[MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Heres another reason to love your MB.

Last night I decided it was high time to change the oil in the Jetta. So I 
jacked it up high and got a jack stand under it, then got under there and 
removed the underbody belly pan thing. Got my drain pan in place and then had 
to crawl back out to get a 19mm wrench. Who uses a 19mm bolt on an oil pan?
Got the oil draining and went after the filter, its a can filter (not a 
canister filter like an MB uses, what are the self-contained ones called?) at 
the front of the car pointing down and slightly rearward (its a weird 
position). I can barely get my hands on it from above, from below its better 
but still bad. Managed to get it unscrewed from below which I was worried about 
and navigated down and out without pouring any on me. Its quite a large filter 
and the one coming off was Mann. My replacement is Car Quest but I intend to 
run a fairly short change as a cleanout before going to a longer duration.

I filled the new filter with oil (Car Quest 5w40 synthetic, again its a short 
change, I'll pull a sample at 5,000 miles) and as I navigated it up into place 
realized I shouldn't have filled it more than 3/4 full. Had to take it down and 
wipe it off because I couldn't turn it with all the oil on it... There is a 
special place in hell for the idiot that designed this system. The mk4 Jetta 
has a canister filter which is a much better system.

While I was down there I figured I'd check the level in the transmission, it 
was louder than I'd like. Thats also mildly annoying because of an AC line 
right in the way, fortunately I had the HUGE (bigger than MB differential) 
allen key needed. I stuck my finger in the hole and... nothing. Stuck my finger 
farther in the hole, nothing. Wiggled it around some, OH! theres some oil. 
Oooh, better do something about that.

Today is cut and weld day, I want to deal with the rust holes under the 
driver's side. Before I do that I'll go find some GL4 fluid and get the trans 
taken care of...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread mlh
I never subscribed to the 'pre-fill the filter so the oil pressure goes up
three seconds faster' thing.

I haven't seen a transaxle that took GL anything since my 1977 Saab (and
the SAE 70 originally specified for that car was superceded by 5W30).
I assume you looked up the spec, but it still seems odd to me.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi 
club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru 
who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere 
between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff (G52? I forget) is apparently very 
thin and people are unhappy with its warm weather characteristics. Some people 
say 75w90 is fine in the cold and some say it isn't, even among people in cold 
weather climates theres a spread.

I'm curious to see how the 75w90 is but spent all day today cutting and 
welding, got about 80% done but have to go to fil birthday party. Hopefully it 
won't rain too bad and I can get the rest (well the driver's side anyway) done 
tomorrow.

-Curt

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I never subscribed to the 'pre-fill the filter so the oil pressure goes up
three seconds faster' thing.

I haven't seen a transaxle that took GL anything since my 1977 Saab (and
the SAE 70 originally specified for that car was superceded by 5W30).
I assume you looked up the spec, but it still seems odd to me.

Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Scott Ritchey

My Mercedes Diesel (617.) is the easily easiest and cleanest oil change of
any vehicle I have ever owned, including yard equipment.  I use a topsider
which seems to remove more oil than the drain plug.

On a semi-related note, I have an Outback where you have to unscrew the oil
filter from under the car.  The filter is surrounded by exhaust pipes and
oil gets all over these pipes.  And then it really smells when they heat up.
I found that if I cut the bottom out of a plastic soda bottle which is
slightly bigger (in diameter) than the filter, It made a great way to catch
this stray oil.  I pass the socket extension through the mouth of the
inverted, bottomless bottle, snap an end-type filter wrench on the extension
and hold the bottle up against the block as I loosen the filter.  The bottle
acts as a funnel to guide spilled oil into the drip pan.

 -Original Message-
 From: Curt Raymond
 
 Heres another reason to love your MB.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jetta oil change

2013-09-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Seemed odd to me too but there are pages and pages dedicated to it over on tdi 
club. I'm going to order some Amsoil Synchromesh after I consult the TDI guru 
who is doing the timing belt next week. Synchromesh seems to be somewhere 
between gear oil and ATF. The new VW stuff (G52? I forget) is apparently very 
thin and people are unhappy with its warm weather characteristics. Some people 
say 75w90 is fine in the cold and some say it isn't, even among people in cold 
weather climates theres a spread.



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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=printthreadBoard=16main=38885type=thread

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