want my credit or debit card number to register. I shut the computer off and went to bed. Yeah,

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
By the way, thanks, Craig, for the links. I was probably going to buy one of them, but it ended early. I suppose that every time we buy something with a credit card, we have just given over our credit card information. Don't know why I should balk at giving it to ebay. Just took me by surprise

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Oh, also, Craig - what keywords did you enter in order to find these items for sale? I searched last night for Mercedes 123 wood trim and didn't find any of these. I did find an ashtray however (which I need). Brian On 9/24/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2006

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-25 Thread Zeitgeist
Here in Warshington, each of us native-born are empowered to issue citizen warrants and arrests (if necessary), when you farners fail to use your signals when changing lanes or turning. We don't take kindly to such infractions. We're too polite to use our horn, but we do harbor long

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Ah! My nemesis Zeitgeist breaks its silence. I'll take your warning, and impart one: Take a moment to imagine the sinister possibilities created by the great farner's mind. While you have lived safely sheltered by the borders of your coddling mother Washington, I have been wandering across this

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote: I really don't understand why other states require a front plate. When's the last time you were pulled over by a police car in front of you? Among other things, they make a great reflective target for laser speed guns. That's one of the reasons so many states have moved to

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-24 Thread Zoltan Finks
Good info., Barry. I think that my particular situation would be a bit different than yours as I have a 123. But I think that we may be alike in our creativity. And, ah yes - the zip tie. That, (and lately Gorilla Glue) are my handyman's secret weapons. A bit more discreet than duct tape. Sorry

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-24 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:35:36 -0500 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I just need to find the rounded piece that runs around the corner over by the passenger door. There have been several of those on eBay in the last few months. Craig

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-24 Thread Zoltan Finks
Really? Aaaak! I have to get over my internet phobia and start looking on ebay. There just seems to be such opportunity for people to rip people off in that situation. Is this sort of thing kept down by the whole rating thing that ebay has? Brian On 9/24/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-24 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thanks. I tried to set up a registration so I could simply ask a question of a seller, and after 20 minutes of choosing an appropriate user name, etc. I found out that they want my credit or debit card number to register. I shut the computer off and went to bed. Brian On 9/24/06, Craig

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
pulled over by a police car in front of you? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] License plate

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-23 Thread Zoltan Finks
, September 22, 2006 11:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] License plate placement Does anyone know whether or not it's legal to put the license plate up on the dash so it's visible through the windshield? I know, this probably varies by locale but I'm just asking for y'all's

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-23 Thread ts
] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate placement You know, I really wish Minnesota didn't require a front plate. When I lived in Arizona, they didn't require one, the for a short while the did (and cops were