Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
That linked page is actually a rather innovative emetic! On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: No thanks Don. Although a 'Hottest Hockey Mum' sticker would be nice or a 'Mums for more guns' sticker. Don't find exactly those: http://www.stickershoppe.com/sticker-shop/stickers-magnets/sarah-palin.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Agreed. I do have the same issue with my mail at home. I always take my packages to the PO so I guess that helps. Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:38:15 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to disagree.. I make my living selling and shipping parts.USPS has a better track record than ANY of the other carriers. It all depends on your local carrier. I don't think anything is likely to get lost between post offices with the USPS (though it COULD happen), but the last leg to the destination seems to depend on the local carrier. I get mail for my neighbors, or the guy one street over who has the same house number, a LOT more often than seems reasonable. And I wonder how much of MY mail ends up elsewhere... Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Lots of stuff used to disappear in the Chicago SCF. I used to use alternates if the parcel was likely to go through chicago. It seems to have been cleaned up many years ago. no problems recently. At 09:38 PM 11/21/2008, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to disagree.. I make my living selling and shipping parts.USPS has a better track record than ANY of the other carriers. It all depends on your local carrier. I don't think anything is likely to get lost between post offices with the USPS (though it COULD happen), but the last leg to the destination seems to depend on the local carrier. I get mail for my neighbors, or the guy one street over who has the same house number, a LOT more often than seems reasonable. And I wonder how much of MY mail ends up elsewhere... Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Hendrik Fay wrote: with no political stickers on the vehicles..yet When you get them, consider sticking them to thin sheet magnet stock. For indoor use, you could probably print your own from a picture downloaded off the internet. This one's probably too small and pixelated: http://s.fatwallet.com/static//i/forums/customavatars/17583.jpg You can find some pics here, or even order stickers and yard signs (Oops, I just tried out their shopping cart, it was only set up to calculate freight to USA and possessions, but the worst part is that when I put in my zip code, the only option was UPS ground, $8 to ship a $1 sticker, what idiot thought that up?) http://store.barackobama.com/Stickers_s/500.htm Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Mitch, Not that I support buying Obama stickers but if you don't select ups when checking out you can get usps standard for $2.95 or priority for $5.80. Still making a profit on the shipping. I will see if my friend Brian has any laying around we could send out to OZ. Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:09:59 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Hendrik Fay wrote: with no political stickers on the vehicles..yet When you get them, consider sticking them to thin sheet magnet stock. For indoor use, you could probably print your own from a picture downloaded off the internet. This one's probably too small and pixelated: http://s.fatwallet.com/static//i/forums/customavatars/17583.jpg You can find some pics here, or even order stickers and yard signs (Oops, I just tried out their shopping cart, it was only set up to calculate freight to USA and possessions, but the worst part is that when I put in my zip code, the only option was UPS ground, $8 to ship a $1 sticker, what idiot thought that up?) http://store.barackobama.com/Stickers_s/500.htm Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Hendrik, I have an Obama T SHIRT - new - that I will probably never wear. Send me your address offlist and it's yours. I might even waive the postage if I am feeling mellow. P.S. We had a great time spending 2 weeks down under (Sydney, Cairns, Melbourne) last September... Andrew On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
I have a better idea -- let's just send him Obama, the whole deal! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Hendrik, I have an Obama T SHIRT - new - that I will probably never wear. Send me your address offlist and it's yours. I might even waive the postage if I am feeling mellow. P.S. We had a great time spending 2 weeks down under (Sydney, Cairns, Melbourne) last September... Andrew On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
No we can't. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a better idea -- let's just send him Obama, the whole deal! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Hendrik, I have an Obama T SHIRT - new - that I will probably never wear. Send me your address offlist and it's yours. I might even waive the postage if I am feeling mellow. P.S. We had a great time spending 2 weeks down under (Sydney, Cairns, Melbourne) last September... Andrew On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Si se puede! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: No we can't. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a better idea -- let's just send him Obama, the whole deal! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Hendrik, I have an Obama T SHIRT - new - that I will probably never wear. Send me your address offlist and it's yours. I might even waive the postage if I am feeling mellow. P.S. We had a great time spending 2 weeks down under (Sydney, Cairns, Melbourne) last September... Andrew On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
I thought your mantra was yes we can. O' bama farce one can fly to OZ. Lets sent him there. At 09:14 AM 11/21/2008, you wrote: No we can't. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a better idea -- let's just send him Obama, the whole deal! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Hendrik, I have an Obama T SHIRT - new - that I will probably never wear. Send me your address offlist and it's yours. I might even waive the postage if I am feeling mellow. P.S. We had a great time spending 2 weeks down under (Sydney, Cairns, Melbourne) last September... Andrew On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
No thanks Don. Although a 'Hottest Hockey Mum' sticker would be nice or a 'Mums for more guns' sticker. Hendrik Donald Snook wrote: Hendrik wrote: Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. How about a nice McCain sticker? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
We have our own Messiah, called Kevin 747. However the good news for you gun owning folk is that if Obama is anything like our new leader, he'll just talk a lot about doing things but won't actually do anything. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: I have a better idea -- let's just send him Obama, the whole deal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Sure, ship USPS and never get your package. UPS is the way to go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Mitch, Not that I support buying Obama stickers but if you don't select ups when checking out you can get usps standard for $2.95 or priority for $5.80. Still making a profit on the shipping. I will see if my friend Brian has any laying around we could send out to OZ. Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:09:59 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Hendrik Fay wrote: with no political stickers on the vehicles..yet When you get them, consider sticking them to thin sheet magnet stock. For indoor use, you could probably print your own from a picture downloaded off the internet. This one's probably too small and pixelated: http://s.fatwallet.com/static//i/forums/customavatars/17583.jpg You can find some pics here, or even order stickers and yard signs (Oops, I just tried out their shopping cart, it was only set up to calculate freight to USA and possessions, but the worst part is that when I put in my zip code, the only option was UPS ground, $8 to ship a $1 sticker, what idiot thought that up?) http://store.barackobama.com/Stickers_s/500.htm Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
I don't know if this true or not but apparently GWB calls air force one, air horse one. Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: I thought your mantra was yes we can. O' bama farce one can fly to OZ. Lets sent him there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Hendrik Fay wrote: I don't know if this true or not but apparently GWB calls air force one, air horse one. Horse? I thought his drug of choice was cocaine, not heroin. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Actually, I think in place of wishing the 'Bama on OZ, we should send him a one way life-time trip to Pitcairn's Island. He could change 'is last name to Christian to fit in. At 04:16 PM 11/21/2008, you wrote: Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: I thought your mantra was yes we can. O' bama farce one can fly to OZ. Lets sent him there. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Loren wrote: Actually, I think in place of wishing the 'Bama on OZ, we should send him a one way life-time trip to Pitcairn's Island. He could change 'is last name to Christian to fit in. Nice! An obscure reference to the infamous mutiny in the Pacific on the ship Bounty. I like the reference regardless of my opinion of the guy. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Hendrik Fay wrote: No thanks Don. Although a 'Hottest Hockey Mum' sticker would be nice or a 'Mums for more guns' sticker. Don't find exactly those: http://www.stickershoppe.com/sticker-shop/stickers-magnets/sarah-palin.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
I have to disagree.. I make my living selling and shipping parts.USPS has a better track record than ANY of the other carriers. YMMV, Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:16:01 pm To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com From: TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Sure, ship USPS and never get your package. UPS is the way to go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Mitch, Not that I support buying Obama stickers but if you don't select ups when checking out you can get usps standard for $2.95 or priority for $5.80. Still making a profit on the shipping. I will see if my friend Brian has any laying around we could send out to OZ. Mike -Original Message- Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:09:59 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus Hendrik Fay wrote: with no political stickers on the vehicles..yet When you get them, consider sticking them to thin sheet magnet stock. For indoor use, you could probab ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to disagree.. I make my living selling and shipping parts.USPS has a better track record than ANY of the other carriers. It all depends on your local carrier. I don't think anything is likely to get lost between post offices with the USPS (though it COULD happen), but the last leg to the destination seems to depend on the local carrier. I get mail for my neighbors, or the guy one street over who has the same house number, a LOT more often than seems reasonable. And I wonder how much of MY mail ends up elsewhere... Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Obama stickers for the missus
Apparently, for reasons unknown to me, the missus is after some Obama stickers, presumably to put on the cars or on the fridge but what the missus wants the missus gets. So I was wondering if anyone has any left over from the election they could post out to me in Oztralia. I guess seeing there is a credit crunch and you lot are not as wealthy as you used to be, I'll have to send payment for postage, I assume they where handing these things out gratis during the election. Hendrik with no political stickers on the vehicles..yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Surely you jest. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't jest and I agree with Harry about Fox News.. Fair and balanced. Chuck Phoenix On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:33 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Surely you jest. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan It won't be that way on CNN when Senator Obama gets elected. What you are seeing now is President Bush hating news, everything is bad and wrong. When President Obama is in power, everything will be good and wonderful, if its not, then, its the fault of someone else. Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Harry - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? I think you've hit on something with the news coverage. Ever sit and watch CNN, or the others for a couple of hours? You end up feeling anxious and worried. They report 95% bad news all the time. I stopped watching all that crap about 2 years ago. I was something of a news junkie before then. Overall I think I have a much better outlook on life. Happy ignorance? Maybe. My mom still has CNN on almost 24x7 and she worries about everything. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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harry watkins wrote: Watch Fox News, fair and balanced. Doesn't that Sean Hannity douche bag work for Fox? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what I have gathered clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In the summer the school was open with things for the neighborhood kids to do - each classroom had a highschool volunteer who again - was local to the neigborhood - who ran games and kept order. There was a baseball diamond behind the school and we could always find enough kids to start a game. Also the school library was open so the (local) kids could check out books. IIRC the whole operation was run by volunteers who I recall as being high school kids - who were usually big brothers and sisters of someone we were playing with. At the end of the day we walked or rode bikes home. After dinner we often went out to play again - and would stay out until 10 or so (this was when we were in low-mid teens. Younger kids were around too but usually had an older sibling there also. Then came busing the neighborhood concept left. The schools were still there but the kids and sometime teachers were from other parts of town. BTW, this was in Hampton Va - not an urban area - mostly suburban but the housing was close to shopping - Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, that's scary stuff. Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urban vehicles are too big for their needs. Remember Mom needs that monster truck to drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away but if she keeps the tires properly inflated she will reverse climate change. Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Donald Snook wrote: Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Most of the BioD produced in the US is shipped to the EU. Seems that we cheapskates are unwilling to pay the 5.50 or so a gallon it would be at retail in the US. This is the wholesale price, FOB Plant as of 2 days ago: Soy Biodiesel Additive B99.9 - 4.2800 To this is added shipping, $.50-.60 per gallon of taxes and the distributor's margin, and the retailer's margin. At 11:52 AM 8/1/2008, you wrote: It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what I have gathered clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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-- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday -- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As my father used to say, die jugend von heute, meaning how easy kids have it today... Of course, he said it with a very discernible wink:... On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:34 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday -- Original message -- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hendrik wrote drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of uhs and ummms from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That is real presidential material! At 09:51 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Loren Faeth wrote: I'd like to see a transcript of his 7 1/2 minutes of uhs and ummms from his 20 minute speech in europe. 1/3 stammering. That is real presidential material! Nukular, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex Chamberlain wrote: I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Not pushing the 3k mile oil change and people following the factory recommended oil change interval might be pretty helpful as well. I think most cars suggest over 5k nowadays. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? I'm not sure of others, but hydroplaning resistance is one of them. At least according to the autocross school I went to... They said 40psi for the track, but don't run that on the street. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. jfk, he ain't At 10:27 AM 7/31/2008, you wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Loren Faeth wrote: Why wouldn't he use 40 yr old data? There is nothing new in what he stammers and he is trying to portray himself as jfk 48 years ago. jfk, he ain't Right. JFK was born the son of a mobster. BHOJr was born the son of a bureaucrat, and had to move to Chicago to join the mob. I have no idea if JFK was Joe Kennedy's sock puppet, but Dick Daley is counting on BHOJr to be his. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Wear will be heavily on the middle. PSI depends more on the tire than saying 40psi is to high for on the road. I run mine at 45psi because they are mushrooms. Next time I will get a smaller sidewall. Hydroplaning, I would think there would be less chance of it as the contact patch would be smaller making less of a surface to hydroplane on. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Thanks - I worry about hydroplaning around here (D.C.), especially just after it rains for the first time in a week or more. The moisture combines with a residue of gasoline and oil built up on the road surface to create a very slippery condition... On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wear will be heavily on the middle. PSI depends more on the tire than saying 40psi is to high for on the road. I run mine at 45psi because they are mushrooms. Next time I will get a smaller sidewall. Hydroplaning, I would think there would be less chance of it as the contact patch would be smaller making less of a surface to hydroplane on. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: Hard ride, poorer handling (i.e., safety), I don't know about wear. What exactly do you tune up on a newer car? New plugs every 100k miles? An air filter once a year? Maybe some injector cleaner now and then if you use cheap gas? The sad thing is that there are people out there who listen to this, nod, and say, Yep he's my guy! I'll go pump my tires, and magically I will save huge amounts of gas. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: What's the downside of OVERinflating tires to improve fuel economy? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much I am no Obama fan but I wouldn't be surprised if that were true 20 years ago---that is, if we didn't have computerized engine management and cars still needed tune-ups. Your typical '70s or '80s carbureted, minimally electronic engine could easily lose 25% of its mpg if not properly maintained. And tires still do make a difference, of course, though not nearly as much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, that's scary stuff. Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urban vehicles are too big for their needs. Remember Mom needs that monster truck to drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away but if she keeps the tires properly inflated she will reverse climate change. Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Donald Snook wrote: Here's the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much All I can say is, WOW! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Well so what? So what if it's true, and we could save that amount of oil by inflating our tires. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Unimog? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
U1300L Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: Hendrik with an MB monster truck in the drive way Unimog? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest of our country! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
It is Supply and Demand 101. They control the supply and demand more and more money of us. What could be more American than that? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best interest of our country! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a global business. What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make the fuel. One of the Imperium Oil attorneys was dumped and ended up at SWMBA's firm. Sad tales of woe and subterfuge in the oil industry and how all our diesel is going to EU for big bucks, since our puny $$ is worth nothing over there and more profit is made shipping crude here, refining it, then putting it on a ship for there. Still cheaper than bothering to sell it here. clay On 31 Jul 2008, at 19:19, OK Don wrote: What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the best interests of the USA. Why does that in any way cancel the benefit of drilling for our own oil? In fact we're better off if we do both. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:47:11 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It's encouraging to see you have done some homework instead of doing what many are doing - signing on to the obama bandwagon because he says Change in a interesting way. I hope others will take the time to see how he has voted on various issues and what he has said on his books. He has told us all we need to know that this man is not good for America. Also, there are several types of people who will vote this year - those who will vote for obama *because* be is black and those who will not vote for him for the same reason. Both of these are racist although the 1st would not admit it. Then there are those who vote party lines regardless of who is running and then there's the smallest group of all - those who investigate and do their homework to find out who will do those things good for the economy and protect us and maintain a strong America. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
I don't like Condi at all but when you put it that way I'd like to see her as the running mate also... -Curt --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 9:02 PM At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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racism is ok as long as the darker fella is the racist. where you been for the last 40 years? On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
Recently there was an interview with a black man and after asking for the reasons he was voting for obama he could only offer 1 reason - because he promises to end the war - then he said he would vote for obama because he was black like himself. The interviewer said, so, if a white person was voting for the white candidate because he was white would you say he was a racist? Absolutly was the answer - without any clue he had just described himself. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
of course he knows he described himself. it's what is called the double standard ok, mary goes to lou grant asking for a raise and is denied. she has no idea why and begins to question whether there was some element of her work that is lacking. lou assures her that it isn't that. mary is stumped. mr. grant, why can't i get a raise because you are a woman. mary On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently there was an interview with a black man and after asking for the reasons he was voting for obama he could only offer 1 reason - because he promises to end the war - then he said he would vote for obama because he was black like himself. The interviewer said, so, if a white person was voting for the white candidate because he was white would you say he was a racist? Absolutly was the answer - without any clue he had just described himself. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
black people are MUCH bigger raciest than white people could ever dream of being. Sorry, but its the truth LarryT wrote: Recently there was an interview with a black man and after asking for the reasons he was voting for obama he could only offer 1 reason - because he promises to end the war - then he said he would vote for obama because he was black like himself. The interviewer said, so, if a white person was voting for the white candidate because he was white would you say he was a racist? Absolutly was the answer - without any clue he had just described himself. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
It's encouraging to see you have done some homework instead of doing what many are doing - signing on to the obama bandwagon because he says Change in a interesting way. I hope others will take the time to see how he has voted on various issues and what he has said on his books. He has told us all we need to know that this man is not good for America. Also, there are several types of people who will vote this year - those who will vote for obama *because* be is black and those who will not vote for him for the same reason. Both of these are racist although the 1st would not admit it. Then there are those who vote party lines regardless of who is running and then there's the smallest group of all - those who investigate and do their homework to find out who will do those things good for the economy and protect us and maintain a strong America. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes Obama says on page 215 of his _Audacity of Hope_ book I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby. I guess this is the standard urban liberal view. He appears to have voted for restrictive gun laws at every opportunity. Obama's extreme urbanity troubles me. I have read both his books and I can't remember any instances of him doing anything practical or enjoying the outdoors. No gardening, hiking, hunting, fishing, cycling, building, mowing, boating.or biking. No interest in machinery. He plays basketball, that most urban of sports. I suspect he understands less about others than he thinks he does. His stereotypes can be awkward. For example, here is an excerpt from his Values chapter in _Audacity of Hope_, page 57: ..our democracy might work a bit better if we recognized that all of us possess values worthy of respect: if liberals at least acknowledged that the recreational hunter feels the same way about his gun as they feel about their library books, and if conservatives recognized that most women feel as protective of their right to reproductive freedom as evangelicals do of their right to worship. Gaak. In real life there are many hunters who use libraries and liberals (or at least Democrats) that don't but do hunt. These are not contrasting groups/values. IMHO he is just showing his ignorance of people unlike himself. He doesn't say exactly what reproductive freedom for women amounts to although I gather free abortion is a big part of it. To him conservatives always are hung up on the most narrow sort of religion. Obama champions an activist government. I am sure he will want glorious new programs for the urban poor. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV He was the kind that can't keep from being bad without being good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
Obama says on page 215 of his _Audacity of Hope_ book I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby. I guess this is the standard urban liberal view. He appears to have voted for restrictive gun laws at every opportunity. Obama's extreme urbanity troubles me. I have read both his books and I can't remember any instances of him doing anything practical or enjoying the outdoors. No gardening, hiking, hunting, fishing, cycling, building, mowing, boating.or biking. No interest in machinery. He plays basketball, that most urban of sports. I suspect he understands less about others than he thinks he does. His stereotypes can be awkward. For example, here is an excerpt from his Values chapter in _Audacity of Hope_, page 57: ..our democracy might work a bit better if we recognized that all of us possess values worthy of respect: if liberals at least acknowledged that the recreational hunter feels the same way about his gun as they feel about their library books, and if conservatives recognized that most women feel as protective of their right to reproductive freedom as evangelicals do of their right to worship. Gaak. In real life there are many hunters who use libraries and liberals (or at least Democrats) that don't but do hunt. These are not contrasting groups/values. IMHO he is just showing his ignorance of people unlike himself. He doesn't say exactly what reproductive freedom for women amounts to although I gather free abortion is a big part of it. To him conservatives always are hung up on the most narrow sort of religion. Obama champions an activist government. I am sure he will want glorious new programs for the urban poor. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV He was the kind that can't keep from being bad without being good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
i am convinced now that most of america is essentially disenfranchised in that our leaders have no clue we exist and would be appalled if they did. guys like obama have no clue about rural america, particularly the rural south. these people just don't count for anything in new york city or washington, DC. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obama says on page 215 of his _Audacity of Hope_ book I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby. I guess this is the standard urban liberal view. He appears to have voted for restrictive gun laws at every opportunity. Obama's extreme urbanity troubles me. I have read both his books and I can't remember any instances of him doing anything practical or enjoying the outdoors. No gardening, hiking, hunting, fishing, cycling, building, mowing, boating.or biking. No interest in machinery. He plays basketball, that most urban of sports. I suspect he understands less about others than he thinks he does. His stereotypes can be awkward. For example, here is an excerpt from his Values chapter in _Audacity of Hope_, page 57: ..our democracy might work a bit better if we recognized that all of us possess values worthy of respect: if liberals at least acknowledged that the recreational hunter feels the same way about his gun as they feel about their library books, and if conservatives recognized that most women feel as protective of their right to reproductive freedom as evangelicals do of their right to worship. Gaak. In real life there are many hunters who use libraries and liberals (or at least Democrats) that don't but do hunt. These are not contrasting groups/values. IMHO he is just showing his ignorance of people unlike himself. He doesn't say exactly what reproductive freedom for women amounts to although I gather free abortion is a big part of it. To him conservatives always are hung up on the most narrow sort of religion. Obama champions an activist government. I am sure he will want glorious new programs for the urban poor. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV He was the kind that can't keep from being bad without being good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama
Zedic wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. I didn't send the email, so I can't speak specifically about it. BUT, didn't the quotes come from his books? These were books he wrote, correct? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, he wrote them, and reading the entire book MIGHT give you some useful insight into his make-up and character, but don't take the easy uneducated electorate approach of trying to draw conclusions from a short list of quotes taken completely out of context as a means of drawing any substantive conclusions. No doubt if GWB was capable of writing a coherent sentence, we could find similarly evil passages in things he has written as well. BTW, I don't particularly like Obama any better than any of the other candidates. It just gets my dander up when such obviously slanted misinformation is passed off as a nugget of truth. Gary Thompson On 6/13/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zedic wrote: Deeply offensive! More obfuscating bullshit from paranoid idiots. Some people really need to get educated. I didn't send the email, so I can't speak specifically about it. BUT, didn't the quotes come from his books? These were books he wrote, correct? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama
short list of quotes taken completely out of context as a means of drawing any substantive conclusions. Not that I've read anything so that I actually know, but if I were writing a book about Hitler and somewhere in there I quoted It's all the fault of the Jews, one could excerpt that quote-of-a-quote to imply that _I_ thought such rubbish. Other fertile ground for misdirection is grabbing the middle of a deductive argument that leads to a conclusion that the author does _not_ support. Not that I'm a fan of BO or anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
